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A’s Squander Excellent and Gritty Effort By Braden, Lose 6-3

Beep beep Geren beep beep!

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Beep beep Geren beep beep!

Even pitching with a stomach issue tonight, Dallas Braden was everything you ever wanted from a starting pitcher. He threw seven innings, worked neatly out of a couple of jams, and fielded his position like a natural infielder. The only thing he didn’t do was pitch the complete game, which looked to be the only way he would have secured the win.

It’s hard to know what exactly to pinpoint to describe why the A’s didn’t win the game tonight. Yes, the A’s were almost no-hit from the fourth inning on (a 9th inning pinch-hit double by Giambi was the lone hit after 4). True, the 6-9 hitters were Crosby, Cunningham, Davis, and Hannahan tonight. But the A’s still held a 3-2 lead going to the eighth inning; they had Liriano beaten, and if they wanted to compete this season at all, they had to be able to get six outs for the win. The lack of defined bullpen roles, including a clear set-up man (and closer for that matter), the overuse of a rookie pitcher, the underuse perhaps of the one veteran on the starting staff, and having a manager who looks surprised when his clever match-ups are foiled by the newfangled pinch hitter rule aren’t going to cut it. Despite all that was stacked against them tonight, the A’s needed six outs to win; and they didn’t get one.

The game itself was picture perfect for seven innings. Braden got in some mild trouble in the first, but Rajai Davis (who took some interesting routes to the ball tonight; very Byrnes-esque) threw Mauer out at third on an absolute seed that landed in Hannahan’s glove right as the runner slid in. Braden got in trouble again in the third with a leadoff walk/double combination that would put men on second and third with no one out. They would both score.

But the A’s came right back against Liriano with a single by Davis and Hannahan. Davis would score the A’s first run on Cabrera’s DP. The A’s would get another run in the fourth; after Holliday just missed a homerun, Suzuki doubled him in from second. After Crosby struck out (Crosby was Giambi’s replacement tonight and looked horribly overmatched by Liriano, Barton could hardly have been worse at the plate, even considering the splits), Cunningham came up for an interesting at-bat. Up 2-0 in the count, he swung at a ball inside and in the dirt for his first strike, swung through for his second strike and then stayed alive on some tough pitches before working a walk from Liriano. It would matter at the time. Rajai Davis came up, and shot a single to center field to give the A’s the go-ahead run. It was all pitching after that.

The Twins got something started again in the top of the fifth inning, with the first two runners reaching base, but they chose to bunt Gomez, and Braden was ready. He fielded the ball and threw a perfect strike to Hannahan for the out. Harris grounded into the DP, leaving M&M out of the inning. It looked all good for the A’s.

Braden pitched into the seventh, and made the last out of his night; a sliding play to surround a bunt, then popping back up and firing to first for the out. It was a great play; a great pitching performance, and he surely deserved better than he got.

Things were clicking along quite well, and operation Win The Game was in full swing until the eighth. With Braden at 96 pitches, and a rested Ziegler (who would not make an appearance in the game) and an overworked Bailey (who would make a terrible appearance later), Geren chose to match-up Wuertz against Carlos Gomez. Of course (as anyone with a lineup card could deduce), Wuertz did not pitch to Gomez; he pitched to the lefty pinch-hitting Kubel. I bet the A’s clubhouse cam showed "surprise" as the facial expression.

Kubel--no kidding--homered to tie the game on the first pitch he saw. What was interesting and a bit heartbreaking about getting the news of Braden’s no-decision was that Braden was actually being interviewed at the exact same time that Wuertz gave up the homerun Of course, he’s a lot more diplomatic than I. He said something nice about his team, and how they work together. My interview would have read with some beeps and Gerens.

That turned out to be the game right there; instead of using the fresh Ziegler for the tie-game ninth and perhaps giving Bailey one more night off, and Ziggy a chance to get through the ninth (maybe even the tenth) and letting the A’s offense try one more time for the win (Pinch-hitting Giambi smoked a ball off Nathan that easily could have gone out), Geren threw Bailey in the tie game. Bailey (with a little creative fielding on the leadoff triple) gave up three runs, and the game, and is certainly unavailable tomorrow.

Make of it what you will. The A’s drop a tough game, but they can't dwell for very long. They have to come out and play in just a few hours; let's hope for a different outcome. Cahill tries to tie the series tomorrow at 12:35.

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Seems this one ought to start up the "Fire Geren" mantra again

And based on use of the bullpen tonight it’s hard not to agree.

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by Flashfire on Jun 10, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you think that Ron Gardenhire was thinking,

Please put in Wuertz so I can send Kubel up instead of Gomez”? You’re supposed to try to avoid making moves that make the other manager go, “Oh THANK you!”

Braden should have started the inning just to keep Gomez in the game. If he couldn’t go, frankly it would have been smarter to use Breslow for hitters 1-4 than to go to Wuertz there. Or Bailey. Even Ziggy at least usually keeps the ball in the park and gives you time to go, “Oh yeah, he doesn’t do so well against lefties, huh?”

Basically Wuertz was the poorest choice possible because it played right into the Twins’ hands.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 10, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And by the way, to show I'm not just bagging on the manager,

no matter how Geren played it, the A’s were probably going to lose tonight because at some point Bailey would come in and when he did he’d implode – because apparently that was his lot tonight. It’s just that had Bailey started the 8th, or relieved Braden to face M & M, or started the 9th with a lead, it would have been on the pitchers, not on the manager once again looking like the opposing manager’s female dog.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 10, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES. That is it.

Give your pitchers the best chance to succeed; if they fail, it’s on their pitching, you didn’t set them up to fail. Geren set Wuertz up to fail, and it was CRIMINAL that Ziggy was left in the bullpen…even at 3-3, rest Bailey!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jun 10, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WRONG. It's not Geren's fault.

From Urban’s recap:

Braden hasn’t lost since May 16 and was leading, 3-2, when he told Geren he was done after throwing 96 pitches.

“With the bullpen we have, I didn’t want to go out there and try to be a hero,” Braden said. “But I should have put the stomach and the arm stuff aside for one more inning, so I’ll wear this one for sure.”

Call it the Suzuki Theory: "Throw ball over plate. Repeat."

by smokelanda on Jun 11, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just Braden being a team player.

It’s on the bullpen imploding of late.

by OldhamA on Jun 11, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's still Geren's fault for pitching Bailey in a tie game

It’s 3-3 in the ninth. Bailey has pitched 4 out of 5 days. Ziggy is well rested; might even be able to go 2…why didn’t he pitch?

Now Bailey is out for tomorrow, AND blew the game tonight. I do blame Geren for that, and for not immediately bringing the lefty in to face Kubel.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jun 11, 2009 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you're the home team and it's tied in the ninth, you bring in your best reliever.

Bringing in Bailey was the right thing to do, regardless of outcome (and looking back at the game thread, it seemed like no one complained about it when he was first brought in). If he brought in Ziggy (who we all know has been rather inconsistent) and Ziggy f*cked up, then I’m willing to bet that quite a few people will be screaming about how Geren should be fired for not bringing in Bailey. Honestly, I don’t see how Geren screwed this up at all.

Lately, when things go wrong in a tight game, it seems like everyone’s first reaction is to hysterically blame Geren. Which is an understandable initial reaction considering the large amount of questionable decisions he’s made this season. But some nights, you could manage everything right (or perhaps the better term is “acceptable”) but the players screw up. This was one of those nights.

by Tripp on Jun 11, 2009 3:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. Bringing in Wuertz was a terrible decision

that played right into Gardenhire’s hands. Bringing in Breslow would have been a better call to keep Gomez and Harris in the game over Kubel; Breslow was going to face the following two hitters anyway. Or Bailey could have faced the top of the order with Ziggy in to face Crede, Cuddyer when the order turned over to all righties.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 11, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would Bailey be out today???

HE ONLY PITCHED 1 DAY!!!

If he were more of a man, like Bailey, he’d probably be starting today’s game too.

:D

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jun 11, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoah -- was this intentional?

“The A’s drop a tough game, and have to come out in just a few hours to do it again tomorrow.”

What that says, literally, is that the A’s have to come out in just a few hours to drop a tough game again tomorrow.

Unless your intention is to sound defeatist, you might want to change that sentence.

by el campysino on Jun 10, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, good call. Will fix.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jun 10, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume those beeps are the sounds of

the best words you could use to describe this game.

by ElQuesoCapitan on Jun 10, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually it was the interview I would have given

had I been Braden with the camera on me when that homerun went out.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jun 10, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You, me, and almost anybody else.

That was a seriously classy performance by DB. I don’t know if I’ve seen anything quite like that.

by el campysino on Jun 10, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defending Geren - sort of

Perhaps I’m being contrarian here, but I just don’t see the Wuertz move as inexplicably stupid.

I’ll concede that I would rather have kept Kubel out of the game. But Wuertz has been one of the team’s best relievers, and had only given up 2 home runs all season. It was obvious that Breslow would be saved to face the lefty sluggers, not to pitch the entire inning. I was satisfied with seven innings out of Braden tonight, especially with his stomach woes.

You can make an argument for Ziggy in the eighth, and while he’s a classic sinkerballer, has been less effective this season than Wuertz. I think this one was just a case of a defensible decision not working out.

I am more critical of using Bailey in the ninth in a tie game. That’s the time to use Ziggy. And once the Twins went ahead, another reliever should have been ready to enter the game so Bailey didn’t through a bunch of pitches in a likely loss.

by bear88 on Jun 10, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why take Braden out at that point?

He was only at 95 pitches and pitched well in the 6th and 7th (7 pitches and 11 pitches). He deserved to start the 8th. If he gives up a hit to the first batter, then you take him out.

by Wolverine on Jun 10, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but...

people were also saying that Braden had an upset stomach or something. Could have been a factor that we don’t know about.

Geren’s not my favorite, but blaming everything on the manager is getting old. It’s getting to the point where people were mad at him for first not putting Bailey in the eighth, then for putting Bailey in the ninth instead of resting him. I don’t think there’s anything that Geren could do to make ANers happy at this point.

by DDroney on Jun 10, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As the game went on...

…I found myself being madder about Bailey’s use than Wuertz. I was pissed that he gave up that homerun, but he overall has been great. I would probably have pitched Braden for Gomez, or thought about using Ziggy (he is not a candidate for the long ball), or even Bailey himself for the high-leverage eighth, but trotting Bailey out in a tie game in the ninth with a fresh Ziggy on the bench was ridiculous.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jun 10, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with Bear88

Assuming that Braden was spent and needed to come out, Wuertz makes sense to me. The decision I would second-guess is whether, once Kubel was subbed in, you take Wuertz right back out again (saving him for tomorrow) and go to Breslow for the next four hitters.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jun 10, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could get behind that.

I just think Kubel/Wuertz was the matchup that the Twins were looking for.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jun 11, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't do it

By rule, once a pitcher comes in, he must pitch to at least one batter (unless he gets hurt). A rule designed to preclude just the kind of non-appearance “appearance” you describe. If the other manager pinch-hits on your first batter, you’re stuck with it. Wuertz is generally not that vulnerable to lefties, but sometimes the other hitters get you.

by Faust on Jun 11, 2009 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. The choice was Wuertz vs. Kubel or Breslow vs. Gomez

Seems like an easy choice to me. Plus if you put in Breslow to face hitters 1-4, you will have Wuertz available later if you want.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 11, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that rule.

I could have sworn I remember a game where there were two or three switches back and forth where guys were in and out without a pitch. That was about 12 years ago. Is this a recent change, or am I just remembering wrong?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jun 11, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's always been that way.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 11, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bailey had a bad game.

We are already expecting so much from that kid. Geren had good reason to feel confident that he could pitch a good inning.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he was obviously really off tonight.

Wild pitches and bad control…he’s bound to have a bad game once in a while. The part that pisses me off was that the crowd was booing him.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 10, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was a crowd?

It looked like a ghost town on TV. But that does suck about the crowd. It especially sucks in light of how well he’s pitched overall in his appearances.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Plaza Reserved, bleachers and most of the 2nd deck were fairly full.

($2 Wednesdays). But of course that brings in a lot of people who don’t necessarily follow the A’s on a regular basis and don’t know how freaking awesome Andrew Bailey really is.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 10, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well at least he had an audience.

Glad to know it wasn’t as empty as it looked. I was a little worried because i bought a ticket for the series against the Giants tonight and there were so many good seats left. I was shocked by that.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

booing Bailey

I was there (and not booing). It seemed a very casual crowd last night. A lot of semi-interested fans, most of whom probably don’t know Bailey from Ziegler. It was a bummer they chose to express themselves with booing, but I’m sure Bailey can handle it: they’re just stupid fans.

by Brian in 317 on Jun 11, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I agree.

It was just annoying.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 11, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were booing Bailey?

That’s unforgivable.

I didn’t hear it watching the game on MLB TV. If it’s true … well, I don’t feel like following that through right now.

by el campysino on Jun 10, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bailey does not deserve that

Unacceptable

will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody

by day-to-day on Jun 11, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF

That ain’t right.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jun 11, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and when all the RAFs get home and check in here,

I want to hear about Rajai’s socks. Did they rock?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jun 10, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Back to normal.

None of that halfway crap like last night.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 10, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also? Rajai Davis scares the crap out of me in center.

I nearly had a heart attack. Twice.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 10, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fosse was full of praise for him.

It was kind of silly because he made easy catches look TOUGH.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And missed one he should have caught (the triple).

He did get to that ball right? It looked like he got a glove on it.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 10, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it went off of his glove. It wasn't an easy one but

still if you can touch it you should be able to catch it. I never miss Mark Kotsay but the guy was beautiful in the field. That part does make me a little wistful.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotsay was awesome.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jun 10, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His fielding was a thing of beauty when he was in his prime.

Too bad he was a ringleader in that Macha debacle.

by IM4Oakgal on Jun 10, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't really bother me.

Macha was terrible and Kotsay was one of the veterans on the team.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jun 11, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its over!!!!!

You folks were all going crazy that Bailey was the “Shit”. As you can see not going happen as Mr Bailey you have been figured out!!!!!

by granja on Jun 11, 2009 5:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You got to be kiding me

Dallas pitched a great game. then the fucking bullpen cant hold a lead.

by Tambo45 on Jun 11, 2009 8:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Braden was battling stiff shoulder as well

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/athletics/detail?&entry_id=41564

He’s a gamer.

At one point, he said he called catcher Kurt Suzuki out to the mound to ask if his pitches seemed to be flattening out and he said Suzuki’s response was that his stuff was “poor at best, but not in those words.”

by Trainman on Jun 11, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I finally read the caption on the Braden photo in this story.

In my head I totally read it as the noise the Roadrunner makes. Not Braden swearing at Geren.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jun 12, 2009 1:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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