Light at the End of the Crosby Tunnel?
by FrankCohen on Feb 15, 2009 12:38 PM PST
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With the prospect, albeit a small one, that Miguel Tejada might be facing prison time, the Astros are looking for replacements at SS. One of these candidates might (cross your fingers) be the beloved Bobby Crosby. I don't mean to sound cruel, but here's hoping that is Tejada going to prison!
If Tejada does somehow end up having to buy a trusty soap on a rope, what do you think we could get for Crosby, if we eat most of or all of his salary?
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Astros have the worst farm system in baseball..
soo not very much.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
Well
I wouldn’t be expecting very much for him from any team
Jack "The Must, Just has no Rust, ain't no Bust, after him the ladies Lust, turns pitchers into Dust, likes his pizza with no Crust" Cust
Aside fro making no comment..
“No comment”.
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The Many Wines-Rumi
Silly Astros: You don't replace Tejada with Crosby
It’s been tried.
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LoL
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
Unlike Tejada, who hasn't. Yet.
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Actually he has
He already pled guilty. He’s just waiting for sentencing.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
As the saying goes,
“If at first you don’t get tried: succeed, succeed again.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Seriously ...
if anyone thinks Tejada will see one day … one hour … one second of jail time, then I’ve got the proverbial ocean-side property in Nebraska for you. Wow.
It would be impossible to be that naive, wouldn’t it?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Come on, he could easily see a second of jail time
He could visit an incarcerated friend, and at some point stick his hand through the bars or something.
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You might be right
But I’m pretty sure most people said the same thing about Michael Vick when he first got into trouble.
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but quite a difference in "crimes", wouldn't you say?
Grand Canyon -sized.
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by Vacafan on Feb 15, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I wouldn't say that at all.
You’re underestimating how the feds take to somebody lying to them. The differences in possible sentence lengths notwithstanding, I’d much rather have the feds on me for some interstate money issues (the main thing they cared about with Vick) than I would for lying to them about an ongoing investigation.
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Tejada didn't lie to "the feds"
in the sense of lying to prosecutors, like Bonds and Marion Jones and other BALCO’ers did. Tejada lied to Congress, like Rafael Palmeiro and hundreds of government officials over the years, virtually none of whom has ever sweated even a moment of jail time. Equating in any way Tejada’s offense, prosecution or possible punishment with Michael Vick’s borders on the spectacularly obtuse.
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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 16, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
"interstate money issues"
yeah…… If you asked most people what Vick was busted for, they would say “dog-fighting,” which is true—he operated a dog-fighting ring. That is why he was in trouble. That is what the feds “cared about.” A whole bunch of federal investigations will involve charges of something like “interstate money issues” because there’s no jurisdiction otherwise, but that is not what anyone cared about in that case.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Nah
They have way bigger fish to fry. It was the money, not the horrific dog fighting, that got their attention.
What the public was outraged about and what law enforcement cares about aren’t the same thing.
by thejd44 on Feb 16, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Ok... what are these money issues that they allegedly cared about?
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Acutally
In many cases, they are the same thing. See: Johannes Mehserle
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by CarGon's Jock on Feb 19, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I think the Feds and lower authorities are concerned with dogfighting and spend a lot of resources on policing it. I don’t think that the interstate money issue was the main thing they cared about.
It was the vehicle they used
to get at him. The Feds really don’t care about dog fighting. Local jurisdictions handle that sort of thing on a daily basis. For whatever reason, they decided to make an example out of Mr. Vick.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Just like how the mobsters would get busted back in the day.
If they couldn’t get them on murder charges, they just got them on tax evasion.
by LoneStranger on Feb 16, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
our grandkids will say
if they couldn’t get them for steroids use, they just got them for perjury.
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by xbhaskarx on Feb 16, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Except that's really not the truth
The feds never intended to go after players – to prosecute them – for using steroids. In fact, I’m not even sure they could because I’m pretty sure there’s a statute of limitations there. How come they’re not going after Giambi or one of the many others?
Bonds is only in trouble now because he lied under oath.
by thejd44 on Feb 16, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
i didn't say it was true, but i think that is the perception
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Bingo.
The thing with the Feds is that they rarely pursue criminal complaints in and of themselves. Most of the time someone is incarcerated, it’s because they were foolish enough to run their mouths and ended up in a contradiction. In other words, the “investigation” is what generates the “offense”. Word to the wise, when dealing with the Feds, keep your mouth shut.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Or simply tell the truth when you do
that way you have nothing to worry about.
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I hope you're not serious
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
PT and I agree.
Which is amazing to me. At any rate, the Feds have a way of throwing out question after question when pursing an agenda. It’s almost impossible to “tell the truth” because it’s rare that a person even “knows” the whole truth. Sooner or later, you will entrap yourself. All they have to do is keep you talking. There’s nothing wrong with answers like, “I don’t know”, “I don’t recall”, and, “I can’t be sure”. Most people don’t know the end game, so they try to be helpful and sing away.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I agree
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with “I don’t know”, or “I don’t recall” if you really don’t know or can’t remember.
However, if asked if you knowingly used steroids, and you knowingly used steroids? Then the correct answer .. the honest answer .. the ethical answer … the right answer, is Yes. And guess what? Had Sosa, McGwire, Clemens, whomever simply answered “yes”, nothing would’ve happened to them.
I’m sorry, that’s not true — here’s a very small list of things that would’ve happened. 1. Their popularity would’ve skyrocketed. 2. Those who had the stats to earn it, the HOF would be a shoo-in. 3. They could rest in the knowledge they told the truth when asked.
Sorry PT, but you will never convince me that ducking and dodging and avoiding the truth at all costs is a good thing. And you’re going to be a lawyer, right. That’s great.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Personally, I rather like the 5th Amendment
I’m aware that puts me in the extreme minority of modern Americans, but I don’t consider that a bad thing.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
I'm right there with you on that one
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i enjoy its protection as well.
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by designatedforassignment on Feb 17, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I refuse to acknowledge whether I enjoy its protection or not
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No, it's not the worst thing.
This is the reason the 5th was created in the first place. During Congressional testimony, the government was engaged in a fishing expedition. Of course most of those guys used steroids. It sure as hell wouldn’t have ended with those guys answering questions. Because now you’ve admitted to felony crimes in public no less. So the gov’t is going to want to know where you got them, who gave them to you, and who else was taking them. And since they’ve gone to all this trouble, they’re going to want to know if there is anything else you should tell them about. It’s not as simple a matter as you think it is.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
there is absolutely something wrong...
with “I don’t know” or any other verbal response… your only response, when questiioned by the Feds is… “I want a lawyer or I take the 5th”…. anything else, no matter how “truthful” you think you’re being… i just dumb.
They’ll hang you on your “truth.”
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by FoolshGame22 on Feb 17, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
you underestimate the number of laws that exist
as well as the number of prosecutors. If by local, you mean state level, then yes, I’m sure most things are prosecuted at that level. But interstate transport of animals for the purpose of fighting or related activities like illegal performance of veterinary medicine will get you in prison. Operations like Vick’s typically include gambling and illegal weapons activity.
I'd be more worried about losing my green card or work visa than jail time, if I were him.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
This is precisely the leverage
that the Feds had over him. They caught him in a lie, which makes his legal status tenuous in this country. They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse….so to speak. I for one imagine that there is more to the story. The Feds got something in return for the deal. Question is….what? I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see Miggy again in the near future. Probably giving state’s evidence.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Yeah the last time this was tried it didnt turn out so well
Wait for the the 2009 Oaklands A's season to start I can not. Herh herh herh.
Of course I'm a little hesitant to put too much stock
into an article that also suggests Oil Can Boyd may make a comeback at age 49.
L O L
C A T S !!!
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would they play crosby at 3b?
even if tejada was off the hook.
their 3b consists on boone/blum right now
they dont have much to offer, but maybe A’s save 1mill or 2.
maybe sutton or towles could be pried away if A’s include an expendable pitcher.
i’d still like SD, they have some interesting lower minors hitters.
I thought you meant we could get "towels" in return for Crosby
Which would be a good deal in my book.
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by CarGon's Jock on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Can't see how this works.
The Astros have been completely unwilling to add any payroll at all—thus, the only way a trade would work is if we paid Crosby’s salary in total or took Tejada back in the deal. Neither of those sound like good deals.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Crosby and $5.5 million for nothing
Good deal for both teams. Except Houston.
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crosby can be kotsay'd...hopefully
if it saves a mill or 2 no matter what hey get back.
by Asfan4ever723 on Feb 15, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Tejada's not going to prison, nor should he
He made a plea deal with the prosecutor to cop to “false representation,” for which fed sentencing guidelines recommend six months probation. No one would agree to a plea deal in exchange for a sentence which exceeded what they’d likely get by going to trial.
That said, Houston (being the bastion of moral rectitude that it is) may not want to associate themselves with Miggi anymore. So if the penance the impose upon themselves is Bobby Crosby’s services, far be it from me to tell them to chill out.
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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 15, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Miggy for Crosby straight up
gives the Astros lower payroll and higher moral ground, and gives Oakland a better team in 2009. Wheeee!!!!
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Does it?
Tejada’s defense isn’t what it used to be, he’s old, and he couldn’t hit well playing a full season in Minature Maid park.
Paying an extra 7 million dollars for the privilege of watching Tejada finish his proverbial cliff-falling doesn’t seem like such a hot deal.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
In his current incarnation, he can still run rings around Crosby offensively
And they’re comparable defensively (Crosby better if he rebounds from 2008, Tejada better if he has a rejuvamiggination upon returning to Oakland).
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Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I don't see any sort of "rebound" by coming to Oakland.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
or maybe I'm looking at his last 5 years of OPS+
and the disturbing trend
131
128
126
109
92
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
But even at 109 he kicked Crosby's ass out of the water
At 92, he still makes more contact and has more RBI potential than Croz. At 80, however, he’d be an expensive mistake.
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If I thought he (Tejada) had a chance at a 109 next year, I'd be all for the trade.
I think he’s got a better chance at 79, unfortunately.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Every projection at Fangraphs has him as an above-average hitter next season
With league average D and the positional adjustment, he could be a 2 win upgrade on Crosby.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
Well aware of that.
What I don’t understand is HOW they’re getting those numbers… He’s clearly declining, and somehow in his age 35 season he’s going to find the 50 points of OPS that he lost from 07 to 08? I just don’t buy it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d be fucking ecstatic to see him dealt for Crosby and then go on to win another MVP for us, but I’m skeptical.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I'd be ecstatic to see him dealt for Crosby
and just go on to post league average defense with a 100 OPS+.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Me too
But I don’t see Tejada doing that.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Why do you see such a steep decline over the course of one season though?
Going from 109 to 100 OPS+ seems realistic, and that’s much better than Crosby (and also much better than what Orlando Cabrera, who is on just as steep of a decline but without a Hall-of-Fame peak level from which he can decline).
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
He went from 109 to 92 though.
That’s a 17 point drop, which is strangely exactly the same drop he had from 2007 to 2008 (126 to 109).
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Why is regression to the mean such a despised concept?
The last time Tejada was that bad, he was a rookie.
Is Tejada in decline? Probably. But since the average player (give or take whatever adjustments the projection system makes for weight, player comps, etc etc etc) declines more slowly than losing 15% of his value in one season, the projections expect him to rebound.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
So the fact that he's declined for 5 consecutive seasons is meaningless?
I’m not saying Tejada is going to lose 15% of his value in one season, nevermind that he’s done it the past 2 in a row. That would literally put him below Crosby territory.
Say what you will, but it’s pretty clear that his non-PED performance has been getting worse and worse.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I think your last statement is a pretty important issue
I’m not big on a Tejada deal, but I do think he’ll have a better 2009 than Crosby.
Point is, I don’t see any available players (including Tejada and Cabrera) who I think will be a significant upgrade on Crosby. Not to the point where it’s worth the money and the risk.
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
His 2004-2006 performance was, to all practical purposes, flat
It’s absurd to claim that a drop of 5 OPS+ points represents any true decay in hitting ability. That’s well within the margin of error for a typical player.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
The one thing I would call fair game
is that he isn’t the 35 year old he appears to be. Evaluating him as a past-his-prime 37-38 year old is reasonable, IMO. But he’s not 41, either. I don’t think.
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Right, that was his early 30s. The end of his prime, no?
How is it a stretch to think that he’s almost finished as a player now in his mid 30s, when the numbers clearly show that he’s severely declining?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Whoops. I tossed in an extra "severely" in there.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Not that anything needs to be added...
… but, I’ll add a few things:
1. I’d rather deal Crosby to the Stros, pay most of his salary (say, $3.75 million), try to get back someone like Sutton from the Astros, and sign Orlando Cabrera… if the Stros really only have $2 million of payroll room, they might not be able to outbid us for O-Cab, which would give us at least a small amount of leverage. (I highly doubt we could get someone like Sutton for Croz, so insert whatever prospect you want into the deal.)
2. Despite the potentially positive ramifications for the A’s, I do not want to see Miguel Tejada in prison.
Also…
P-Thomas: Does the idea of regression to the mean need to be re-considered to take into account whether or not a player used PEDs? . . . I’m not sure it does, but it’s possible that “enhanced” players may regress to their means differently than non-enhanced players, or may suffer steeper declines due to the fact that they are getting older AND not using PEDs anymore (unlike their nonenhanced counterparts, who will only be getting older). (Of course, it’s also possible that enhanced players will progress into old age no differently than nonenhanced players…) I’m not sure where someone’d find it, but it would be interesting to see the career curves of enhanced players to see how they match up with CHONEs, PECOTAs, ZiPS, etc.’s career curves for similar players.
This, of course, assumes Tejada used PEDs.
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by Uncle Charlie on Feb 16, 2009 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
I'd love to answer your question, but there's absolutely no way we will ever be able to
It’s impossible to construct proper experiments when we have such limited and contested data.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
I'd do that deal
in a NY minute. Miggy may have lost a step or twelve, but he’s still a significant upgrade offensively over Crosby. Plus he’d be a versatile right handed cog in the lineup.
by oakballnack on Feb 18, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
we've been spoiled by crosby
111
67
68
76
he’s on an upward trend…80 here we come!!
He's en FUEGO!!!!!!11
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by Nico on Feb 15, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
At least the fans at the Coliseum still like him, so we must just be wrong
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So the light at the end of the Crosby tunnel isn't a train? Damn.
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions
It has a nice caboose but doesn't go anywhere
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm just thankful that "the Crosby tunnel" isn't what it could have been
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Between Tejada and Crosby on the A's depth chart:
Poochini The Wonderdog! Who’s got a rope?
FSU really should never have shown me how to do this.
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I am delighted with the results
and I can’t wait until you get drunk(er) and even less inhibited with your pix.
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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 15, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Nico never knew how to post pics...
until you taught him? Learn something new every day on AN.
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by FoolshGame22 on Feb 15, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
I am not, you might say, "tech-savvy"
What I know, I can do well but what I don’t know, I can’t figure out even when sober.
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Welcome to the pic-posting world, then...
Poochini looks healthy and happy.
Clowns to the left of me... Jokers to the right...
by FoolshGame22 on Feb 15, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
So you're saying you know goats
and not much else?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I know lots of other stuff, actually
Whip cream, leather, Danish hookers, just to name a few examples.
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Kind of redundant
I mean, once you know goats, don’t the other three examples just follow?
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or at least not tell people that you do
Wait for the the 2009 Oaklands A's season to start I can not. Herh herh herh.
The only light at the end of the tunnel that Crosby needs to see
is me with a 10,000 ton freight train with six 4300 HP locomotives in Run 8 heading towards him. It is up to him if he gets out of the way but the way he fields at times, it’s doubtful he makes it off the tracks.
I could have gone with 6 GE 4400AC Loco's but
I will take the EMD SD70Aces as they have much better torque and I want to make sure I get the job done and besides the General Electrics are not as reliable. I want to make sure I don’t miss.
This is supposed to be a joke
It’s been raining goats and more goats so I may have been compromised
YOU may have been compromised?
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The goats where chasing me
what a role reversal.
Has this happened to you before Nico?
BTW: How is Poochini today?
Poochini is awesome!!!
Like the Poochini of yesteryear (he begged for food, barked excitedly, and annoyed today – and I was loving it).
It’s just been an incredible roller-coaster ride, but after looking like he was on his death bed Friday, just three days later he looks like he may (cross your paws) be over the hump, maybe having had a bad hypoglycemia attack rather than having lost a lot of blood again.
Thanks for asking and for your concern in general. Much appreciated.
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Oh, and he's bad again this morning
This is fun!
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thanks a lot
I crossed my paws, and now they’re stuck like that. Amazingly I can still dsf cxjnjkbgsl sdiogsdn. So that’s a good thing.
I'm here to talk about the past.
I don't know if you have $$$ falling out of your pockets but
have you obtained another diagnosis from another vet? Maybe you already have and I missed that part but it cannot hurt right?
I know it has to be tough riding the rollercoaster.
We've been to two vets (our normal one and the emergency hospital)
and spent about $2,500-$3,000 along the way. Mostly, we have found more success when we have not followed advice (which has generally been to do more tests and more invasive procedures) and decided instead to err on the side of keeping him at home, showering him with kisses, and following common sense.
Not that the vets’ advice has always been wrong – the medications have helped and the transfusion saved his life – but sometimes you have to balance the professional advice with your own research, common sense, and knowledge of your pet.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
+1
I have a good friend who is a breeder and trainer of Akitas, and she does a ton of stuff herself – vaccinations, medications, etc.
If you like, I could bounce a quick synopsis of Poochini off her, and see if she has any home remedy advice.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Sure, thanks -
- Was severely anemic, losing blood; x-rays, ultra sounds, and blood tests could not find a bleeding ulcer, tumor, cancer, or autoimmune disease.
- Got much better on Sucralfate and Famotidine.
- Got much worse when he stopped taking the meds, had to be rushed to Emergency Pet Hospital.
- Red blood cell count was down to 6% when he had transfusions that brought it up to 18. (Normal is around 35.) Another blood test about a week later showed the count at 19%.
- Got better again on same meds for about 10 days but then crashed suddenly last Friday night: was extremely weak, disoriented, trembling, wouldn’t/couldn’t eat.
- On Friday night, responded dramatically (within a couple hours) to sugar water and acted totally healthy for the next three days.
- Woke up this morning (Tuesday) weak and disoriented again, came back a bit upon drinking sugar water and is resting in his bed, now able and willing to eat but not with a whole lot of energy.
Current best guess: Had bleeding ulcer and in the process developed hypoglycemia – for whatever reason is still not producing or is not properly regulating sugar (glucose).
Current best second guess: Tumor in liver or pancreas.
Thanks, mikev – you can email me privately if it looks like this thread is disappearing. We’re taking Poochini into the vet Wed morning for another blood test and consultation.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Poochini is lucky to have good owners
like yourself. I treat my cats like royalty and would have a dog here is I was allowed to.
I love animals and it is evident you are doing everything you can. Hopefully the visit on Wednesday will find something that he has a full recovery.
Fingers Crossed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll get back to you soon.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Thanks, Trainman and mikev.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Got a response.
It sounds scary :(
reading symptoms and whats already been ruled out, I’m thinking hemangiosarcoma, which typically manifests around the liver.
I hope not- its fatal. lost my foundation dog to it :(
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Yeah, that would not be good
I’ve come across that in my research and considered it as a possibility – my hope is that the level of his recovery when he’s not acting hypoglycemic suggests maybe it’s not a cancer-related problem, i.e., he’s not only deteriorating and he’s not showing evidence of more and more organ malfunction.
But if it is hemangiosarcoma, we’re inclined not to treat it but rather to trade comfort for longevity. Better to die in comfort at home than to live in agony at a hospital, IMO. Especially when ultimately, you die pretty soon either way.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Back from the vet, she thinks
it’s a bleeding ulcer and not a cancer/tumor of any kind.
Poochini’s good today and they’ve taken blood to check red blood cell levels; she also told us to go ahead and do our own blood sugar test if/when he next collapses (we have the kit) but thinks the weakness, trembling, etc. is as likely a response to pain in the stomach as specifically hypoglycemia.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That's a positive
Ruling out the more serious of serious stuff.
Now let the “Powers that be” heal Poochini!!!
Yayus!!!!! {puts hand on dog}
And ye shall heal!!!! But not heel. Bad dog.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sweet news.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
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