Buck, yeah! A's outlast Red Sox on 12th-inning chopper
by Flashfire on Apr 15, 2009 12:09 AM PDT
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Travis Buck's high chopper with the bases loaded and two out in the bottom of the 12th scored pinch-runner Rajai Davis and the Oakland A's pulled out a 6-5 victory against the Boston Red Sox.
The way the game started out, few people would have predicted the A's would go scoreless for ten innings and still win. Dana Eveland had a rocky first inning, allowing three runs before getting out of it leaving the bases loaded. Against Daisuke Matsuzaka, the A's quickly evened things up then went a little further, plating five runs of their own thanks to a Matt Holliday double and singles by Jack Cust, Travis Buck and Mark Ellis.
Matsuzaka's night was over after that, which was bad news for the A's (4-4). Justin Masterson came in to throw four quality innings, three of the 1-2-3 variety, allowing just a pair of hits while striking out six for the Red Sox (2-6). Meanwhile, Eveland settled down until struggling again in the fifth, unable to finish the inning before Boston tied it up.
Andrew Bailey took over to bail Eveland out, working a couple solid innings of his own as the bullpens of both teams combined to put up nothing but goose eggs on the scoreboard. Santiago Casilla, Russ Springer and Brad Ziegler kept the Red Sox off the board with Ziegler getting into and out of trouble in the 10th.
Sean Gallagher worked a quick 1-2-3 12th and Javier Lopez started the bottom half by walking Jason Giambi. Holliday moved him up with a grounder, then Lopez walked Cust (pitching around him) and Bobby Crosby. Davis then came in to run for Giambi and Kurt Suzuki went down on three pitches before Buck ended it, saving Bob Geren the need to figure out who to put at first base with Giambi removed, plus Nomar Garciaparra leaving after one inning because of calf tightness.
I'd offer some actual commentary on the game but the truth of it is I'm too tired for it. I will note this is Boston's worst start since 1996 and they've now lost five in a row in Oakland and 12 of their past 15 in the Coliseum. Yay for that.
The two teams meet up one more time tomorrow at 12:35 PM. It'll be Brett Anderson against ancient knuckleballer Tim Wakefield, who is twice Anderson's age (42 to 21).
Thank you and good night.
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There was a point where I thought that...
Rajai Davis would be playing first, Nomar would come back to replace Crosby on third and that Landon Powell would be pitching. Glad it didn’t come to that! And glad to pull out that win on a tough night. Especially nice to see Dice-K not make it to the 2nd.
I was going to buy a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking, and then I thought: "What the hell good would that do?"
by Jackson23 on Apr 15, 2009 12:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nomar was replaced by Crosby
can’t come back into the game.
I like Golf, but I'm not very good at it. For example, I have never gotten a Hole in One. But I did hit a guy, and that was way more satisfying. You're supposed to yell "FORE!", but I was too busy mumbling "There ain't no way that's gunna hit him." Whats Par for Hitting a Guy? One. If you Hit a Guy in Two, you're an Asshole. - Mitch Hedberg.
by Zonis on Apr 15, 2009 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, meant it as a joke...
Somebody in the game thread wondered (also jokingly) if the game went past midnight could Nomar come back in since it was a new day. I rolled with that. Also unlikely in reality that Landon Powell would pitch. Blast you, damn difficult sarcasm in text form!!!
I was going to buy a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking, and then I thought: "What the hell good would that do?"
by Jackson23 on Apr 15, 2009 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought someone should point out
that for all the focus on a recharged lineup and the kiddie corps rotation, the A’s bullpen has now thrown 29 innings, and allowed a grand total of 5 ERs. That’s a 1.55 ERA for those scoring at home.
If Geren had yanked Eveland one batter earlier we would have been spared this joyous late night celebration. But seriously the pen has been even better than advertised— and without Devine.
by jasonthea on Apr 15, 2009 12:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't expext that either.
I was hoping for it, but dayum!
"You have to score to win"~Rickey Henderson
by lynnzgal on Apr 15, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, that also means the starters are averaging less than 6 innings per game.
by javaball on Apr 15, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I think 4 of those have come with Ziggy on the mound
(Although Casilla was charged with 2 of them).
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Apr 15, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, great minds.
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think those 5 runs were all in that awful inning Sat. too!
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Travis Buck would go 3-for-5 on a night in which Ryan Sweeney was just 1-for-6.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 15, 2009 12:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think
that Gallagher deserves better than the 12th inning…
by dtran320 on Apr 15, 2009 12:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope Buck gains confidence from this
Buck is one of my favorite players when he performs. He seems like the kind of guy who needs confidence to get going. Maybe this game will help get in his September/AAA mindset. If Buck puts up a line like 2007 I’d love to see this lineup just once:
Buck
Cust
Holliday
Giambi
Chavez/Nomar
Ellis
Sweeney
Suzuki
Cabrera
Now if Ellis could just hit like 2005, Chavez like 2003, Giambi like 2001, and Nomar like 1999…
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see this later in the year when 2009 performances are substantial enough to mean something
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 15, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Ellis might hit like .2005, Chavez .2003...
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Apr 15, 2009 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
two thousand is better than one thousand, no?
by Future Ed on Apr 15, 2009 4:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Geren should have used a long reliever instead of taxing the bullpen
by javaball on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Say, Gallagher?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Apr 15, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They might need Gallagher again tomorrow
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 15, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bullpen would be fresh tomorrow if they hadn't all been used today already.
by javaball on Apr 15, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had the long guy right where he wanted him
able to go deep in case this thing went like 15-16 innings.
Neither Wuertz or Blevins were used. I can’t knock Geren except for not replacing Eveland one batter earlier (was it the old “let’s get the starter the win” thing?)
A win is win— get it any way you can.
by jasonthea on Apr 15, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
It was to see exactly how much he could get out of Eveland, a little that he thought Eveland could do it, and yes a little bit to get the starter the W
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Apr 15, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree - no qualms about Geren's bullpen usage
you don’t plan for 12-inning games – but you save your long guy for them.
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
by JJ on Apr 15, 2009 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope Anderson can pitch well tomorrow
But even if he can’t go very deep we still have Wuertz, Blevins, Gallagher, Ziegler, and Springer available with the off day on Thursday.
I said to myself that we had to score in the 12th if we hoped to win because I didn’t like our chances with Gallagher pitching to the heart of the Red Sox lineup in the 13th. Some people are comfortable with Sean pitching but I’m not one of them right now. I have high hopes for him eventually but right now I don’t think he’s ready for the bigs.
One final note, and I hate to even say this but at the same time love it, am I the only one who thinks that the douche Papelbon looks a lot like that douche Spencer from the TV show The Hills?
Spencer
Papeldouche
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Apr 15, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what a pinch
boxers, or briefs?
Depends….
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
d-bag = d-bag
they are the same person
by drink409 on Apr 15, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ziggy threw 56 pitches over the last 2 days
I don’t see him available tomorrow. They’ve been leaning pretty hard on Wuertz already. You probably don’t wanna pitch Springer 2 days in a row. I’unno. It could get dicey if Anderson doesn’t have a strong start.
Of course, Anderson will have a strong start tomorrow, so no big deal.
I just remembered I love Eric Chavez.
by Joey C. on Apr 15, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call!!!
can’t stand either. dude is probably a sox fan.
i was wrong to do that stuff
by jaylikewise on Apr 15, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game title...loved the recap.
How could you not be tired! We blew threw like 10 game threads.
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 12:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
through...
now who’s tired!
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3000+ comments?
Geezo.
Anyhow, from my vantage in the LF bleachers it looked like Holliday got pinched a couple of times by that ump. Confirm?
Very nice to see Buck hit the ball, and Crosby with a couple of decent at bats (to go with his shitty ones, but to be fair he is used to being an every day player)
We had some losers start the wave late in the game in the bleachers and it was sorta shouted down. Some guy was yelling that the wave cost us the game on Saturday. I said yeah that and Geren.
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Apr 15, 2009 12:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All three of the Mariner's games
could have gone the other way. That is not a team that scares me. The Mariners are not a good team.
If the first week of the season has shown anything, it’s that the division is there for the taking. The A’s will have a very good shot if they can avoid serious injury and get a little above league average starting pitching.
by RLangford on Apr 15, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Apr 15, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of Ziggy's "balls" tonight were definitely more in the zone than those "strikes"!
I was going to buy a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking, and then I thought: "What the hell good would that do?"
by Jackson23 on Apr 15, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday was not happy at all about those strikes.
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn't have been!
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow the A's got Boston's number at the Colliseum,
but, atlas, the Mariners seemed to have figured the A’s out after being the favourite punch bags in 2006.
by javaball on Apr 15, 2009 12:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Geren handled the bullpen perfectly
No need to use Gallagher. If you’re in a high leverage situation (tie game), you just keep throwing your best out there. He did and he won. If he needs the pen tomorrow, he can use Gallagher, Blevins, and Wuertz. But we can’t even know about tomorrow. He won tonight and that’s the only thing he could be focused on.
by RLangford on Apr 15, 2009 12:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got back from the game a little while ago, and still frozen
It was pretty pucking windy out there tonight, but all and all a good time. Seriously with that lineup how does Boston win 95 games or even 90? I’d be concerned. Other than Pedroia and Youk, they have no hitters who really scare you.
My buddy and I still are wondering why Geren decided to pinch run for Giambi once he reached third? After he passed on the move when Giambi was at first, we just assumed Davis was hurt, but then realized Geren may have been drunker than we were.
by Pucking Insane on Apr 15, 2009 12:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz?
He has a history of scare.
And from what folks watching figured, putting Davis in earlier would have risked some serious out of position fielders.
With 1 out and a runner at third, a fast runner might score on shallow flys
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
That whole 2-6 scares me: Pedroia, Ortiz, Youk, Drew, Bay. I’d trade that for Nomar, Giambi, Holliday, Cust, Chavez any day. And that’s if Nomar and/or Chavez is healthy and playing. But I’d chose Ellis, Cabrera, Suzuki, Sweeney, and Buck over Ellsbury, Lowell, Tek, and Greene. So, I’d reach the opposite conclusion as you: Boston’s lineup is top-heavy.
As for the Davis move: I think it’s because Geren wanted a runner who could score easily on a sac fly or any other ball in play. I might have done the same thing. The pen usage was not what I would have done though. Eveland should not have pitched to Youk again and maybe not Ortiz.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Apr 15, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh I like Ellsbury - he's a plus CFer. Position by position though
the Red Sox lineup is considerably stronger, as you’d expect given the disparity in payrolls.
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Shouldn’t Gallagher be the long guy? Since Eveland only went into the 5th, Geren could have avoided taxing the bullpen if he would have used Gallagher earlier, who needed the work anyway.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they're stretching Gallagher back out for the rotation, so yeah
theoretically he should be the long guy.
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not seeing any other prospective extended reliever in that 'pen right now. Questionable move.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I know it was one inning, but Gallagher came in and threw very well. Hitting 95MPH on the radar gun. Hitting his spots. How about skipping Outman’s turn, and move him to the bullpen today? A 5th Starter isn’t needed unit April 22nd.
by Colorado Fan on Apr 15, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see what Outman has done to make everyone want to move him back to the bullpen?
He cut his ridiculous haircut, he wore stirrups, he gave up three in 4.1 innings.
Ok, maybe the last could have been a bit better, but he’s only pitched 4.1 innings! Give the man some rope, seriously?
Plus, I don’t think I’ve seen in Gallagher this season what everyone else has. But maybe that’s just me.
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boston's lineup is still strong
Bay and Drew are both studs, but the key is the possible (likely? certain?) decline of Ortiz. That makes a huge difference. That’s going to be a brutal race in the AL East. And the odd team (teams?) out are going to suffer mightily.
by RLangford on Apr 15, 2009 12:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Ortiz has been a pivotal player for the Red Sox for the last few years. If he's suddenly
mediocre, as he appears to be, they could be in some serious trouble in that race for the East. They don’t have a player to replace his offensive production as far as I’m aware.
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion...
Looks like Ortiz was on the decline in April and May last season, but then he hurt his wrist and people called it a slump. He did turn it around a bit when he came back, but not anywhere nere his ‘07 or ’06 numbers. I think he’s done.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well his '03-'07 numbers are insane.
I think he’s declining, but there’s going to be a huge question mark over his career if he’s declined this fast – it points strongly to PEDs. I imagine he’ll bounce back sharpish to be a productive hitter this season, but he won’t approach his 1.000OPS numbers.
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.....
but did he have bacne?
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have bacne
but that’s just my sensitive skin.
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe keep that to yourself...
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
by travdog6 on Apr 15, 2009 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been thinking possible decline (plus wrist injuries)
but I think that part of what made Ortiz so dangerous was that he used to have Manny batting after him.
by OaklandSi on Apr 15, 2009 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering whether Hannahan comes up for tomorrow's game. If he does, do they
1) Put Chavez or Nomar on the DL
2) Send down a pitcher — Blevins or Gallagher
3) DFA Rajai or Crosby
I’d send down Blevins if they’re just not going to use him. He’s faced one batter this year, and walked him.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 15, 2009 1:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They might need Blevins if...
Anderson doesn’t go deep. I’d DFA Rajai or Crosby since neither has really done anything. Crosby at third is like Kingman not striking out.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DFA Crosby and Rajai
Call up Pennington and Denorfia.
Pennington can fufill Raj’s Speedy Pinch Runner role, Denrofia becomes the backup OF and Righty on the bench, and Pennington can play SS, 2B and 3B much, much better than Crosby, and he can’t hit worse than Crosby can.
I like Golf, but I'm not very good at it. For example, I have never gotten a Hole in One. But I did hit a guy, and that was way more satisfying. You're supposed to yell "FORE!", but I was too busy mumbling "There ain't no way that's gunna hit him." Whats Par for Hitting a Guy? One. If you Hit a Guy in Two, you're an Asshole. - Mitch Hedberg.
by Zonis on Apr 15, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think bringing anyone up aside an infielder is jumping the gun
We have’nt even played a dozen games yet.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That said I like the italian alot
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Italian too.
Rajai has speed and that’s about it.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has God too.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did that ever get anybody?
Besides their grave?
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Doolittle fan as well
But I think it will be a while before we see him.
To bad Raj is melting down he had an awesome spring…
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Doolittle too, but he probably needs a bit more seasoning.
I hope we see him in September because his spring was outstanding. If we see him sooner that would mean our DL woes are perpetual.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's going to be an infielder it has to Hanahan (as much as I hate to say it). Hope Nomar and Chavy's issues are short term.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus me too
crosses fingers and toes.
I’m going to the game tomorrow and I’m really curious what the lineups will look like for both teams, 6 AB’s- woof.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's my favorite part of the game...
It’s like a fantasy draft everyday. Do the players like having a different lineup everyday?
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see them DFAing Crosby - he can play all the infield positions (to a varying degree) and
cover in the corner outfield at a pinch. Sure he’s useless at the plate, but he provides a degree of flexibility. After tonight they really can’t afford to assign a pitcher!
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see him...
try to turn a double play from second last night and turn his glove the wrong way at third tonight?
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way it's a pitcher
Bullpen already too taxed to go to only 6 there. I think they might bite the bullet and DL Chavy.
by jasonthea on Apr 15, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New nickname for Buck (which totally won't stick)
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok I'm struggling to find a good picture, but D'Artagnan. It's the goatee and
longish hair along with the swishy swing that does it for me.
by OldhamA on Apr 15, 2009 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truck?
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WoBuck (walk-off Buck)?
That could be lame, or fitting. Let’s see if he can do it again.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bout' Shaggy?
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is kind of goofy and lanky
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he could use a bit of grooming
from the look he going tonight.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, the A's are NOT the Yankees. Grow that shit out and eat some sc(d)ooby snacks.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, what's your excuse for being up at 2 am?
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, temporarily unemployed. Technically I have a job but I don't start until the 27th.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
night time is the right time.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, I'm finishing my taxes
Messed up the first draft, had to reprint the beast.
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank yourself for only having one. ;)
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One beast
I actually have two beasts – some of you may have met them the last AN day, last year.
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1040ez is the only way to go. I think I'm giving too much away.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your lucky
I had several…
The joys of freelance.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB players have to file in every state they play in
At least that’s what I heard once, because their income supposedly was earned at each different stadium.
And I can tell you, the multi state income tax stuff is hard. NP Hard.
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were an MLB player I'd use my money to send a relative through school to be an accountant.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I would have bid the job of figuring out my taxes
At a rate larger than the return I received.
I’m thinking CPA for next year.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha. Freelance is a joy. If it weren't, free wouldn't be in the name.
Here’s a fun game, if you have somebody who does your taxes for you, ask him to show you the statute that says you have to legally declare your income.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you pay them by the hour, they'll be glad to show you!
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well.... I guess you'll be paying them forever....
because the statute doesn’t exist. Make it a prank call.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from my 1040
“Under penalties of perjury, I declare that I have examined this return and accompanying schedules and statements, and to the best of my knowledge and belief, they are true, correct, and complete.”
The New Mexico does not have the perjury bit. California does.
I suppose you play the game, run your chances.
by MobiusKlein on Apr 15, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know where you get this stuff,
but that’s just not true.
Of course the statute exists. It’s the entire Title 26, aka the Internal Revenue Code. If you have the patience, you can read the whole thing right here.
Here is the part defining taxable income.
And here is the Supreme Court case upholding the constitutionality of the federal income tax.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Apr 15, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how to do all the fancy linking.
I’ve done other research which was a direct result of watching this:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS266US268&q=freedom+to+fascism&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv&ei=Z0DmSczuB6G6sgP-lpnqAQ&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1#
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alaska District Court
in United States v. Rempel:
It is apparent …that the defendants have at least had access to some of the publications of tax protester organizations. The publications of these organizations have a bad habit of giving lots of advice without explaining the consequences which can flow from the assertion of totally discredited legal positions and/or meritless factual positions.
You can believe whatever you like, it’s no skin off my nose. But if you call up your tax accountant and “ask him to show you the statute that says you have to legally declare your income” he’s just going to point you to the Internal Revenue Code like I did.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Apr 15, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm cool w/ the long hair, he just looked like he's been away from the showers for a week.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think so
but on a side note they have almost completed the genome-
apparently there’s evidence they could have had command of language.
As in more than Ooga.
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
Bobby Crosby = ground-out triple play...
by brian.only on Apr 15, 2009 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way the game started out, few people would have predicted the A’s would go scoreless for ten innings and still win.
Extra-innings is a very unlikely outcome for any game, regardless of the score after the first inning.
But seriously, good writeup, Go A’s!
(I’ve just been doing too much statistics homework lately!)
by whomeverwiz on Apr 15, 2009 2:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In retrospect...
All those italics make me seem like a dick.
So I take it back.
Really, I enjoy your writeups, I was just failing at being funny.
by whomeverwiz on Apr 15, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Italics make every comment better, or more interesting... maybe I just like it when people use italics (because I'm not sure how to use them). Punctuation is king, like Henry the VIII.
by DanielSteven on Apr 15, 2009 2:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
I’m not sure how to use them either. I just to italicize the word any but somehow the </em> tag got away from me…
(I used preview this time)
by whomeverwiz on Apr 15, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arrgh!
I just meant to italicize the word any.
Ha.
by whomeverwiz on Apr 15, 2009 2:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's cool
I was writing it based on it going 12, but I could’ve just said “an extended period.”
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by Flashfire on Apr 15, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so nice to wake up to this news.
alaska A residing in colorado. (for now)
by ak_A on Apr 15, 2009 4:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was in bed around the 10th inning listening to the game
but fell asleep and woke up for the wrap up…how nice to hear them say that the A’s would go for the sweep today!
by OaklandSi on Apr 15, 2009 6:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What a divine wind
i felt like a popsicle.
Great, though weird, win.
by Brian in 317 on Apr 15, 2009 6:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
or is it, like, everytime i turn on the radio i hear that Bobby Crosby has bobbled/dropped/botched another play. he seems to be a liability in the field just as much as he was a liability at the plate last year.
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Apr 15, 2009 7:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bob might want you to stop turning on the radio
It’s the power of voodoo.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 15, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I left the radio on
when I fell asleep in the eighth. Awakened by a racket of a commercial in the eleventh and heard the end of the game. Cheered aloud and startled Stripey the cat. Enjoy the day game everyone.
by LibrariAN on Apr 15, 2009 7:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe you should sleep until the ninth of every game
that way we might win out the season!
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Apr 15, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I nodded off after the 8th
Only to hear a ruckus and vaguely comprehending the A’s winning – YAY! And just a few hours until I am in my seat at the game- YAY! YAY!
Great win.
Enjoy the game
by DCinWC on Apr 15, 2009 8:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was there through all twelve last night
which is unusual in itself, not because we’d ever leave early, but more because we were in time for first pitch.
Here are my observations of the game (authors note – was not drunk this time, just very, very cold):
1. I thought Geren managed the game pretty well.
Certainly better than ‘God amoungst Managers’ Francona. I mean, why pull Matsuzaka, unless he’s hurt? You’re only two runs down, trust your starting pitcher to settle down and give you a few more innings, eh? And Papplebon only worked one? IIRC, he didn’t pitch on Monday, so what’s his problem? The A’s weren’t making great contact, the heart of the order was coming up, surely you want your best relief pitcher then?
2. Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure.
And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants! After his error at third, he should, in my opinion, have been charged with another one later on that inning, and then he made a pop up look like the hardest thing in the world later on in the game.
I’m not advocating running around like the sky is falling in, as, well, he should get better as he plays more there, but wow. Could be an interesting couple of days whilst the welds on Chavez’ bionic shoulders are fixed. He did look better at second base the other day, but who knows? Maybe that was luck?
3. West Coast Red Sox fans are amoungst the most classless individuals I’ve met.
Now, I’m not going to moan about them coming to the colliseum and being loud and all that, because, frankly, it’s not their fault they outnumber the A’s fans, is it?
But, when someone turns up at the bottom of the seventh and demands you move out of ‘their" seats, well, wtf? I mean, ok, I have no problem with people being late to games, at all, but I feel like if you turn up nearly two and a half hours after the start, you kinda abrogate any claim you had on sitting in the Exact Seats you’d bought. It’s not as if the stands are so full you can’t move somewhere nearby?
And to wave your tickets in someone’s face and say “these are our seats, move along”, kinda makes my blood boil. Is it to much even to say please? Incidentally, a similar thing happened last year. Unbelievable.
Still, the A’s take their money, so I guess it’s a good thing.
4. Woo! What a win!
I got back in at a half past midnight, but still, totally worth it. Am going back today, anyone else in the cheap seats?
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if you buy a ticket, the seat is yours for the duration.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Apr 15, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree
I think if you turn up over two hours late, you have to sit where you can, honestly. Especially if it’s not especially busy.
And even that is no excuse for being downright rude and unapolegetic about it. I think that got under my skin more than anything else.
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That kind of defeats the point of having assigned seating.
if I pay for a ticket, and when I go to sit there somebody else is in it, they had better damn well move.
As you said, the stands weren’t that full, so you could have very easily moved somewhere nearby.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Apr 15, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
I mean, yeah. Not to make it a sob story, but we’d moved from our seats to let a bunch of children sit all together, within range of their guardians / parents wtvr. We hadn’t actually “upgraded” – we’d in fact moved back a row.
I think my point is, you turn up two hours late, you should leave your demanding attitude at the door.
but yes, I do take your points, too
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with WC on this.
“Upgrading” your seat is something you do at your own risk. If the guy with the ticket shows up it’s your responsibility to get out and either go back to your own seat or upgrade somewhere else. Sure, it would be nice if they were polite about it, but if they’ve got the tickets it’s their seats.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Apr 15, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed out loud.
Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure.
And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!
"If I was any more warm and fuzzy I’d be lint." -grover
by baseballgirl on Apr 15, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pulled dice K
because the WBC basically wore out his arm— Francona is actually kicking himself for using him twice already— they may be in some trouble with that rotation.
by jasonthea on Apr 15, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes --
another thing I found out I was wrong about after writing it.
still find the paplebon thing a bit odd, mind. but like, wtf do i know?
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree, with a caveat
I agree with others that your ticket entitles you to your seats (that’s why they are assigned), but I certainly agree about the rudeness factor. My friends and I had splurged on nicer seats than usual last night, and we had not 1, not 2, but 4(!) group of people try to come kick us out of “Their” seats. Each time, it turned out that they had misread their tickets, and were in the wrong section or row. However, the people who were nice about it (“Oh, I think we might have seat 6. Let me look at my ticket. . .”) were not a problem, compared to those who were rude (“No way buddy, WE have seat 8!”), and then offered no apology when they were shown that they were off by two sections.
I guess I just think everyone should start out civil, even if they really think people are in their seats, and people who are not in their seats should understand that those aren’t what they paid for, and they may have to give them back.
by el generico on Apr 15, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
we had some nice people ask us to move out of our two dollar seats today.
we moved.
gladly.
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi
He’s gotta be tired today. I wish our fielders would stop throwing balls in the dirt at him. He might have been player of the game, and he had 1 error and 0 hits.
by Colorado Fan on Apr 15, 2009 8:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh yes
good point. He did make a great diving play at first, too
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That high infield fly that Crosby took - poison ants indeed.
Enjoy the game
by DCinWC on Apr 15, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Athletics On Demand
i am at work and wont be able to catch this on TV, but will an on-demand option be available tonight?
The Not-So-Casual Fan
by rktse on Apr 15, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
by 'this' i mean today's game, sorry
The Not-So-Casual Fan
by rktse on Apr 15, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All games go "on demand" until the start of the next one
Enjoy the game
by DCinWC on Apr 15, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Provided they were on TV in the first place
Enjoy the game
by DCinWC on Apr 15, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
last post
Are A’s games going to be available via On Demand?
A’s games, including select games in HD, will be available on Comcast Digital Cable On Demand for approximately 24 hours after the conclusion of the game. There will also be additional programming and exclusive features available On Demand during the season.
How do I locate the A’s On Demand?
Tune to Comcast Digital Cable On Demand Channel 1: “Sports & Fitness” | “Comcast SportsNet” | “A’s”
Enjoy the game
by DCinWC on Apr 15, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool thanks!
i guess i will have to avoid the game day links today then and wtach my game when i get off work!
The Not-So-Casual Fan
by rktse on Apr 15, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a little off-topic (few days late)
are the a’s now wearing their home green-and-yellow batting helmets in away games?
by the federer express on Apr 15, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So far
Maybe it’s a little way to cut costs instead of having two different batting helmets. Wouldn’t surprise me.
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by Flashfire on Apr 15, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sporting more variations of their gear would actually increase merchandising sales
The Not-So-Casual Fan
by rktse on Apr 15, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I saw black helmets on Sunday
by Future Ed on Apr 15, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the four horsemen of the apocalypse?
It's never too soon to jump to conclusions
by alea iacta est on Apr 15, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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