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A's Outlast Pads 7-5; Outman Out Early With Injury

A's 7, Padres 5

I told myself tonight at dinner- well, my dog had a date so, yeah- that rather than focus on the ineptitude of the A's offense, I was going to sit back and revel in the awesomeness that has been Josh Outman this season.

Oops.

Outman's evening was cut short due to soreness in his left arm; he left after facing four batters in the second inning.  Meanwhile the A's battled back from behind twice, the second time with a three-run eighth to outlast the Padres. 

Orlando Cabrera struck the big blow, a two-out double over the head of Chase Headley to score the tying and go-ahead runs.

Yeah, you read that right.

It was Headley who started the scoring some seven hours ago (feels like it) with a homerun leading off the second. Something in Outman's delivery prompted a visit from Bob Geren and trainer Stephen Sayles.  Three batters later, they emerged again, this time to remove Outman.

Edgar Gonzalez replaced him, which gave fans a chance to delight in a showdown between the A's pitcher and the Padre right-fielder with the same name.  The hurler not only won both battles, he out-hit the other Gonzalez tonight 2-0.

After the Padres went up 2-love in the third, Oakland struck for three in the third as San Diego starter Wade LeBlanc struggled to find home plate.  Kurt Suzuki got things going with a base hit (the first of three), followed by a walk to Jack Cust and Matt Holliday to load the bases.  LeBlanc then LePlunked Jason Giambi to score Suzuki.  What followed may never happen again: back-to-back sac flies by Cabrera and Bobby Crosby to put the A's in front.

An error by Rajai Davis in the bottom half gave the lead right back, and San Diego regained the lead with a pair in the sixth off Russ Springer (the runs were charged to Gonzalez).

The A's began their comeback on a one-out single by Suzuki.  After Cust lined out, Holliday walked.  Giambi came through with his second hit of the night to drive in Suzuki, setting up Cabrera to play hero.

The A's added a run in the ninth on an RBI-knock by Mr. Suzuki.

Michael Wuertz (who got the win), Craig Breslow, and Andrew Bailey (seventh save) shut down the Padres from the stretch on, surviving a shaky eighth inning to nail down the victory. 

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strange game thread.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I missed most of it.

Re-writing recaps.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

total nerd fest

We might need to implement a Cap & Trade policy for comments like that.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 19, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude,

I thought I was a geek.

I’m a stone cold gangsta pimp. And I had no idea.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well at least you haven't made

a thousand recap errors this week.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That still puts you behind the A's

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't win anything!

Oh.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

wurd.

Ooooo! I wanna be Wee Bey!

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved it

Proof that there are people out there with nerd-fu that puts me to shame.

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I missed it

I have been (re)discovering that Free HiSpeed Internet in America’s hotels is not particularly HiSpeed.

Interleague Play: Celebrating Thirteen Seasons of Suck

by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 20, 2009 4:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

silva pitches for the padres tomorrow

throws R..i say sit cabrera for a day, put crosby at SS and jack the man at 3rd
oh and his era is 6.52…i think we have a chance at 3 in a row

by Deborah51 on Jun 19, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

A’s 6, Padres 5

Sure about that, 67M?

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

drinking and working...

.annnd…that’s what one expects..

"It is the mark of a truly intelligent person to be moved by statistics. " GB Shaw

by One won lost won on Jun 19, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHERE WERE YOU?!

I’ve uncovered evidence that suggests Geren is the head zombie. So if we cut his head off and burn it…

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WAS OUT HUNTING ZOMBIES, MAN!

Burn him? But that would mean that he’s involved with witchcraft.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

nononon

we cut his head off and then burn the head, so it can’t later be reattached ala Evil Dead II.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a good plan. Have you discussed this with the Cap’n yet?

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

he seems more invested in cake.

I fear perhaps some zombie lobbyists have infiltrated his inner sanctum.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes a man must put aside his zombie duties to enjoy the finer points of life.

As for me I spend that time stuffing myself with cake.

Regardless, burning the head is a grand idea. Thought you might want to take off its limbs also.

Each part of a zombie functions on its own, I have heard.

by ElQuesoCapitan on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

sage words.

from the Cap’n.

There’s room to both kill zombies and enjoy cake.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

he weighs the same as a duck.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jun 20, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

He turned me into a newt!

They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!

by muffinpryde on Jun 20, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I left for two innings (fam crap) and kind of had to work from behind. Apparently the A’s are better at it than I.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm Kallus, and I approve of this message.

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

What a relief.

Call it the Suzuki Theory: "Throw ball over plate. Repeat."

by smokelanda on Jun 19, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn straight!

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off topic question

do any other stadiums have standard music they play after home wins?
I’ve only know Cool & the Gang as winning music.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 19, 2009 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Both Seattle and SF

played “Who Let the Dogs Out”.. one year after a win.

That got old very very fast.

"It is the mark of a truly intelligent person to be moved by statistics. " GB Shaw

by One won lost won on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was old before the first time it was done

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a confession to make. And I've been holding it in for a very long time

It was, I, yes I, who let the dogs out. I feel terrible about it, but it feels good to get it off my chest.

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it was I who let the dogs out.

And I am damn proud about it!

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait,

WHO let the dog’s out? (who? who?)

Call it the Suzuki Theory: "Throw ball over plate. Repeat."

by smokelanda on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to let my dog out every night, so I share some of this blame

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

you sure you wanna take the heat for it?

I mean, I had it coming. I’ll take the punishment.

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I was just starting a “I AM SPARTACUS” thing.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, we all let the dogs out

We all go down together. And, WBC, it’s pronounced “SpartaCust”. But that’s cool, though.

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I...AM...SPARTACUST!!!

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

by Blicks on Jun 20, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I AM WHO THEY CALL SPARTACUST.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 20, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, they always play New York, New York ,regardless of outcome at Yankees...

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

that’s awesome, even if it’s not true!

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Love LA - Randy Newman at Dodger Stadium

Call it the Suzuki Theory: "Throw ball over plate. Repeat."

by smokelanda on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Shea/City had Takin’ Care of Business by BTO and Fenway has Dirty Water by The Standells.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dirty Water,

Good song. Horrible city.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone wrote a song about Boston Harbor?

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, I think it's about whatever river they have there.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charles River

Same as Boston Harbor without the salt.

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

do the NYY devils still play new york, ny

put i think that was after every game, not just wins

by Deborah51 on Jun 19, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay!

Cake!

I laid down fireworks in your absence, Cap’n.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

smells like...

I dunno….victory.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet tastes like chicken

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 20, 2009 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

at the game

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

most of em were at the game, I think.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

At Petco Park, cheering our guys on to victory

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You did awesome on your own.

A little too much rum, but awesome.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

beautiful

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

so we have a mutual friend!

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

One degree of separation - Alcohol

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jun 19, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet! a doctor backs me up. Print It!!

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I printed it.

And now?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fax It !

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

if this team couldve stayed around .500

unfortunately bullpen implosion and lousy offense prevented chances for contending.
7 game win steak, followed by 4-6 the next 10.
looking at the milb boxscores and players in SAC hitting great, its time for a roster purge and callup patterson/pennington/petit/buck/cunningham/everidge etc. Also get barton more ab’s,, that he’s losing chances to crosby is ridiculous.

by Asfan4ever723 on Jun 19, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions  

you're a debbie downer and a time thief.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm well-versed.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I reverse well

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

We need to get you rum every night

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jun 19, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember crosby the shortstop

I’m old-school like that

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know, i don't see where o'cab has been an improvement

he’s hitting marginally better, but his defense has not been great. i don’t think it’s been better than croz. maybe he’s having a down year, but i don’t see the value added.

by Deborah51 on Jun 19, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

he hasn't been an improvement....

I’m just showing how “old school I am”. The kids say that that is a good thing. And I defer to them when it comes to matters of coolness

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

i had higher expectations for this team at the beginning of the season

i think i bought into the hype. i wasn’t sure what G would add. i wasn’t thrilled that he was added, but who else did we have at 1st besides barton? our offense has been terrible for years. i don’t know what it is except we don’t have players that can hit. it’s frustrating cuz the pitching is good enough that with a half decent offense we could be a pretty good team. maybe not WS champions, but at least competitive in most games.

the defense has disappointed me more than anything this year. it’s atrocious.

by Deborah51 on Jun 19, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

yum...

I’ll have another bite of that 7 game win steak!

by Chilango on Jun 19, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay, friday night, a's finally win one, going to bed

seems anti-climatic. read the threads. oh, Good Fellas is on TCM

alaska A residing in Idaho.

by ak_A on Jun 19, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

oooh, really?

From as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait a minute.

what am I talking about? I’m Wee Bey! I’m the baddest mofo in the whole of Baltimore, ’cept for maybe Slim Charles.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slim Charles

He didn’t get a lot of screen time, but stayed consistent – and cool – to the end

by bear88 on Jun 19, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of “being gangster,” what about Taylor Swift rapping with T-Pain?

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 19, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

"What? What? I knit sweaters yo!"

Your 2009 Oakland Athetics: This time, it's personal.

by Kallus on Jun 19, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow.

I mean…wow.

Maybe we should go back to discussing hobbits.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taylor Swift is the greatest.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 19, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I have to as well,

though I am very confused by her.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love her songs.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 19, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're allowed.

I think [the A's announcers] just speak in code.. "A tough outing again for Brett Anderson" means "Has anyone checked with his 2nd grade teacher to see if maybe he’s actually right-handed?" --Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 19, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a totally unrelated comment, Grease is the greatest movie ever.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 19, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lies. West Side Story.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

This statement can only be made

by someone too young to distinguish 50s music from 70s music.

Both the old songs and the new songs were good songs (well, sort of), but throwing them together in the same story was an anachronistic abomination.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jun 20, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

that can sort of be explained through the 20-year nostalgia cycle

and the admission that musicals aren’t here for historical accuracy. but it’s definitely a better movie the more you see it, and some people have seen it enough to call it the best. just start by watching it 100 times over the course of your youth, even if peripherally, when your sister gets addicted to it on ON or selecTV or whatever your early 80s cable channel was, until you find yourself (just yesterday for me, kid not) singing beauty school dropout alone in your car. but then, if you still can’t handle Grease, don’t watch Xanadu or you’ll just die.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 20, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I love Xanadu.

I’m not sure you understand my complaint. No, I don’t expect musicals to be historically accurate in their stories, but the whole point of Grease is to be a tribute to a specific era, the late 50s. The style of music is not just incidental to the story; it’s central to the entire concept of the musical. As a general rule, musicals do not adopt the musical style of the period the story is set in, but Grease deliberately does.

But when they made the movie, they abandoned that theme in order to insert a couple of songs in contemporary style, contemporary at the time being late 70s disco. Now I have nothing against disco. In Xanadu, which is all about the 70s, it’s wonderful. Xanadu is a nostalgia movie for me, because it brings me back to that era. Grease simultaneously tries to bring me back to two eras: the one that I remember, when the movie came out, and one that was always in the past for me, where the story is set. For someone for whom both eras were always in the past, I can see how it wouldn’t make a difference, but for me the cognitive dissonance is too severe.

An analogy for the younger generation, I suppose, would be if when they made the movie of “Mamma Mia” they had cast Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers, and then let them sing a few songs in their own current style. Now imagine 15 years from hearing teenagers tell you how nostalgic they feel for “that style” of music. You’ll be like, “WTF?? What do the Jonas Brothers have to do with the 70s?” That’s how Grease is for me.

Anyway, my point isn’t that Grease is a bad movie. I do basically like it. My point is that you can’t see it in the same way if your primary memory of it is from when it was contemporary. (It probably also helps to have no consciousness of the original musical before the movie was made.)

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jun 21, 2009 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

wat

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 19, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm blaming you if I watch until the end

Goodfellas is the easiest Scorsese film to watch when you’re catching it in the middle.

by bear88 on Jun 19, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could start watching it when they

pull up to Tommy’s moms to borrow that knife…and it would all still make perfect sense.

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Jun 20, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh... the Padres

and, we still struggle to win.

"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)

by FoolshGame22 on Jun 20, 2009 12:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Better than losing to the Padres

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 20, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Went to the game, didn't know the A's had that kind of rally in them

Also spent about 3/4 of this trip driving around So Cal.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 20, 2009 1:09 AM PDT reply actions  

it's entirely possible that Cabrera's 35 year old body

no longer permits him to play every inning of every game of the season without some downgrade in his play. But he’s been a good player for many years.

by OaklandSi on Jun 20, 2009 5:13 AM PDT reply actions  

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