DLD (5/12/09): Chavez Has Bulging Disk
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 5:45 PM PDT
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- Already on the DL for an elbow problem, he’s now headed to Phoenix to have his back checked after an MRI yesterday showed a bulging disk.
- He’ll be examined by Phoenix-based specialist Dr. Rob Blackaby.
- Chavez was targeting Friday for a possible return, but now Geren said his return will be pushed back “a couple of weeks for sure.”
Looks like Crosby/Hannahan at 3B for the foreseeable future. The article mentioned Garciaparra is possible for activation on Friday at Detroit. Chavez' career seems about over. He probably should take the rest of the year off and give it one last try in his walk year.
The link also provided tonight's lineups:
A’s: Cabrera SS; Suzuki C; Giambi 1B; Holliday LF; Cust DH; Sweeney CF; Kennedy 2B; Buck RF; Hannahan 3BRoyals: Crisp CF; DeJesus LF; Teahen 3B; Guillen RF; Butler 1B; Jacobs DH; Callaspo 2B; Buck C; Aviles SS
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Shocking. Totally completely shocking.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 12, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this inside joke HAHA
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on May 13, 2009 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 12, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chavez is done, he just needs to retire...
The A’s need to quit pretending that Chavez will ever be healthy again. They just seem to keep fooling themsleves into believeing that he will be back as a full time player.
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on May 12, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The story also mentioned the A's holding a players-only meeting, too
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on May 12, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
assuming Giambi.......... or Chavez drove a bus on the field to recreate past glory days
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cabrera organized it
The Not-So-Casual Fan
by rktse on May 13, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thye're not fooling themselves...
there’s not much they can do besides wait. He’s still going to collect the $20 + million still owed to him. They do however need to start looking for the 3B of the future. Free tip for the A’s – he’s currently not in your system.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes me wonder though...
Of course Chavez is going to get his money, but if the disc problem ends his career, won’t the A’s be able to recoup some of their loss via insurance?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 12, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 12, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he retires they are not obligated to pay the rest
by OaklandSi on May 13, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware of that...
but I don’t expect that Chavez will walk away from several million dollars. However, clubs routinely insure their high dollar players, but I’m unsure how it works. I imagine that a Dr. would have to certify that Chavez can no longer play in order for the A’s to cash in on their policy.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 13, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you know of any examples where a club has used this
to get out of a long term contract?
by OaklandSi on May 13, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was put quite that way,
but I seem to recall players retiring because they could no longer play. I think Jeff Bagwell had the same issue with the Astro’s a few years ago. There was some sort of insurance fight over the remainder of his contract.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 13, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert Belle
I'm not a big wine guy... Where do you grow the BEER?
by str8tarrow on May 13, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
big time payout for Belle
good example
"if you think that was a clear answer, you weren’t paying close enough attention." Larry Summers on Freddy/Fanny within the current economic crisis
by One won lost won on May 13, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The insurance does not get the team out of the contract.
The player is still paid as normal, but the insurance company pays the club for the loss of the player’s services. How much they get and what is needed to trigger a claim depends on the policy.
This is fairly standard procedure, but it’s not public information like the actual contracts, so we rarely see it. It only becomes public in special cases, and even then we don’t usually see the details. It’s generally not in any team’s interest to discuss this openly because in some high-profile cases it will look like they have an interest in a player having a career-ending injury, which is bad publicity.
The Bagwell case was special because the term of the policy was set to expire some time in the middle of spring training. The Astros wanted Bagwell to come to camp early so they could establish the insurance claim before the policy ran out, but Bagwell wanted to wait a few more weeks. After some ugly publicity, Bagwell got his way, the team filed the claim anyway, and the lawyers settled it out of court. Details were not made public, of course.
In the case of Chavez, he gets paid for his full contract regardless. Depending on the nature of what ends his career and how, the A’s may or may not get partial reimbursement from their insurance company. But we don’t know the terms of the policy and it’s unlikely we ever will. It doesn’t show on any of the records that the public gets to see. Possibly Blez could ask Beane, Wolfe, or Crowley about it. Maybe they’ll answer; maybe they won’t.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on May 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
RE: if he retires they are not obligated to pay the rest
This is why there’s no chance at all he’s going to retire. The A’s might consider the virtue of making him an $11MM bench player, though.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on May 13, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not healthy enough to be a bench player.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 13, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
The A’s might consider the virtue of making him an $11MM bench player, though.
Twice the player as Crosby, therfore twice the compensation…seems reasonable enough. Oh, but then there’s the eighth the playing time issue.
by LowcountryJoe on May 13, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I approve this message
It’s not Chavvy’s self, and with so much money at stake the A’s have little choice but to see if the guy can ever get back into the game until his contract runs out. Obviously, they don’t exercise the option, but that comes further down the line.
A reliable 3B option would be just super.
I just remembered I love Eric Chavez.
by Joey C. on May 12, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is this Chavez you guys talk about?
Does he play baseball?
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on May 12, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's the bullpen catcher's brother.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 12, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that guy. LOL!
I could prove God statistically. Take the human body alone - the chances that all the functions of an individual would just happen is a statistical monstrosity.
~George Gallup
by UncleLeo on May 13, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one word - cyrogenics
alaska A residing in colorado. (soon in Idaho)
by ak_A on May 12, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
spelled correctly this time - cryogenics, a key froze on me.
alaska A residing in colorado. (soon in Idaho)
by ak_A on May 12, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
spelings' ovverrated
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one word: cryonics
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on May 12, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the stuff they shot into Woolverine in the last X-men movie
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Guzman...who was in our system...Good one A's
.347/.364/.573 in 31 games for the GIANTS….God help us
by ryanmoser on May 12, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is that, like 1 walk in 80 ABs or something?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on May 12, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares about his walks?
its the numbers that count, right? admittedly, I dont know diddly about this Guzman guy, but I’m thinking I would be a better 3rd baseman than anyone the A’s have at this point, despite my numbers at the MLB level.
tdwclark
by tdwclark on May 12, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are very few guys talented enough to be good hitters if they swing at absolutely everything
Someone like Vlad is an example. But those guys usually aren’t minor-league FA’s at the age of 25 or 26.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on May 12, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
guzman couldn't catch the swine flu (cold)...
playing 1B in AAA
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still annoyed that they let him get away
before giving him a shot
by OaklandSi on May 12, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wolverine?
Define "succeed." --Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on May 13, 2009 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the A's could get some help from "biohackers"
Phil Holtzman, a college student and part-time DJ at dance parties in Berkeley, Calif., is growing viruses in his attic that he thinks could be useful in medicine someday. Using pipettes and other equipment borrowed from his community college, he extracts viruses called bacteriophage from sewage and grows them in petri dishes.
But wait, there’s more:
He collects partly treated sewage water from a network of underground tunnels in the Berkeley area, jumping a chain-link fence to get to the source
Don’t you think a guy with that kind of moxie could come up with some PEG to save us?
by Englishmajor on May 12, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, but maybe he could
combine what he’s got with what the rats at Angel Stadium have and create a supervirus
REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, Crosby's not gonna improve this year and he'll be released by June... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 13, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DISH Network to carry A's games
DISH Network spokesperson who said that they have come to an agreement with Comcast SportsNet to carry the remainder of the A’s broadcasts this season…. but the A’s haven’t heard that.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on May 12, 2009 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the guy is a f***ing joke.
seriously, I love/loved the guy, but how many friggin injuries can one player have in a career?
and I will say again that it points to the most glaring hole in this club’s player development/philosophy/whatever: the players that come under the A’s tutelage are not only injury-prone, they are injury-prone/injury riddled because of the organization’s refusal to look at the problem with any intention of admitting that it’s so.
There is no way a professional outfit can expect to operate on any competitive level with all of the physical ailments that arise throughout the talent pool. Its liking putting on an acting performance with actors who cannot memorize lines, or who cannot speak: the thing is unsuccessful before it begins. Time for change…either in management or otherwise.
tdwclark
by tdwclark on May 12, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The real head scratcher for me is the fact he never plays...
but continues to chalk up injuries. Honestly this guy is a walking disaster. I’m 100% certain he could not push carts at Home Depot or deliver packages for FedEx without serious work mans comp claims. Honestly he doesn’t even have to jog to the outfield, I mean come on it’s baseball. I can’t think of a game more out of shape middle aged drunks can perform without injury risk. Bowling? Nah that’s probably a little harder on the body.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on May 12, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curling.
I was going to buy a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking, and then I thought: "What the hell good would that do?"
by Jackson23 on May 13, 2009 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know
that most curling injuries are smoking related?
REVISED- The magical goblins that live in the Reverend Billy Lard's shower just told him that actually, Crosby's not gonna improve this year and he'll be released by June... Sorry, kids...
by Gaijin_Suketto on May 13, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't argue with the fact that he
seems to injure himself while not even playing, but baseball is an exceedingly hard sport on the body. The sudden bursts of speed, the hard slides, the bruises and contusions from being hit by the ball, all this stuff adds up. Players rarely have days off in which to recuperate, resulting in mild injuries accumulating to the point of absurdity.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 13, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no crying in shipping.
I could prove God statistically. Take the human body alone - the chances that all the functions of an individual would just happen is a statistical monstrosity.
~George Gallup
by UncleLeo on May 13, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be a positive IF IF IF IF IF IF IF
it causes the A’s to get their collective head out of the sand and ACQUIRE A 3BMAN who can play there for the next few years.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on May 12, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude... it's 6:40
WHERE DA GAMETHREAD AT???
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 12, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third Base
Is tragically thin throughout the system. Cardenas looks like the best of the bunch—but who knows? Not us. And apparently not Billy. (I was just thinking about inserting an example of poor player projection and flashed on Barton/Pennington/C Gon/Buck/Hannahan/Crosby/Powell/Herrera/Robnett/Putnam and many more all at once…)
Is it possible that the A’s have more developmental failures than any other team? More misreads of potential or career continuation (Giambi/Holliday/Durham/Kendall/Kennedy/Piazza/Todd Walker/M. Sweeney/Chavez) than any other team? Is it because they give more opportunities to youngsters and trade for more over-the-hillers?
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. Billy Martin
by Steve in Napa on May 12, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with some of your premise
Giambi and Holliday have yet to play a full season. Kendall played well enough for the A’s both in 2005 and 2006 and, in a brilliant managerial move, was exchanged for Jerry Blevins after he (Kendall) fell completely off a cliff. Piazza and Old Sweeney were calculated, low-cost risks that didn’t pay off, the flipside of which is 2006 Frank Thomas. Todd Walker was a stopgap solution. I don’t think these signings are necessarily indicative of misreads of potential.
Hard to argue with the development hiccups of some of the younger guys you mentioned. And I dig the Firefly icon.
I just remembered I love Eric Chavez.
by Joey C. on May 12, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any time I feel down about lack of talent, bad moves, ect.
I think of Pittsburgh and and it makes me happy to be an A’s fan again.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
by GoA's on May 13, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say I saw this coming
Oh, wait. I can.
At this point I just hope Chavez can retire somewhat healthy. Maybe for Halloween he can go as this sometime:
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
by Flashfire on May 12, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What's Chavy going to do if he comes back....bleed on 'em?
I was going to buy a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking, and then I thought: "What the hell good would that do?"
by Jackson23 on May 13, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bite there bloody ankles
I love MPHG!
a ground rule double followed by three unproductive outs, sounds like my sex life - dayzd toe
by adragon on May 13, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bleed?
Impossible; it’s widely understood that Chavez lacks heart.
by LowcountryJoe on May 13, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we already make all the bulging disk jokes about Loaiza a few years back?
Oh, Chavvy. You’re still probably my favorite Athletic, but…dammit.
by danmerqury on May 12, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey LB!
You never said who your advisor was. Based on the comment “armed and ready to do Satan’s work”, I’m going to go with Bob Wald. Yes? No?
by colin on May 12, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, I'm not physics.
I’m not nearly that bright. But it does shed some light on your brain.
Define "succeed." --Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on May 13, 2009 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno...
I’ve seen a few brains with light being shed on them. Damned if I can figure out how they work though. None of them seem to work particularly well afterwards.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 13, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doctor K is your physics guy (Phd)
He knows about cryo, cyro, …cold really really cold stuff
"if you think that was a clear answer, you weren’t paying close enough attention." Larry Summers on Freddy/Fanny within the current economic crisis
by One won lost won on May 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is greenstaroakland still around?
I seem to recall that he/she was a physicist too.
by colin on May 14, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope Garciaparra makes it back for Detroit.
I fly in to Detroit Saturday morning then drive back there later that evening for sat nights game. So any predictions how I will be treated wearing all my A’s stuff?
by The Golden One on May 12, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Welp
I’ve been to many an A’s game in Cleveland and have been treated decently. Nothing more than the usual “Oakland sucks!!” jeer from some jackass or two. The people there were generally nice. Detroit may be a different story though. I dunno.
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin
by bluelightrain84 on May 12, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, you should be fine.
The only place I’d really be a little weird about it is Boston, and I’ve heard okay things even from there.
Define "succeed." --Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on May 12, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wore A's stuff for a game last year in Fenway
and didnt hear one negative comment. I’m sure different with Yankees stuff on, but they dont care much about the A’s.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on May 13, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely different experience for me ...
I’ve been all over the country, and I’ve never been heckled like I am at Fenway. Repeatedly.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on May 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I went to Tigers-Twins game last year.
Most fans there seem like the type that won’t bother me but won’t know until I show up wearing A’s stuff.
Here was my post from that game. They also get the rich type, with a newer park, you know the type that be there to be there and arent as passionate.
Same with Philly, I actually wore A’s stuff there. Was a Phillies-Padres game. Not only had no problems, but ran in to another fan wearing A’s stuff. Talked to the guy for a bit, he had grown up here but lived there the last decade.
Funny thing only place ever heard anything was at a Giants playoff game I got free tickets too. One of the workers started saying something, seeing I had a red hat on. They were playing the cardinals. But umm I was wearing a 49ers hat.
by The Golden One on May 13, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slusser has more info on the Moneyball Movie
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
by Zonis on May 12, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just in time for the A's to be good again!
I honestly think Beane tried rebuilding a year too early. 2011 with Cust, Brown, Carter, and Doolittle mashing in line up make me drool—too ban Hanahan is still at 3rd.
Sometimes life will strike you out on a curve ball and the only choice you have is to flip off the umpire and walk to first base anyway.
by Threepwood XX on May 12, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not nessisarily
Cardenas could be at 3rd, with Ellis in his final year at 2nd.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
by Zonis on May 13, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Moneyball...
last night, I was compelled to look up the passage in Moneyball where Billy is comparing Chavy’s stats to proven stars (A-rod, Bonds) and he comments that barring injuries, Chavy’s career is a lock.
:’(
by high street on May 13, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Epic foreshadowing fail
Bad spellers of the world untie.
by A'sfaninNC on May 13, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Don Cheadle for Ron Washington idea
Wang’s ERA is the same as the balance in my checkbook - Jennifer
by closetasfan on May 13, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking Morgan Freeman
would be the better call. at least visually… and Cheadle talks way to fast.. could you imagine Cheadle talking as slow as Wash?
Ellis for President
by tosk on May 13, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were those episodes of ER a few years back
where Cheadle was an intern with Parkinson’s, and had a completely different speech pattern from his usual. I think he could do it.
by Englishmajor on May 13, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so while waiting for Chavez to recover from his elbow problem
they just happened to take an MRI of his back…and found a bulging disk?
Just another reminder that we don’t know what’s really going on with the A’s healthwise.
by OaklandSi on May 12, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Story said that he'd gotten back spasms just the other day, so they MRId him to check it out
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on May 13, 2009 5:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a usual practice to get an MRI for sudden back spasms
I suspect this is not a sudden situation.
by OaklandSi on May 13, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez is not a usual patient
If my $66,000,000 man got back spasms, I’d spare the extra $500 to the the MRI sooner rather than later.
by MobiusKlein on May 13, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez had surgery on his lower back a year and a half ago
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on May 13, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll keep saying it
Trade for Dallas McPherson and see what he can do.
Wang’s ERA is the same as the balance in my checkbook - Jennifer
by closetasfan on May 13, 2009 6:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't think Jack is the answer at 3b???
Lol…
"Where's the beef?"
by MMunoz33 on May 13, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric please go away!
I’m tired of reading about this issue.
Billy, please just release him and clear the roster space, it is time to move forward.
"Where's the beef?"
by MMunoz33 on May 13, 2009 7:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not going to happen
We need a PUP list like football. The DL just does not cut it for this team.
a ground rule double followed by three unproductive outs, sounds like my sex life - dayzd toe
by adragon on May 13, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez Board Game
Maybe if we sell a few of the “Chavez Operation Game” we can recoup some of his contract.
concocting something witty....check back frequently
by OptimistPrime on May 13, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's better than my image offering
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
by Flashfire on May 13, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you could take the gold out of his glove, the grit out of his teeth, the 110% out of his heart, and the C-notes out of his wallet.
I'm not a big wine guy... Where do you grow the BEER?
by str8tarrow on May 13, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the A's can find a sponsor logo to plaster on that thing
they can give it away at Chavvy’s last game.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
by pam5981 on May 13, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Desperate measures
Anyone in the bay have mob ties? I think cousin Vinnie should pay Chavo a visit and do us all a favor by slicing his achilles tendons. Chavez your done.
by drobicide on May 13, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is great...
"Where's the beef?"
by MMunoz33 on May 13, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez is cooked. I think he wants to retire except for the $$$ factor.
I love the guy but beyond the physical stuff he seems to have a chip on his shoulder too. Sulks, mopes, goes out of his way to paint worst case scenarios on his injuries when interviewed. I will say, he once came over to Kuwait on an MLB tour while my NG unit was stationed there. He didn’t have to do that.
Baja been here
by bajablue on May 13, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't paint worst case scenarios.
He’s honest. Sometimes brutally honest.
There’s nothing wrong with that at all.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 13, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt, he's honest.
Kinda like meeting your co-worker at the water cooler in the morning and having him say, “You know, if’s possible an airliner will crash in flames today and kill everyone aboard.”
“You ever think that when your wife doesn’t answer her cell phone, she’s in the back with the mailman?”
“You could get cancer any day, and not even know it.”
He can take his no-playin’, always-negative, biggest waste of a contract-ass, and move back to San Diego. Thanks for nuthin’.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on May 13, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answers to your alleged co-worker.
1. Sure it could. Then again, it might happen when you go on vacation next week.
2. So what if she is? At least the damn mail will be delivered correctly for a change. As long as he re-stocks the beer in the fridge, I don’t see a problem.
3. Cancer…yeah, but my biggest concern is me nutting up again over a performance evaluation and finally settling a few scores around this f*&^ing place once and for all.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what I was trying to say
He just shares TMI as my kids would say – too much information. We need a solid defensive and offensive 3B. Trade some pitching depth and bring a good 3B from one of teams tanking early. SD – Kouz (maybe), Pirates – LaRoche (not sure about him but Pitt has a stud in AAA), Washington – Zimmerman – impossible, Baltimore – Mora or Wiggington (Wig is still “young”), Colorado has two in Atkins and Stewart (we could get Atkins), Arz – Reynolds is a hack defensively but is Buck like at the plate, Even Seattle maybe – Beltre is a FA at years end I believe.
Wishful thinking but a big RH bat at that corner would be a night and day improvement.
Baja been here
by bajablue on May 13, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering Jack Cust....
I suggest that all baseball fans bookmark Joe’s blog:
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/05/13/considering-jack-cust/
by ChuckBudd on May 13, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a bulging disk too but I'm still at work
standing on cement for a good deal of the day. Okay… I’m not playing baseball and there is no way in hell I could swing a bat. I’ll give Chavy the benefit of the doubt and tell him to call Mark Kotsay for guidance.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 13, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody seen LB today?
The Zombie Apocalypse is starting with insects.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 13, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn it!
Cap’n, prepare the Off!
WBC, get the fly swatters ready!
Define "succeed." --Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on May 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.
by walkoff baltimore chop on May 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That fat lady has sung on Chavez
Billy, Billy, Billy. I know you love Chavez but, the time has finally come. No more he’s a great club house guy, no more waiting, no more hype. Lets be real. Chavez and all the “what could of been’s” is just that, dreams unfullfilled. Time to move on. Put your ego aside and start making something happen for us at third base. The great Athletic teams had awesome players on the hot corner like Sal and Carney. Chavez has been nothing but a question mark for two years. We need an answer Billy!
by oldnavyfccs on May 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd settle for an
exclamation point.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on May 13, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about a Bartolo Colon?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on May 13, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Topped with some fruity San Francisco Barrys
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
by GoA's on May 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too soon for a Chavez retrospective?
Worst clutch hitter in modern A’s history, certainly … but, man, what a beautiful, beautiful third baseman. He just made it look so smooth and easy. Not to rag on BoCro, who is obviously pretty extreme over there, but at some level Bobby reminds you of how wonderful it was to have Chavvy out there for so long.
by solotar on May 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wrote this in 2005, and I still believe it
“Eric Chavez may never be “The Man” so many desire, but he is the Master Poet of the Oakland Athletics. Frankly, I don’t care how much he makes to play baseball. That is between Lew Wolfe and Eric.
I’m just grateful I have had the chance to witness his remarkable artistry. I watch him uncoil on a pitch that is low and away, then follow the quick arc of the baseball into the left-center bleachers and I am dumbfounded by the experience.
Sure, you might be saying, “It’s about damn time!” but Pythagoras would have been cheering. Sure, in April and May, Eric Chavez’performance stunk like week-old fish. But you know what? Yeats actually wrote some piss-poor poetry. Picasso actually bagged some sketches. Even Faulkner and Joyce produced some pretty crappy novels. If you think Chavez was in a perplexing slump, read Finnegans Wake. That’s the literary equivalent of a six-season slump.
And the heart of the poet? Last year, I was in the Westside restaurant watching a game. (I can’t remember the opposing team or the batter. Forgive me, I’m 54.) The A’s were in the field, and the hitter sent a foul ball way, way up the chute, headed for the stands on the third-base side of the park. It was obviously foul, even the radio announcers said it was foul. Everyone on the field conceded.
Only one guy did not give up on the ball. He broke from his position and sprinted like a mad man toward the home team dugout. In pursuing the ball, his momentum was so great he had to slide to decelerate and balance himself to catch the ball. But his foot caught the cement lip of the dugout entrance and he crashed dangerously.
Oh yeah. And he caught the goddamn ball!
Busted his butt, risked his career, to pull in an impossible foul ball out. If he had allowed the ball to drop, no one would have thought any more about it.
You know who that guy was, of course. The heartless, gutless, inept third baseman many people want to dump for…whom?
I don’t know much, but I do know this: Brooks Robinson never saw the day he could make the plays Eric Chavez makes on a regular basis.
And Pythagoras never once cheered a Brooks Robinson plate appearance."
"My pitching philosophy is simple: Keep the ball away from the bat." -Satchel Paige
by ptbarnum on May 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I heard that Madonna totally wants to ghostride Chavy's bulging disk.
"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.
by LAXile on May 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For some reason I thought of mikev when I saw this
News Anchor Fail
NSFW (language)
I’m just messing around mikev ; -)
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on May 13, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I'm more like this
http://www.sixfivepony.com/gifs/Work_Stress.wmv
(also NWS, language)
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 13, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which character in that scene do you claim to emulate?
’Caus I could see it going either way.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
by GoA's on May 13, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to be a bartender.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on May 13, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will resist the urge to abreviate laugh out loud
because I hate how it sounds looks but that was funny.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on May 13, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with failblog
is that whomever runs it has a very bad judgment of fails.
Half of the stuff there is funny shit done on purpose, or weird stuff that turns out to be win.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
by Zonis on May 13, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Failblog is suffering from the opressive weight of fame
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
by GoA's on May 13, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they did win a webby award
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on May 13, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pronoun fail
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on May 14, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez is snakebit
Sure, I hate to see him say he can play, that he’s fine and than this happens, but people calling him a joke…please.
I don’t think he’s getting a lot of pleasure getting multiple surgeries, always being hurt and sitting on the bench.
by Walton711 on May 14, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He should have had his problems taken care of four or five years ago
instead of trying to play with them.
He has no one to blame but himself and is screwing us because of it.
by Trainman on May 14, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Beane finally waking up and smelling the coffee
about Chavez. Interesting interview here.
by OaklandSi on May 14, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Very candid stuff on Billy's part.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on May 15, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chavvy
At the beginning of spring training games I remember they announced that he would
be “pushed back” a few days to play. I got a bad feeling right there for the season. The A’s
should have taken it super slow with him, and figure he wouldn’t be ready to start
the season. Instead, they rushed him to get ready for opening day and now he’s got
so many different maladies it’s ridiculous. They should just forget about him at 3rd base
because of the shoulder thing, which has affected other parts of his body. He can’t throw
well anymore. He should be a first baseman or DH going into next year.
by SanJoseR on May 17, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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