DLD- 6/23/2009: Man I am aggro today

Rick Hurd, seems to believe Gio is pitching tonight.

Sure looks like Gio Gonzalez will be throwing (emphasis on "throw") tonight for the A’s. Whoop-de-du!!

Hey nothing against Gio. His numbers at Triple-A Sacramento have been decent, and he’s been on a nice run.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/chinmusic/2009/06/23/couple-of-quick-thoughts/#more-1774

by theblackpearl on Jun 23, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hurd is confused

First of all, the source for that rumor, a CoCo Times story, says, “Should Outman be unavailable, speculation is that Gio Gonzalez would be brought up from Triple-A Sacramento to make Wednesday’s start.” So there’s speculation. No confirmation, no story. Just people speculating.

Furthermore, you cut off the Hurd assessment of Gio before this sentence:

But when the A’s acquired him, much of what was written about him ended in "might make a decent fifth starter."

Those quotes don’t actually represent a quotation. He just threw those in there as if he were quoting someone. And that might be because that’s not what the consensus was about Gio, who was the reigning minor league strikeout leader the previous year in Chicago’s system. He and FDLS were the White Sox top two prospects when Williams traded him to Oakland. To portray him as a throw-in with limited potential borders on dishonesty.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jun 23, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yung Chi Chen?

Isn’t he still injured? Along with Doolittle? Nice work, Hurd. Personally, I can’t wait to see Aaron Rowand hit as an overpaid lead-off.

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Jun 23, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

he is overpaid no matter where he is batting

by Future Ed on Jun 23, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only place he could justify that salary is back in Philly where he is a 30 HR guy

as apposed to a 12 HR guy in SF…

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Jun 23, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That article is just frustrating.

Get your facts straight, Rick Hurd, it’s not that hard.

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jun 23, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just love how everyone is aggro, more... we need more!

by jeffro on Jun 23, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I get aggro all the time when reading stuff like this,

I can’t stand a LOT of sportswriting.

"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT

by travdog6 on Jun 23, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me neither.

I’ve just graduated with a journalism degree and I’m wondering whether to bother with the industry at all. I’m tempted to go into PR.

by OldhamA on Jun 23, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

aggro is my #1 favorite abreev, jeffro.

It just sounds like what it is.

by cityplANner on Jun 23, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

First of all, today is Tuesday, not Wednesday

so tonight is Mazarro vs. Lincecum.

Secondly, A’s now have Gio posted on their website:

Athletics: With Josh Outman not expected to make the start because of tightness in his left forearm, all signs point to the return of the left-handed Gonzalez, who is 4-1 with a 2.51 ERA in 12 starts at Sacramento this season. Gio Gonzalez, whose 71 strikeouts in 61 innings rank second in the Pacific Coast League, has been recalled to Oakland twice this season, and twice he was sent down the day after pitching in long relief. In those two games, he gave up seven earned runs on 11 hits and seven walks while striking out 11, but his command in Sacramento had been improving all year — his strikeouts-to-walks ratio is now better than 2-to-1.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 23, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I was Hurd, I would want the A's to bring up Todd Linden

Since he got the shaft during Spring Traiining…

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Jun 23, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This A’s team does nothing really well.

Ever heard of developing young starting pitching?

You know what, I’m tired of seeing those guys in Oakland. Sick of the Daric Bartons and Dan Johnsons and Jack Hannahans (no offense, Jack) on the hitting side who always seem to side toward "bust." Tired of watching guys who might —- might —- be a fifth starter or decent setup guy at some point.

Dude, Daric Barton was a top prospect. And what about the (at least three) other guys who might — MIGHT — be number 1 or 2 starters one day, who are in Oakland NOW? Tired of watching them too? Or do you expect every single prospect in the system and every single guy on the major league team to be a superstar? What are you, a Yankees fan?

When’s the last time you even watched an A’s game?

by oblique on Jun 23, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well to be honest, a lot of us are tired of seeing Jack Hannahan

by theblackpearl on Jun 23, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And he does correctly point out

that Jack Hannahan has “no offense.”

by oblique on Jun 23, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here, here

I can’t wait until Mark Ellis is a run sucking vacuum in the order instead of the super run sucking vacuum that Hannahan is and Adam Kennedy is playing subpar 3rd base.

by jeffro on Jun 23, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh goody,

more video salutes from former players! Maybe I’ll send them a video salute of my standing ovation. Same thing happened last season with the 40th anniversary team. Whatever.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 23, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hear hear!

I am tired of the excuses from the A’s… if you want to market your past glory it can’t be for one weekend a year. Start using the past all the time… kind of like the team across the bay with an inferior past does, they even got a plaque for Kirt Manwaring and Johnny Lee LeMaster. Man alive, maybe some of the old dudes would come if it wasn’t some token crap.

I’ve been saying this for over 20 years. They really need to play up their history more. I’d even like to see a few Philadelphia-era retired numbers… at least Grove, Foxx, Simmons, and Cochrane. Do a couple plain jerseys on the wall for guys who played before they had assigned numbers. This franchise is #3 in WS titles… tell the world.

re: McGwire… I guess the steroid rumors are true, they do shrink your balls.

re: Steinbach… How’d that weekend picnic go?

re: Canseco… Ok, I can understand that one, he’s just a selfish boob. I also understand Lansford’s comments and sentiments.

Did Gallego go?

Back then, my idol was Bugs Bunny, because I saw a cartoon of him playing ball - you know, the one where he plays every position himself with nobody else on the field but him? Now that I think of it, Bugs is still my idol. You have to love a ballplayer like that.
~Nomar Garciaparra

by UncleLeo on Jun 23, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

It'd be ncie

If they had a fan of the team as the Marketing head instead of somebody who worked at Sony. Sports Marketing is not the same as selling video games.

by jeffro on Jun 23, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gallego is on the team now.....so he was already there.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jun 23, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know... I was being sarcastic. LOL!

Back then, my idol was Bugs Bunny, because I saw a cartoon of him playing ball - you know, the one where he plays every position himself with nobody else on the field but him? Now that I think of it, Bugs is still my idol. You have to love a ballplayer like that.
~Nomar Garciaparra

by UncleLeo on Jun 23, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We are AGGRO

Not sarcastic! Get with the program Uncle Leo :)

by jeffro on Jun 23, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carney rocks.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 23, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

McGwire...

Grow up. we still love you here in Oakland….and you worked for the A’s this last season. How can you not show up? That’s just WRONG. This would be a perfect chance to start really participating in all that MLB still has to offer you. You are hurting your fans and letting the club down. Sahme on you…

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 23, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think it's still to soon for the guy.

He was always the reluctant type. I imagine he may come around eventually, especially if the media will let the steroid issue die. As it stands now, he couldn’t show up at an A’s event without being pelted with question after question “about the past”. Those buffoons can’t believe that the guy simply has nothing to say, and what’s more, absolutely will not throw anyone else under the bus so that they can have sound bites for the next 24 hour “news” cycle. Quite frankly, Mark is the kind of guy I would want as a friend.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Jun 23, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with everything you said

I remember those McDonalds commercials where they were doing the “my buddy” thing with him and it felt kind of natural.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Jun 23, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do you think it's solely the media's fault?

They’re not that out-of-touch. They’re not going to waste their time if nobody is interested. If fans would stop talking about it the media would be less likely to be interested also. The media is merely responding to what people want to hear. For right or for wrong, it’s still a hot-button issue that has people willing to listen and debate.

Back then, my idol was Bugs Bunny, because I saw a cartoon of him playing ball - you know, the one where he plays every position himself with nobody else on the field but him? Now that I think of it, Bugs is still my idol. You have to love a ballplayer like that.
~Nomar Garciaparra

by UncleLeo on Jun 24, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

Because I’m grown weary of the whole mess. The testing is in place, for whatever value it has, so I’m done with it. What really irritates me is that the players union entered an agreement for anonymous testing in 03. Now suddenly the results of those tests are being splashed all over the news. I have a real problem with that. If the media truly wanted to do something useful, they would “investigate” who is leaking confidential information from active investigations. But they will never do that.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Jun 24, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That settles it.

You’re done with it, ergo so is everybody else.

Back then, my idol was Bugs Bunny, because I saw a cartoon of him playing ball - you know, the one where he plays every position himself with nobody else on the field but him? Now that I think of it, Bugs is still my idol. You have to love a ballplayer like that.
~Nomar Garciaparra

by UncleLeo on Jun 24, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh.

I don’t know many (read any) who are all that interested in the subject anymore. Besides which, it’s obvious I have larger issues with the media in general.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Jun 24, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm certainly no fan of the media, either, but...

…I don’t think they’re prone to keep on something if nobody’s listening.

Back then, my idol was Bugs Bunny, because I saw a cartoon of him playing ball - you know, the one where he plays every position himself with nobody else on the field but him? Now that I think of it, Bugs is still my idol. You have to love a ballplayer like that.
~Nomar Garciaparra

by UncleLeo on Jun 24, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PS

No matter what Canseco did ….he was such an important part of the team . I wish he was going to be there…the other players have a right to hate him but that shouldn’t keep them from showing their appreciation to the fans that loved them and the team that employed them .

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 23, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

radio talk all says

Canseco would want to be paid to show up. Then again, other sources say he was invited but didn’t RSVP.

I like to think that there is still a chance that he might show up.

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jun 23, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Over at the Daily Dish

Matt Holliday to Giants? (note the question mark)

It sure was easy to join the Daily Dish, “Do you agree to these terms?” “Don’t be mean”, click yes, joined!

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jun 23, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't commit to not being mean.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jun 23, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jun 23, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you have to commit not to regress to it, too?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jun 23, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bleacher Report reports what I'm thinking

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/205050-as-haunted-by-ghosts-of-oakland-past/show_full

Last night on NBC broadcast (featuring Jon Miller, Krukow, and Ray Fosse – VERY entertaining between Miller and Fosse), they even did a freakin’ Eric Byrnes crashing-into-Coliseum-walls highlight reel. I thought it a bit odd that they would show highlights of such a fan favorite who wasn’t retired, honored with some award, or part of the ’89 team.

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jun 23, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

So that article gets me more Aggro

Marco Scutaro, Nick Swisher and Matt Stairs didn’t make their names in non playoff seasons.
The A’s have plenty of young guys on the team… the entire rotation is basically first year players, the “closer” is a first year player, the catcher is a second year player, the center fielder is a second year player. The Giants have Ishikawa and Sandoval and Shcierholtz (or however you spell it)
The A’s don’t market their past ENOUGH. Ugh.

by jeffro on Jun 23, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully he's not the CFer for long. I've soured on Sweeney - he's simply

not developing as a hitter.

Scarily I’d give Davis the everyday job in CF and see where he goes with it. Buck would start in RF, Holliday in LF (till traded) and Sweeney as the 4th OFer. Granted in my world Giambi is cut and Barton starts at 1B, but there you go.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jun 23, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you on Barton

Why are Buck and Cunningham not playing in the majors every day? This team ain’t winning squat, get rid of Holliday and Giambi, who have no future on this team and are blocking players who do. That’s how you rebuild a team for contention.

"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt

by Philip Christy on Jun 23, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well neither Cunningham or Buck can play CF I don't believe

and we shouldn’t be in any rush to move Holliday – we really need a to get a good package for him considering what we gave up.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jun 23, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's true

Frustrating though. True they can’t play center, but they CAN play the corners, where they should be playing so we can see if they are to be a part of our future. They have more upside than Sweeney unless he starts hitting homers.

"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt

by Philip Christy on Jun 23, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Barton Sucks

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jun 23, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, just bought a ticket with the '1989' promo code.

Probably end up moving around though. If it’s anything like last night’s crowd, there will be a little space to spread out.

Anyone else going?

by LoneStranger on Jun 23, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wes, gigs, and me

242, Row 12, I think.

by lynnzgal on Jun 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

225, Row 17 for me, but I expect to wander part of the night.

If you see a guy in a Phoenix, AZ shirt and a Rollie Fingers mustache, it’s me. I’ll see if I can sneak into 242.

by LoneStranger on Jun 23, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oooh, we should all wander

we should all hang out at the 1989 tarp. Do you think they’ll let us?

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 23, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If there's enough of us, can they stop us all?

by LoneStranger on Jun 23, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

222 Row 6

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 23, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This all makes me want to move.

Bring Jerry AND Gio back!

by ZigFan31 on Jun 23, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a91pJDut50E&feature=fvw

by LoneStranger on Jun 23, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yay, for cute animals dancing!

Still not as good as my moves Saturday night!

Bring Jerry AND Gio back!

by ZigFan31 on Jun 23, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you have a youtube video of it?

by LoneStranger on Jun 23, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No...:-(

Bring Jerry AND Gio back!

by ZigFan31 on Jun 23, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Was it as good as this?

Link.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jun 23, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can use a roomy.

But I get the big bedroom. It’s where I do all my thinking.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 23, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I usually do my best thinking in confined spaces.

In the shower, and on the toilet. That’s just how I roll.

by LoneStranger on Jun 23, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

this will teach me to not check AN before leaving the office.....

didn’t get the location until now. Oh well.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 23, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish I could reply while using my phone, sitting in my seats. I feel so disconnected from the community.

Disconnected while right in the middle of it.

by LoneStranger on Jun 24, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

About the charity bit, I think Albany is still part of the Bay Area, right?

by MobiusKlein on Jun 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

that's the only bay area one of the three.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 23, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A link

for all you anti-zombie folks.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 23, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs