the a's will sing??
by theraja on Feb 14, 2009 11:25 AM PST
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PrintHey whats up with everybody correcting spelling. Who really cares, last time I check this wasn't a online english class. Seriously though I could care less if someone puts Embree or Embre or the they post sign or sing. I think someone shows less intelligence when the try to correct someone by say to the put sing instead of sign, really you cant figure it out?, or do you think your smart by pointing it out?, either way its a worrisome thought.
anywys who do you guys think the a's would consider trading off the 40 man, I could see another 2/3 player deal for some proscepts to claer some 40 man space. Just some ideas.
Can anyone give me more information on players
Jeff Gray and Ryan Webb, them seem not so good base on stats.
Chen?? Copeland is he rule 5?
Anyways hers the players I think they might consider tradeing
Duke, Bowen, Hanahan, Patterson, Denofria, Herrara
what do you guys think
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do I think Im Smart
well today ive spent part of my day posting on a baseball blog across the internet, does that answer your question. If I were smart I would find something better to do.
Alright.
So, I wasn’t asking if you think you’re smart. I was making a joke about your misuse of your/you’re.
Here’s the thing: I actually do think spelling and grammar are important. Do I think you’re automatically smart if you can spell, use punctuation properly, and construct complete and coherent sentences? No. But those things are leading indicators of smartness. They’re like the Control Rate, Command Ratio, and Dominance Rate of smart.
I still haven’t read past the first paragraph of your Fanpost because you displayed with your poor spelling, grammar, and sentence structure that it probably isn’t worth my time to read further. Fair? Of course not.
I’ll happily continue to be a grammar cop here and elsewhere not because I want you to feel stupid, but because with very little effort just about anyone can easily appear to be smart. When our culture rids itself of the blight of treating any and all written compositions as though they are text messages, an age of true enlightenment will have arrived. I long for that day.
by HigherPie on Feb 14, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
the point was
I came here to read about A’s baseball. I dont want to read posts about how to spell. I would go join a spelling website, if I wanted to learn to spell.
If you don't like people pointing out your spelling or grammar mistakes...
…then stop making them.
That’s a good motivation to learn how to do it the right way, isn’t it?
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how can I stop making them?
if I dont care if I do..
You seem to care enough to complain about it
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oh it doesn't bother me
its the posting, just for the purposes of correcting spelling
You don't care if you offend other people
But you care when they do by telling you you’re offending them? If this seems straw-man please enlighten me as to otherwise.
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by Rebuilding Season on Feb 14, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
does it accually offend someone
if I put Hannahan instead of Hanahan?
You ever see how we refer to him as Hanrahan?
and Daric as Dale? That’s because a certain uninformed sportscaster last year did the same. It is now what is known as a “Running Joke” among the community. We make jokes about these events because we are all so mystified by how people can make mistakes that so blatantly paint them as uninformed without ever trying to correct them. Yes, it offends me. If you want to make a point and show yourself to be worthy of everyone’s attention, then show me you can pass 2nd grade please.
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by Rebuilding Season on Feb 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
2nd grade wasn't that hard
it was 3rd that got me
OK
At this point I can only conclude that we’re being deliberately punked.
Ban this account and make the troll wait a while before he shows up again.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
"at this point"??
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
Where's the love?
Nobody complained when I was writing speeches for George W Bush. Everywone liked the simple catch frases I put into the speak. They were well recieved in texas.
i believe you meant...
“They were good recieved in texas”
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by designatedforassignment on Feb 14, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
touche
Some of the most violent things I’ve ever seen were at Raiders games. And I’ve been to jail. - leopold bloom
by designatedforassignment on Feb 17, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
No, the N is silent.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
"Please take me seriously, even though I delight in being illiterate."
No. Next question.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
what does one know about the plant
if one knows how to correctly spell its name?
nothing of the plant, nothing at all.
I didn't even understand that comment
But if I banned everyone who made a comment I didn’t understand, AN would be a lonely place.
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I don't get it
{bans Flashfire}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
HigherPie's point was, and mine is,
that it takes little time or effort to write with basic spelling and grammar. If you can’t even be bothered to take a moment to say to yourself “you’re suggesting…you are suggesting…aha, it’s ’you’re’” then why should others bother to read and why shouldn’t they ask that if you are going to contribute to a conversation that you try to do it with a shred of literacy.
Then again, I’ve been known to ask Helen Keller to please speak more clearly and then chastise her when she ignores the wave of my hand.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Its called ignore
Try filtering out post. Most of you know it all know nothing about baseball but everything about spelling.
In all fairness there are only a few post that I don’t understand so I ignore them just like the crazy person talking to themself at the market. Is it that hard to ignore something. Just like that person that post 1 on their subject line. Annoying but who cares. Or post that drag on forever.
"Just like the crazy person talking themself at the market"
And all of us, when blogging, are different from this person how? :-)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
missed the point
I tend to ignore those who make no sense to me just like some of these post. Not worth my time to tell them how to spell or write. If you are realy concerned about those things don’t go to a baseball blog. Sounds to me like everyone is getting no baseball fever and have nothing better to do then complain about things that don’t matter.
No, we complain about bad spelling and grammar
during the season too. My question: Since it’s SO EASY to get “your/you’re” right, why don’t people just do it right instead of getting mad at being corrected?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
why does it matter
If it doesn’t bother me why does it bother you? I could care less what some control freak thinks of me not spelling a word correctly but it does bother some other people here. If you don’t understand what they are saying let it go why should it matter that much to you unless its your fanpost or they are replying to your post.
"If it doesn't bother me why does it bother you?"
I could say the same about me sleeping with your wife.
For which, again, I do apologize.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
now thats funny
Only time Nico slept with a woman it was with his mother and he was in diapers.
Leave last week out of this
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
What a load of BS
IF it doesn’t bother you, then people correcting grammar shouldn’t bother YOU. But clearly it does. So based on your logic. If people correcting grammar don’t bother me, it shouldn’t bother you?
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by DMOAS on Feb 14, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Feb 15, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you!
Its well to get these thing right irregardless of profice proficients prophicien how well you write.
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He lies the first intentional use of strikethrough in AN 3.0 history
And the 10518230948219681096810964th use.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I think there's an incredibly high correlation here between literacy and baseball knowledge
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
I does two!
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The thing speaks for itself!
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I can't believe that people turned this comment green.
Being able to spell and use punctuation properly has nothing to do with being SMART. It has to do with being educated. Two different things.
You don't really have to be either to use "your/you're" correctly,
or to spell your own players’ names right – you just have to not impose laziness on the rest of the community.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
When you know the difference between you're and your...
it’s hard to understand why others have so much difficulty with it. The students you work with most likely have parents who have read to them from an early age and have taken an interest in their educational development. But that isn’t true in many families. The kids I work with often don’t get any educational guidance and when you visit their homes they don’t even own one book. However, if you took the time to get to know them you’d find that they have lively minds and a creativity that would astound you. You’d be made fun of for your lack of “street” smarts.
Those of you with the wonderful writing skills here on AN should be commended for the abilty whether it’s innate or learned. But the way that many of you poke fun of others without the skills is less than commendable and really isn’t nice either. English learners, and less skilled writers have plenty to say and shouldn’t be made fun of and to have their efforts denigrated. Politely correcting mistakes is one thing but you guys are way out of line in discouraging others who may be blue collar or are different than your idea of “smart”.
My point, though, is that you don't have to be educated
to take a moment to figure out whether a sentence makes sense if it reads “you are” in place of the “your/you’re” YOU’RE about to use – I’m not letting poor, uneducated, or disadvantaged people off the hook for refusing to bother with the simplest check on basic, fundamental and SIMPLE grammar. Honestly, it’s just laziness.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
And truthfully, the only reason he's getting attacked is because he called people out
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Being educated is a leading indicator of being smart...
in much the same way that being a first-round draft pick is a leading indicator of being good at baseball. Yes, there are many lower-round picks who are good, and many first-round picks who are not good. But it’s still a leading indicator.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
Although from my own personal experience,
having a PhD is NOT an indicator of intelligence, and if anything has a negative correlation. Maybe it’s a “self-selection” thing – the people who are apt to pursue PhDs are often people with very superficial views about status and education – but the sample is pretty large in my own dealings with “educated people,” some of the very stupidest of whom have had PhDs.
Disclaimer: This does NOT apply to ALL PhDs! If you are an intelligent person who happens to have a PhD, please do not be offended as I am not talking about you.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Bullshit.
Being educated is a leading indicator of sitting through college courses.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
...which is a leading indicator of being smart...
Let me make clear, I’m not arguing that there aren’t plenty of smart people who can’t or won’t attend college. That’s actually a topic which makes me pretty aggravated on behalf of my generation, although I fear my rant on the topic would be a political CGV waiting to happen. But a system that works 60% of the time instead of 90%, however pathetic and inadequate, still works more often than not. (Caution: statistics made up.)
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
That's never been true.
Many intelligent people live in situations that do not encourage academic pursuits. Some racial groups attend college in much smaller percentages than others…if your assertion were true then you’d make a good spokesperson for supremist groups.
I think we need grover to weigh in on whether 60% is "above average"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
An easy mathematical thought experiment will disprove this
Let’s take the planet Og, where there are two races, red people and green people. (H/T to Raymond Smullyan.) They are exactly the same species in all innate respects other than skin color. There are exactly 100 million Ogians.
Red people are the majority, making up 3/4 of the population. They have most of the money, political power, etc etc. As a result of this, 50% of the red people who are smarter than average go to college, and 10% of the red people who are less smart than average go to college.
Green people are the minority, comprising 1/4 of the population. They suffer numerous systemic disadvantages. Only 10% of the green people who are smarter than average go to college. And a mere 2% of the green people who are less smart than average go to college.
18.75 million smart red Ogians, and 1.25 million smart green Ogians, go to college. 3.75 million not-smart red Ogians, and 250,000 not-smart green Ogians, go to college. So if you take an average college student, chances are 83.7% that he’s smarter than average.
Keep in mind the key facts here: 1. Red and green Ogians are exactly equally intelligent on average. 2. Green Ogians are oppressed and don’t often go to college. 3. Dumb red Ogians are as likely to go to college as smart green Ogians. 4. An outright majority of smart Ogians don’t attend college. (Perhaps Og is a bit underdeveloped. There might be other, richer planets where the situation is different.) Or to put it another way, smartness is not a leading indicator of college.
And yet, we find that college is a leading indicator of smartness.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
Of course you wrote that beautifully but the problem is...
You seem to disprove your own point that college is a leading indicator of intelligence. The controlling variable in your example is whether one is a person of privilege. Not whether one is intelligent. Hence the vast majority of the intelligent oppressed population do not attend college.
You're confusing my argument with the converse of it
I’m not saying, nor have I ever said, that the majority of smart people attend college. Even in today’s US, with a very broad-based college system, it’s probably true that a majority of the Americans who are smarter than average don’t go to college, or at least don’t graduate it. Intelligence is not a leading indicator of college, or at least the question of whether it is is one that I don’t have the answer to here.
What I am saying is that the majority of collegians, or to take this back to the original point (which was somewhat different), the majority of people who write grammatically, are smart.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
Its not possible for you to deal
with real life without statistics, is it?
"You have to score to win"~Rickey Henderson
Actually it is, but only 7.84% of the time.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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Canned or Dry,
We Neva Die.
by Zonis on Feb 14, 2009 11:38 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Oooh, I want one of those badges!
Do I get some kind of weapon for striking offenders?
by thejd44 on Feb 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
It appears...
that you’re armed with a bow and arrow…archery skill is an important aspect of grammar police work.
"Sweeney's a white Andre Ethier."--a white, drunk Billy Beane
by Cutthemullet on Feb 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Just remember that the bow and arrow are in your left hand,
and the gun is in your right hand.
No, your OTHER right hand. Oy.
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I really do think Billy Beane
should have signed Hammer to play one last game for us in left field.
It would have meant a lot to the fans, even though it would have delayed his Hall Of Fame clock by another year.
"The magical goblins who live in my shower told me that Bobby Crosby's gonna have a good year this year" - The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 15, 2009 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
Would he be a better defensive OF than Cust?
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
And which was he worst at?
1. baseball
2. music
3. finance
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I’m so adjective, I verb nouns.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Feb 14, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
you got it right
What annoys me is people that correct small misspellings. Its called control freaks!
On your other question I can’t see Denofria being on the active unless he makes the team.
denorfia
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by Hot Cup Joe on Feb 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
What's amusing is that no one yet has
complained about “people correcting spelling/grammar” without making at least one error in the comment.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
control freak's
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
It's called control, freaks.
"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin
by Hot Cup Joe on Feb 14, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
It's called "control!" [Freaks]
"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin
by Hot Cup Joe on Feb 14, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
no
"Sweeney's a white Andre Ethier."--a white, drunk Billy Beane
by Cutthemullet on Feb 14, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
?
"Sweeney's a white Andre Ethier."--a white, drunk Billy Beane
by Cutthemullet on Feb 14, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
What "matters" is that you can express your point.
And you don’t seem to be able to. Aside from the fact that you left out the word “roster” after active, making it hard to understand your meaning, if he does make the active roster, he WILL be on the team. Saying that he won’t be on the roster unless he makes the team is tautological.
If there's one thing worse than bad grammar,
it’s people who whine and act persecuted when they are mocked for bad grammar.
There’s a reason grammar exists. It’s so people have a clue what the f*** you’re talking about.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 14, 2009 12:22 PM PST reply actions 13 recs
W*** do you mean?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Feb 14, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WTF you saying willis??
Why do you need to mock Wilis? Its 1 thing to point it out another to mock.
WT*?!
"If my uniform doesn't get dirty, I haven't done anything in the baseball game." - Rickey Henderson
I'm actually a bit offended and insulted when somebody doesn't take the time to at least try to get simple grammar right.
Everybody has typos, and correcting a simple mistake might be going overboard; however, repeated and flagrant disregard for the language that we’re all supposedly fluent in does bother me. And it should. I’ve spent tens of thousands of dollars to make sure that when I communicate, people understand what I’m saying.
This post is just another example of the horrifying trend of anti-intellectualism in America. I don’t get it, especially when it comes to something as basic (and easy) as 5th grade communication skills.
by thejd44 on Feb 14, 2009 12:24 PM PST reply actions 11 recs
As someone who grades graduate school writing,
let me back what YOUR saying by whining that many graduate school students who are in Teacher Credential programs can’t RIGHT worth a DAM. I’m talking 5th grade level can’t WRIGHT WERTH ADAM (piatt). ITS PAHTETIC.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Eye don't no what your talking about.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I C what U did there
LOL, ya.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I had a buddy who was told not to use a Semicolon
in a senior level undergraduate English class. The TA told him simply "don’t use semicolons because nobody knows how to use them correctly anymore. My friend was using the semicolon correctly in said example.
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by Rebuilding Season on Feb 14, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
That is depressing.
Especially because it’s really not that difficult to use semicolons correctly.
by whiteshoes40 on Feb 14, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Or, as Monkeyball would have it,
it’s really not that difficult to use semicola correctly.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
Is that half a Pepsi?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It kind of offends me more when people celebrate the fact they...
…don’t know how to communicate without making mistakes every time they open their proverbial mouths.
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"It is better to be silent and thought ignorant
than to speak and remove all doubt."
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I don't want to stifle the opinions of those who aren't as literate
I just don’t want them bitching about the rest of us trying to make them more literate. Why the hell is learning such a bad thing, anyway?
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
Or they could not be super-duper literate,
but still bother to get simple things like “your/you’re,” and the spelling of their own players’ names, right.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
"in which we're supposedly all fluent"
"There is a sense of tragic destiny associated with people who have large noses." --Bucky Wunderlick
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 14, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions
Thank you.
Prepositions at the ends of sentences are something up with which I can’t put. That and incomplete sentences.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Is using prepositions at the end of sentences actually wrong?
Some say yes, some say no.
Never, Never, NEVER give up
In formal writing, yes. But it's not wrong to use it in speech.
It’s really a matter of the level of diction you’re using, and in conversational posts on AN, I’m more likely going to end in a preposition than not.
by thejd44 on Feb 15, 2009 1:12 AM PST up reply actions
The ones who say yes are wrong.
Even in formal writing it is sometimes appropriate.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
You mean it's
sometimes appropriate to.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
This post is a more frustrating read than the 43,521st "Bobby Crosby Sucks" one
Why you insist on coming off as lazy/uneducated I’ll never know. The fact that you seem to glory in it and criticize others for not following in your footsteps is simply sad.
When there is a right and a wrong, and being right is easy, why affirmatively choose to be wrong?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Feb 14, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Are we talking about Crosby again?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Benefit of the doubt
I certainly don’t feel an urge to correct every misspelling or typo. That would be boring and tedious. If I do post about a spelling or usage error, it’s either because I think it’s an interesting case that many people might not know or because there’s something amusing about a particular typo in context.
If I do correct someone, I’m giving him or her the benefit of the doubt. When I correct you, I’m saying that I believe you are a person who wants to communicate better and would welcome an opportunity to learn and improve. If you’re so sensitive that you can’t get past the feeling of being personally criticized, well, that’s a shame and I’m sorry.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 14, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
And mayyyyyyyybe the interweb is not right for you!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I just recommended this post
I must be insane. I mean insain. Insaighn? Wait, inseign. That is, in —
Crazy.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I was going to
But I was really hoping that this was a post about A’s players on Broadway.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Feb 14, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is all very amusing, but
Which A’s are singing? In what musical genre, and where, and when? If it’s in the gloriously renovated Fox Theater in Oakland, I’m down for a ticket.
"There is a sense of tragic destiny associated with people who have large noses." --Bucky Wunderlick
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 14, 2009 1:19 PM PST reply actions
where's the singing at??
"Sweeney's a white Andre Ethier."--a white, drunk Billy Beane
by Cutthemullet on Feb 14, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"Feeligns...Nothign more than feeligns..."
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
To paraphrase Paul Newman and Charlie Finley...
Where the hell are the s(w)ingin’ A’s?
"The magical goblins who live in my shower told me that Bobby Crosby's gonna have a good year this year" - The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 15, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
This is kwite emu-zing
The orginal poster has been ostricheyezed to the poynt whare he duz knot wont to replie anymor
like thowing redd meet to liuns...
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
May I suggest that in SBN 3.1
there be imposed a requirement that a new user must post a certain number of comments (let’s say 20) under front page articles or fanposts before being allowed to put up a fanpost of their own.
Then the user should be required to post more comments (not including those under their own fanpost) before putting up a second fanpost.
I’m not that much bothered over grammar issues. It’s the people who register, throw up four fanposts in the first week, rarely or never comment on anyone else’s posts and then feel entitled to lecture the community about its standards who bother me. Fortunately, most of those users are ephemeral.
And another thing…wait, excuse me, those damned kids are running around on my lawn again.
by Soaker on Feb 14, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Wait, I think we're now at +1 but I'm not sure
Math is harrrrrd.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
My brain hurts
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Perhaps you should shy away from replying to posts that involves any sort of simple mathematics. Your mathematical incompetence offends me.
The Not-So-Casual Fan
Watch that
object-verb agreement there, oh offended one.
"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin
yeah, but
This kind of shit is sort of amusing in the offseason. But honestly, aren’t we allowed to decide for ourselves how we sort through the chaff?
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Feb 14, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
serioulsy Im sorry
but the Raja experiment shall soon meet its apocalypse
I'd suggest closer to 100 posts
Show both an understanding of the way the community works as well as a commitment to being a part of it. Those who fear the “spam” issue, odds are a new person throwing down a bunch of spam for their comments will likely get booted before throwing down a bunch of meaningless fan posts.
In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!
Gotta say if someone does not care about spelling or proper use of the English language
then you’re at the mercy of those that do when you put it out on a public forum. That being said…..what exactly was the point of this post?
Happy Valentine’s Day to everybody!
"God made Majnun love Layla so much that just her dog would cause confusion in him."
The Many Wines-Rumi
"theraja" is almost definitely a joke account, right?
I refuse to believe that opening paragraph is not deliberately absurd.
I hereby declare everyone a suspect.
I figured he was just a big Rajai Davis fan
Wait, you’re right it is a joke account. Raj fans don’t exist.
rebuildingseason.blogspot.com
by Rebuilding Season on Feb 14, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
WHAT??? The guy hitted a grand slam homerun!!!111
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, I root for Mr. Davis...
Gottaproblemwiddat?
(and yes, that is the correct spelling of ’gottaproblemwiddat’)
"The magical goblins who live in my shower told me that Bobby Crosby's gonna have a good year this year" - The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 15, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
I thought he was just a fan of the British Raj
"Andy? Oh! My! God! Andy! You're dead! How did this happen? You were so young! Its all my fault! I should have seen the warning signs! I didn't even know you were smoking! It works so fast! You had so much to live for! So much exploding to do! Oh God! Who will blow stuff up now? I don't want to live in a world with out exploding! You hear that God? Are you proud of yourself? Now that you've created a world with no large explosions! Why couldn't you just take Tucker instead. He can't explode. At least I don't think he can. But even if he could, it wouldn't be the same. Andy's exploding was special. Why God? Why?! Oh Andy!" - Caboose on Andy the Bomb's 'death'.
Just wanted to out-ridiculous signature you...
I believe in the Church of Baseball. I've tried all the major religions, and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I heard that, I gave Jesus a chance. But it just didn't work out between us. The Lord laid too much guilt on me. I prefer metaphysics to theology. You see, there's no guilt in baseball, and it's never boring... which makes it like sex. There's never been a ballplayer slept with me who didn't have the best year of his career. Making love is like hitting a baseball: you just gotta relax and concentrate. Besides, I'd never sleep with a player hitting under .250... not unless he had a lot of RBIs and was a great glove man up the middle. You see, there's a certain amount of life wisdom I give these boys. I can expand their minds. Sometimes when I've got a ballplayer alone, I'll just read Emily Dickinson or Walt Whitman to him, and the guys are so sweet, they always stay and listen. 'Course, a guy'll listen to anything if he thinks it's foreplay. I make them feel confident, and they make me feel safe, and pretty. 'Course, what I give them lasts a lifetime; what they give me lasts 142 games. Sometimes it seems like a bad trade. But bad trades are part of baseball - now who can forget Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas, for God's sake? It's a long season and you gotta trust. I've tried 'em all, I really have, and the only church that truly feeds the soul, day in, day out, is the Church of Baseball. - Annie Savoy in Bull Durham
by HigherPie on Feb 14, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good lord those are long siglines
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Feb 14, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
What about me?
Diary of an AOL User.
July 18 - I just tried to connect to America Online. I've heard it is the best online service I can get. They even included a free disk! I'd better hold onto it incase they don't ever send me anther one! I can't connect. I don't know what is wrong.
July 19 - Some guy at the tech support center says my computer needs a modem. I don't see why. He's just trying to cheat me. How dumb does he think I am?
July 22 - I bought the modem. I couldn't figure out where it goes. It wouldn't fit in the monitor or the printer. I'm confused.
July 23 - I finally got the modem in and hooked up. that nine year old next door did it for me. But it still don't work. I cant get online.
July 25 - That nine year old kid next door hooked me up to America Online for me. He's so smart. I told the kid he was a prodigy. But he says that's just another service. What a modest kid. He's so smart and he does these services for people. Anyway he's smarter then the jerks who sold me the modem. They didn't even tell me about communications software. Bet they didn't know. And why do they put two telephone jack holes in the back of a modem when you only need one? And why do they have one labeled phone when you are not suppose to hook it to the phone jack on the wall? I thought the dial tone sounded funny! Boy, are modem makers dumb! But the kid figured it out by the sound.
July 26 - What's the internet? I thought I was on America Online. Not this internet thing. I'm confused.
July 27 - The nine year old kid next door showed me how to use this America Online stuff. I told him he must be a genius. He says that he is compared to me. Maybe he's not so modest after all.
July 28 - I tried to use chat today. I tried to talk into my computer but nothing happened. maybe I need to buy a microphone.
July 29 - I found this thing called usenet. I got out of it because I'm connected to America Online not usenet.
July 30 - These people in this usenet thing keep using capital letters. How do they do that? I never figured out how to type capital letters. Maybe they have a different type of keyboard.
JULY 31 - I CALLED THE COMPUTER MAKER I BOUGHT IT FROM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT HAVING A CAPITOL LETTER KEY. THE TECH SUPPORT GUY SAID IT WAS THIS CAPS LOCK KEY. WHY DIDN'T THEY SPELL IT OUT? I TOLD HIM I GOT A CHEAP KEYBOARD AND WANTED A BETTER ONE. AND ONE OF MY SHIFT KEYS ISNT THE SAME SIZE AS THE OTHER. HE SAID THATS A STANDARD. I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T WANT A STANDARD KEYBOARD BUT ANOTHER BRAND. I MUST HAVE HAD AN IMPORTANT COMPLAINT BECAUSE I HEARD HIM TELL THE OTHER SUPPORT GUYS TO LISTEN IN ON OUR CONVERSATION.
AUGUST 1 - I FOUND THIS THING CALLED THE USENET ORACLE. IT SAYS THAT IT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I ASK IT. I SENT IT 44 SEPARATE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTERNET. I HOPE IT RESPONDS SOON.
AUGUST 2 - I FOUND A GROUP CALLED REC.HUMOR. I DECIDED TO POST THIS JOKE ABOUT THE CHICKEN THAT CROSSED THE ROAD. TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE! HA! HA! I WASNT SURE I POSTED IT RIGHT SO I POSTED IT 56 MORE TIMES.
AUGUST 3 - I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE WORLD WIDE WEB. I DON'T NOW SPIDERS GREW THAT LARGE.
AUGUST 4 - THE ORACLE RESPONDED TO MY QUESTIONS TODAY. GEEZ IT WAS RUDE. I WAS SO ANGRY THAT I POSTED AN ANGRY MESSAGE ABOUT IT TO REC.HUMOR.ORACLE. I WASNT SURE IF I POSTED RIGHT SO I POSTED IT 22 MORE TIMES.
AUGUST 5 - SOMEONE TOLD ME TO READ THE FAQ. GEEZ THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO USE PROFANITY.
AUGUST 6 - SOMEONE ELSE TOLD ME TO STOP SHOUTING IN ALL MY MESSAGES. WHAT A STUPID JERK. IM NOT SHOUTING! IM NOT EVEN TALKING! JUST TYPING! HOW CAN THEY LET THESE RUDE JERKS GO ON THE INTERNET?
August 7 - Why have a Caps Lock key if you're not suppose to use it? Its probably an extra feature that costs more money.
August 8 - I just read this post called make money fast. I'm so exited. I'm going to make lots of money. I followed his instructions and posted it to every newsgroup I could find.
August 9 - I just made my signature file. Its only 6 pages long. I will have to work on it some more.
August 10 - I just looked at a group called alt.aol.sucks. I read a few posts and I really believe that aol should be wiped off the face of the earth. I wonder what an aol is.
August 11 - I was asking where to find some information about something. Some guy told me to check out ftp.netcom.com. I've looked and looked but I can't find that group.
August 12 - I sent a post to every usenet group on the Internet asking where the ftp.netcom.com is. hopefully someone will help. I cant ask the kid next door. His parents said that when he comes back from my house he's laughing so hard he can't eat or sleep or do his homework. So they wont let him come over anymore. I do have a great sense of humor. I don't know why the rec.humor group didn't like my chicken joke. Maybe they only like dirty stuff. Some people sent me posts about my 56 posts of the joke and they used bad words.
August 13 - I sent another post to every usenet group on the Internet asking where the ftp.netcom.com is. I had forgot yesterday to include my new signature file which is only 8 pages long. I know everyone will want to read my favorite poem so I included it. I'm also going to add that short story I like.
August 14 - Some guy suspended my account because of what I was doing. I told him I don't have an account at his bank. He's so dumb.
by Zonis on Feb 14, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
T's definitely not WSS :-(
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I can make it longer
I tried with preview with Moby Dick.
It got up to about 16 pages + the really long intro to the txt. So maybe around 30 pages?
Chicago. Where the Dead can Vote. Where the Voters of Tomorrow are found in the Obituaries of Today.
The Diary of an AOL User
is a pretty old joke txt from the mid-late 90’s.
Chicago. Where the Dead can Vote. Where the Voters of Tomorrow are found in the Obituaries of Today.
If he's a Rajai Davis fan
you can’t really blame him for his bad grammatical skills.
I mean, “Rajai”? WTF is that?
Never, Never, NEVER give up
"I hereby declare everyone a suspect."
Truly a herculean assertion but I think the post was genuine and while the murder of language, grammar and spelling on AN may be the single most disorienting and annoying thing for some members, reading the ensuing expressions of corrections and criticisms is at least as tiresome. It’s like going to Hawaii and watching poi rot.
Caramel Swirl
joke/troll
Actually pretty well done, but he slips out of character occasionally.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
This is the greatest thread ever.
This is also why people who don’t read comments miss out on the greatest part of the Blogging experience.
rebuildingseason.blogspot.com
by Rebuilding Season on Feb 14, 2009 2:30 PM PST reply actions
theraja was brought in this world
by
Ralph B
but dont worry
hey ppl
i dont c wats wrong wit typin like this i mean its rly quick and it makes me feel more comfotable bcuz its just like me talkin to my frends on aim!!! mayb u guys shuld just accept this and not b criticizin as much bcuz som ppl like me just prefer to type my words like this and save a bunch of miliseconds wile doin so!!!!
/sarcasm
Say something funny.
The best part is, that probably took you twice as long to type
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
heh actually no
as a 15 yr old kid this is actually pretty natural to me just as if i were on aim with all my frends, usually here on an i try to spell everythin correctly and use proper grammar but yea, this doesnt rly take me much time at all. XDDD
Say something funny.
Do you know Cindi?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
We just need phones that suck less.
Then people won’t need to text as crappily.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
were all speaking the same language
Its seems we can understand each other quite well, or we could’d have such great discussions
"could'd" - a contraction for the less commonly spelled out
“could dod.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I believe it's actually "could did"
Thereby the phrase “could did not” could be contracted to could’dn’t
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Feb 14, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
I tossed a few posts
on to this thread cuz i didn’t feel like grading papers…then figured i better go to the coffee store and get the papers marked…not realizing it would turn into the Greatest Grammar Thread Evar!!
"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin
Just to show the willinness of my research
I stated an oponion on a non baseball matter then asked about matter concerning baseball.
Your intitled to you're oponion
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Honest question
Are you an ESL student?
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
come on, really?
Ok, fair enough, but it’s sorta past time to identify as that.
"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King
by Buck Turgidson on Feb 14, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I cant quite understand
ESL?, did you misspell this and why all caps?
thats beatiful
The way you wrote that, you are an awsome.
I get it ESL and not EAASL becasue you didn’t capitise those becasue their not import
but I think
as and a are Important
they are used alot more than english and second and language
so why are the not capitalised?
Probably because you seem to be a troll
Last of the Ninth - Photography Site / jamesvenes.com - Blog
*fewer* intelligence
I’m curious to see how all this works itself out. Does the careless poster get banned? Clearly he can’t seem to be shamed into submission. What is a moderator to do?
Boy, spring training had better get here quickly.
Save Rajai Davis
Sometimes for a while trolls are more entertaining than
watching Josh Outman and Rob Bowen play catch.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Then ban him for not being here
for the 2nd half of last season.
In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!
he thinks sports bloggers are wimps
who hide behind screen names
Please ban
And be done with this. The entertainment has run its course.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
Ban a fanpost with 120 comments?
I was thinking of giving raja a front page gig.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You don't have to ban the fanpost
Ban the user. It’s obvious he’s been using DDPs (Drugs Detrimental to Performance)
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Feb 14, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
You can turn the other cheek
You can just give up the ship
You can eat a bunch of sushi then forget to leave a tip
by LoneStranger on Feb 16, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
There's a lot of things
being taken too seriously in here.
RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.
Sewiouswy, you can't be sewiouws.
"Here are your orders for winning the war: Eliminate The Enemy. Okay, also, try to do better than you are currently doing. And please win. Thank you."
"Here" being life in general, right?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
WE'RE ALL GUNNA DIE!
Chicago. Where the Dead can Vote. Where the Voters of Tomorrow are found in the Obituaries of Today.
In Soviet Russia, your composure keeps you.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
You mean bestest.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
your no good at thistest?
Chicago. Where the Dead can Vote. Where the Voters of Tomorrow are found in the Obituaries of Today.
I don't believe She really exists.
Actually, I’m unsure. I suppose that makes me hagnostic.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I came into this thread thinking...
the A’s were putting out a team “We are the World (Series)” video… only to find out it’s a grammarian bitch-fest. If there were an “de-recommend” button, I’d hit it.
Very disappointing.
Clowns to the left of me... Jokers to the right...
I thought it was going to be another
post putting A’s-oriented lyrics to a pop song — this one being to The Beatles’ “And your bird can sing.” I was glad to be wrong.
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
but, definitely +1 on Nico's frontpage idea...
for theraga. This place needs some alternative voices. Don’t want it to become too much like a presidential cabinet, after all. That would eliminate all the fun.
Clowns to the left of me... Jokers to the right...
by FoolshGame22 on Feb 15, 2009 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, another lyrics diary...
I woulda immediately clicked outta that. Not my cup of tea.
Clowns to the left of me... Jokers to the right...
by FoolshGame22 on Feb 15, 2009 12:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
or, maybe I shoulda hit reply to humdinger...
woulda been good.
Clowns to the left of me... Jokers to the right...
by FoolshGame22 on Feb 15, 2009 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
yet you choose lyrics for your sigline ...
The Foolsh Paradox
Toasted Almond
by Ice Cream on Feb 15, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
100% Serious for a sec...
I make my fair share of grammatical and spelling mistakes here.
But when I first saw the post’s headline, I honestly thought it was about singing, either literally or as in “One of the A’s is singing, i.e., ratting out another A’s player.”
So, to some degree, spelling really does matter.
BTW, Firefox does a nice job of spell checking.
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
Whereas Cindi really doesn't.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
she can't get even get her own name right
not that I’m bitter about the unreturned texts or anything.
I'm here to talk about the past.
all your base are belong to us.
or should i say bases!
"I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul." - Ichiro on Matsuzaka
by ConditionOakland on Feb 15, 2009 11:07 AM PST reply actions
Love the fact
That this post has brought about more comments than almost every front-page story in the past week.
I'm here to talk about the past.
game threads are going to be so fun this year. :)
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Feb 15, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
yes thay ar!
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Feb 15, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder ...
with the advent of ON DEMAND, will participation in the game threads dwindle as people tailor their game watching to off times that better suit their schedules?
Toasted Almond
I really doubt it -
there’s nothing like following a game when it’s actually happening.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Is Comcast giving all A's games
ON DEMAND now?! JC, I need to move out of this shithole.
"Hot Goat Kraut Pants Day"--Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 15, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
It's "pujols"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
One rec is for "train" and the other two are for fun
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Train FunFun?
Has Stomper been replaced?
Did the Wolff sell us to a Japanese businessman?
"Hot Goat Kraut Pants Day"--Monkeyball
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 15, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
This will be the highlight of my day.
Wait for the the 2009 Oaklands A's season to start I can not. Herh herh herh.
I decided to check AN a couple of hours ago
because I was between homework assignments, and I hadn’t checked AN for a few days. I mean, I wasn’t really procrastinating, just taking a little bit of a break…
After reading all the comments in this thread, I’ve decided that I am officially procrastinating. And I don’t even get to hear the A’s singing.
Ray: "How fun is it to be up here playing in the Big Leagues?"
Gio: "It's *SUPER* fun!!!"
Did anyone else see the movie "Idiocracy"?
This may be the most clever post ever, but it might be the dumbest, I can’t tell.
I should have used a semicolon at least once in that statement. Semicolons are hard. Grammar are hard too.
by somebodyelse on Feb 17, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
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