MLB EI vs MLB.tv (for out of area fans)
I've lived in the midwest and had MLB EI for 3 seasons now. For the most part I like it. My big issue is with MLB and their dumb-ass over-extended media territories, but that's not DirecTV's fault, as is a subject for another thread. For reasons that don't really involve MLB EI I am considering switching from DirecTV to cable. Anyway...
So... pro & cons comparing the two?
I've read that MLB.tv's quality gets better and better every year. I have an HP Media Center PC and want to hook my 37" HD LCD TV to it to watch the games. I've done some research and it seems easy enough.
What can I expect in terms of picture quality? I know that televisons and monitors don't operate the same way, though I read one place that LCD is better for this set-up than other types of televisions. Will I be stuck with a picture that is too small to enjoy from across the room?
Re: hook-up... It seems than an S-video cable with an audio cable plugged into the headphone jack is the easiest way to go. What connection set-up do some of you use? I don't need to take advantage of the absolute best cost-is-no-object picture quality that my tv can provide... because cost is part of the equation... but I don't want some fuzzy grainy picture that is so bad that I won't watch games, either.
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Speaking as a MLB.TV user...
… you have to go into it knowing it won’t all be sunshine and lollipops. The regular package provides a pretty poor picture. I occasionally hook it up to my HD TV via s-video, and you can see what’s going on, but Travis Buck usually looks like the blob got him. And, as we all know, once the blob has you…
Anyway, I momentarily had the premium package a year or 2 ago, but didn’t find it to be any great shakes. The picture quality was certainly better, but lag issues popped up all the time. It’s one thing to have to refresh the video window once or twice during a game; it’s quite another to watch a 35-minute Mark Ellis at-bat… that only involved 4 pitches.
The big pro for me is the on-demand aspect of MLB.TV. While I prefer to watch the games live, sometimes it’s not feasible, so it’s nice to have the ability to check it out at my leisure.
I should point out that I’ve never had the Extra Innings package, so I can’t really compare the 2; however, I find that the viewing experience is much, much more enjoyable when the game is in true HD versus what MLB.TV can offer you. Conversely, if picture quality is less important to you than being able to watch nearly every game at your discretion, then the choice seems pretty clear.
Hope this helped. I’m so hopped up on coffee right now that this could very well be completely indecipherable.
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by Joey C. on Apr 1, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been using a Slingbox for a while now
though with Comcast’s switch, I have to figure out how to get my Slingbox to control the DTA box, or I will only be able to watch 1 channel.
And since I am going to Study Abroad in Australia, I might get MLBTV just because of the time difference
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by Zonis on Apr 1, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Australia!
That’s awesome! Where are you going and what are you studying? How long will you be there? MLB.TV is great when overseas. You’ll need it for those 3 AM games.
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by WaddellCanseco on Apr 1, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What broad are you gonna study? nice gals in aus, ex g/f lives there.
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by ak_A on Apr 1, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i signed up for mlb.tv this year
i haven’t tried it out yet due to the limited number of pre-season games being covered, but i would think the premium level subscription will work fine if you’re on a high-speed internet connection and you connect with the ethernet cable rather than using wireless.
as far as the set-up, if your tv has HDMI inputs and your computer is a desktop with some open ports, i would recommend getting a DVI connection to install on your CPU and then getting an HDMI-DVI cable. that gives HD quality picture. for sound stick with what you’re doing with the headphone cable. if you go the DVI-HDMI route, DON’T buy a Monster brand cable because they are absurdly over priced for no reason. if you could find a HDMI card to install on your PC, that would be even better because you could just use a HDMI cable, transmits audio in addition to video.
try here for HDMI-DVI cables and try here for HDMI cables. i bought my HDMI cable there and i’ve had no issues. and i have no idea what the difference is between the different grades or whatever of HDMI cables, but i remember googling it and finding the answer quickly. good luck.
by jlanning17 on Apr 1, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
egghead
That’s not an insult. egghead.com is fairly priced for cables. but you have you bulk up your order as shipping can sometimes sting.
by rollierollieOxenfree on Apr 1, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what outputs you are dealing with.
Depending on the outputs and inputs on your computer and TV you could have a great picture or a miserable one. To get a good quality picture on your TV your computer needs a digital output of DVI or HDMI, and your TV will need either of the corresponding inputs. If the computer has a DVI out and the TV only an HDMI, thats not a problem, because you can just buy a simple converter cable or adapter online.
The S-video cable limits your resolution to 720×480i which will look awful on your TV, or like Joey said, Tbuck will look like a blob. The only limiting factor when using one of those digital cables will be your TV’s optimal resolution and the particular feeds being sent out from MLB.TV for the specific game you are watching. So if your are you using MLB.TV platinum and receiving 800k feed or HD feed which are coming in at resolutions greater than 480p the action is going to look just like it does on your computer monitor. The only adjustment that needs to be made is setting your computer’s video output to something manageable for your TV because many monitors are set to a higher resolution than TV’s can support (probably 1024×768) .
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by KMoAsFan on Apr 1, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Comcast
So, being a baseball fan I really wanted the EI package last year. I live in Oakland so for me it was about seeing other teams play – not just the A’s. So I ordered the package from Comcast and they didn’t carry any of the games in HD. I looked on the EI package online and it listed a bunch of HD games, like one a day. So I called Comcast and they were like “no, you don’t get the HD games, we don’t carry them.” So I cancelled. Unbelievable.
So, I’m just going to get the MLB.TV this season and do my best. Can’t be no worse than stupid Comcast and much cheaper as I already have the cables.
Does anybody know if this has changed with Comcast? I HATES them.
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by Buck Turgidson on Apr 1, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a homemade mac mini DVR hooked up to my TV
Just as jlanning17 said, buy a hdmi/dvi (I prefer monoprice) cable (hdmi to TV, dvi to your video card) or if you have a hdmi/hdmi cable purchase a female hdmi to male dvi connector.
Be aware that DVI does not carry audio from your hdmi. Depending on your TV, for audio, I use a stereo 3.5mm to 2 rca (y-connector) into my component input (rca red/white). Make sure you match your hdmi and composite (eg. input 3 hdmi & input 3 composite/component).
If you want to get a true TV experience, on your computer, change your resolution to 1280 × 720 for true widescreen 720p (16:9), otherwise it’ll look a little funny at the standard widescreen resolution 1280 × 768 (16:10).
by rightbackin on Apr 1, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry forgot to mention I LOVE my MLB.tv subscription
I have the premium subscription and the new 2009 player (beta), when available, is pretty awesome. You have access to every game from every team (sometimes it’s blacked out live, but the archive comes up later) for that year, so it’s a great deal for hardcore baseball fans. I know $110 is a lot, but I feel its pretty worth it. I really wished all sports offered something similar.
Wow, I sound like an ad but I guess it’s the only option for me in Hawaii to watch A’s games. I don’t have DirectTV so I can’t compare the experience.
by rightbackin on Apr 1, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, more info and questions, but I feel like I'm getting closer...
First, thanks to all for your help. I’m going to try and answer several items here with one post…
Computer: I have an RCA-type outlet called “Composite Video” and a 4-pin S-video outlet. No DVI or HDMI outlet. I do have one open port. For audio I have the headphone connection and a digital audio out RCA-type plug.
HD LCD TV: The manual recommends setting the PC graphics card to 1024×768. I have DVI-PC and DVI-RGB inputs available, though it seems like DVI-PC might be the better choice.
Obviously, it seems I don’t want a S-video-to-DVI cable as that would defeat the prupose. I should get a DVI card. Do they make DVI adapter cards that I can put in that empty slot that still use the existing graphics card, or would I be better off getting a new full-blown graphics card with a DVI output? Can anyone recommend something either way, keeping in mind that I can’t do anything outrageously expensive.
There is also a PC/DTV audio input, which I presume should connect to the digital audio out from the PC.
Thoughts?
Thank you all again.
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by UncleLeo on Apr 2, 2009 1:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You have a lot of options....
I think your TV accepts a VGA direct input so maybe try that and connect your audio.
If you don’t mind, what is your computer model and TV? Maybe I can get a better idea of what you’re working with.
by rightbackin on Apr 2, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The info...
Computer: HP – model Media Center PC m7250n
TV: LG – model DU-37LZ30 – 37" LCD
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by UncleLeo on Apr 2, 2009 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
…I do not see a VGA input on the back, though I only want this to watch A’s games. I still need my regular computer monitor hooked up at all times, so I am less inclined to go that route anyway.
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by UncleLeo on Apr 2, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the late response, I was pretty busy the past few days
I looked up your specs for your TV and your computer. Using these photos and specs, let me clarify what you’re working with and your choices:
1. VGA
2. S-Video
3. Composite video out (RCA – Yellow, Red, White)
1. VGA
Going through this choice, you will need a VGA to DVI adapter to connect to your TV. This adapters are fairly cheap (you can find them for under $5, don’t spend much on this) and widely available. Maybe ask a computer-savvy friend for one as they come with most new computers and all new video cards. Your video card has only 1 vga output so you will have to manually switch from your monitor to your TV.
2. S-video
I have never owned or worked with S-video on computers, but I assume you can just hook them and it’ll work just fine. As some people have stated, it will limit to 480i, which is just standard definition TV.
3. Composite (Yellow)
Like S-video, this is another standard definition picture quality (more specifically, enhanced definition 480p – maximally DVD quality)
These are all VIDEO options, you will need to split your audio from your speaker or headphone output of your computer, use the y-connector suggestions from my earlier post.
Quality wise, VGA will probably be your best choice, but most difficult. Since you have only a single output it may be a hassle to constantly switching your TV and computer monitor, so you may wish to upgrade it (if you feel confident, it’s not too hard, probably an hour or so of your time). I’d recommend buying an additional video card. Your configuration says you have 1 PCI card slot open, you can find some here. Note it’s PCI (not PCI-Express or PCI-e). When you install, depending on what card you buy, you may need more room. If you don’t use dial-up, take out the modem pci card.
by rightbackin on Apr 5, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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