Is Anyone Still Watching?
by baseballgirl on May 30, 2009 7:57 PM PDT
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The first inning should tell you all you need to know about the A's offense. It is nearly impossible to receive three walks and follow that up with a double and manage to only score a single run, but that's just what the A's did. And what was a promising start to the game was immediately snuffed out.
Luckily, it wouldn't matter. Here's the A's pitching line:
Anderson: 4 IP, 8H, 6ER
Cameron: 2 IP, 4H, 4ER
Springer: 1 IP, 3H, 3ER
Bailey: 1 IP, 2H, 1ER
I have nothing else to say. When your pitching allows 14 runs, and your offense manages five hits, you aren't going to win.
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whew....
better days to come A’s fans, of course it can’t get much worse can it?
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 30, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you need to not be rude
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 30, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just meant, please, don't invite the gods by saying "it can't get much worse, can it?"
by el campysino on May 30, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fine
don’t know anything about gods, but seeing all of the unbridled pessimism this team’s horrible play is bringing to AN I figured there would be nothing wrong with starting this thread with a little hopeless optimism.
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 30, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok ok
agreed
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 30, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And another AN happy moment has blossomed
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 30, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss PT.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My suggestion, then, would be to email him privately and tell him so
He’s welcome back anytime.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 31, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tell you what though...
I don’t blame him…
I wouldn’t come back, either, if I were in his shoes.
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's his choice
The same as it is of anyone who is either temporarily banned or chooses to leave on their own.
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
by Flashfire on May 31, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To each his own. In his shoes I'd come back,
and at least see how it went.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 31, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just meant I wanted someone to argue, not get along.
Sorry if I hit a sore spot.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 31, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually not a sore spot, in that it really is each user's
choice whether or not to be part of this community. I just want folks to know that I/we would welcome PT’s return, with the hope that everyone learned something and came out the better for it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 31, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but can we fight about it?
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 31, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
{loads rifle}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 31, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
the earlier part of this year has really changed your fighting style.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 31, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this was the case last year...
But here we are.
by cyke17 on May 30, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi everyone!
Have a good evening…
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After this debacle...
I sure as heck hope not.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
fire geren now?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 30, 2009 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not tonight
The pitching coach needs to be fired. Fire Curt Young!
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curt Young's alright...
Cameron stinks. Springer’s finished.
Anderson is still a kid and he should still be in AAA anyway, so I can’t get too mad at him.
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me, Anderson has been one of the few bright spots
He got lit up tonight legitimately, but it happens – hitter’s park, hitting team, didn’t have his good fastball for whatever reason. He’s going to be very, very good (if he stays healthy).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 30, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take the blinders off
Anderson has been lit up a few times but will get a pass…….fucking joke.
by granja on May 30, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am only joking
Curt Young is a great pitching coach.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Just wow.
I am elated that I didn’t get to watch this game.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
by pam5981 on May 30, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Saw UP
nice props to some oakland fixtures.
I swear the start of the movie had the original Grand Lake Theater, before it was subdivided.
by MobiusKlein on May 30, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huge A's Fans at Pixar...
In the beginning of Monsters there is even a A’s hat on the wall.
by cyke17 on May 30, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
McGwire belongs in the Hall so put him there
by streetisclosedin08 on May 30, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
"I feel like I hit better when I'm playing the field...just feel more like a baseball player." —Jack Cust (or Derek Jeter for that matter)
by PortlandPachyderm on May 30, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone ever see Raging Bull?
I’ve seen almost every classic film that was rated highly by AFI and, boy, there are some bad ones. Somehow I missed this movie and am watching it tonight.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Which are the ones you thought were bad?
by el campysino on May 30, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I loved most of them so that came out wrong
but On The Waterfront with Brando was one that disappointed.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Annie Hall
I am not a lover or hater of Woody but I didn’t like it either.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Annie Hall is a great one....
mainly for Walkens small role and the great Tony Roberts!
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta say
I love Annie Hall it’s Woody’s best movie.
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could sum up this entire oakland A's season
by just one line from this film.
“I forgot my mantra”
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, "I used to be a heroine addict. Now I'm a methadone addict."
I switched Cabreras when your back was turned!
by Elvez on May 30, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, big guy in Chicago, Bad temper...
He’s been suspended six games, right?
"I feel like I hit better when I'm playing the field...just feel more like a baseball player." —Jack Cust (or Derek Jeter for that matter)
by PortlandPachyderm on May 30, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fire the players......awful, just awful
there’s about 5 MLB players on this team – the rest should be playing independent league baseball
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 30, 2009 8:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And those five players aren't playing very well either.
"I feel like I hit better when I'm playing the field...just feel more like a baseball player." —Jack Cust (or Derek Jeter for that matter)
by PortlandPachyderm on May 30, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this keeps up Part 2
I’ve already gone from sipping on my MGD to trippin on LSD but maybe I’ll have to switch to spraying myself with DDT.
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 8:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 30, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about PCP?
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on May 30, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if
the DDT doesn’t kill me that’s next
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmm.
PCP….
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I picked a good night to only watch a couple innings.....
turned it off when it was 4-1, just looked to see the final score. Guess I didn’t miss much on the A’s side….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on May 30, 2009 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that was the final score
ohhhh, there was dust on my monitor.
by Future Ed on May 30, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I picked the wrong night to stop sniffing glue
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Please don't call me Shirely
Suzanne is okay, but never shirley.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sniffing Glue is the American dream
You’re failing America by stopping.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 31, 2009 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm thinking the eleven hours of forced labor that I just finished,
as my asshat of a brother decided to move his 2,100 sq. ft. house with a Nissan truck, was preferable to viewing this. Thanks, Ben.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He sounds like a great guy
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 30, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you need to post photos..
Where did he move it from/to? I’ve always thought it was cool to see a house being moved, what a process..
Was he thinking of moving it to Fremont or the Coliseum parking lot or somewhere near Jack London? is your brother named Lou?
Hi ho.
by danh on May 30, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Ben.
That’s why I thanked Ben.
And you and he share a common trait.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to say to the people and to the moneyed elites...
that until the A’s win five games in a row, get out of last place, or fire Bob Geren, whichever comes first, I will not attend any games, buy any licensed products, or any products of any sponsor who sponsors Athletics baseball on any medium. I will seriously consider ceasing to wear my Athletics gear, although this would involve having to buy and or wash other shirts, so maybe my lazy ass will renege on that last part…
Long story short…
No wins for me, no cash for you…
No new manager for me, no soup for you…
That is all.
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've already negotiated this with myself
Stages of grief, you know…
I’ve decided to only wear A’s gear that features players that are no longer on the team. I’m currently wearing my Swisher jersey.
by coffee roaster on May 30, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't
stop loving the A’s if I wanted to, besides if I can put up with the Raiders I can handle anything.
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
think of them as your family on a bad day
you love them, but you don’t want to see a whole lot of them right now
by asfansince1989 on May 30, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The A's are
a dysfunctional family but ya you gotta love em’
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are overreacting just a bit.
Yes they suck, no ones going to deny you that (well besides the lame duck skipper). But theres no need to go crazy. Just come here and vent.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I think I like AN more than the A's themselves...
…even without Monkeyball…
so I’m not going anywhere…
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh...
agrd.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya...
…but I am still going to take the A’s to the promise land in MLB: The Show ’09! Petit is a doubles machine!
by Coach Cleats on May 30, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win one for the Foreign Talent, alright...
(that’s me)
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the only joy I get that's connected to the A's right now.
by Coach Cleats on May 30, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right now, I'm leading a made-up version of the Stockton Ports,
with all my friends as the roster.
Of course, we’re 77-0 at the moment. I’ll turn the damn machine off if we’re losing in the 9th and play it again!
I wish the real A’s could do that!
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AS THE A'S TRY TO AVOID A SWEEP...
Too much…too much…
by ElQuesoCapitan on May 30, 2009 8:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
…tired of the terms “salvage” and “avoid a sweep” after every second game of a series.
by Coach Cleats on May 30, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
Is the clock ticking? I give it until Monday, and drop the hammer, because you gotta do something if you’re gonna have a shred of credibility left as an organization, or demonstrate that you even want one.
If this manager keeps his job for 72 more hours, and if the team continues to retain players that are so out of it that even a 3 year old child could see that there need to be revisions made, then Billy Beane or David Forst or Tyrone Biggums or whatever crackhead is calling the shots is basically saying to all of us that he doesn’t want us and that their intention as an organization is to tank the product so profoundly that they can then just slip away to wherever in their twisted, phony-wealth-and-power addled brains they think is gonna want a team in this kind of pathetically sad condition at every single layer of the onion from the product on the field to the advertising to the venue to the farm system to the training staff and back again.
If this continues they are making a statement that they can do whatever they want, that Selig is perfectly & exquisitely in on it, and at that point there needs to be a movement for justice to sweep them out of town and the fuck back to San Diego or San Jose or wherever they came from, because they are doing this right to all of our faces and we need to decide if we’re gonna take it.
The future of the team in Oakland, San Jose, the Moon, or anywhere else may hang in the balance if this keeps going, and if they can’t move they may contract the franchise if the alleged management isn’t even going to make a pretense of an effort to do anything but crash and burn the whole thing like this.
It hurts profoundly to say this, and a part of me cannot believe it has come to this, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say that this franchise is a disgrace to the sport now.
.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This team used to be run with courage...
This team used to be run with character…
This team used to be run by this guy…
You all know the answer.
It’s time to RE-HIRE HAMMER!
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean this guy...
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
President Burrell?
What’s he got to do with this?
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanley Burrell
is the best Assistant GM this club has ever had.
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, without the injuries, they are a .400 team
with, well, let’s all practice new math.
by MobiusKlein on May 30, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
without the injuries and with a smarter manager
they might be a .520 team.
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
without the brain and body I was born with and still have
I might be a Supermodel by now.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
your assuming
That Bud Selig is awake and knows that there’s a team in Oakland
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud Selig is wide awake
and in collusion with his former fraternity brother, whom he has know since he was 19 years old, to destroy this franchise if they cannot get their way and move it. What they don’t seem to realize is that the economy is such that no one in SJ or really anywhere else is gonna part with the resources to build a dream facility for a franchise that is by all accounts a complete shambles from top to bottom; maybe in bull market times but not nowadays. Notice in the Fremont thing that Cisco Field wasn’t really about the A’s, it was about pulling Cisco Systems out of the shitter and was pretty much slated to be their Fantasy Computer Device Fun Palace with the Athletics as sort of the house band to draw unsuspecting people in to be persuaded to perform their holy rituals of Consumption, the real religion of Earth..
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
further, given his complicity
in the owner-collusion salary issue and his allowing 94% of the players in the game to be juiced to the gills so the sport would make short-term money, I think it safe to say that if Kenesaw Mountain Landis were alive today, Bud Selig wouldn’t be.
And that’s now, my pretties. Wait patiently for 10-15 years from now, when all these players we have watched are all dead or dying from what they did to their bodies, when the Alzado-Caminiti body count starts to rise and it was all on this soulless bastard’s watch.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Emperor
This franchise is a disgrace to the sport.
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You make good points
Although I don’t see how moving an unwatchable team to San Jose would necessarily cause a lot of excitement in the new venue. And while contracting the franchise would entail a significant payoff to the ownership group – including Beane – I’m not sure why that option would interest them, either. An MLB franchise is a valuable thing in the long term.
The advertising IS terrible. Notice how they’ve stopped running the inane, “We’re bringing the band back together” ad (the “band” is as old as Dylan, and not as good) as well as that beef—-brawn crap. Having a lineup full of .200 hitters sort of invalidates the advertising for the season.
by coffee roaster on May 30, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
As does hanging a three-story poster of a player that will likely never play again, and whose recent story is fraught with injury and sadness, in your venue. When I look at the ads, which were once upon a time so good that you would wait for them to come on TV between innings, I see something done so unprofessionally that such a thing would simply not be tolerated in any organization with a modicum of credibility.
If it were just the 14-1 losses day after day, I’d be cool, the pitchers are young, some of these guys are old, the foul territory’s killing Holliday and he probably played this weekend in Texas wishing he could hit again in a park where the ball carries, well then I’d be unhappy but philosophical.
But when you add everything else, the perennial injury issues that get worse and worse year after year, the unintentionally self-mocking ads and venue signage, the weak hitting in the farm system when you’d think they’d be after developing a future 3B or CF (Jemile Weeks is nice, but the Mayan calendar will likely end before he ever makes the bigs), the ridiculous carpetbaggery going on around moving the team to nobody-knows-where, then it begins to take an ugly, ugly shape and like you said, NO city is gonna want a team in this condition, with a philosophy that says you can only swing once a night and the rest of the time you’re actively trying to walk… after the initial novelty of the place wears off, they’ll have 12 people a night just like now.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
re:contraction
never, ever forget that that’s where all this shit started, years ago when Selig came out here, came to the Coliseum and put it in Schott’s head that it was move or be contracted; I remember reading about that meeting and seeing it on TV, where he was at the game and they were talking about it on the KCBS radio sportscast that night, that the A’s (and the Minnesota Twins as well, at that point) were playing in facilities that were unacceptable and that it could not continue.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fired up
Well emperor I know your fired up about this and I agree with some of what you say as I’ve railed against Lew Wolff and John Fisher on more than one occasion but I guess I just can’t believe that the A’s are losing on purpose. Maybe I’m naive but I just think a lot of the moves Beane has tried the last couple of years haven’t worked out yet and the team stinks.
I still have hope but and hey it could be worse we could all be Pirates fans, I mean at least the A’s have been mostly competitive over the last decade.
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not losing on purpose, per se
But allowing losing and mismanagement as an option, so the malaise looks like natural causes and consent can be manufactured in the form of the apathy needed for them to have the justification they think they need to move away and not be vilified for all times in the East Bay for it.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on May 30, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just heard Buan
saying the blame has to be shared with Geren and the front office.
Most honest thing he has ever said.
Front office = Billy Beane which = DGAF (Doesn’t give a fuck)
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, I'm subject to selective bias or something...
but to me, it seems like 90% of your posts are hyperbolic, erroneous assertions like:
Front office = Billy Beane which = DGAF (Doesn’t give a fuck)
which really have no basis or evidence and adds nothing constructive to the discussion at all. So honest question: are comments like these all you’re capable of producing? If so, then I’ll gladly start ignoring everything you post.
by Tripp on May 30, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds more like 90% of this entire thread to me
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
If he gives a damn then why is he not firing Geren and trying to make the team better. I think it is showing a level of incompetence to just sit there and watch this team implode without there being consequences. Yeah, I get negative because I want this team to win and I don’t think that Beane is attempting to help this team in the interim.
This really is a bad team and I have a hard time believing that he cannot make a few moves and a firing or two to make this team at least watchable.
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What moves should he make?
Who should he bring in?
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by Flashfire on May 30, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally...
I think this team would look much better in Doubly.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DFA Rajai Davis and Hannahan
I don’t follow the minors but there has to be a couple of players down there than have to be better than these 2.
Put Springer on DL
Fire Geren. I would be happy with this alone but I do not see the point of having bad players on the team. Hannahan has killed this team for at least the chance of a couple of wins in the last week with his performace at the plate. Everyone loves his defense but it is like having a 7 man lineup with him and Davis in there.
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really know how those things will make the team that much better
Firing Geren I’m with. Getting rid of Davis I’m with. Hannahan’s only up here because others better than him can’t stay healthy. Springer has nothing at this point. But right now I don’t have any faith in their replacements doing that much better, certainly not to the point that the team will start winning games. Those players aren’t the reason the team is bad. You’re suggesting doing something about three of the worst on the team when others much better than them need to play better.
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by Flashfire on May 30, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither Hannahan nor Davis started tonight's game.
There are no centerfielders on the 40 man roster besides Davis and Sweeney. Petit should give you an idea of what’s there to take over for Hannahan.
But yeah, I wouldn’t mind putting Springer on the DL and giving Gray/Schroder/Kilby a better look.
by scromulus on May 30, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine that Billy will be drafting a 3rd baseman with his 1st pick
or trading Holliday and some good pitching for a good 3rd baseman.
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no 3B who are going to fall to the A's in the first round.
Green will go in the top ten, and Borchering – the next best thing – would be a total over draft.
The point is, most of the ideas you propose either involve acquisitions/minor leaguers that aren’t gonna happen/don’t exist, or they involve firing people, which could actually make the team worse. If it was as easy as not “having bad players on the team” the A’s would have done something.
by scromulus on May 30, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are making three baseless assumptions.
One, that Beane doesn’t care about making the team better.
Two, that firing Bob Geren will make a difference. It won’t. This team has more pertinent problems than the manager.
Three, that acquiring better players (“making the team better”) is quick and easy to do.
by Tripp on May 30, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just put up a new post that explains my wish list,
given that most “solutions” won’t actually make a difference in the now.
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by Nico on May 30, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good post
I am as much a whiner as the next grandstander, but I’m not going to write “stuff” as if the answer to the problems are easily, obviously done. Trainman, you’ve said what you feel a few times, and we all understand your POV. But as Tripp points out, the evidence that certain actions will beget certain effects just isn’t there.
Sure, jump up and down, again and again, but the pie is burnt, it can’t be eaten, and getting more and more upset won’t fix it.
Me, myself, I’ve simply stopped watching games, and do not plan to attend further games in 2009. Not much more to it. Garciaparra’s hurt, Duchscherer may be out all year, Giambi just cannot produce, and Holliday does not fit this lineup. Pitching is too erratic, too young.
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." Vin Scully
by One won lost won on May 30, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, A's brass...
that’s another former paying customer you’re not making money off of anymore.
Anyone else?
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say, you're going a bit overboard sometimes with the negativity and assumptions
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by Flashfire on May 30, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a's are like a friend on drugs
you love em, but they may not learn until you walk away
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
by 9Custs on May 30, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
um...
they may not learn until you walk away, but…
you might not learn, either, until you walk away…
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm the friend on drugs?
Makes sense.
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by Nico on May 30, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and were having an intervention tmrw
I’m bringing the beer…
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on May 30, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great - careful carrying them to my front door
There’s 12 steps.
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by Nico on May 30, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's the 13th that gets you into trouble.
"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains"--Pride and Prejudice And Zombies
by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe better if they move out of the bay area
That way at least I can watch them live on MLB TV instead of being blankout delayed. Given the current direction of the team I’m not sure if I’ll ever care to go to a game or pay $80 for Camcast digital to watch them.
by asfansince1989 on May 30, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any way we can fire...
…Lew Wolfe?
Interleague Play: Celebrating Thirteen Seasons of Suck
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 30, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If I were him I'd be looking for someone's head to roll RIGHT NOW
A friend of mine raised $750K for a school in a month in April and is still laid off. With the way the team is performing, I think the question would be who shouldn’t get fired?
by asfansince1989 on May 30, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who else saw Matt Holliday playing catch with the Rangers’ ball girl in between innings? I know they showed it at least once on Comcast SportsNet California.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on May 30, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was funny.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on May 30, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and she was HOT
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
by travdog6 on May 31, 2009 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SlegnA leading 3-0 now
Hopefully Fuentes can meltdown
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lopez BOMB
Tie game.
Makes this day a little bit better.
by ElQuesoCapitan on May 30, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Jose Lopez hits 3 run bomb off slegnA closer
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - how the heck did they get Russ Springer to Anaheim so fast?
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by Nico on May 30, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
true LOL
inspired …
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." Vin Scully
by One won lost won on May 30, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOL'd.
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 31, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least the Rockhounds had a good night.
They rallied back from a 9-2 deficit to beat Tulsa in 16 innings. Donaldson had four hits, including a HR and two doubles.
by scromulus on May 30, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LA v. Seattle, extra innings.
Anyone else here watching?
by el campysino on May 30, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Runner at 3rd now with 1 out
If they have any brains they will walk Ichiro
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle takes lead
with a sac fly. Runners just makes it. Looked like he may have left 3rd early but they appealed and they said not
by Trainman on May 30, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If our dreams come true
who replaces Geren in the big boys seat?
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
QOTD -- that is,
Question Of The Day.
by el campysino on May 30, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was supposed to be a reply to sirbed’s question: suppose Geren is fired — who is put in his place?
by el campysino on May 30, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Billy Beane?
He does after all want someone who will manage his way. Who better than him?
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by pookeyguru on May 31, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would be such a shitty manager...
and I’m his biggest fan, too…
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I attended the game
It was the first A’s game I ever got to see live. Im not kidding, im so sad its funny
Clear its radiance shine...
by ATarHeel on May 30, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, now we can start pointing to the people who caused this!!
so, YOU are responsible for this 14-1 loss…
…we’ve been WATCHING YOU!!
gosh, what a tough episode to endure. My sympathies, esp. since I’ve seen some great A’s playoff victories over the years, yet you get this slop!
"Losing feels worse than winning feels good." Vin Scully
by One won lost won on May 30, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was behind the A's dugout
and Holliday was more concerned of which fan was going to get the next baseball instead of when is he hitting his next HR
Clear its radiance shine...
by ATarHeel on May 30, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we all know already how little Holliday looks like he cares.
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by Flashfire on May 30, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's
just his style, I can’t fault Holliday too much after the awful April he’s been okay.
by sirbed on May 30, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would kinda stink
to be preternaturally talented at baseball, yet not to have a lot of passion for it.
I would rather be Bobby Scales, hustling and hoping through a decade in the minors, just praying for a cup of coffee, than be stuck being Matt Holliday or Adam Dunn, who can hit the ball a ton, but would rather be doing something else entirely.
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, yes, the "Adam Dunn doesn't care about baseball" thing
Especially after he basically lobbied to play for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic and talked so highly of the experience, loving being a part of it. Definitely sounds like someone who’s not all that interested in baseball.
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by Flashfire on May 31, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And remember, he was one of the people who said how embarrassing it was...
…when they were victims of the mercy rule against Puerto Rico.
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by Flashfire on May 31, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To answer your question posed as a headline...
No. And it’s been a couple of weeks at this point. It’s like Saved by the Bell reruns at this point. You’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all.
by Eggman on May 30, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Basically,
I’m waiting for Mr. Belding to call the troops together and make everything better.
In a side note, was it 2005 that the team was 17-32 going into Memorial Day (or soon thereafter) only to go on a tear? Any chance this team can do that? I mean, we’re 18-29… a little better than that pace.
by Eggman on May 30, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
up until Casilla came into game 1 yesterday, there might have been a chance...
…but I sure don’t see it now, 3 losses and 3 more games out of 1st later
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 30, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Position Player Should Have Pitched The 8th
Why did our best reliever in an overtaxed bullpen pitch an inning in this meaningless game? Geren should have had a position player pitch the 8th.
by muscatel on May 30, 2009 10:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Springer should have pitched the 8th...
Springer = lamb
13-1 = slaughter
DOUBLE REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, nobody's gonna improve this year and everyone will be released by June except for Suzuki and Cust... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 31, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i missed out on the fun
internet and cable not hooked up – so I get into a wireless cafe this morning and see the 14 – 1 fiasco. good freaking grief.
alaska A residing in Idaho.
by ak_A on May 31, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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