My solution for PEDs
by str8tarrow on May 7, 2009 5:41 PM PDT
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It seems to me a 50 game suspension is more like a vacation for some of these players. Sure, they lose 1/3 of their salary but if you still stand to make 18 million what's the real loss? It isn't necessarily the HOF because without the drugs perhaps the numbers don't put them into that conversation. What if MLB took away what every player craves... Free Agency.
First offense: No suspension. Void of your current contract and placed under club control, non arbitration eligible, for two years (or two additional years if not of sufficient service time).
Second offense: 1 calendar year suspension, void of current contract, and placed under club control, non arbitration eligible, for three additional years.
Third offense: Banned for life.
I don't know that this would work but I would feel better about a system like this than the one currently in place.
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My solution for PEDs is vodka
I now have ginormous pectoral muscles and David Crosby’s liver, but otherwise it’s working pretty well.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
hmm, all i got was a chizzled abdomen.
the rest is pretty flabby
"It's like déjà vu all over again." -yogi berra
I would ban someone for two years for their first offense. Then, for their second offense, I would ban them for life. That’s it.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on May 7, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions
That actually seems about right to me.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I would stop testing completely.
or regulate it.
One or the other.
Players cheat. That’s what they do.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 7, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
best post
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
My system:
National League: 1 bad test = banned for life
American League: All the PED’s you can eat, shoot or pop….
I know I’m in the minority, but I like home runs and I don’t care if the players pop greenies or shoot ’roids.
REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, Crosby's not gonna improve this year and he'll be released by June... Sorry, kids...
same
it’s their body if they end up abusing drugs
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Goddamit, I got pretty worked up about this earlier and wrote a stupid article
which yeah, is in agreement with you. basically.
seriously. If they’re serious, wicked. if they’re not, let’s stop ragging on sports that are, that, yknow, catch people.
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 8, 2009 1:35 AM PDT reply actions
AIE (I never know how to shorten your moniker) made that comment
in the Ramirez thread, that it’s only 1/3 or their yearly earnings. It simply doesn’t hold water – if they didn’t care about that money ($7.7m was the Ramirez figure) then they wouldn’t hold out for that kind of money! Losing that income is a big deterrent for them.
That said it is far too lenient. Either stop testing altogether, or ban them for two years if they test positive.
My problem
with the testing is that it only catches the stupid and lazy. There are ways to fool the testers Rickey Waters said that when he got caught he screwed up. He’d been able to fool the tests for years. Heck the 2003/2004 Carolina Panthers had a bunch of ’roiders on the team (a doctor associated with many on the team got caught perscribing steroids to players and none of the players ever tested positive).
If penalties are going to be as punitive as folks here suggest then the testing has to get way way way better. The only way is for weekly tests so a baseline can be built up of what the athlete’s body chemicals normally look like and then test against that baseline. This will of course require that players possibly start getting tested weekly in high school or college (or for up to a year before they enter the pros) so a baseline can be established. Who would submit to this sort of thing and who would pay for it?
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