MoneyBall the Movie! MoneyBall the lunchbox! MoneyBall the Flamethrower!
by robber23 on Feb 6, 2009 11:08 AM PST
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PrintOk, I understand the Moneyball movie is a topic of conversation today in other fanposts, but I thought I'd take the discussion in another direction.
My anticipation of this film is not in question. I humbly pledge to see this movie when it comes out, and subsequently purchase it once it comes out for my home movie viewing pleasure. I'm sure I will love it.
However my skepticism over this film has many fronts. Most people in this country are in agreement about the book MoneyBall--It was prolific, no doubt. The skeptics tend to be of the "I haven't read it but I heard" category, that had seemed to make a lot of noise when the book first came out. Remember the Joe Morgan comments about how "Billy Beane should be ashamed for writing this book," yet he'd never read it and acknowledged that (and Billy obviously didn't write it, a common misconception). I'm sure we all will agree that Joe Morgan has an IQ just north of the short bus, but the "overrated" mentality that is subsequently implied with these comments are sure to start coming back and bugging Billy and the A's.
Honestly, I don't think Billy cares about the backlash. But the A's will be once again an open ground for "stat" talk about how really affective Billy has been in his career. How is Jeremy Brown going to be involved? How anticlimactic that story is going to be. He came up for a cup of coffee, then retired. Yikes! There were like 3 chapters on him. Swisher? Blanton? People are going to want to dig.
I really don't understand how this will be made into a movie. How does it end? Moneyball 2 - The Rebuildening?
This will be a niche movie ( I hope not!), but I'm afraid it will. Maybe a cult classic business movie, like Boiler room. That'd be cool. But where will it go. Will it end in the ALCS loss to the Tigers ( a sweep, yikes)?
It will be cool to see how the inner office dynamics of the A's will be presented. That will be the most fascinating aspect for me, but overall, I'm not sure how this will work.
All in all, Billy is a dynamic individual, no doubt. It seems he is more and more respected as a business man as time moves on (MLB Front Office Manager!). His perspectives on business transcend beyond baseball into the greater business world, and people have taken notice.
What do other people think? What do you anticipate from this film? What are you looking for? How do you see the national public reaction to this?
Will the "haven't read" people be at it again?
Discuss.
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the title is awesome
The nuts and bolts of gameplay are apocalyptic failures, but the awfulness doesn’t stop there. Managing games is utterly pointless. [Feb 2009, p.85]
But only for the spaceballs reference
The nuts and bolts of gameplay are apocalyptic failures, but the awfulness doesn’t stop there. Managing games is utterly pointless. [Feb 2009, p.85]
But, if you take out the spaceballs reference, you have no title?
You’re a real MoneyBall…
please delete this and make it a comment (or series of comments) in the other thread
“Tak[ing] the discussion in another direction” is what, y’know, comments are for. This sin’t another subject entirely, but merely highlighting your own opinions and questions.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
I don't get this either....
I don’t see how this contributes to the discussion at hand…please move your comment to the thread about “Organizing Threads & Comments.”
but seriously….
If a Thread has run its course for a while who wants to try to redirect a conversation that has become mostly filled with one-liner posts hoping that someone will manage to not glaze over at the endless comical responses about who might play BB and notice someone trying to generate a discussion about scope, concept, feasibility, and impact on the organization most directly involved.
I’m all for organization but less not doom someones thought into oblivion just for the sake of it..
Besides if all comments relating to a previously posted thread were actually kept with the original thread we’d probably have set some kind of Guinness Record with rants about Crosby’s (lack of) performance.
Cheers!
(BACK ON TOPIC)
Is this an actual movie? or some type of documentary? or just in the spirit of Moneyball the book but just look at a different set of players…I am curious about how, in the current economy, someone was able to sell this idea…..although in the current economy it might be most applicable throughout MLB.
by WhiteElephant on Feb 6, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
“If a Thread has run its course”
that is not the case here, so what’s your point?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
My point was.
the only other thread I found recently about the Moneyball movie was “Who is the best looking GM in the movies,” which on topic is primarily about who in Hollywood looks like GMs around the league and then spawned a little bit of who would play who in the Moneyball movie. It’s course is pretty much defined. Not to say the Thread is dead—but its topic is pretty clear.
The topic of this particular Thread was different from that; not focused on who in Hollywood looks like BB etc but on the actual movie itself. Why would someone bury their thoughts on the movie content and its impact within a thread of funny quips on who looks like who. Shame on the guy for labeling his thread clearly (Moneyball the Movie… )
(in addition the blatantly boss-like tone of the ‘order’ to move the question to the older thread seemed flat out rude)
"Whom the Gods wish to destroy they first call promising."--Cyril Connolly, Enemies of Promise
by WhiteElephant on Feb 6, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
As the originator of the 'other' thread...
…the intended topic was not which actor looks like BB, despite the title of the post. The true intended topic was that I have a man-crush on Steven Soderbergh, and that I am semi-pumped he is directing this flick.
The commenters just hijacked the thread is all. Damn internets.
"Thread is dead"
-“Zed’s dead”
-“Grateful Dead”
-“Diary Of The Dead”
-“Dead Kennedys”
-“Dead Can Dance”
okay….I’m dead out of ideas.
"God made Majnun love Layla so much that just her dog would cause confusion in him."
The Many Wines-Rumi
My points exactly, thank you
If I was told to remove this, I would have refused. And pretty much did.
AN doesn’t need to be a police site, just a site for discussion.
Who needs homeruns?
It just seems like a way to get more comments
Even though the Moneyball movie post is still very active and this wouldn’t be missed as a comment there.
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I didn't realize it was a It's a coffee is for closers type deal.
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I though we all loved baseball but apparently people are just out to get their Cadillac.
by WhiteElephant on Feb 6, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
fail
you get a set of steak knives -——————————————————————————————————————————————————————→
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
But taking the discussion another way
gets lost in the predictions about whos going to play JP and DePo. Inconsequential to the subject. Plus, it was best looking GM post. At this point I care more about the subject, than the actors involved.
The harm in making a new post with different direction, I don’t seem to understand then. Just trying to spur a different discusison.
All apologies.
Who needs homeruns?
nothing wrong with adding your two cents, or introducing new topics
But this really isn’t a new topic.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
Beerhelmets should be the next subject!
Especially sense I was unfairly snubbed in the Frost interview!
"You Went Full Retard, Man - Never Go Full Retard." --Kirk Lazarus
I’m sure we all will agree that Joe Morgan has an IQ just north of the short bu
joe morgan is not stupid. he’s just stubborn and refuses to acknowledge any of the progress made in baseball analysis over the last two decades.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
short bus
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
meh
joe morgan hasn’t done anything to make me think that he isn’t stupid
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
he was
a fantastic second baseman though. Does it take a lot of intelligence to throw 20 feet to your left?
hmmm not so much
i can do it
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
I disagree
I think he’s of distinctly subpar intelligence.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
It's possible that Joe Morgan is not stupid,
but in the same way that personal friends of George Bush often talk about how intelligent and well-spoken he is in private, he says some blatantly stupid shit in public.
And that makes people call you stupid.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
Flamethrowers that shoot chocolate covered hundred dollar bills?
Dogfood Gangstas
Canned or Dry,
We Neva Die.
there will be more a's hating
whenever moneyball comes up, i always have to listen to the “but they’ve never won it all” or “they’ve never been to the world series” or “what do elephants have to do with athletics”
i hate haters…..uh oh, i guess i hate myself then
When we played softball, I’d steal second base, feel guilty and go back.
- Woody Allen
by rhymeswithelephant on Feb 6, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions
what a pity Ed Wood is dead...
"Clayton Kershaw's curveball scares children"
GlenBilly Glen Boss
Now THAT would be a cult business classic!
"There is a sense of tragic destiny associated with people who have large noses." --Bucky Wunderlick
I love it FSU!
“You see this watch? This watch is worth more than your VORP, OBPS, and your WAR combined you f$#ing piece of $h8t!”
(Throws bottled water…)
"God made Majnun love Layla so much that just her dog would cause confusion in him."
The Many Wines-Rumi
I don't want a Moneyball movie
The book is not even up to date with baseball managing now, imagine in 2 3 years
Clear its radiance shine...
why does everyone on this site dis other peoples fanposts
its an open site
arnt we all a’s fans here
I remember my post as to why the a’s should trade for matt holliday getting completely dissed by pretty much everyone and looked what happen we got matt holliday.
Mile High Salute
Don't take this the wrong way.
It’s not meant as an insult but rather an explanation.
Your Holliday post was a bit short, and you didn’t really supply detailed, backed-by-evidence reasons why the A’s should trade for Holliday. That, and it wasn’t particularly well-written. I’m just saying.
"To this day and dating back 25 years, before every game he plays, Henderson stands completely naked in front of a full length locker room mirror and says, "Ricky’s the best," for several minutes."
by VORP is too nerdy on Feb 6, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Don't take this the wrong way.
I hope you get hit by a bus, only to make a full, speedy recovery and get rich off of the book and movie rights to your story.
What’s my point? Heck if I know.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Well not really.
The argument was about whether the A’s SHOULD trade for Matt Holliday, not whether they WOULD. And anyway, no one, not even TommyTSlice, was predicting that they would.
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