03*13*09 DLD: Let's celebrate!
by gigglingone on Mar 13, 2009 9:48 AM PDT
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PrintIt's FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wahoo!!!!!
To celebrate, let's take a look at what's going on in the world this weekend:
- 21st Annual Ostrich Festival, Chandler, Arizona
- SXSW '09, Austin, Texas
- Flushing Walleye Festival, Flushing, Michigan
- OpusFest, Denver, Colorado
- Chocolate Festival, Grapevine, Texas
- Handbell Festival, Bay Minette, Alabama
- Crane Festival, Monte Vista, Colorado
- Salsa Festival, Liverpool, UK
If none of those sound good to you, maybe you should go where I'm going.... :)
Happy Friday everyone. It's Dump Time. :)
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I wanna be one of the ones on the bed
that are…dancing horizontally…that he stabs concurrently with a spear, thus completely overloading the phallic centric imagery.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Larry Davis back?
Losing this team would be a huge failure for this city and an affront to Oakland’s great sports legacy.
I'd vote for the chocolate festival,
but then I’d have to be in the one place worse than where I am.
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Press Release from Lew Wolff Regarding Oakland A's Venue
Press Release from Lew Wolff Regarding Oakland A’s Venue
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March 13, 2009
STATEMENT BY OAKLAND A’S MANAGING PARTNER LEWIS WOLFF REGARDING OAKLAND A’S VENUE:
"We have fully exhausted our time and resources over the years with the City of Oakland, dating back to previous A’s ownership.
We recognize conditions have not changed. Letters to Major league Baseball offer nothing new or of any real substance. Outside stimulation to have us continue to play in an aging and shared facility may generate press and "sound-bite" opportunities, but do not provide any tangible alterations in the circumstances we face.
We understand the facility continues to cost the city of Oakland and Alameda County millions of lost dollars per year. Sadly, the business and corporate base of the city of Oakland was very limited when we purchased the team and has eroded since. Our attendance and low number of season ticket holders (both one of the lowest in Major league Baseball) also continues to decline; even when our on-field performance produced play-off participation.
We appreciate the sincere interest of Mayor Ron Dellums, Supervisors Scott Haggerty and Gail Steele and local citizen Sherman Balch, as the very few people that have offered encouragement and in-depth understanding about our situation.
Our goal and desire for the organization is to determine a way to keep the team in Northern California. That goal has not changed.
We have no interest in covering old ground again, as we need to move forward in finding a future home for our team."
Losing this team would be a huge failure for this city and an affront to Oakland’s great sports legacy.
{sad panda}
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about you,
but I’m ready for new ownership that will embrace Oakland once again in this new economic world. Lew can’t even acknowledge that it’s possible that things might have changed? It’s too bad we have an owner who has already made up his mind and then closed it.
Losing this team would be a huge failure for this city and an affront to Oakland’s great sports legacy.
but things haven't changed, have they?
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Yeah, I'd say they have,
at least from this particular owner’s perspective.
They can no longer count on real estate to finance the new park. The efforts of the last few years to move the team have failed. I personally think it’s a mistake to so quickly unilaterally dismiss the overtures. It does make things clearer and that, I think, is respectable from the Wolff. He’s not Art Modell or the Irsay brothers, it would seem.
But doesn’t a friendly mayor mean anything in Oakland?
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me translate
"I’m looking ready for new ownership that is:
1) smart and rich enough to still have billions of dollars
2) dumb / gullible enough to pour it down a rathole"
Until recently, that would have been the US government. There is one organization, though, that still FUNDS the US government. Maybe Lew should sell to them.
Say hello to the Beijing A’s.
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by eastcoasta'sfan on Mar 14, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions
So much for celebrating
Now I’m sad. I was really hoping Lew and Company would reconsider Oakland. Damnit.
Hey!
He looks just like this rapper I saw in a club earlier this week…
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
shut your mouth!
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems kind of like a knee-jerk reaction to Dellum's letter
which was just a political bs move to make it seem like he tried.
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The media responds
Or at least Ray Ratto, my favorite member of the media, responds. He just posted on his relatively-new SFGate blog, saying that the release speaks “to Lew’s inability to get it after all these months.”
Let’s just not endure the pretense that there is a useful alternative available, or that this is the fans’ fault, or the media’s fault, or anyone else’s fault. He tried to remake the fan base by making the A’s the perpetually lovable underdog, and that strategy has its obvious limitations. He tried to draw more people by lowering expectations, which is ridiculous. He tried to muscle a stdaium withoput muscle, which is laughable. And the economy face-planted, which is not his fault.
I guess the Chron doesn’t have anybody copy editing these blogs. But I appreciated Ray’s general disdain for the whininess of the release. His response to the second paragraph:
What? It’s the media’s fault? It’s the letter-writers’ fault? Are you joking? Are you dim? People care about your team and its future, which is why they write letters. “Press and ‘sound-bite’” opportunities are the same thing. Would you rather that nobody gave a damn so you could do whatever flailing you need to do in private, and still end up getting nowhere?
His response to the third paragraph:
The attendance drop is entirely and utterly the A’s fault, because they are the entrepreneurs, and blaming the customers for not falling in love with a product is, well, stupid. Not to mention disingenuous. The A’s have worked the “our stadium stinks” angle so much that they have convinced people not to come. They tarped the upper deck and didn’t get the desired ticket-scarcity effect. They put out two rosters in 2007 and 2008 so completely anonymous that there was nobody to care about, and they have traded most of their name players as part of a strategy to repopulate their prospects list, which while it may help with prospects doesn’t really work as a lure.
In other words, the attendance problems are entirely of the A’s making, and using it as an excuse for giving up on Oakland is cheap. It’s “We did this and it’s your fault” argument, and it works as well as Jim Cramer’s attempted rebuttals to Jon Stewart on Thursday’s “Daily Show.”
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by rubin sierra on Mar 13, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
The hell it is.
Two losing seasons after HOW MANY winning seasons, playoff appearances, a division title, and an ALCS berth?
All the A’s have done for the last decade is win games and put out one of the most competitive teams in baseball year in and year out, and yet a pair of seasons where they don’t perform is the cause for this? Where were the sold out crowds in 2006?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
You are not wrong.
But I do feel the need to point out that (my belief is) Wolff and Co. have artificially and purposefully reduced attendance figures by:
They did this, not for any “create ticket scarcity” nonsense, but to help their case that baseball is not sustainable in Oakland. They have created their wish. The A’s were near or above average attendance figures in the AL until Lew arrived.
I have *never* gone to a game and been unable to purchase a $13 bleacher ticket.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
And this year there are an extra 4000 $2 wednesday tickets available
and they lowered prices on a bunch of sections.
and they’re offering a 4 ticket, 4 meal package for 50 bucks.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Yay?
I applaud those first two things. The Wednesdays should never have changed in the first place, and the ticket prices should never have been raised as much as they were.
As for the Family Deal, I’m a vegan and don’t eat hot dogs, so Lew clearly doesn’t care about me!
Most teams are doing something like that this year
for fairly obvious reasons.
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But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, whatever.
Clearly Lew hates you guys and is simply trying to move out of Oakland to piss you off.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I KNEW IT!
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a terribly useful answer
Lew wants to move so he can make himself and John Fisher another mountain of money. He doesn’t “hate” me or Oakland fans; he just believes a more lucrative path lies somewhere else.
What, do you think he’s doing all of this just so he can spend more on payroll? It is to laugh.
Funny thing is, he already has made a mint, without going anywhere, by virtue of buying in ahead of the most massive appreciation of franchise values in baseball history. Some now given back to the Great God Greenspan, presumably, but not all. Not hardly.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm as cynical as the next A's fan,
but I’ve got to believe if making money is Wolff’s primary interest, there has to be (or at least there was three years ago) more lucrative things than buying a baseball team.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I doubt that. Short of investing in Calgary oil futures circa 2004, it’s been about the best investment around for the last 10 years…
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
Forbes in 2008
estimated that the A’s were worth $323 million, while the Wolff bought them in 2005 for $180 million. Granted, Forbes numbers were before the Fremont deal fell apart and they turned in such a dismal season in 2008 and the economy went to hell…but…I stand corrected. That’s huge.
Maybe the Wolff is evil.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 14, 2009 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions
While some teams do make money
No good business man gets into sports team ownership to make a buck, at least that’s not the primary reason.
by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
But that's true almost everywhere
except the serious attendance titans like Boston and NYY. Atlanta, for example, has also fielded a perennial winner, moreso even than the A’s, and you can almost always get a walk up ticket there.
The A’s revenue problem in Oakland isn’t raw ticket sales, it’s corporate sales, luxury sales, and media contract dollars. The first two of those would improve in a new stadium in Oakland or anywhere else; the third is largely a function of the A’s pathetic marketing, and their conscious decision to alienate the existing fanbase.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
What we need are more luxury boxes...
(wait, I’ve heard this tune before, I think…)
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
...
(though it could be…)
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I myself findthe tought of Lew in hot pants
pretty cool. Sexy time?
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by somebodyelse on Mar 13, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That's some nice spin
but it doesn’t really contradict what Ratto said.
The facts are that the team drew 2 million+ (26-27K per game) every year from 2001-2005. That’s not great but it’s by no means terrible; it was just a hair below league average for those years. There was a small decline in 2006 and 2007 that wasentirely due to the reduced number of seats available for the most popular games. And a larger decline last year, which was the second straight year of the A’s fielding teams that were, quite frankly, just not much fun to watch. Wolff’s “even when our on-field performance produced play-off participation” sentence fragment is entirely disingenuous.
Look, we all understand the business motivation behind Wolff wanting to move to the south bay. What’s tiresome is the pretense that it’s about attendance, and specifically about the fans not being able to support the team in its current location. All the plans he’s presented have been for a stadium of something like 32K seats. So they’d get average attendance of maybe 10-15% more than they were drawing in Oakland, pre-tarp. Does anyone really believe that they couldn’t achieve a 10 % increase with a newer stadium in Oakland? Really?
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Of course they could.
The point is, they won’t. The City of Oakland isn’t doing anything to help them stay, and it’ll take more than one letter written to prove otherwise.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
How do you know
that Oakland isn’t doing anything? Just like San Jose, or anyone else trying to woo the A’s right now, there will be no offers on the table publicly until there’s a helluva lot more discussion privately. Any city would be stupid to do otherwise.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
because this process has been going on for over 5 years
and cities cannot prevent “private” discussions from leaking.
Are you just unwilling to accept any argument that frees Wolff from guilt in any way.
Because Oakland is not willing, and has not been willing, to sacrifice to get the A’s to stay. Their position is reasonable (Oakland has plenty of other agenda items to work on and pay for) but your argument is just stupid.
“But what if they’ve had a secret Jack London stadium in the works for the last five years and are releasing it tomorrow1?1?”
LOL
The second sentence needs
a question mark…
And you think that every discussion about wooing a team
is posted on a blog or reported in the paper? Be careful for whom the stupid argument bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
so you're still claiming
that the city of Oakland has made some effort to keep Oakland, but has chosen not to publicize it?
Cuz based on the pathetic letter Dellums just put out, methinks he likes publicity, and will publicize even the most minimal effort he takes.
I’m pretty impressed by your extreme view. You can want the A’s to stay and believe that Lew is a profit-seeking businessman without holding to ridiculously vague and random claims that the city of Oakland has a top-secret plan for the A’s that goes beyond the pathetic letter they publicized so much.
While I agree with you on your views
If you’ve been around long enough, you’d know that FSU basically predicted this very outcome since Wolffish bought the club. Probably even before they officially took over. The only thing I’d say to him on that point is this… either way you’d find a way pick at it. If they “played” along with Oakland, you’d claim they only did it to sweeten the pot in SJ. And the fact is, you’d be right. At least now Wolff has basically made it clear, with no uncertain terms, he’s done looking for a new stadium in Oakland. He’s NOT going to drag the people there and the politicians through the ringer or give false hope. He’s simply telling them, no. Now he’s going to focus his efforts on the city that for years has been trying to lure them. He’s not going to play Oakland against them. He’s not even going to play Fremont against them.
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If they "played" along with Oakland, you’d claim they only did it to sweeten the pot in SJ. And the fact is, you’d be right. At least now Wolff has basically made it clear, with no uncertain terms, he’s done looking for a new stadium in Oakland. He’s NOT going to drag the people there and the politicians through the ringer or give false hope.
wolff can never win, everything he does has an ulterior motive and there are conspiracies everwhere.
if he attends games of the team he owns, if he expresses a desire to win more games, if he proposes a ballpark village north of the coliseum, if he buys land in fremont, if he develops a ballpark plan over like three years, if he suggests a ballpark location closer to bart after people complain about the mass transit problems with the original site, if he declares the fremont plan is dead…
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by xbhaskarx on Mar 13, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i forgot "if the front office trades veterans for prospects"
when that happens they’re trying to depress attendance in oakland, as if they really need to further justify the move and attendance isn’t low enough as it is.
now they sign some free agents and it’s because they’re trying to impress san jose by fielding a competitive team.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Exactly. He can't win whatever he's doing, so he might as well be honest.
Which he was.
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Point well made
And I appreciate the lack of belittling rancor in the post as well.
Lew tossing away the potential leverage of Oakland vis SJ is the oddest thing here. I mean, why not just smile and nod and keep the specter of Oakland alive in SJ’s mind? Wouldn’t have cost him anything, and it might’ve helped some day down the road when/if SJ stumbles.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a good question
If I spent the last 5+ years trying to deal with people I found difficult (and unfortunately I have) I’d come to a point where I threw up my hands and basically say “F-this, I’m done with you guys. Either put up or shut up. This double talk of what you say you’re going to do just doesn’t fly anymore.”
In a weird sort of way, that’s how I see this. Wolff started dealing with the Oakland political scene a year or so before buying the team trying to get it done and hit a brick wall. Oakland in a public way tried to get his attention one last time through the letter to Selig. They probably tried to talk directly to him first and failed. Since whatever private message Wolff presumably sent to Oakland wasn’t received, he made it more public.
Then again, I could just be projecting and he could just be off his rocker as some seem to think.
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… for he is the local authority on stupid, snarky internet argumentation.
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by The Dogfather on Mar 13, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I've made a months long effort now
to avoid replying to you, to try to avoid the rancor it always brings. Yet still, nearly every week brings another post from you with a diss, a put down, an image meant as an insult, or some other manifestation of this obsessive jihad. It’s tiresome.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boys and girls.........!
Can’t we all just get along?
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Getting along was proving very boring.
Chaos and antagonism actually seem to produce more fun.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
SCUMBAG!
HOT PANTS SUCK!
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Listen, you SOB.
I’ll cut you.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 14, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You exaggerate by number and characterization, of course, as befits your purpose.
It’s just that pomposity supplies an ample target — and when combined with extreme sensitivity to alternative viewpoints, it becomes occasionally irresistible. I’m guessing you see nothing aggressively “rancorous” in your “bell tolls” comment above, nor in referring to the management of this site in an earlier thread as a “caliphate?”
If you’re gonna hand it out so regularly, I think you need to be prepared to take it without blasting off on a tirade like the one that produced your recent refusal to engage. And if you don’t want opposition to your statements of Revealed Wisdom, you might consider writing actual diaries.
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by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't make comments meant solely as insults
I may disagree with vigor, but I don’t say things simply to be mean. Bell tolls was a response to OMGA’s “stupid argument” comment; “caliph” wasn’t meant insultingly at all, it just juxtaposed neatly with my use of the word pilgrim.
I’m not sensitive to people disagreeing; I’m sensitive to personal attacks lacking any other actual content.
Your comment above wasn’t opposition to any argument; it was an insult, nothing more. Stop it.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 14, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
1 — If, indeed, you will pursue a more conversational, less snarky and condescending tone in your entries hereabouts, you’ll have no problems from from the likes of me.
2 — Establishing a “caliphate” is the professed goal of the Taliban. It is a verry emotion-laden term — like, say, “jihad.”
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by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
No dice
- I can’t imagine what I was thinking when I said that replies with you spiral towards rancor.
- Posters aren’t supposed to be subject to personal attacks, period. What flaws you might find in my tone do not excuse your insults. Your offer of “IF you change your style, THEN I’ll stop insulting you” is bogus.
- The aims of the Taliban today don’t change 1400 years of the meaning of the word “Caliph.” I used it (not caliphate), together with “pilgrim,” to amusingly connote an emperor-subject relationship with Nico. The word in this context is no more inflammatory than czar, or kaiser, or (for that matter) Godfather. You are making an issue out of nothing.
- And so what? Nico’s response to me was something like “I agree with you.” Didn’t bother him, and it shouldn’t have. He and I have a fine online relationship, occasional disagreements notwithstanding. Why is this such a big deal for you?
- I’ll answer: because you’ve appointed yourself the truth-squadder of FSU posts whether they involve you or not. Which would be fine, except that
- You don’t rebut my arguments, you just insult and pick fights, so
- I tried not dialoguing with you. That didn’t work. I’ve now filed a CGV complaint against your original insult above. I doubt that’ll work either. So
- Fuck it. It’s high time to go to Croatan. A friend of mine is fixing up an old boat, and says he could use someone who knows how to rhyme things.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 14, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pls give The Primate our regards.
You needn’t indicate that any of them came from me. Maybe you can hatch a parody based on the Merchant of Venice?
And if you see Occam’s Razor lying around among his tools, pls ask him to let you borrow it.
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by The Dogfather on Mar 14, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Nico is caliph
because he is successor to the prophet Blez.
Etymologically, it works better than emperor or kaiser.
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take me with you!
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by rubin sierra on Mar 14, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Rancor: great word.
I have to give you a +1 for your usage there.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
How'd we get back to John Donne?
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's that leave Cabrera?
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 14, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll give you the 2nd part about his motivations, no question there
I do question how much money the team really made with that 26-27K (not terrible) while having to under-price tickets just to get a large (unterriblization) amount of people into the stadium? That to me is much less clear. Higher prices definitely lower attendence, but attendance coincides with money earned. If you’re selling $2 tickets, the ticket-boon from those sales means very little to the bottom line. The hope is that people who buy the $2 tickets will like the team enough to buy the real tickets/ticket price. It didn’t work.
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the oakland defense force often makes this argument...
The facts are that the team drew 2 million+ (26-27K per game) every year from 2001-2005. That’s not great but it’s by no means terrible; it was just a hair below league average for those years.
okay, but:
- how much money did the a’s make from those ~2 million tickets, compared to the league average?
- how many of those were season tickets, compared to the league average?
- how many of those were walk-up sales, compared to the league average?
certain people often say it’s disingenuous for the a’s to claim they are a small market team, because the bay area has a large population, so… how does oakland’s metropolitan area compare to league average?
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no response?
i think the last time devo made this argument, he didn’t reply either…
i would love either a response, or for people to never say this ever again.
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I'm not sure why you think this requires a response
I don’t know specifically about season tickets vs. walk-ups, or about what the best way of classifying the size of the A’s market (1/2 total bay area vs. Oakland metro area, or whatever).
But I already said “we all understand the business motivation behind Wolff wanting to move to the south bay.” He’ll obviously be able to make more money with a new facility (anywhere) than with the Coliseum, and most likely the increase will be even greater if that new facility is in San Jose than if it’s in Oakland. I’ve never tried to deny that, nor have FSU, devo, mikeA, etc., I think.
The point was that it’s cynical and disingenuous for the team to constantly use attendance as their main reason for why a move is supposedly necessary given that:
1. Clearly they’re not so much interested in getting more people out to the ballpark as in getting more money out of roughly the same number of attendees;
2. The actual attendance numbers in Oakland are a factor not just of the location, but also of the facility itself (a point that Wolff is quick to make in some contexts, and glosses over in others, as he finds convenient) and also, in recent years, to ownership’s own business decisions both direct and intentional ones (the tarp) and more indirect ones (poor marketing and media, and putting a bad and boring team on the field for the last two years).
In short, lack of fan interest is not an adequate or accurate explanation for why Wolff is so dead set on moving the team.
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Ray Ratto is a Dusty Baker-loving turd. He's one of the worst of the media's worst.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Awhile back I described him as something a little more extreme
got a x for it, which I understood at the time, but I feel no love for Ratto….at all.
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He's also pretty much full of crap in what was copied here, too.
It’s easy to make straw man arguments, and he’s become very good at that.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
The middle quote block
What? It’s the media’s fault? It’s the letter-writers’ fault? Are you joking? Are you dim? People care about your team and its future, which is why they write letters. "Press and ‘sound-bite’" opportunities are the same thing. Would you rather that nobody gave a damn so you could do whatever flailing you need to do in private, and still end up getting nowhere?
Wolff never says it’s the media’s fault. Not once. He also doesn’t say it’s the fault of letter writers (I assume he means fans who write to keep the team in Oakland). That’s not even CLOSE to what he said. So what Ratto did was basically make up a position Wolff didn’t take, an indefensible one, just so he could knock it down to make Wolff look bad.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
See, now I think you're making straw man arguments!
I don’t think Ratto was saying Lew said that. I think Ratto is trying to identify just who exactly Wolff is blaming (because he’s surely casting blame on someone).
He ABSOLUTELY said it
He’s asking rhetorical questions to imply that’s what Wolff is saying. It’s pretty clear Wolff is blaming the city (meaning city officials). Ratto knows that you can’t really argue with that point, so he invents some new ones just to shoot them down.
by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait...you slam Ratto as a Baker-loving turd
and he’s the one making straw man arguments?
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Anybody who argues that Baker is a good manager loses credibility. I question his ability to make sound judgments.
I don’t think it’s a straw man at all.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Rhetorically speaking
Straw man =/= no credibility. That’s a different argument you’re making.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, what?
YOU were the one who said I was making straw man arguments!
I can’t even fathom how you got this confused. The straw man argument is the one I quoted above. Him having no credibility is a completely separate issue. The hell you talking about?
by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
RR is just a...
wannabe Skip Bayless and will be unemployed soon once The Chron goes under….I hope SuSlu survives the fire and relocates down south with her hubby, Dan Brown at the Merc. We definitely need more A’s coverage down here!
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40
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by ST on Mar 13, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe you meant
STEPHEN! A! SMITH!
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I've read that about six times now
and I find myself getting more pissed off with each re-reading. What a total asshat.
Not many corporatons remain based in Oakland
teardrop for the old Morther’s cookies plant : (
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Mar 13, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
We have no interest in covering old ground again, as we need to move forward in finding a future home for our team.
/SMH
dick
Why waste money and resources on a perpetual dead-end?
This is a business and Lew is a businessman. The win-now attitude from the team this year suggests Lew wishes to make the team as attractive to San Jose and MLB as possible
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Mar 13, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Bruce Jenkins is on w/ Radnich discussing Lew Wollf's statement this morning
Already calling Wollf stupid for making that move, especially before Opening Day etc…
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
That's true. It might have been a bad PR decision
But he’s still right in everything he says.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
What money?
Even if the Dellums letter is entirely an empty, meaningless gesture – which it might well be – and not a sign of any real interest from Oakland in keeping the team, it wouldn’t cost Wolff anything to silently ignore it, or to make the usual noncommittal “if they come up with a concrete proposal, I’d be happy to listen” statement. I see no reason for this press release except as a “Fuck you” to the city of Oakland.
When the Fremont deal was scrapped, Wolff was quick to say that he didn’t have a backup plan in mind. Obviously, that was just another lie. His only interest is in San Jose.
black dirt live again
I think this is why I mentioned in a previous thread...
that I felt that Fremont was a ruse….economically and logistically it NEVER compared to the potential windfall of a San Jose deal. In reading “into” Lew’s response, he clearly comes off as pissed that the City of Oakland is continuing the topic of the A’s staying in Oakland….it muddy’s his waters in SJ and makes him look like the bad guy. Unfortunately, this type of response does the same.
Lew, you had mentioned that after the Fremont deal fell through, you were going to take a month to re-evaluate…..to just concentrate on your exciting young team and the beginning of the new 2009 campaign. What is up? Why get into a heated public pissing match with the City of Oakland? Your team is still plays there….your fans are still from there…..why bite the hand that feeds you?…….at least for now.
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A $24 million dollar ruse?
Seems like an awful lot of money to throw away.
Who was this sultan of sock, this hero of hosiery, this stalwart of shinwear? Ah, Wimberly — Corey Wimberly. -Uni Watch
That money's not been thrown away
It was spent on land that Lew and Fisher still own. Land which will be more valuable some day int he future, regardless of what happens with an A’s ballpark.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
In which case
people would be pissed that he’s spending all his time with SJ instead of giving Oakland a real shot. This way he’s clear in his motives. Like it or not.
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I echo the many voices above, unsurprisingly
“How dare Oakland attempt to keep its team in town” is yet another needless affront from Wolff. It’s clear that’s what he thinks…to say it over, and over, and over again serves only to drive down the local fan support as has been Wolff’s MO since he first joined the franchise. Fuckin asshole.
Be interesting to see whether Lew continues to show up prominently at games this year as he has in the past. Because I’m gonna boo the hell out of him at every chance, and I’m guessing there’ll be many otehrs joining in a full-throated chorus of disgust.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i bet lew continues to show up, how loud can 500 people be? i’m sure he’ll be able to hear every word you say during middle of the week games.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
I'm looking forward to that
except I think that he’ll stop showing up much.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
"I’m gonna boo the hell out of him at every chance"
How is Lew going to sleep at night?
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 13, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
"How is Lew going to sleep at night?"
On a soft comfy pile of money, surrounded by many beautiful women.
Lew clearly enjoys playing the role of the beloved true fan owner, right there in the seats. While I don’t imagine for a second that my disdain will change his plans a whit, I do believe that being booed at games will deprive him of some small part of that enjoyment. Derision is a price every owner pays when he takes his team away in search of riches. Lew doesn’t get a pass on that just because he looks like Clarence the Angel.
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm not suggesting you're necessarily saying this (show up prominently, playing the role, etc.)
but why do so many people seem to think wolff attending a’s games is part of an act?
what if he doesn’t really care what the 4,000 fans on a cold and windy tuesday night think, maybe he just enjoys watching his baseball team?
we’ll see if he keeps showing up if/when the a’s finally get a new ballpark.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
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by The Dogfather on Mar 13, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Give that cartoon robot a prize!
In man's evolution he has created the cities and the motor traffic rumble
But give me half a chance and I'll be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Mar 13, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
San Jose almost seems like a slam dunk at this point..
Radnich has been talking about it all morning. been looking for a link.
of course this could be more bait for Oakland……
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
People are angry, and I guess I understand
But I don’t see where Wolff is wrong.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions
I agree.
Oakland ain’t gonna happen, as much as I wish it would. And it sure ain’t gonna happen just because Ron Dellums woke up one day and wrote a letter saying he wanted it to. Saying you want to do something and actually doing it are two completely different things – and Dellums has a pretty bad track record of actually making things happen in Oakland. Wolff has been down this path before and he’s a businessman – he’s not going to want to make that mistake again.
Who was this sultan of sock, this hero of hosiery, this stalwart of shinwear? Ah, Wimberly — Corey Wimberly. -Uni Watch
Dellums' comments were kinda like Beane's efforts to sign Giambi before
The gesture was there to appease people, but no way in hell it was actually going to happen.
by thejd44 on Mar 13, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Well said
I definitely agree that Dellums is not the guy to get it done, and that saying and doing are two different things. I find that my heart really wants them to stay in Oakland, but I can’t wrap my head around how to do that. The only feasible spot is the Coliseum parking lot, and due to the needs of the Arena, I can’t see that happening. I can’t see Oakland as a good business decision for the A’s, as much as it’s the right emotional decision for me.
by el generico on Mar 13, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel like you are right
but it just doesn’t seem like it makes a lot of sense to say it in that way. My main concern is that the team stay in N. CA, and don’t really have a preference in Fremon/Oakland/SJ/wherever (unless they could figure out how to make them the Fresno A’s, but I digress). But when I read his statement, I just felt the whole time like it was really harsh and didn’t add value to anything. If you really just want to stay in N. CA, it seems like the appropriate response is “while we have tried and not been successful before, we are open to any ideas”. If the city is not asking for anything from the team right now, why would Lew ever care what they want to do?
From what I have heard and read here, it does seem like the city’s letter is little more than a pipe dream, if it doesn’t hurt Lew and the team in any way, why stop them? The only reason I can think of is if Lew feels this causes Bud to not want to push the T-Rights issue while Oakland is in the game, but I can’t imagine that couldnt be worked around.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
I'm very surprised at the response,
but it really seems to stem from Oakland / East Bay residents more than anything else.
To me, Oakland had there chance before Fremont and screwed that up. For the Lew to reconsider AGAIN, would be like crawling back to an old ex who cheated on you (/w Al Davis no less) and say you were wrong….
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40
"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi
by ST on Mar 13, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob Bowen was placed on waivers...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/13/SPNR16E6T3.DTL
Who’s going to back up Suzuki?
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
I meant to say, who's going to back up Suzuki when Powell is hurt?
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
Powell has averaged enough games played per year that he can handle the demanding
schedule of the A’s back-up catcher.
Bad spellers of the world untie.
6?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
yeah thats about right
for both the average games Powell will play a year and how many games the back-up catcher will play for the A’s
Bad spellers of the world untie.
We just need to arrange Suzuki's replacement,
y’know for when he dies on the field in two years time.
Whoa....on the field news!
FiRe Lou Wolf NoW!!!!!!!11
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Mar 13, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
why in the HELL didn't we take James Skelton?
Powell is better than Skelton? Really?
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Mar 13, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
if he's healthy?
Yes.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I'm not sure of that
Though he probably is better defensively. I think I’ve heard Skelton is a little lacking defensively.
by thejd44 on Mar 14, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
This is obviously...
… a move designed to avoid the conflict that will clearly arise from Bowen having Orlando’s jersey number.
I just remembered I love Eric Chavez.
I'm going to South by South West on Wednesday
for the music part. I notice i’m not the only one who voted yes for this – intrigued to see who the other is?
I’m pretty thrilled. if anyone’s got tips on any bands I really can’t miss, happy to hear them
what have i got myself into this time... http://damiansthirtyyearchallenge.blogspot.com/
by alea iacta est on Mar 13, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
Handbells represent!
"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin
by Hot Cup Joe on Mar 13, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I know lots of people who are on their way out to SXSW today
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Mar 13, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, a couple of co-workers are heading out today
for the interaction / tech part. I’m going for the Music part.
We’re (gulp) attempting to semi live blog the whole thing.
I suspect it will involve a Heart of Darkness-esque descent into madness and dispair..
what have i got myself into this time... http://damiansthirtyyearchallenge.blogspot.com/
by alea iacta est on Mar 13, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Can they whip it?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Can you?
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
Try to detect it.
It’s not too late.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw Cut//Copy last night at the Fillmore
The only question is great show… or greatest show?
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by designatedforassignment on Mar 13, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
did you see matt and kim too?
i love them. Cut Copy, not so much.
what have i got myself into this time... http://damiansthirtyyearchallenge.blogspot.com/
by alea iacta est on Mar 13, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah I saw part of their show
I didn’t have a ticket so I was outside trying to get one without paying 110 bucks for a 25 dollar face ticket. Woo hoo street canvassing skillz. I had never heard them before but I thought Matt and Kim were fun. I was thinking that if punk rock was instead punk electro Matt and Kim would embody the genera, jumping around, playing with a ton of energy, very rough.
Some of the most violent things I’ve ever seen were at Raiders games. And I’ve been to jail. - leopold bloom
by designatedforassignment on Mar 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Did they do an encore and call it Paste?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Dizzy Balloon
My brother’s band, will play three shows there 3/19-20. Don’t know if you’ll still be around, but they’re a good local band (in my exceptionally biased opinion).
local = bay area, or local = austin?
which showcases, do you know?
what have i got myself into this time... http://damiansthirtyyearchallenge.blogspot.com/
by alea iacta est on Mar 13, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you still love me if...
The last time I freaked out, I just kept looking down
I st-st-stuttered when you asked me what I’m thinking bout
Like I couldn’t breathe, you asked what’s wrong with me
My best friend Leslie said, “Oh, she’s just being Miley”
{contented sigh}
this is sooo much better than the boring shite we’ve all been spouting for a few weeks now.
MORE DISHARMONY NOW!
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wanna fight?
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
I'm not talking to you.
You’re going to AZ without me.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
Well, it wasn’t for a lack of trying. Cmon…last mintue fares. We’ll have you back by Sunday night.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
See below.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Bummer. We'll send pictures.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
I've got a birthday party to go to tomorrow night.
and I’m bringing the banner. Plus I’ve got an install this late afternoon, like at 6pm…
I wish….
{sighs discontentedly}
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damn 3.0!
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently you are a good friend to have.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
You'd think so, huh?
How come they leave me stranded here in this god-forsaken state?
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
They?
Is the man keeping you down? Sell and move. Pronto.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
The man's always keeping me down.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I recommend women then.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
THAT
was funny.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Love to my family
For throwing my sister’s 40th b’day party tonight. Which will allow my ass to be on a plane tomorrow.
I will drink- among other things- in your honor.
I'm here to talk about the past.
For those about to die...
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I practiced a little too hard on Wed night for this week(end.)
Been on the wagon ever since.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
Is 9:05 too early to start drinking?
"And sometimes, when it seems like all hope is gone, Life tosses you a special gift of a baseball game" . 7/10/08 BaseBallGirl headline
7:55 am for me!
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
I know! That's why I'm resting now!
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
Seriously
Normally tonight would be an occasion for letting loose. But it’s just an appetizer.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Did you do the online check-in thingy?
I did. I’m in the B line.
"You have to score to win"~Rickey Henderson
Didn't check in early enough
to get A, huh?
Bad omen.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 13, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
Who was this sultan of sock, this hero of hosiery, this stalwart of shinwear? Ah, Wimberly — Corey Wimberly. -Uni Watch
I got an A.
Yes, I’m bragging.
If ever a game should have been called on account of wind, that one was it. Good thing Jerry Blevins didn't have to pitch; he's tall, skinny, and I could practically see one of the 40-mph gusts...sweeping him off the bump and pinning him to the left-field fence. --Mychael Urban
You're not on our flight, so you can't sit with us anyway :-p
Do I need to bring my laptop?
Who was this sultan of sock, this hero of hosiery, this stalwart of shinwear? Ah, Wimberly — Corey Wimberly. -Uni Watch
As well you should.
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by Leopold Bloom on Mar 14, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
we have another week until spring break
not that I have a spring break, since I’m not a student here, but if i did, it would be a week away…
There's no crying in baseball!
Wooooooo!
transfiguration When the woman puts mascara on, it means she’s leaving the house. When the man puts big boots on, it means the alley has been erased by snow. When the black cat has a white strip on its back, be careful! The world can change in an instant.
the mercury news is now stealing my bad jokes
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
But the question is
To be hit by Moriyama's fastball is an honor exceeded only by being crushed under the wheels of the imperial carriage
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner (unless someone tells me he's already been adopted)
"He [Frandsen] had 4 strikesses per three innings his twenty year, then dropped to an cool 1th. But Burriss essentially skipped over AA and AAA after compiling a . But doctrines arrive forever as they say so I'm sure fans of the Philadelphia Phillies and the Detroit Tigers, if given a chance, would trade a down year in 2008 for a World Series title in 2007. 285/.347/." -sfgiantstoday
by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 14, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
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