DLD 6-02-09: closing in on DiMaggio
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 12:07 AM PDT
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No, I don't mean Ichiro, who extended his hitting streak to 25 games last night, not even halfway to Joe DiMaggio's remarkable run of 56 games in 1941 (he also hit in 61 straight in the minors).
The title is in reference to my parents, who today celebrate their 53rd wedding anniversary. I have mentioned Dad on this site plenty of times, but nary a word about Mom. Until now.
Anita Dolores Martinez was born in La Junta, Colorado but her family moved to Oakland when she was a young girl. She graduated from McClymonds High School (Class of '54), which is also where baseball great Frank Robinson ('53) and basketball legend Bill Russell ('52) attended. Russell, in fact, was in Mom's typing class; she says he spent as much time fixing the typewriters as he did sitting at one. (He later found better use for his hands: defending the post for the 11-time NBA champion Boston Celtics). Frank Robinson is the only player to win a Most Valuable Player award in both leagues, and he held the record for most homeruns by a rookie (38 in 1956) until a guy named McGwire broke it. To have a classmate turn pro is cool enough, but Mom went to high school with two future Hall-of-Famers, in different sports to boot.
I guess the games have always been apart of her life. Mom was born in 1936, as were sports notables Jim Brown, Wilt Chamberlain, Don Drysdale, and John Madden. Baseball's Hall-of-Fame welcomed its first members that year.
And then there was Giuseppe Paolo DiMaggio, Jr. who made his big-league debut two months before my mom was brought into this world. Incidentally, DiMaggio was born not as a Martinez, but in Martinez, not very far from where my grandparents- Abel and Antonia Martinez- would come to call home.
Before he was the Yankee Clipper, DiMaggio was a San Francisco Seal of the Pacific Coast League. He later served as a coach for our very own A's during the team's first season in Oakland in 1968.
The night Jeremy Giambi forgot to slide, we must have had forty family members at the Coliseum. I stood afterwards staring at the empty field, stunned at an opportunity missed. Brothers and sisters, nephews and nieces, uncles and aunts, cousins and second cousins filed past me, not one of them saying a word. Finally Mom gently tapped my arm. "Come on Don; it's over."
It surely was.
What isn't over is a marriage that has spanned five decades, including the sixties; when that tumultuous period came to a close, Mom had given birth to her eighth future A's fan in twelve years.
Alas, the more things change, the more they stay the same. On the day my parents were wed, the A's (Kansas City) were in last place, with a 16-25 record, a dozen games behind the Yankees.
Ok, enough of the sappy crap. Don't just sit there, pretending to be working as your boss walks by! Link, people!
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My mom is from La Junta too!
I'm not a big wine guy... Where do you grow the BEER?
by str8tarrow on Jun 2, 2009 7:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome!
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mom's from Indianapolis.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that's not awesome, 67M?
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's extra awesome
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mum is from Oldham, so I win (somehow).
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Oldham have a team?
I’m trying to figure out who to support, dammit.
My only requirements are: No Chelsea, no Man U.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oldham Athletic, hence my name (and my fantasy team name:
the Oldham Athletics). They’re in League One though.
You’ll want to support a Premier League team though if you plan on seeing them on tv.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they show soccer on television?
well, I guess with all those channels, they’ve got to put something on, now, don’t they?
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They show football, yeah.
Huge money in it too. Not so sure what this soccer malarkey is though.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither.
…and I’m well aware of football being on television. It’s everywhere on Saturday and Sunday—day and night! Hell, they’ve even expanded to Monday night and Thursday night. The place is nuts about it!
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not this place.
And by “this place”, I mean AN.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, the thing with being a cheapskate
Is that I don’t pay money for channels like Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel, or GOL TV.
I pretty much have to follow any non-MLS (blech) footy action through the intertoobs.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justin.tv is decent for that I think.
But you’re looking at the big four (Liverpool, L’Arse, Man U, Chelski) if you’re thinking about watching a team consistently as it’s fan driven.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to your Parents.
In my opinion, it’s getting more rare to find any couple who have been married for more than 15 years. My parents have been married for 55 years. My better half & I are in our 16th year. I guess if you look at marriage like its work, it never works.
That’s a great picture of Dimaggio. I can see Monday & Jackson. Another guy looks like Bando. Who is to the left of Jackson?
Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.
by alpine26 on Jun 2, 2009 8:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TY, and agreed.
I want to say the other player- and yes, that is Bando- is John Donaldson.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean that wasn't obvious...
Everyone knows John Donaldson!
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jun 2, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Who?
I’ve heard of Sam Donaldson., but not John. Anyway, I wish I had a set of those original A’s uniforms from 1968. That would be a real highlight for any A’s collector. The DiMaggio attire would easily go in excess of six figures.
Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.
by alpine26 on Jun 2, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My parents will hit 54 years in July
Oh, you wanted link dumps. OK then, here’s a reason for LB to join Lookout Landing.
"Until Holiday comes around, I will refer to him as Coors Light." Ak_A
by doctorK on Jun 2, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shoot
That alone might turn him into a full-fledged Mariner fan.
Hey, I once spent 54 days with the same woman. That’s pretty good, right?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, that's a long-term relationship!
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
by pam5981 on Jun 2, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It certainly is better than the 54 hours ...
oh wait, never mind
"Until Holiday comes around, I will refer to him as Coors Light." Ak_A
by doctorK on Jun 2, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LB is jumping ship as we speak.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
by pam5981 on Jun 2, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
must....resist,,,,urge...to...become...Mariners...fan.....
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACK!
….thanks, Mike.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm here for you, baby.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I seem to have found like-minded people.
Creepy.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me rescind that and instead offer:
doctorK found like-minded people for me.
Really creepy.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*sniff* That hurts, man. After all we've done for you. *sob*
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
roh?
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
President Roh?
Royal Opera House? Royal Orthopaedic Hospital? Ruh roh Raggy?
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ruh roh!!
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." Vin Scully
by One won lost won on Jun 3, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations to your parents!
53 years is quite amazing.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jun 2, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
First off congrats to your parents
Second, I didn’t know Joe DiMaggio was from Martinez. I was also born in Martinez and have never lived anywhere else. Learn something new everyday. This was an awesome read as are all of your other posts,
by thesteve9x on Jun 2, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Beautful story Marquez
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Jun 2, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This made
me laugh:
“Dear God, this year please send clothes for all those poor ladies in Daddy’s computer,
Amen.”
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
from a website called "datingnmore.com"????
I’m afraid to click on your links 67M….oh, and oddly enough, that one is blocked here at work….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jun 2, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with gigs on this one.
I just clicked over there and immediately thought, “What the hell is he doing here?”
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that was going to come back
to bite me in the ass.
Brother 2 sent me that in an e-mail, and since this is a DLD, I found the site where he got it from. So the question is, what is he doing there. Married with three little babies. His wife will be so hurt.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so easy to blame others....
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you refer to your brothers by their number to their face?
It’s always intrigued me.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stangely enough, I only do that here.
They’d probably hurt me otherwise.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's because they're all a bunch of bastards!
metaphorically speaking, Mr and Mrs. 67M…
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh huh, sure....
“my brother sent it to me”….I’ve heard that one before….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jun 2, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my sister sent it to me?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's June!
Time to sell Sell SELL!!!
"Until Holiday comes around, I will refer to him as Coors Light." Ak_A
by doctorK on Jun 2, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
67M and me had a bet. For one dollar.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I won!
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it certainly wasn't the Duke-
at least not until after the all-star game.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Jun 3, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randall does not approve.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 3, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Joe,
These never before seen photos of Marilyn blew me away!
by lynnzgal on Jun 2, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
she's pur-ty.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to work on a time machine and some pick-up lines
by Ray of Lite on Jun 3, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More important, congratulations to your parents, 67M!
I always enjoy reading your posts. Your love of and pride in your family always shines through, and that’s to be treasured for sure.
by Ray of Lite on Jun 3, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Start with "nice shoes"
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 3, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank me later.
Seth Grahame-Smith discusses and signs Pride and Prejudice and Zombies at Diesel Books in Oakland.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
by pam5981 on Jun 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pam crosses over to the zombie side
God bless her. I’m all alone now. {shudders}
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He actually sounds like a,,,
I dunno. A something.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soon to come,
yes, a movie.
Oh! And I love this…
"Why else in the original should a regiment arrive on Lizzie Bennet’s doorstep when they should have been off fighting Napoleon?
"It was to protect the family from an invasion of brain-eaters, obviously."
by lynnzgal on Jun 2, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to your parents, 67M!
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 2, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats and have you seen
Oaklandish? Local Love. Get your Rollie Tshirts NOW!
"It’s kind of like wishing one of our current players would turn into the second coming of Rickey." 67Marquez. April 28, 2009
by LongTimeFan on Jun 2, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I must have that.
Who’s our big Rollie-mustache fan? Is it batgirl? Can’t recall.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the whole concept.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yo tambien
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
But I might have to get this one first, to wear to work.
by Englishmajor on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got the standard Oaklandish t-shirt in bright green
Every time I wear it outside of Oakland, be it in SF, LA, or Boston, Oakland people always spot it and give me props for wearing it. Every time.
I love Oakland pride. It’s so …. Oaklandish.
by cityplANner on Jun 3, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody lose a cell phone?
If so, calling it to try and get it back might not be the best idea ever.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, at least we're not the Mets
Jon Hurwitz posted this link on Twitter today (with some choice swear words) and I lifted it from him.
We suck and we have lots of injuries—but no swine flu. I shouldn’t have said that. Now we’ll probably get it too.
by worldblee on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there an open thread tonight?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 2, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just did it.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 2, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if this was posted
But maybe trading Holliday shouldn’t be a foregone conclusion. Link
Olney speculates that the market for free agents could be just as bad this winter and that Holliday might have to settle for a 3 or 4 year deal similar to what Adam Dunn signed. I have been very skeptical of the A’s chances of keeping Holliday beyond this year but if his price really has dropped this much due to the economy and his poor performance outside of Coors it may be something to consider.
by DiegoAsFan on Jun 3, 2009 1:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Leitch
rocks a Dallas Braden jersey.
by cityplANner on Jun 3, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is a lot of ZZZZZZZ's in this one
Bad spellers of the world untie.
by A'sfaninNC on Jun 3, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is kind of gross
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Jun 3, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What amazes me is that they need to specify
“largest natural breasts”. That means someone out there is getting fake ones that are even bigger.
OK, I can understand that some women want to make their boobs bigger, but forty pounds bigger?? That’s just freak show.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Jun 3, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Tonight talks Outman
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/notebook?page=bbtn
When A’s rookie Josh Outman takes the mound Wednesday night against the White Sox, he’ll look to improve on his 2-0 record as well as continue a streak of four consecutive quality starts. Outman posted a 2.45 ERA in May, 11th-best in the American League (min. 20 IP) and picked up two wins in five starts. What has been the secret to his success?
His off-speed pitches have been among the most effective in the league. He has the lowest off-speed batting average against in the majors and is in the top 20 for slugging percentage against. Plus, his swing-and-miss percentage and strikeout percentage are both well above the league average.
The White Sox present a tough test for Outman. They have the best batting average (.252) and slugging percentage (.410) against non-fastballs in the American League entering Tuesday.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Jun 3, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nevermoore might like this
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Jun 3, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Images from last night's game
at SFGate, including Vin after the pie.
by lynnzgal on Jun 3, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like pie.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 3, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read an article on the A's on fangraphs,
and stumbled upon this interesting response (a little more than halfway down the page) to some anti-Beane sentiment. I thought it was well written and right on, so I thought I’d share it here.
On a tiny fraction of what large market teams have spent, Beane has consistently put together a successful team. The last few years have not been good to the A’s, I admit. Still, I think being one of the most successful GM’s in history gets him a nod, even if the last season or two have not been stellar. Has any GM every won more games per dollar spent relative to the league average?
I think the hard reality of baseball is that winning with the knowledge game is over. Yes, there are still frontiers like fielding defense, but the era of trading a .280/.310/.450 hitter for a .230/.360/.470 hitter are long gone. Beane was very successful because he had the balls to say "Fuck this, smart people tell me that BA is shit and OBP means a lot more and I’m building a team around that idea." But nobody can use that philosophy anymore: the stubbornest GMs in baseball now know that OBP matters.
Don’t be glad Beane can no longer be a dominant GM: it means that smarts is no longer a factor and money can rule the game once again. We’re about to return to dynasties of yore, with money predicting what makes a dynasty.
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
by travdog6 on Jun 4, 2009 2:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, if it's measured like that, yes.
Has any GM every won more games per dollar spent relative to the league average?
During Beane’s eleven full seasons as GM, the A’s payroll per win is $517,254. That’s pretty good, especially compared to big-spending teams like the Yankees. But over the same period, the Florida Marlins paid only $433,035 per win. During Andrew Friedman’s four full seasons as GM, the Rays have paid $457,186 per win.
The point is that if you’re measuring wins per payroll, the best way to score on that count is to have a really low payroll. To illustrate, look at the 2003 season. The A’s scored 96 wins with a payroll of only $50,260,834. But the Rays’ payroll that same year was $19,630,000 — well under half as much. Thus the Rays could have half as many wins that year and still get more wins per payroll. The Rays were awful, but not that awful. They got 63 wins that year which was far better than Oakland’s in terms of wins per payroll.
(I’m not sure what the original commenter means by “relative to the league average”. If all are relative to the same average it has no effect on the rankings. I guess that’s just to even out the years if you’re comparing current GMs against GMs of the past — in which case Friedman’s record compared to Beane’s looks even better.)
I think the better measure would be wins-above-.500 per payroll dollar. I think Beane would probably win that measurement, though Terry Ryan would be right there with him. The two have win and payroll numbers that are pretty close to even.
(Payroll figures from USA Today. Other calculations by me using Excel.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Jun 6, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point,
obviously that’s not the best method to use. but i really like the point that it’s hard for Beane stay ahead of the curve when everyone is catching up with him in regards to obp/undervalued players etc.
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
by travdog6 on Jun 6, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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