Open Thread: Game 29 - A's vs. Blue Jays (cont.)
by Nico on May 10, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
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PrintGreat damage control by Braden leaves the A's trailing just 2-0 going to the bottom of the 5th. Scoring could be a mighty fine idea right about now.
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C'MON OFFENSE!!!!!
Braden’s left it all out there, let’s go!!!
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Ultimatum to the offense
Score this inning or I will take a nap.
High Priest in the Church of Jack Cust
Now THERE's a threat!
If they lose the next couple series will you go into a coma?
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No
I will just give them the cold shoulder by always napping during their games.
High Priest in the Church of Jack Cust
That's the worse 3-1 swing ever.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
I thought he was safe.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions
So did I
Replay shows he wasn’t, though.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Suzuki = only decent hitter on team
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
Jack Cust is decent.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
ok ok
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, so, we have two decent hitters so far this season.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok Ok!
But while Cust is decent or slightly above. Zooks has been great so far.
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Cust is putting up an .850 OPS, that's better than slightly above decent.
Higher than Kurt btw (.813).
Jeez! ok!
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This offense is painful...
Poor Braden.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Yup. He has wiggled out of crisis twice and survived a cannon to the chest,
and all he has to show for it is a bruise and a 2-run deficit.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It really really is. Just like last year.
I’ve no idea why it’s so bad though, ‘cos on paper is should be pretty decent. You can’t just say all of the hitters are in a slump because a) it’s been a month and b) that would suggest that we’re going to score a bajillion runs in the second half of the season, which totally isn’t going to happen.
Realistically
This team does not look like scoring even 1 run.
The Lakers were really, really pounded today.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the Moneyball system doesn't work anymore!
Beane must feel kinda stupid for having written that book now.
[/snark]
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know Crosby's Mom was Sigourney Weaver?
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions
She looked just like her
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever we are losing by come the 9th
be it 2, 3 or 4, we will score just enough to lose by 1
so gameday is showing that curve to kurt...
that was called a strike … inside the RH batter’s box. really?
"The hard... is what makes it great."
It looked better on television.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
So far this season, 67 percent of our games have been decided by two runs or less.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
i need to find that site that gives W-L by run diff.
i might have done that myself though, way back when. but i’m sure it’s somewhere.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Oh well. Was a double anyway.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
O CAB sucks....Bobby is laughing at Beane right now
Bobby already has better stats then OCAB with 1/2 the at bats.
I didn’t even realize that Crosby was hitting .267 this year now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
his BB% is also almost 2x career average.
like scoot, it’ll be interesting if that’s sustainable. 254/375/373/748?
also, hitting 10% more flyballs, and that’s come out of groundballs. we could be talking sample-size issues too.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
We could, plus I imagine he's been facing a good percentage of
lefties. That said he just ‘looks’ better at the plate – he’s laying off pitches he should and driving the mistakes. Perhaps his batting sessions with McGwire are paying off.
Did Holliday mess that one up?
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
I think that it was a double regardless of what Holliday did there.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
oh
yea I’m a Dish customer…so
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
when he has to go that far for a ball, yeah, i'd imagine
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It would’ve taken a heck of a throw.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
well, any time it's medium deep and the runner's going home...
you have a good shot.
if it’s deep and it’s ichiro, you go anyways.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Jose Bautista just became good this year.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions
Korach just said,
“These guys get the job done with a runner in scoring position”
Haven’t they left three men on base twice already in this game?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Yeah, it has been something like that. They left the bases loaded in the first inning and I think that Scutaro was stranded in another inning.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll be playing meaningful games in September.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
meangingful to the propsects who get called up in september...
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
We suck so far, but
the rest of the division isn’t great either, so there’s still a chance.
Also, I’ve been around long enough to remember those years when we always started slow and heated up in summer.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Yes, such as the 2006 season, for example.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly, I think that's overly optimistic thinking iglew
The Angels are a game over .500 despite being without 4 SPs they counted on and Vlad. They have done exactly what they needed to do.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
To be fair....
I certainly haven’t given up on them. It is too early in the season for that.
But at this point this team is no damn fun to watch. And they remind me a lot of last year’s team. Which is not a good thing.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the fact there is baseball
I really can’t get frustrated with a team this early in the season, tbh
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitching: Surprisingly good.
Hitting: Surprisingly bad.
We’re still in with a shout because the division is so poor, but it’s difficult to watch at the moment.
Well the first 1/3 of the season hasn't passed yet.
Since we’re the A’s we cannot asess anything or make any reasonable adjustments until June 1st.
Haha, but seriously our pitching probably is about what could’ve been expected but the offense is seriously underperforming….
Will we compete? Hmmm…
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
We can't be this bad. I think we'll play much better but who knows how much of a hole
we can dig before it’s too late.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, Holliday just struck out on three pitches.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions
Brett Cecil....tooo...... sttroongg!
/dies
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
Scutaro with a heads up play. Damn.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
You mean the 2007-09 season?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Geren, bad hitters, bad hitting philosophy
The FAIL trifecta.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
bad hitters
translates into bad hitting philosphy and bad hitting
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
bad hitters doesn't necessarily translate into bad philosophy.
you can know what you’re doing but not be able to execute it.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Okay.
I see bad hitters differently than non-talented hitters.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My point is that unfortunately it's both
Bad hitters, and a bad philosophy. Not the best combination.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
got it
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Which Angels pitcher is it that dominates us because he takes
advantage of that bad philosophy and throws the first pitch for a strike to get ahead in the count. It’s Saunders, right?
Obviously I don’t mean he does it exclusively, but it’s one that sticks out in my mind. He grooves that first pitch without fear of the A’s swinging the bat.
Whereas when Barajas comes up with a man at third and one out today,
he drives the first pitch to CF for a sac fly. Baseball is about making adjustments. If the home plate umpire has a wide outside corner all day, you have two choices – the A’s make the wrong one.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah but then he wouldn't have to bat next inning... and we would be one person close to Cust again!!!!!
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
I vote for firing Geren. He does not inspire this team.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree...
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
If Urban really had balls he would come out and say that
“players don’t have confidence in Geren”.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
and I think he does
I just know it in my heart.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No other organization would keep him around for long
I still don’t get it. Art Howe and Macha have winning sesons and get moved out. This guy is a loser and he remains.
but they didn't get along with BB
It’s just like the real world. You normally have to get along with your boss when he’s a controlling one.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Geren getting fired...
…would at this point be a pretty satisfying silver lining.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This team needs to be fired up
All most of them are doing is defrauding the A’s out of money.
AT least 10 of them fall into this category IMO
For those of you scoring at home, Giambi is the beef, Holliday is the brawn, Cust is the dynamite and Chavez is the TNT.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions
“Jack’s speed took him past the bag,” says Ray Fosse.
Fosse loves bringing up Cust’s speed.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions
In fairness he was gunning it for second base.
Clearly he has the afterburners, but not the air brakes.
Hmm?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Kuiper (I think) said....
…that the A’s bullpen had the best ERA in the majors, but I swear it sounded like “bestiary in the majors,” which sounds more interesting, especially because our bullpen would need to somehow have a negative ERA in order for us to start winning ballgames (unless, that is, someone teaches the offense to show up).
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you trade Matt Holliday for Fred Lewis and Jonathan Sanchez?
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions
what is sanchez's contract situation?
and is lewis better than davis?
"The hard... is what makes it great."
I think when the Giants released Davis
it was basically a choice between him and Lewis. Lewis can’t play CF, mind. plus, he’s not very good at catching.
he did have a bunion last year, which is pretty amusing
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
the question is: would the giants trade lewis and sanchez for holliday?
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
It's the Giants
They could probably get alderson and sandoval
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
we can make fun of the giants all day long..
but they’re better than the A’s.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
Still, making fun of the giants all day long sounds pretty satisfying
….seeing as complaining about this team isn’t doing much good!
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
right - but we can still make fun of them, right?
that’s clearly the more important thing
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants are not better. They have only played 6 games outside of the NL West
and that division is worse than ours.
by theblackpearl on May 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
their pitching rotation is undeniably good
and it’s not as if the A’s batters are making up the difference, at the moment
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum is undeniably good, and Zito is pitching well, the rest of the staff
is as inconsistent as Cahill and Anderson.
by theblackpearl on May 10, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Cain is a better pitcher, at the moment, than either of those two
which is obviously not to say they won’t be better in the future. But who would I want for just this year? Definitely Cain.
Sanchez was in the top ten in the league for strickouts last year, too. though, yes, he is massively inconsistent. not a bad man to have as your number five, though, huh.
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm relatively sure the org thinks sandoval is the second coming.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Lewis = Waay better than Davis
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
Reply fail
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Wuertz continues to be very solid
And I think he has the most appearances for us? Good pickup for us, either way.
KC Implodes
3-3 and still batting are the slegnA
I think you are a closet slegnA fan.
You are obssessed with what they have going on at all times :-)
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
or possibly Yoda
still batting are the slegnA
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Plese don't insult me
I hate them and get to see them on TV because I live in Southern Cal.
Understood.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I need to turn this off
cuz I don’t wanna hear Fosse and Kuiper tell me I have to “tip my cap” to Toronto pitcher … um … what’s his name again?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Am I correct in assuming that Dallas
has yet to allow more than 3ER in any start?
I remember Haren had a pretty nice streak of that. Not that I’m comparing the two, mind you.
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
This all started in 2007 after the A's lost the 2006 ALCS fired Macha
traded Bradley and lost Chavez due to injury and we haven’t seen him since!!!
"Where's the beef?"
We haven't seen Chavez since about '04
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
He should be back 100% after his rehab assignment... (LMFAO) right!!!
Eric Chavez if your reading this, please note that we here at the “Athletics Nation” blog are sick of your injury antics and want you to go away…
Send your MLB checks to Lew and be gone!!!!!!!
"Where's the beef?"
Me too.
I think that is an unfair statement to say the least.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
No it's not... we signed Nomar and Giambi... and trade for Holliday...
as soon as they get in the lineup we’ll be fine. Where have they been by the way?
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
Keep 'em out of there!
Players who hang out in the A’s trainer’s room rarely ever see the light of day!
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
think he was the BJs top pitching prospect coming into this year
started in AAA, but they called him up due to almost all of their starting rotation being hurt
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by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
This offense should be mercilessly booed!!!!!!!!!
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
If only there were people there to boo.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
great at bat there, Jack.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
Vince, " Cecil has been brilliant through 8."
How about the A’s have just been terrible.
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
Exactly. Nothing against Cecil, but I'd say
he’s been “OK.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Is it possible that we face Cy Young every game?
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Vince assuming Cecil will be brilliant again next inning?
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
The A's offense is pure garbage
Hannahan leads the charge
Did he really say that?!
See, that’s the kind of bulls*** that really pisses me off. Do your job quit making every pitcher we face sound like Sandy Koufax. Every. Single. Time. When our offense is putrid, I have to hear our guys tell me how “brilliant” the opposing pitcher is. That is such BULLS***! Ok, I’m done.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Sadly they're glorified PR men.
Obviously nobody wants to hear constant criticism from the home announcers, but when it’s warranted issues should be brought up. It’s much more frustrating listening to them try to put a positive spin on the whole situation.
It's also bad sportsmanship
if you never give credit to the opposite team’s pitching, etc, you are insulting them.
The A’s sometimes prevent the bases loaded, no outs situation from scoring – is it good pitching by the A’s, or bad batting? (not exclusive, as well.)
Obviously you make a judgement call on who deserve credit for a play.
It’s insulting to the fans to never criticise the A’s.
Yup
but here on the AN site, we are free to choose, and free to be less sportmanlike.
I think commentary provided here may not be work safe, let alone FCC allowed.
and you KNOW, Fosse is going to tip his hat, during the post game.
by theblackpearl on May 10, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
as he should.
even if we suck, he still needs to do his job … throw strikes, etc. it’s less difficult, yes, but last i checked we were still a major league team and we can’t be relegated.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Seriously. I know that if I've never heard of the opposing pitcher?
we’re gonna get shut out.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
And leave the tying and winning runners on base.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
Wow, pathetic.
It won’t matter if they ever get a new stadium built. No one is going to show up to see the awful product being put on the field.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Ziegler lives.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
I rejoiced!
Never heard of the movie and that makes me happy for some odd reason.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's the plot summary
A woman’s life is derailed en route to a potentially lucrative summer job. When her car breaks down, and her dog is taken to the pound, the thin fabric of her financial situation comes apart, and she is led through a series of increasingly dire economic decisions.
I just got on, but dang...
this is a slow game thread.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Lovely inning by Ziggy
welcome back
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
Eric should be back 100% after his rehab assignment... (LMFAO) right!!!
Eric Chavez if your reading this, please note that we here at the "Athletics Nation" blog are sick of your injury antics and want you to go away…
Send your MLB checks to Lew and be gone!!!!!!!
"Where's the beef?"
Deja Vu!
Next time, you might want to try spelling “you’re” correctly. Just sayin’….
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Chavez retired?
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on May 10, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he went to the moon on an experimental Virgin-craft
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think his credit line to BALCO just got cut off.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Eric Chavez is a virgin? Wow!!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on May 10, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That does nothing for me besides state the obvious. Heck, why did it even start at 50%?
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Ziegler has a nice frisbee
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions
It looks cooler in real life.
Just sayin.
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by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
KK says... "We'll see if the A's offense can come alive"
Go out and buy a lottery ticket Ken
Surprised Vince didn't remind him we're facing
Drysdale … I mean, Seaver… I mean Gibson … wait,
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Does anyone know our BP's era so far?
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
Nice
Just trying to cheer myself up.
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It was, I believe, 2.65 coming into today’s game.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuiper: "Whatever [Cecil]'s doing, it's working today."
Facing the A’s, perhaps?
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
+ a million
(sob)
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on May 10, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is it always, hey the other pitcher is doing really well today?
When does it become, our offense sucks, rather than every other team in baseball has really great pitching?
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on May 10, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He was pretty good in his first start as well
6 IP, 1 run I think. So 1 run against a normal team = 0 against the A’s in more innings.
Somebody has to do it
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a feeling that O-Cab
is one of those players who would bitch and moan if he was moved down in the lineup, but he definitely doesn’t deserve to lead off.
I know we don’t have a lot of great choices but at least we should give someone else a chance, I mean that CANNOT possibly be performing worse than Cabrera.
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Fairly disgusting.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Nah, Kuip ... it just "helps" to face us.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Please just give us something to cheer about. Anyone?
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
At least they have a stadium worth visiting.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
but the team isn't worth watching
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
A's radio ratings will be better this week
Since I’m filling out an Arbitron diary? I’m sticking with this game so I can honestly say that I listened to every A’s game this week.
if we're so bad... why do we bother to get hits before the 7th inning?
games would at least be exciting then…
"The hard... is what makes it great."
What kinda' odds would you give me if I bet $100 the A's will get no-hit this season?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Thats a really really good question.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
LOL, all the sports-bettors are thinking about it ... 10-1?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Why is Beane so much worse at getting hitters than the other 29 GMs in MLB?
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Cause he drafts "Walkers"
and not “hitters”.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
If this keeps up we should have some high draft picks that will be ready by 2012
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
i don't think we particularly draft to an approach,,
but we teach that approach and make people follow it.
this is just recollection and i have no proof.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
I don't know
but he is a failure in this department.
Keeps drafting pitchers and the hitters he does draft are told to back their way on base.
I know build a team around pitching is prob a better idea
than build a team around hitters. But man it sure is boring as shit to watch.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
How in the hell do you let that ball drop?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
I will say it again
Fire Geren or get ready for 90 losses.
This team is not motivated.
Beane only fires managers with winning records.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
and doesn't give a guy like Francona a shot
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Turns out it's basically impossible to catch..
…if you believe Fosse and Kuiper.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Fosse and Kuiper are laughing at our team
I don’t think it’s funny.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
I agree
it angers the fuck out of me that they are so incompetent.
If you have MLB.tv it's generally less painful to listen to other teams' broadcasters
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
the difference is that they're getting paid, and you're paying to see it.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Ouch. My bill is $180 a month.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
On the plus side...
…unlike DishTV subscribers who are also paying to see it, I’m actually seeing it!
Wait…maybe that’s not such a good thing….
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they're trying to laugh _with_ our team.
Which is actually worse, in a way.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel so stupid for thinking we'd actually contend for anything this year.
The Angels are just going to get better. Hell, the Rangers don’t even Hamilton right now.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
I think this weak division reasoning
Has run its course. Being 7 games under ,500 gets you nothing but the cellar. You have to be playing like you are on a mission and this team is playing like they want to lose.
Obviously, we need to be over .500 before it's worth talking about anything
But it’s still good news that no one is tearing it up in our division.
Agreed. I hope we reach .500 because that should make it interesting.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree and the Angels are theoretically supposed to be worse than us with all their injuries.....Im looking at the standings and don't see it...
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on May 10, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It's because they know how to operate on the basepaths.
They are not good. They just play the game smarter than we do.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't EVER feel stupid in your optimism.....what kind of fans are we if we don't support our team?
even when they’re losing…
I rock!! Guitar Hero said so
by BERRYJO on May 10, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
We do support the team
they just piss us off in the process
It's just to the point they have been so pathetic offensively since 2004...
that it isn’t even fun to watch anymore. For some reason I still do it though.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
I think it's b/c they could turn it around in ANY game!
We never know which game will be brilliant so we continue to watch. Intermitent reinforcement does it. LOL
I rock!! Guitar Hero said so
by BERRYJO on May 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I know.....they make me mad too
I rock!! Guitar Hero said so
by BERRYJO on May 10, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I really thought he was out.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions
where was pitch #2 of this ab?
gameday says it hit him, but clearly it didn’t.
“and the a’s …. do NOT get the double play.” sigh. good try. marco hates us :(
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Marco kinda hopped over pitch 2. it was way in, and way low
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on May 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The replay shows that his foot hit the dirt in front of the bag...He was out!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
I wish I had a guitar to fix...
…so I could have a draft beer in the basement.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions
Did Scoot even touch the bag?
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
COuld we not just catch ONE break ??
I rock!! Guitar Hero said so
by BERRYJO on May 10, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
It's always hard to get 4 outs in an inning
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
5 now...
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Gray is on the team now?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
yeah... i really wish he were DFA'ed.
… and that’s before he made the ML roster.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
He was called up along with Kennedy while Petit was sent back to Triple-A Sacramento and Copeland was designated for assignment.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on May 10, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, I missed the Copeland half.
So did the Giants reclaim him off rule 5 then?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
BZ was very good for a long time.
Then he really really sucked for a while. And lately he’s been good again.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
He's still recovering from flu and then bad athsma...
I rock!! Guitar Hero said so
by BERRYJO on May 10, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I know we have a solid bullpen
but why take Braden out after 84 pitches? I mean Geren does that sort of thing a lot and then complains about his guys not going deep enough?
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
Young keeps a three game count.
I wonder if Braden has gone over his allocated pitch count over the three combined starts.
That or he’s just realised he’s broken his hand on that comebacker. Either or – we are the A’s after all.
I hate our obsession with pitch count
" I may not know how to tango, but I sure as hell can man dance!" -Nate Robles
by DaSwinginA's on May 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I want another crazy game that gets really close at the end.
Like those games against the Mariners.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Dang it guys, you are ruining this for me. You are way ahead of the mlb.tv feed.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
I think there's plenty of blame to go around on this one
pretty much everyone except Suzuki and Braden
Yaya
and the A’s even ruin my chance at getting a save for my fantasy team. This team and F off.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
they have fans?
at least they have strasburg to get excited about.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
On paper :- /
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
new park, blahblahblah.
wait … marginally better … in a 2 (3?) year old park?!
"The hard... is what makes it great."
Agreed.
Ill follow on game cast but Im not watching anymore.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
At least you can watch it
Lame Dish Network customer here. Lousy TV contracts, lousy offense…GO A’s! Rally!
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on May 10, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont mind losing
but this is like watching paint dry.
by asfaninpismobeach on May 10, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
At least when you're watching paint dry, it's usually no worse than a tie.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
or paint crack.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
You're supposed to paint it?
I’ve been snorting it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah. Why are there drug wars?
You can buy a gallon of paint for $12.99 and it lasts for several years.
These ain't your father's A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on May 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
normally one might expect a useless solo shot this inning
but with the way the A’s are playing today I’m thinking 3 pitches = 3 outs
"Rhymes" in the Miller Genuine Draft jingle:
guitar – yard
woods – good
pool – cruise
place – taste
Fail.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
I think that was today's useless solo shot bid...
Expect a 1-2-3 inning now.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
At this point, I'd rather see a newly activated Cunningham play than "This Ain't No" Holliday
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
The sooner he gets called up...
the sooner he puts up a .196 BA and our hopes for him for being somewhat decent in the major leagues go out the window.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Yeah, but when Holliday is flirting iwth the Mendoza line, why pay millions more for the same production?
In all honesty, I’m just tired of crappy offense : (
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on May 10, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It's pretty sad
when you say Game over as soon as run is given up and actually mean it when you say it
oh man! my radio went into emergency broadcast system klaxon mode
and i was all like, YES! nuclear war!
but then the game came back.
don't care if i ever get back.
i'm not sure.
studying may have been more fun than the game itself.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
That's gotta be sad.....
I rock!! Guitar Hero said so
by BERRYJO on May 10, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That could have been worse.
When they go extra innings they hurt even more.
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 10, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions
Our offense is no better than it was last year....This team is unwatchable!!
And I am tired of the excuses from the A’s media team….they are talkng about how they ran into a pitcher who was really on his game today…..just shut up!!! They just keep giving him credit….If we had just one inkling of offense it would not have been that way!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
Why does it start at 50/50?
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
there are arguments for and against this.
technically i think it should be about 52/48, but fangraphs uses formulas instead of emperical data… but because of stuff like this:
Just a random example, put in “home, 9, 1, empty, -4”. In the 2000-2004 time period (5 years), the home team won 2 out of 541 (4%). If the batter makes an out, they win 2 out of 410 (5%). And this is using 5 years of data. I’m sure I can pick out dozens, if not hundreds, of situations, that are clearly illogical.
from here
"The hard... is what makes it great."
highest WPA on the A's side:
Wuertz: +2.2%
Croz: +2.1%
Kurt: +1.9%
Gray: +0.1%
Ziggy: -1.2%
pitching: -2.4%; hitting: -47.6%
Cecil: +46.8%
yawn.
"The hard... is what makes it great."
F U Torri Hunter
Robs Olivo of a game tying homer. Over the wall by at least a foot
Are they going to do this again next year too?
No one comes in from Holliday, Giambi, OCab, Crosby and they’re still stuck with an injured Chavez and Ellis? With more 1-year vets and rooks who are not ready but have to try? Payroll is not going up… Geren will be back. Good grief…
But hey… Devine will be back.
Where's your picket fence, Love?
KC just got swept so
they will right their ship when they come here.
Well I'm sure that no matter what we will make all of their pitchers look like Cy Young!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on May 10, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Brett Cecil was 0-3 with an ERA of 8 in AAA....and gets his 1st ML win today??? WTF!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
Did we just throw a lineup with 5 lefties against a lefty?
Makes a whole lotta sense to send Petit back to AAA and bring in Kennedy when Toronto have 2 LHP’s in the series.
We have scored in 3 of our last 28 innings
Major shakeup needed including firing that sack we have for a manager.
This team is an embarrassment to it’s fans but we are lifelong fans so we will have to endure this shit for a little longer.
As far as I am concerned the blame falls squarely on Billy Beane who when it comes to drafting hitters that are needed to fill the gaping holes is out GM’ed by most of baseball
GAME RECAP IS UP
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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