Monday's Mazzaro is the Man Manana Minor League Update
by grover on Jun 1, 2009 9:30 PM PDT
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I had absolutely no intention of writing an update today, as I’ve got a 200+ comment diary rolling and I’m coming down with a bug… so I should be limiting my time on AN and getting some rest.
But NOOOO!
The A’s done gone and plan to call up Vin Mazzaro
to pitch on Tuesday and I would be remiss in my duties as AN’s minor league writer if I didn’t suck it up and give the masses the info they crave on tomorrow’s starting pitcher.
I’m not sure who the A’s plan on waiving/cutting/60 Day DLing from the 40 man roster to make room for Mazzaro but my guess is Rajai Davis, with the waiver wire and on to Sacramento. The way I see it, Cunningham and Buck (once he returns from the DL) will get the bulk of the playing time in RF. Add Sweeney and Holliday, plus Cust when he’s not DHing and you’ve got your big league outfield depth. And what if the A’s need another outfielder between Wednesday and whenever Buck gets back? Old stand-by Chris Denorfia gets the call.
Primarily a fastball/slider pitcher (FB in the low-90’s with reports that it can touch 95, BA grades the slider as an average big league offering) it seems like he’s always been working on his change-up. Perhaps his off-speed pitch is starting to come around as he’s shown marked improvement vs. lefty batters in 2009. (Lefties posted a 1.33 WHIP vs. Mazzaro in 2008; they’re at 1.06 this season.) Mazzaro also improved his numbers vs. RH batters. Basically, he’s shown improvement across the board two months into the season.
But is this improvement for real or is Mazzaro just hot? Hard to say for certain, although I feel the A’s are rushing him just a bit. I’d have preferred another month of AAA dominance before calling him up but oh well. Tuesday’s performance won’t really answer the question either, as if he does poorly you could just chalk it up to rookie jitters and if he pitches great it could be an affect of no one having a book on the rookie pitcher and he catches the White Sox by surprise. What ever he does, I’d like to see him last at least 6 innings so the bullpen doesn’t get worn out.
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Seems like the issue with Mazzaro has always been
his secondary pitches. Reports have his sinker as being a mid-90s version of Cahill’s and in Spring Training when I saw him – and he had his first bad outing that day – it was clear that his fastball jumps out of his hand onto the hitter.
So to me the key question is whether he has gotten his slider and/or changeup to be at least average – in which case he could be an exciting addition to the major league team – or whether he’ll be a one-pitch pitcher with a great pitch, a scenario that will still get him into trouble in the big leagues.
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by Nico on Jun 1, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mid-90s version of Cahill's?
Wasn’t Cahill in like 4th grade in the mid-90s?
by RayJEdd on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he could work wonders with that Whiffle Ball.
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by kaweahkaweah on Jun 2, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think he's actually up to stay?
or is this just filling a role due to the current lack of pitchers? i also worry that we sometimes rush our top players up too quickly, though with our injury issues, sometimes we really don’t have an option.
by guy incognito on Jun 1, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's up to stay unless he tanks bigtime
I wish the A’s had handled Cahill exactly the way they handled Mazzaro: 2 months at AAA to harness his talent, then a “welcome to the Show” callup June 1st.
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by Nico on Jun 1, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with grover, would have preferred another month in AAA for mazzaro
(if he’s up for good – if its just a spot start, whatever). i worry that he’ll struggle out of the gate…the question is, do they yank him, or let him work it out in the bigs? and what happens with gallagher and gio this year if mazzaro is indeed up to stay?
by guy incognito on Jun 1, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This means the rotation is now set.
1) Braden
2) Anderson
3) Cahill
4) Outman
5) Mazzaro
Unless someone is traded, gets injured, or implodes Gallagher, Gonzalez, and Eveland will be down in AAA a long time.
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by Threepwood XX on Jun 1, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A mixed reaction from me
This is good:
The skipper did commit to Mazzaro sticking around, though. He’ll also start Sunday at home against the Orioles and next Friday in San Francisco against the Giants.
“It definitely isn’t a one-shot deal,” Geren said of Mazzaro’s promotion, which will bring together for the first time in the regular season all three of Oakland’s top pitching prospects.
I’m glad the A’s aren’t pulling a Gio/Gallagher on us again. And Mazzaro does have a 3.32 FIP (although with a .32 HR rate). But that .257 BABIP is certainly helping his ERA. Actually looking at his stats, maybe it is a good idea to call him up when he has a ton of confidence.
Still, I don’t want the A’s to rush another top prospect. However, I’ll defer to their judgment on this one. Eventually I’d like to see Gio and Gallagher back in the rotation of course.
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by vignette17 on Jun 1, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If he's solid, who becomes trade bait
Gio or Gallagher?
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by mikev on Jun 1, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gio, IMO
I see Gallagher as more likely to find MLB success.
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by Blicks on Jun 1, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Gallagher would think about changing his delivery
A lot of wasted motion in there, and poor momentum.
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoping 4 rookie luck
I hope Mazzaro has a great game tomorrow.When is Justin Duchscherer expected back ?
by Irj on Jun 1, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Oh, you actually think he’ll come back?
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by mikev on Jun 1, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's in Chavez-land to me
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by Helloooo 1st on Jun 1, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duchschere'r back
is the problwm now
by OaklandSi on Jun 2, 2009 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if this works do you think they will make a movie about it?
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by A'sfaninNC on Jun 2, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have liked to see Mazzaro dominate in AAA another month.
It was obvious they rushed Cahill and Anderson this year. The one thing Mazzaro has going for him is that his fastball has movement. The key is will he be able to change speeds.
by Tbone 1 on Jun 1, 2009 11:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I just don’t get why you bring up a young guy with little AAA experience to a team that is so clearly not contending. What is the harm in leaving him down, and more importantly what good comes from bringing him up? Especially with Dana Eveland not pitching so Dana Evelandly his last few starts.
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by travdog6 on Jun 1, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to a team that is so clearly not contending.
Ol’ Geren disagrees.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jun 1, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Dana Evelandly"--what a great adverb
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by kaweahkaweah on Jun 2, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Denorfia ranks highly in the A's considerations at this point.
He’s 28 and hasn’t been playing much CF (9 games in center, 19 in the corners), and if Denorfia can’t play center you’ve got to think his WAP (Wins Above Putnam, in this case) is slipping. In his three years with this organization he’s been healthy for all of 352 PA, and hasn’t been anywhere near the hitter he was before his surgery. I call flame out.
Matt Carson has been taking over center for the Cats. He’s a year younger than Norfs and he mashed lefties for a .961 ops last year. He’s not a real prospect, and he’s not on the 40 man roster, but he could be a good contingency plan if the A’s want to make Rajai go away but are reluctant to add Brown to the 40-man. Oh, and with the state of the A’s overworked bullpen, they could always turn Matt into a ROOGY (3.49 FIP vs. RH!)
by scromulus on Jun 1, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The only reason he is coming up now is because Duch is in real trouble
His target date is now mid-July, so no way he is going to be traded – sucks for us. I think if Duch was going to be back in June, Vin would have stayed down in the minors and we would have brought Eveland back up. I think the A’s want to see what they have with Vin and if he struggles we still have the Gio, Gallagher, and Eveland in the minors. I would love to see Raji placed on waivers, but my guess is Edgar Gonzalez, the guy stinks.
by ryanmoser on Jun 2, 2009 6:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why not both, and put Geren on the bus out of town with them?
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by A'sfaninNC on Jun 2, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited to se Vinny tonight!
As far as I’m concerned, the best time to bring up a youngster is when he “does have a lot of confidence” and is having success.
I’m not sure what good it would do to bring up Eveland at this point. In my opinion, he sucks, and I’m not sure he is ever going to pan out for the A’s as a legit big league starter.
In the long run I see Eveland as a long man, if he sticks around at all, or being trade bait, along with Gio, for a NL team….something tells me both of those guys might fare better in the senior circuit. I have not lost faith in Sean Gallagher yet because I think the boy has too much talent not to turn it around, and he’s still a mere 23 years old.
Thanks for the info/update on our biy Mazzaro, grover.Go A’s!
p.s. Please get Rajai Davis off this F****ing roster! Thanks..
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by mrod on Jun 2, 2009 6:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this comment from John Shea about the new addditon
“Mazzaro will join the A’s rotation and make his big-league debut tonight. At 22, he’s the old man among the organization’s top pitching prospects. Anderson and Cahill are 21.
The other two starting pitchers: Josh Outman (24) and Dallas “Gramps” Braden (25)."
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
by mrod on Jun 2, 2009 6:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For Barden it should of been
Dallas “Gramps Pepe” Barden
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by A'sfaninNC on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I would rather have Raji placed on waiver, and Edgar cut and bring up Denorfia, and send cunningham down
I would rather have Cunningham play everyday in sacto and brought up when Holliday is traded. Denorfia is a huge upgrade over Raji, I’m still not sure why he isn’t up with the club and send Raji packing for the independent league.
by ryanmoser on Jun 2, 2009 6:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
as for the roster move today...
I think Giese goes to the 60-day DL. His injury sounds significant. I doubt it will be Davis – the A’s seem to have a love affair with the guy. Denorfia hasn’t been playing very well in Sac either. He’s coming off an injury and the peripherals show that he’s a little rusty.
If the Mazzaro move is the A’s throwing in the towel for the season, than today should be massacre day. I would like to see Hannahan, Davis, Springer and Crosby off the 40-man roster tonight. Bring up Pennington, Patterson, Schroder and Barton. Might as well see if these guys have a future in this organization and I’d rather see new blood than to see Hannahan/Davis/Crosby have another at-bat. I’d be able to stomach a 100-loss season watching the potential future – not the AAAA’s!
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by athleticsBB4life on Jun 2, 2009 7:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
seconded...
if the A’s brass is writing off the season i say go for whole sale changes
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by A'sfaninNC on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not time to give up yet. We are in 2nd Place!
2nd place as in Washington is the only team with a worse record than the A’s.
I like that Cahill, Anderson and Mazzaro are getting this year to play and 2010 the A’s will have 3 veteran pitchers.
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by Eastbayjim on Jun 2, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but sometimes when you are on the edge the best thing to do is just jump
its like pulling a band aid off, just grip it and rip it…come to think about it, if some of the A’s would use that approach to hitting they may be doing a little better this season
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by A'sfaninNC on Jun 2, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two of em!
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by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would keep Springer just for the experience
You need a couple veterans in the bullpen.
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by micdog2001 on Jun 2, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 40 years old and bad at pitching, though.
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by jeepers on Jun 2, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed in principle
Though Daric Barton’s struggles make me think his days as part of the A’s future are in the past… that was haiku or something.
My bring ups would be Doolittle, Pennington, and Patterson. I wouldn’t dump Springer just yet.
by jeffro on Jun 2, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he had a tough year in the big leagues as a 22 year old?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not totally
Because he is sucking in AAA as a 23 year old and the A’s have to other potential first basemen who are not. Look at his numbers this season… 216 PA’s and sub 700 OPS in the minors. Add to that his horrible year last year and Sean Doolittle/Chris Carter…
by jeffro on Jun 2, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doolittle has an .811 OPS in Sac so far this year, and he's 22
Barton was thrown into the big leagues when he was 22, but he had an .827 OPS as a 21 year old in his only full season at AAA.
Doolittle’s age 21 season consisted of great numbers in Stockton and then a .699 OPS in Double A.
Oh, and Barton followed up his horrible April in Sac this year (.149/.274/.209, .192 BABIP) with a pretty stellar May: .277/.390/.436 with a .295 BABIP, cut his K rate in half, and walked more.
For the record, Doolittle’s May was worse than Barton’s, but he only had 31 PAs.
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by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
I still think Barton is toast, but time will tell.
Barton’s failure last season is his alone and to project that onto Doolittle because they are the same age is a bit of a stretch, no?
by jeffro on Jun 2, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fairly simple way to compare prospects is to see what they did at a given age.
Barton is/was more advance than Doolittle, which is why he’s always been a top prospect.
The ideal situation would, IMO, be both of them succeeding in Oakland. Barton at 3B and Doolittle in RF (and Carter at 1B)
(pre-emptive STFU to everybody who says Barton won’t convert to 3B. I know, and I don’t care.)
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it is more like, Barton doesn't have any power.
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by Eastbayjim on Jun 2, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't have HR power.
his SLG in the minors is .444, but his OBP is .400. Nothing wrong with that.
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by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll stick with Barton is so bad at defense at 3B that Mat Gamel looks like a Gold Glover
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough to say given he's played like 20 games there.
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by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 2007 he played 18 games there...
…and made 9 errors. I don’t think I need to see any more.
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right. Doolittle is a better prospect.
Everybody else is wrong.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Now
Hardly, I am open to being wrong and hopeful that I am.
Who is this everybody else that thinks Barton is currently the prospect dujour?
And wasn’t it just you who said the ideal scenario involves Daric Barton being a full time third basemen, despite scouts opinions that the dude can’t play third ever?
And since when does opinion mean anything? Wasn’t Mark McGwire second fiddle to Rob Nelson in scouts minds?
by jeffro on Jun 2, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
With the performance of Giambi, I would almost rather have Barton back playing at first. Sean Doolittle was supoose to challenge Barton for playing time at 1B, but he’s been out since early May for simply being in the Athletics organization (knee tendonitis, I think).
I remember Barton had surgery this offseason, which may be the reason for his incredibly slow start in AAA. But as of late, he has been heating up and I would enjoy seeing him get another chance in the majors if he can continue this recent hot streak. As opposed to having lame duck Crosby or Giambi man first in a lost season, it would be more interesting to allow Barton one more chance to show that he belongs.
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by franks a lot on Jun 2, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize Doolittle was out
Too much work lately to pay attention to Rivercats boxscores… ugh. It would be a great thing Barton refigured it out and Doolittle ended up playing outfield. I am all for it.
by jeffro on Jun 2, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Giambi is hitting home runs.
Barton isn’t likely to hit (m)any of those.
I think Barton should have to play his way into the show. That monster September he had (as a 22-year-old) may have have done him a disservice. It made the case of playing him (as a 22-year-old) in the bigs the entire following year all the more compelling.
Right now, his numbers are dwindling at an alarming rate, especially what power he had. The idea of trading him for Nick Johnson this winter is looking mighty compelling in hindsight. It would have been a far better stopgap than Jason Giambi, but the A’s weren’t yet willing to gamble on Doolittle and Carter, it appears (for which it’s hard to blame them).
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by jeepers on Jun 2, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or gamble that Johnson could stay half for more than 35 minutes
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by grover on Jun 2, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the English you intended,
but I understand your meaning. Johnson is a huge health risk.
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by jeepers on Jun 2, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blogging at work leads to typos
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by grover on Jun 2, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the odd man out is Gonzalez.
At least from what I read this morning…..I forgot to mention that watching Jack Hannahan swing a bat is like one of those bad dreams where the harder you try to run the faster you go nowhere……..just demoralizing as a fan to have to watch him in the lineup. And Davis is just as bad, if not worse.
Crosby at least has been useful playing the utility role, despite all of the crap we give him here.
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by mrod on Jun 2, 2009 7:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hannahan needs never to swing a ML bat again
Sadly, we will be waiting longer for that wish to come true
by Trainman on Jun 2, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
count the number of times that he pulls a ball foul...he rarely if ever does...
i don’t know if that’s a sign of a slow bat or a bad approach…either way, he’s totally ineffective
by inbillywetrust on Jun 2, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he certainly has a slow bat,
he literally can’t hit a major league fastball.
Not that he’s enough of a threat at the plate for opposing teams to worry about him, but I wouldn’t throw him anything but straight heat in his at bats.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
understood but is it bat speed, poor recognition of pitches, a bad approach, bad reaction times?
by inbillywetrust on Jun 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Quite frankly, his talent level as a batter is not MLB caliber.
His defense is passable, which is why he remains employed.
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by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me he has very good pitch recognition. His strike zone
judgement is very good. His reactions must be pretty good to be able to play the hot corner. It looks like a lack of bat speed to me, though I’m not baseball coach. I imagine if someone broke down his swing they would find multiple glaring issues.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hannahan is in there for defense.
We can look at Jack and say, “Yes, well, it is embarrassing that we, as a team, stick a bat in your hand and let you get up there and swing.” But when he’s in the game, when he’s playing third base, he looks like a professional baseball player. He has some redeeming qualities.
That is simply not true with Rajai. He cannot hit. He cannot field. He is quick, but he’s a horrible base runner. He is a wasted roster spot.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
At least Hannahan is a Jack of one trade, while Rajai is the King of nothing (with all due respects to Seals & Crofts).
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by JJ Martin on Jun 2, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mazzaro
I feel like the A’s believe that these guys will develop fastest in the big leagues with veterans around and being fully challenged rather than in AAA with AAAA guys complaining and being negative. If they don’t struggle too much I agree that they will raise up to the level of competition.
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by niallmack on Jun 2, 2009 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New Big 3 vs. Old Big 3
I was wondering what the Newbies had in common with the previous big three?
I guess we could compare Mazzaro to Huddy, Anderson to Mulder, but not Cahill to Zito?
One thing that comes to mind, is when Huddy was called up on that fateful June day in SD he was never were sent back down to AAA. Maybe, just maybe Mazzaro can be like Huddy…minus the injuries of course!
What other comparisons can you make?
by DoomandGloom on Jun 2, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson/Mulder, Cahill/Huddy, Gio/Zito
Mazarro is this mysterious fourth character that comes into play.
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by Blicks on Jun 2, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was Harden
Or Lidle?
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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
long term ramifications on gio/gallagher?
i guess it depends on how legit braden/outman are. remember once some of these pitchers hit their 150-175inn limit, they’ll start resting them. So it isnt horrible to have some depth around. I would say eveland pitched his last games with the A’s. A few weeks ago he blamed some of his struggles on vision problems and delaying lasik surgery until the offseason. Looks like that decision may have sealed his fate. Whatever happens, the current rotation plus gio/gallagher/simmons will probably be their choices for awhile since the other prospects wont be ready anytime soon. These 8 pitchers will make or break their team most likely the next few yrs. Continue to progress there and find ways to improve other areas. .
by Asfan4ever723 on Jun 2, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am interested in how DLS recovers. He should start playing a little later this year.
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by Eastbayjim on Jun 2, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes going to be ready by 2011 at the earliest.
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by designatedforassignment on Jun 2, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gio/Gallagher/Simmons
Depth is a nice problem to have, I guess. I still wonder what exactly Gio has done— other than rightfully call out Geren for being a ponce— to deserve getting jerked around like this. The kid has shown some promise in the few mop-up appearances the A’s have allowed him. He certainly seems to have better command than, say, Cahill. And now he’s taking the backseat to a gentleman who, for all intents and purposes, sounds like Cahill Lite without a breaking ball “out pitch.”
Ah, well. I definitely want Vinnie to do well, if for no other reasons than he represents another addition to the Athletics’ Dirty Jersey squad, and his name gives me free reign to make Doogie Howser references. Still, in a season that has seen way too much Dana Eveland and Edgar Gonzalez, I wonder why Gio can’t catch a break.
by Joey C. on Jun 2, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Cause evry time Gio starts to pitch well and attracting attention...
He goes out and lays a dud, showing poor or worse control and barely making into the 4th
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by grover on Jun 2, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ups and downs with the young rotation were supposed to be a reality of this season, yes?
I’d rather have some ups and downs with Gio than watch Eveland and Gonzalez reliably suck.
Mazzaro getting a win (despite the K/BB ratio) makes this a more difficult argument, but I still say Gio deserved better.
by Joey C. on Jun 3, 2009 3:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anything been announced
about who is getting shipped out to make room for Mazzaro?
by jakebmill on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, Jake.
It was you.
"A few of the guests, who had the misfortune of being too near the windows, were seized and feasted upon at once.""--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on Jun 2, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rajai Davis would survive an atomic blast
So of course he will survive the "n"th opportunity for the A’s to DFA to him.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Jun 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I wouldn't DFA Davis for Mazzaro
With Cust banged up, we only have Cunningham, Holliday, and Sweeney in the OF. Davis is the only backup OF we have. I’d love to DFA him when everyone is healthy, but for now I think we’ll dump a pitcher, either sending down Cameron or DFA-ing Springer (what a pile).
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Denorfia says hi.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
by Blicks on Jun 2, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in other words, DFA Davis and send down a pitcher
Edgar Gonzalez, maybe, to AAA.
and call up Denorfia and Mazarro.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
by Blicks on Jun 2, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, not saying I wouldn't DFA Davis for Denorfia
I’d do that in a heartbeat. I’m just saying I don’t think we’ll DFA Davis for a pitcher. I think we’ll get rid of a pitcher for a pitcher.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was already said that it would be a pitcher who is sent down.
So, g’bye Edgar Gonzalez.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but a spot on the 40 man is needed
someone must go
by jpl on Jun 2, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the transaction section of the a's website has been updated to show that mazzaro has been called up...
but no corresponding name has been removed from the 25 man roster. weird.
by inbillywetrust on Jun 2, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe MLB is taking pity on us, letting us play with 26 men.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
making up for the fact that the FO has been making us play with 22 so often
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why I was asking...
It is a little late for them to have not made a corresponding move. Game starts in 2.5 hours. Maybe they are deciding who to DL next… Springer or Casilla.
by jakebmill on Jun 2, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Springer to DL with bruised vagina
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwidth Exceeded; I couldn't see it
Is it a picture of a vagina?
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I wouldn't do that.
I’ll rehost it later.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jun 2, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giese transferred to 60 day
Kevin Cameron optioned to Sacto
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by closetasfan on Jun 2, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bloody hell, how is Springer still knocking around.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's old?
He probably slept with all the other players’ moms.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jun 2, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the expensive guy.
Or Geren loves him
See: Alan Embree last year.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
by Blicks on Jun 2, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you have a link?
I haven’t been able to find this info anywhere.
by jakebmill on Jun 2, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rajai Davis walks tall in the clubhouse. He's bulletproof.
by OldhamA on Jun 2, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This years DFA
Bad spellers of the world untie.
by A'sfaninNC on Jun 3, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant Desme
Kevin Goldstein at BP mentioned 2007 second-rounder Desme (age 23) has been doing better of late at A- Kane County.
In his last 10 games he is hitting .341 with 3 hrs.
In May he hit .277/.326/.496 with an OPS of .822.
For the season he is at .284/.338/.516 and OPS .854. 9 hrs, 59ks, 13 BB
by apilgrim on Jun 4, 2009 5:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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