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DLD 7/1/09: Less about baseball, more about baseball movies


Or the one that isn't in production right now.  The New York Times has a story headlined In Skittish Hollywood, Stars Can't Save "Moneyball"  and the LA Times counters with its more insiderish Sony's Amy Pascal speaks out about "Moneyball".   Both identify the problem with the original script: people who are still alive being portrayed by actors, saying and doing things that did not actually happen exactly the way the script depicts them.   This is a problem that many other filmmakers have conquered successfully, but it does help to have the cooperation of the people who are going to be portrayed as characters....and the NYTimes indicates that it was at least in part Major League Baseball that objected to the historical liberties.  The second draft -- the one we haven't seen, the one that caused Sony to put the movie on ice -- was apparently much more of a documentary/reenactment.   The LAT story says one of the bits in the first script that director Steven Soderbergh wanted cut was the part where the 4-year-old daughter of Scott and Bitsy Hatteberg fields a ball that her dad missed and the "Ron Washington" character suggests signing her up. 

Star-divide

Also, Monte Poole has a D-Train update

That's about all I've seen today and it's time to head to the ballpark!

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I love Dontrelle.

Even though he plays for another team, I love him. Maybe a switch to the Oakland ballclub might help that anxiety. It’s about 10 minutes from where he grew up, right?

This is just unacceptable. People are paying good money to go to the ball park. -Ken Korach

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 1, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind him, but frankly not for the salary that comes along with.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 1, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm betting he's outright released before the end of season.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jul 1, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd sign him to a minor league deal IMMEDIATELY were that to happen.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huddy's starting rehab soon!

That’s always good news. I like him. A lot.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jul 1, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 1, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Baseball isn't magic.

by rebus on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunno if this has already been posted, but

apparently, if you’re a member of River Cats Connection, you can read some Q&A sessions with some of the players. The latest one they have up is one with Cunningham. No hard-hitting questions, though; just simple “favorite player?” and “favorite movie?” type of questions.

http://my.rivercats.com/group/rcc/qna

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 1, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Moneyball movie

Well, it just sounds nuts to make a $58 million documentary.

by bear88 on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it was, um, kinda doomed from the start, I'd say.

The thing about it is, though, it has the potential to be something very special, simply because of that. If it had floated by, it would’ve been either really wonderful or gloriously horrible. No in between, I don’t think. But, been wrong before…

This is just unacceptable. People are paying good money to go to the ball park. -Ken Korach

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 2, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't really a documentary.

Just a story surrounding the 2002 club.

"if gio would of ptched,he would of pitched shoot outs." - MR.OAKLAND

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Jul 2, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read both scripts.

The first one was interesting and clever, but I can see how the liberties taken with what actually happened might be a problem. The second one just wasn’t that interesting a movie.

by Nate on Jul 3, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you share

Where you read them and how I could do the same?

thanks.

by princemilo on Jul 6, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno if this got posted yet, but

http://deadspin.com/5306316/why-your-stadium-sucks-oakland+alameda-county-coliseum

Nice reader submissions at the bottom of this one.

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jul 2, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I shouldn't be surprised about Beane's temper

but it always hurts to hear these kinds of stories about people you respect:

“One of my friends used to work parking at the Coliseum and one night he was in the VIP parking area and a guy in a BMW flies up and doesn’t have a parking pass. He tells this guy he can’t park here, etc. The guy starts yelling and screaming at him, demanding to speak to his boss and saying he is going to have him fired for even asking for a parking pass and storms off after my friend won’t relent. Yeah it was Billy Beane.” (David R.)

by LongLiveLangerhans on Jul 2, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best part about the Coliseum

Is that it, probably more than any other stadium in sports, perfectly embodies the city it resides in. It’s got its rough edges, and it’s pretty unseemly from the outside, really, it’s a ghastly looking place, but on the inside it’s got a ton of character to it and it’s a place where you can have a lot of fun.

Outman, fighter of the Hitman, champion of the K, he's a master of scoreless innings and friendship for everyone.

by walk off bunt on Jul 2, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q&A with Andrew Bailey

Not a bad read.

They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!

by muffinpryde on Jul 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting observation by Bailey:
Springer is the king of the bullpen, though. Everyone kind of follows his lead.

Hmmm.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 2, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Springer?!?!?!?! King of the bullpen?

Do…not…want…

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jul 2, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget -- we're talking about the guy who threw at Barry Bonds.

Twice.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 2, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a discussion

about the A’s rotation and the Verducci Effect

http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=138709&st=0

will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody

by day-to-day on Jul 2, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A six man rotation might be worth exploring.

Outman, fighter of the Hitman, champion of the K, he's a master of scoreless innings and friendship for everyone.

by walk off bunt on Jul 2, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was thinking, too

will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody

by day-to-day on Jul 2, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shudder.

I HATE bees. I probably would have run screaming for the water.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 3, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BEES!?

Beads!

"It's a PIVOTAL series! There's only ONE OcTOber! And there's LOTS of unsold AD TIME that we have to FILL with my inNANE bullSHIT!" -Nick 10/06/07

by afansnotes on Jul 5, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deadspin isn't the only Oakland Coli hater

ouch

493 health code violations?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 2, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Ultimate Standings = fucking joke

Just look at who’s #1.

headdesk

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jul 2, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

any type of ranking/analysis from ESPN simply can't be trusted

They’re too compromised. Their business is telling people what they want to hear, not provoking thought.

by cityplANner on Jul 3, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

East Coast biast all the way.

but the health code violations kind of threw me. Weren’t we making fun of the slegna stadium for violations or rats?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is a slow day on AN

14 comments on a DLD? come on people!

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 2, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And it's yesterday's DLD.....

Slow two days on AN.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 2, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

I was looking at Andrew Bailey’s MLB page and saw this caption with a picture of Gio Gonzalez.

Gio Gonzalez gave up BLANK runs over X X/X innings on Tuesday against the Tigers.

will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody

by day-to-day on Jul 2, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I going crazy?

Wasn’t there a front-page diary by Nico that is no longer there? Didn’t even get to read it before it disappeared.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 3, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You saw no diary there (waves hand)

This not the diary you are looking for.

Anyhow, I saw a glimpse of it, something about external factors that you can’t control (the weather, acts of God, bees attacking the field) and internal factors you can (not running into the wall and breaking it, not straining your back reaching for the alarm clock) and how the A’s seem to say all the injuries are “external” and nothing they can do about it, and how that’s a bad way to go about things.

Or something like that. Don’t remember the exact terminologies he used (my vocabulary is much smaller).

by Kaiser99 on Jul 3, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean this?

‘Locus of Control’

It still shows if you track through Nico’s activity. He probably temporarily took it down for editing or something. Or maybe just an accidental glitch.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 3, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the only.

I can see why he took it down.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Jul 3, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers in financial trouble?

Tom Hicks’ Sports Group Defaults On $525 Million In Loans

I’m a bigtime Liverpool FC fan ( english soccer ) and the same guy who owns them owns the Rangers ( and the dallas stars ) and it’s being reported on the liverpool pages that the rangers couldn’t pay their players salaries and had to take a loan from MLB.

This is good news for me, since it might make these bastards sell Liverpool.. But I wonder what kind of effect it might have on the AL West. I guess Nolan Ryan might get more control over this team…

Ellis for President

by tosk on Jul 3, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

... which in turn would increase the chances

of the Rangers letting Ron Washington get away.

(Not that I think we’d get him even if he does, but one can hope.)

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 3, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

... which in turn would increase the chances

of the Rangers letting Ron Washington get away.

(Not that I think we’d get him even if he does, but one can hope.)

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 3, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just might have to post this later because it is so awesome

but I couldn’t wait.

The A-Hole tastes nasty

(not as bad as it sounds)

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 3, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Web only commerical for same product

bisticules?

puffy nuts, HAHAW!

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 3, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

man there is a bunch of good clips for the product

keep clicking the related clips on the right.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 3, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best Hot Dogs in the Bay Area

When I read this, I immediately thought of AN…..scary, I know….

The list, for those too lazy to read it:

  • Kasper’s (not Casper’s)
  • Top Dog
  • What’s Up Dog
  • Fatt Dog
  • Costco Dogs
  • Saags Sausages

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 4, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

SACRILIGE!!!!!!

There is only one best dog in the Bay Area, Nay, THE WORLD!

This is just unacceptable. People are paying good money to go to the ball park. -Ken Korach

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 4, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was checking out the D-train link, when this caught my attention

the following description almost gave me seizures of PB cravings:

If you’re craving something buttery, the deep-fried Reese’s are delectable. With crispy edges, the dough made from Lorimer’s own recipe adds a moist, delicious twist to the melted peanut butter and chocolate within.

I don't always blog. But when I do, I prefer AN. Stay thirsty my friends.

by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

where did you see that?

where do you find that tasty treat?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 5, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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