How are the ex-A's doing
by OmahaHi on Apr 28, 2009 9:45 PM PDT
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PrintIts early in the season and one of the things I like to do is watch how all the old A's players are doing. See who's hot and who's not. I'm sure I missed more than a handful so feel free to include those.
The Good:
Scutaro- .266, 4HR, 13 RBI on pace for 28 and 91.
R.Ludwick- .328, 5HR, 19 RBI. 6 years to develop but his .299/37/113 last year was worth the wait.
D.Haren- 1.54 ERA, .74 Whip
A. Ethier- .301, 5HR, 20RBI. I hate that trade more and more every day.
A. Harang- 3.00 ERA, 1.22 Whip. Its been along time but last year was by far his worst since he was on our team.
Aurthor Rhodes- 0.00 in 8IP. He's had a few good years in limited innings the last two.
J.Dye- .300 5HR, 12 RBI. Freak injury changed the history of our franchise
C Pena- .257, 9HR, 24 RBI. His 27 HR two years removed from us gave a preview of a preimer player now.
M. Tejada- .325, OHR, 4RBI. In the 5+ years since we went with Chavez over Tejada he has hit .310 vrs .255 and played in 250+ more games,
Chad Gaudin- didnt make his team but the smart Pad's pick him up and get 5 shutout innings and a team win in his first start.
The BAD
H.Street- 7.00 ERA, 1.67whip- got rid of him at the right time
J.Kendall- .180 0HR, 6RBI. anyone miss him?
B. Zito- 5.24, 1.39 whip. seems to get worse every year.
Milton Bradley .281 1HR, 4RBI.
Day to day with his reasoning ability. He will be fighting Jose Canceco in a few years if he keeps it up. Of course this will be after he punches the ref out.
Texas used him perfect last year. DH his fragil self and keep him away from everyone in-between at bats. Should not have gone to the N.L.
E.Byrnes-.188, 3HR, 5RBI.
J.Blanton- 8.41 ERA, 1.97 Whip. Ouch
A.Embree- 5.06ERA
A Fistfull of Dollars
Nick Swisher- .284 4HR, 14RBI. going for the reverse Ankiel.
J.Guillen- .286 2HR/4RBI
J.Damon- .292 2HR/7RBI
O.Dotel-0.00ERA. 1.65 Whip
K.Calero- 3.00ERA , .78 whip
R.Hernandez .259 1HR, 4RBI
Ted Lilly- 3.80, 1.10 whip
R.Harden 3.86 1.19 whip
Mike Sweeny .303 3RBI
The Ugly-
Mark Mulder- Injured
Tim Hudson- Injured
High Plains Drifters-
Recent players on a team as recently as '08, not on a major league team/injured-(i think)there seems to be alot of them.
S.Steward
D.Johnson
M. Kotsay
L.Dinardo
E.Brown
G.Smith
K.Folke
K.Sarloos
B. Keilty
A. Mellhouse
S. Hattelburg
J.Payton
Ricardo Rincon
For a Few Dollars More
-AAA talent-
Jesus Guzman- .282 leads the Giants AAA team in doubles, HR, RBI's and strikeouts. I wish we would have done more to keep him with the lack of 3rd base talent in are upper minor leagues and majors. With Chavy gone next year or sooner I would have felt better giving him his cup o coffee over Hanahan.
Carlos Gonzolez- .284, 2HR, 20 RBI.
Matt Murton- .411 4HR, 19RBI.
older AAA guys
E.Hinske- .273 OHR/2RBI
M. Teahan- .328 2HR/7RBI
Ok who did I miss and will I be
Unforgivin
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Dan Meyer
RP for marlins last time I looked he had good stats.
our boy Nelson Cruz
He’s turned out to be a good player, took a while like Ludwick, but he’d look good now
keith ginter!
nice trade billy
to be fair they did get cruz originally from mets for jorge velandia
by Asfan4ever723 on Apr 29, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll Take Most Of Them Back!
Believe me, with a lot of those guys, I could put a team together that would kick this current crop of A’s right outta town! Or at least they would’nt be pulling up lame when they sneeze on the field.
All About The Exclamation Points!!!
Milton Bradley and Harden disagree
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Is that down the street from the holiday inn
by redtopcowboy on Apr 29, 2009 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
What does Matt Holliday have to do with this?? LOL
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Apr 30, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought this would be a post about
Ellis
Garciaparra
etc.
holliday effect = manny effect
i expected it to be similar and help the other hitters
ethier has turned into a monster since…buck/sweeney have a long way to go get there
E. Hinske was in the A's minors?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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Yep was one of the top prospects a's had.
and was the key piece and used along with Justin Miller to get Billy Koch from the Blue Jays.
did Miller ever get to the show?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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Hinske and Koch right up there as all-time great Beane trades
Remember 2001? 100 win seasons, MVPs galore, and amazing trades.
In January of ‘01 Beane picked up Miguel Cairo, a light-hitting utility man with swiss army knife versatility. He also stole bases (no wonder he didn’t last as an Athletic). In March ’01 the Cubs, having lacked 3B production for years, traded the future (Hinske) for a better than anything we have now option. Hinske had a great year in Sacramento with .893 OPS and 29 HR. Cairo recorded 9 RBIs for the Cubs and was put on waivers.
Then came 2002. The corner spots for the major league club were sizzling with vintage Chavez and Giambi production. No room for Hinske. The hole in the roster was on the other side of the ball, in the pen, where stud closer Jason Isringhausen had just departed for redder pastures (and an eventual WS ring) in St. Louis. Beane addressed the issue by swapping Hinske for Billy Koch. Both sides enjoyed great 2002 dividends with Hinske winning RoY and Koch earning 44 saves and an 18th place finish in MVP voting.
More vintage Beane in 2003: With Koch needing money after a productive season, Beane dumped him on the White Sox in exchange for then-struggling Keith Foulke. Foulke of course posted 43 saves in 2003; Koch meanwhile fell off the map. Hinske never matched his 2002 form, instead settling into a career as a decent, somewhat productive MLB-quality third baseman.
A final intersecting path tidbit:
In 2007 Miguel Cairo was designated for assignment to make room for Jason Giambi on the Yankees 40 man roster.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
Lots of cool info
but Giambi was on the Yankees in 2002. The Scott Hatteberg experiment started in 02, which work out nicely for The Streak, but it wasn’t exactly vintage Giambi production.
I had totally forgotten about Hinske, decent trade in my mind.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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I was referring to the '01-'02 offseason
We traded for Koch on December 7th. Giambi jilted us for the Yankees December 13th. My blatant speculation is that we had on the rose glasses and thought Giambi would remain an Athletic when we pulled the trigger on the Hinske deal.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
ah
that is true. there was a slight glimmer of hope for Giambi still. You sir have a great memory, I’m only 26 but can barely remember what happened last year.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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You give me too much credit
The internet is my memory bank. That and reliving the Giambi’s leaving when he came back.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
Isringhausen can be added to the ugly
Currently on the 15 day DL with the Rays. Some good seasons in St. Louis, but elbow tendinitis led to a horrible ‘08. Now he’s trying to add a few more pages to his career with Tampa Bay.
Izzy Hanging on For Dear Life (not literally)
If you want to put a smile on your face, watch the minute-long video at the end of the article.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
It's a trend dating all the way back to the early 1900's.
In 1914, Frank “Home Run” Baker left us for the Yankees and in the 30’s Jimmie Foxx was shipped off to the Red Sox. Both were HOF talents we let slip away.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
oh yeah, one of my all time favorite A's.
I really liked the “Vintage” (thanks GoA’s) HR Stairs hit last post season against the Dodgers.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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Holy crap
C- Ramon Hernandez
1B- Carlos Pena
2B- Marco Scutaro
SS- Miguel Tejada
3B- Mark Teahan
LF- Jermaine Dye
CF- Nick Swisher
RF- A. Ethier
DH- Milton Bradley
Clear its radiance shine...
well, they couldn't have Ethier and Bradley without letting someone go
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T-Rex
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Apr 30, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Bradley's hitting .107, not .281.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
look, i love Scoot
but does anyone really think he’s on a 28HR pace? small samples, people…
I absolutely think he's on a 28HR pace
(but I don’t think he’ll hit 28 HRs for the season).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Apr 30, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
More names
Are we counting those who were only minor leaguers?
Bonderman
Bradford
Catalanotto (Rule 5 returnee)
German (Esteban)
German (Franklyn)
Griffin (John-Ford)
Jukich
Kiger (Great trivia answer)
Laird
Mahay
McBeth
Melillo (Walked, but no official ABs.)
Olivo
Papelbon (Draftee, didn’t sign)
Pettyjohn
Quintanilla
Smoak (Draftee, didn’t sign)
Vizcaino
I think we're getting close to the complete list
Still found another unmentioned name.
Kevin Gregg, drafted way back in ‘96. Can’t yet tell how his season is going, as the Cubs have had few savable games.
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
A painful sentence from SI.com today
Re the Marlins’ bullpen: “The league is hitting .151 against Leo Nunez, .152 against Dan Meyer and .158 against Kiko Calero. Florida’s relievers lead the majors in strikeouts, and they’ve put together streaks of 24 and 19 consecutive shutout innings.”
All 3 of those guys have ex-A’s connections.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&page=starting9/090513
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