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Open Thread: Game 85 - A's at Tampa Bay (cont.)

4-2 A's going to the 8th, after a 25 minute top of the 7th that featured 4 Rays pitchers, 2 Rays catchers, 2 A's HRs, six straight hits and 4 runs. Yeah, saw all that coming.

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Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

hi

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

shut up

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

thx

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you seeing a therpaist for this talking to yourself issue??? {chuckling}

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by BERRYJO on Jul 11, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only I could spell.....or type!

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by BERRYJO on Jul 11, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

These Rays announcers

really suck….haha

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Bill King

you listen to those old highlights and you’re like, damn, that guy was in the top 10 sports announcers ever to live and no one but us knows it.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

yep

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

his calls and personality

were just totally Bay Area, right down to the barefoot-in-the-booth shoelessness, so I think he got kind of dismissed or marginalized nationally, which is a shame.

Love guys who do it their way and do it well and don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks, like Bill did.

R.I.P. always.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1,000

This made me finally fix the batteries on the bobblehead so I could hear some of his great calls. Holy Toledo!

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Jul 11, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wish I could hear or watch the game

I dont get the AM broadcast audibly over the static, and the link sends me to see the Nats and Astros….bleh

by hishnik on Jul 11, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I know....but I love that website. Keepin' it in mind for future non-TV games.....

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by BERRYJO on Jul 11, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rajai

looks a little cocky now…hehe

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Going for the cycle!

They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!

by muffinpryde on Jul 11, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

definitely that 1-1 swing..

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fosse says PB

Rays guys say WP

Which is it

by Future Ed on Jul 11, 2009 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

ruled a PB

for you scorers out there who can’t get the radio LOL

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gameday says PB

They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!

by muffinpryde on Jul 11, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Crosby hasn't adjusted his stance ever, but he can do the little things like bunt.

What’s that all about?

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Who's available to close if we hold on?

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by BERRYJO on Jul 11, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

me

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty good.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

67M

is so old-school he can give you 3 innings as a closer, like Rollie Fingers with a less unusual moustache.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maddon

attempting to use his whole bullpen for this game… he’ll be closing with Zobrist tomorrow night LOL

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Ray is on the radio, and we're leading

Hmm, very strange.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

No way.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 11, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes way!

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good job, Ellie....

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by BERRYJO on Jul 11, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice sac fly

Mael! Nice to have him back and do the fundamentals this team is so dearly missing…

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm on the Rajai Davis bandwagon.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Plenty of room, I assume?

JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker

by JJ Martin on Jul 11, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can stretch my legs and push the seat way back.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The paint job leaves a little to be desired

They should have finishing painting over ‘Buck’ before they wrote ‘Davis’ on the side.

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Jul 11, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doubles as both.

It’s a cut and shove job.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a 2.208 OPS in July!!!!!!

They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!

by muffinpryde on Jul 11, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

throwback day…

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Return of the bomb shelter today??

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup

here

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 11, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's the way ya do it

ya score the runner on a deep sac fly

that ain’t losin’

that’s the way ya do it

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

BJ Upton = awesome in CF.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

OCab now in the act..

keep those stats up to get your trade value high! :)

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

there has been an Orlando Cabrera sighting

I will call KTVU and let them know that the missing persons report doesn’t need to be filed.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

just checked ktvu

news is on, the o’cab alert cancelled…but good news for those here in he bay area, they found that older man in campbell with dimensia who has been missing for a week, get this a little league team found him by a creek alive

by OakA'sHoney on Jul 11, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

it has been a news story here in the sf-oak area for a week, a man with dimensia went missing, wonderful news he was found, i thought it was cute that little leaguers found him

by OakA'sHoney on Jul 11, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

had no idea. awesome story.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 11, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

dementia

related to “demented”, not “dimension”.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, not used to writing that word

by OakA'sHoney on Jul 11, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

really, is that true?

if so that’s a great story, I love Hero Kid stories.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the ...

Ray’s announcer…

“San Jose, could be more Giants fans then A’s fans”…….

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 11, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

so how much does he know??

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by BERRYJO on Jul 11, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

How great would that be?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 11, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did that make you not hate him?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

No.

I think I may be unable to be swayed at this point.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 11, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is so fucked up this game is not on TV

[sigh] We needed a win like a baby needs its momma, no lie, and it’s blacked out.

It’s something, anyway.

by paradox on Jul 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Ziggy's back to normal, putting up good stats

7.5 RAR value 3.3 mil according to fangraphs

Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone

by closetasfan on Jul 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

top 4 of the order

8 for 19….not bad

Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone

by closetasfan on Jul 11, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

what happened? i only have audio

by OakA'sHoney on Jul 11, 2009 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

"catcher's balk"

Used the mask to stop the ball from rolling away. I thought that was “two bases” but they only awarded one. I’ll check the rulebook.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 11, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The catcher clearly didn't know that rule. He looked shocked.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rule 7.05 (d)

also posted below:

"Each runner may advance two bases if a fielder deliberately touches a thrown ball with his cap, mask, or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person."

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 11, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting, maybe they’ll show a replay on the news

by OakA'sHoney on Jul 11, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

So is it a faux pas for the umpire to punch the manager in the nose

when they get up in their face like that?

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Golden Sombrero for Kust :(

Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone

by closetasfan on Jul 11, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Cust is simply found wanting against good pitching

Terrible.

New approach, old approach he is not going very good at moment.

My favorite team is a fucking embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily fucking basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010

by Trainman on Jul 11, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, it was scary

just grateful for him that it wasn’t to the head, and that he’ll recover.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

paraphrasing Bill Walton here

What is Matt Holliday DOOOOOOOOOING out there?!?"

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Rule 7.05 (d):

“Each runner may advance two bases if a fielder deliberately touches a thrown ball with his cap, mask, or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person.” Umps blew the call — should have allowed runner to advance two bases.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 11, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck off Holliday.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

i feel like

Fosse almost said Pete Rose when running through the 1970 All-Stars there, interesting. He had to catch himself, it seemed.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

i mean which ones in that game

went to the Hall.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man

that was a Freudian Slip worthy of mention there, wowza.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

WIN

YAY

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

We would have a better record if we could carry

the extra runs from tonight (4) over to tomorrow and so on. We might win 50 games in second half. All we need is one game where we score like 20 runs to 1 and we can win a few in a row.

Oh wait………………….. I was away for a minute, now I am back to reality

My favorite team is a fucking embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily fucking basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010

by Trainman on Jul 11, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

fireworks fail?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not showing on my browser.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hurray!

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

A win for Pepe.

Woot!

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 11, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

way to look at this season and not go on an indescriminate killing spree

The half-full version (which also hurts a bit, no doubt) is that if we had ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY consistent sticks, ANY ANY ANY real hitting in this lineup, these young studly pitchers would have us at or near the very top of one of the weakest divisions in all of sports.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Pitching

When should the A’s start thinking about locking some of these pitchers with long-term deals? Might be a little early, but there is SO much potential there.

by Jpwest76 on Jul 11, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not yet,

We have them under club control for a decent amount to start with (varying for each pitcher obviously), pitchers are injury prone (Outman, Duke…sigh), they are promising but not yet proven, and long term pitching deals of recent have turned out really really poorly (Zito).

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got 'em for a few years yet.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 11, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

and, mind you, it would be FINE

if it wasn’t three years running and too many deadweight retread veterans and so forth, if they were just playing the kids like Buck and Sweeney and whoever and letting the young pitchers learn by losing for awhile, it’d be ok, pure rebuilding.

What bugs me and a lotta folks on here it seems is that offensively it’s left to just twist in the wind, as if no one is in real charge of assembling (NOT cobbling together, but assembling) the offensive pieces needed to win baseball games where the pitching you’re getting has you in the game.

The A’s under Billy Brezhnev are too hung up on victim status, the oh! the rich teams have us, we can’t compete unless we cobble it together and scrimp on one aspect or another because we can either afford rent or food but not both! Make movies about my prowess as a GM!

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might be a homer...but...

3 years, all of which have been devoted to rebuilding. As in getting minor league prospects, cause the A’s actually can’t afford the expensive established prosects.

What makes you say the A’s are hung up on victim status? Has Billy Beane complained about his budget? (that’s a serious question, btw). And I’m pretty sure Billy didn’t request for the movie to be made. Just saying.

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

an egotist like BB

is l-o-v-i-n-g the Hollywood attention, bet on it.

Victim status is constantly on display in the workings of this franchise the last 10 years, it’s impossible to miss. I mean, read the book, the whole approach is to be the little runt pit bull that bites the rich teams with all the resources… the unspoken, de facto excuse to have to cobble this together from retread parts like they do is “We have no money to compete so we have to do it this way.” You can’t get more indulgent in your disadvantage than that, IMO.

What has happened is that the Moneyball/sabremetrics philosophy, instead of being modified and adapted once other teams either adopted it or figured out how to beat teams employing it, wasn’t. It was intensified into a raison d’etre, a dogma to be adhered to at pain of excommunication from The State. That’s why I call him Billy Brezhnev, because the dogmatic continued adherence to obviously outmoded philosphies, when coupled with the constant lying to the fans and the media about the injuries, makes me think of the old USSR sometimes.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

and don't even start me

on the way they play the Victim Card around the Coliseum issues and the stadium conundrum, oh my. They’ve done everything but go on Oprah and complain about how Al Davis raped them and shot their dog.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't know Beane was an egoist,

what makes you say that?

Also, I’ve read the book, and not once in it did I gather this “Oh, poor us” mentality. I might add its written by and Michael Lewis, who isn’t really part of “us”.

Also, are the A’s wrong in employing a different strategy? The smaller budget, is in fact an issue. They can’t do things the standard way.

And when did BB lie about injuries?

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are wrong in employing a strategy

that emphasizes taking so many pitches early in counts, when other clubs have long ago discerned that you can get guys out when they never swing pretty easily, yes they are wrong.

As far as BB being ego-driven, what super-successful high-powered sports GM isn’t? It wasn’t intended as insult to him, just observation. He always comes off as smug IMO anyway, kind of like it’s his dream and evryone else is just in it.

As for Moneybell, OMG we must have read 2 different books… the tone of “The Athletics have to do it this way because this is all they can do.” is palpable and if you read Soderbergh’s junked screenplay that aspect really is emphasized…. maybe part of the reason the studio didn’t want to shoot it.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

injuries

see Rich “just missing one start” Harden, Mark “calf tenderness on the 60 day DL” Ellis, and a million and six others the last 10 years.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well in all fairness,

those two were cases of injuries being worse than the original diagnosis IIRC.

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That strategy was used when the personel they had fit.

Don’t confuse Moneyball with walking, then hitting the three run homerun. Also, there are guys who “never” swing that are very, very successful. You’re also wrong when you say A’s hitters never swing, most of the lineup these last few years has swung at more pitches than league average.

As for the tone, even if it is palpable (it has been a little while for me since I’ve read it), isn’t it true that the A’s must use a different style to be successful?

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well....

our team ERA is only good for 15th in the league. Our pitching is certainly promising, but also unpolished.

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has its ups and downs but there's a ton of promise

Can’t say the same for our hitters.

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Jul 11, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

absolutely

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

every game

they are learning, at times at a quantum level… these kids have pitched very well for a horrible offensive team where they must know if they give up one run they are fucked.

The lessons learned by these guys will make them formidable in years to come, IMO…. watching them it’s hard not to be impressed and see eventual Big 3-like potential numbers from them.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure they're learning

and I think they’re gonna be freaking awesome. Not quite there just yet.

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jul 11, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet = 2011

A lot of painful and humiliating losing until then, I’m afraid.

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?

by emperor nobody on Jul 11, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

15th in all of baseball, I hope you mean.

Otherwise we’re worse than the worst.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 11, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

GAME RECAP IS UP

This thread is done because failed to run hard.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

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