DLD for 2/11/09 Hoax and wtf edition
by A'sfaninNC on Feb 11, 2009 11:25 AM PST
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What in the wide world of sports is going on here people? We are all going to die. Well that maybe is a bit much but let’s see what’s going on today...
It appears that swimming 250 miles is the same as swimming 2100 miles as long as you stay in the water for at least 21 minutes and do not go in until 45 minutes after eating.
The football rules committee of the NHFS is keeping innovation out of high school football. So take that and put it in Michael Phelps bong and smoke (what too soon?) it all you out there that want to see something different in high school sports.
And finally wtf is going on here. I don’t know if she is being bitter or what but my goodness.
Oh and there some kind of game being played tonight in Durham NC. It has something to do with two teams and trying to but a ball in something called a basket. I don’t know, sounds interesting so I might give it a look.
Dump Away. Its fun and everyone is trying it.
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US play Mexico today at soccerball
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9205142/Donovan-mum-about-his-future-ahead-of-qualifier
highlariously, a US win could get Sven Goran Eriksson fired, and then he’d end up and Chelsea and screw things up there.
I care about this, k?
Billy Beane loves soccerball, and so should you
by alea iacta est on Feb 11, 2009 11:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What channel? I need to TIVO it.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Feb 11, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind, found it. ESPN2.
Attention AT&T U-verse: Stop sucking and give me Fox Soccer and GOL TV.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Feb 11, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i concur with this statement
and setanta would be nice, too.
kick off is at 4pm, one of my friends is living blogging (if that’s your thing), here
Billy Beane loves soccerball, and so should you
by alea iacta est on Feb 11, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure you've got your
voodoo dolls of the US players, sponsored by Radioshack Blockbuster.
(hat-tip Burro Hall)
by green star oakland on Feb 11, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chelsea unlikely
Reports in England are connecting Eriksson with Portsmouth rather than Chelsea. The Russian coach Hiddink has been appointed as Chelsea coach, but only until the end of this season.
Any similarity between my spelling and that deemed correct, is pureley accidental.
by Dalesman on Feb 11, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, think abramovic has a boner for eriksson
he tried to get him before in comical style whilst he was managing england.
failing that, it’ll be ancelotti, who wants out of meeelan.
Billy Beane loves soccerball, and so should you
by alea iacta est on Feb 11, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Comcast Sportsnet California deal to be announced
Probably today at the Giants-A’s joint media luncheon. I got a note from Ken Arneson, formerly of Catfish Stew. According to his DVR, the channel will now occupy 89 on your Comcast box, #1 in your heart.
Also, I went to the San Jose Chamber of Commerce breakfast today. Nothing really new there, but you can read my messy liveblog of the event anyway. Wolff hinted at the Comcast deal during the event.
by vertig0 on Feb 11, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the updates and hard work!
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Feb 11, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Dunn is a Nat
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/02/nationals-adam.html
"May our feet be swift. May our bats be mighty. And may our balls be...plentiful."
by nothinlikethetown on Feb 11, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better a Nat than a Gnat
"Warm Springs Infernal" - FSU, 2/6/09 DLD
by doctorK on Feb 11, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Roberto Alomar has AIDS?
There are some pretty serious, and very sad, allegations in this lawsuit by his ex-girlfriend:
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Feb 11, 2009 11:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The first paragraph is ridiculous
They basically say it as fact to get everyone’s attention when at this point nobody knows for sure except for the people involved. God I hate NY media.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Feb 11, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless I'm misunderstanding...
the lawsuit is ridiculous. Whoever wrote the headline to that article obviously didn’t RTFA. The suit alleges Alomar did not know he had HIV/AIDS when they were having unprotected sex, and they stopped once he was tested. She’s suing him for emotional distress and “exposing her children the virus”. Wtf?
by AgitationStation on Feb 11, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, she does not have hiv....
it can be profitable to sue rich people even with a bad case, though…
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Feb 11, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this is clearly a blackmail/nuisance lawsuit
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
the suit claims that he did know, or should have known, that he had HIV/AIDS. If what she alleges is true, than this lawsuit isn’t all that ridiculous.
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
by humdinger on Feb 11, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
She doesn’t have AIDS. Kindly show damages, other than her 15 minutes being shortened, and her paycheck flying away
by As Fan in the Bronx on Feb 11, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
I’ll have to call my Court St friends, but I’d though Emotional Damages were only adjunct damages, not primary.
by As Fan in the Bronx on Feb 11, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She's claiming emotional distress as her damages.
Now, I can’t remember, but it could be that emotional distress alone is not an actionable damage without some physical manifestation in a negligence case (unless they’re parasitic on top of some other physical injury). I’m pretty sure that they can stand alone without physical manifestations in an intentional infliction of distress case. Where’s my Barbri review book when I need it.
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
by humdinger on Feb 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IIED requires objectively outrageous behavior
which would probably mandate something like what I outlined a little below this post (fraud/malice).
I have to say, I find it more than a little hard to believe that someone could have survived untreated AIDS for 20-odd years. This whole thing doesn’t ring right at all.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, now you know the exact date alomar was infected with HIV? are you mexican?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Feb 11, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Mexican enough
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know.
But we’re talking damages.
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
by humdinger on Feb 11, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If:
He knew he had AIDS,
She DIDN’T know he had AIDS,
He solicited her for unprotected sex, and
He lied about not having AIDS to induce her to do so
she might have a case. Frankly, I don’t believe that to be the case. Otherwise this should either be dismissed or return a verdict of like $5.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Say it with me, folks: "con-trib-u-to-ry neg-li-gence"
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
con-trib-u-to-ry neg-li-gee
"They’re a grubby looking bunch of caterwaulers" -Crazy Old Dude.
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 11, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Guilty as charged.
What’s your prescription, doctor?
"They’re a grubby looking bunch of caterwaulers" -Crazy Old Dude.
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 11, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
con-trib...
I can’t! Not very nice, Paul.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Feb 11, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When you say it like that,
I imagine you as John Cage from Ally McBeal. What’s your theme song?
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 11, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My theme song is the Lecture on Nothing
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The other John Cage
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 11, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another link, The Smoking Gun
I'm a happy seal
by SwisherThresher on Feb 11, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al Clark = Virologist
Considered one of baseball’s greatest second basemen, Alomar stirred controversy in 1996 by spitting in the face of umpire John Hirschbeck.
The incident prompted fellow ump Al Clark to say, “If I were John, I’d insist that Robbie Alomar take an AIDS test.”
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Feb 11, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a likely source of transmission.
But still, I’ve had this happen to me before. Odds take on a different context when you’re the one facing them.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Feb 11, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"I'd insist that Robbie Alomar take an AIDS test."
You mean HIV, Al?
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Feb 11, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Odds of someone else being infected: zero
Odds of you being infected: zero
Seems to me those odds should take on the same context either way.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait till it happens to you.
Your view may change. Objectively, you know that the odds of transmission are pretty much nil. On the other hand, there may have been blood in the saliva, in which case the odds go up slightly. Very slightly. Then again, were you hit in the eyes? Any shaving nicks that morning?
There is an immediate treatment, but it has to be initiated within two hours of the possible exposure. Problem is, the medications used make you sicker than a dog and are probably doing damage to your liver and you have to take the medications for a lengthy period of time.
The whole experience sucks ass.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Feb 11, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude,
I would flip out if that happened to me. I don’t care what the odds are — it’s hard to rationalize away that kind of fear.
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
by humdinger on Feb 11, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
You start thinking about the possibility that you’re infected and will end up infecting your wife. Then you wonder what would happen to the kids. You have to take HIV tests, and then you have to suffer through the court process of forcing the idiot that spit/slung blood to undergo a forced test. Then you wait for the results, and then you get to do the whole thing over again in six months. All the while experiencing sickness from the meds. It’s hard to put into the words the fear that eats at you. All the talk of odds does nothing to negate your fear.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Feb 11, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Any shaving nicks that morning?
Depends on which you’re talkin’ ’bout …
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by monkeyball on Feb 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly gives the song "Monday Morning" a new meaning
“First you love me, and then you say it’s wrong
You know I can’t go on believing for long”
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Feb 11, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If this kind of attitude wasn't responsible for the horrible stigma and discrimination AIDS victims face,
I’d laugh it off as you just being irrationally germophobic, like I do when my mom says something panicky about mad cow disease.
Since it is responsible for said stigma, however, this response makes me want to reach through the internet and brain you with a textbook. Not to mince words: get over it.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 11, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
as a germophobe i may be biased, but i think you’re kind of being a dick here.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Feb 11, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, I would have pegged you as a germophile
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by monkeyball on Feb 11, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some of what your saying is true.
I was living it back in the day and witnessed first hand the stigma that went hand in hand with HIV. It’s unfortunate, but the reality is if you’ve ever seen a human being suffering through the final stages of HIV, you damn sure don’t want to be one of them and will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid being exposed. Whether you like it or not, that’s a perfectly legitimate reaction.
It’s easy for someone to run their mouth, it’s altogether different when you’re the one who is potentially going to suffer. The risk is of transmission is real, or at least so says the AMA, CDC, and OSHA. Otherwise, the treatment wouldn’t be offered in the first place. Get over it? I’d rather be 100 percent positive that I have nothing to get over.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Feb 11, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say,
I side with Paul on this one. There are so many other tiny risks that are less negligible than getting AIDS from being spit on, so it’s just weird to see a couple people getting all whipped up into a frenzy over it. I’d list a few, but I don’t want to freak out the genuine germophobes, but seriously … this just makes no sense except as an irrational reaction based on scaremongering.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 11, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Geez, I hope I'm not
coming across as histrionic. I certainly don’t mean too. For clarity’s sake, I don’t think that spit making contact with unbroken skin constitutes an exposure. In the eyes or mouth, perhaps. For that matter, I don’t think a blood splash on unbroken skin is deemed an exposure.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Feb 12, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for clarifying
The way the conversation developed it wasn’t clear.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 12, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and I thought you were the hypochondriac!
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Feb 11, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused. Is she saying that
he raped her? Because if she’s not, then what’s the deal with he “insisted” on unprotected sex? OK, so he insists. You’re an adult. Just say no.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 11, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever tried to say no to Robbie Alomar?
Who’s really the victim here?
he was raped by two Mexican men after playing a ballgame in New Mexico or a Southwestern state when he was 17
by methodrampage on Feb 11, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Um.
Can we hurry the eff up with baseball already?
"They’re a grubby looking bunch of caterwaulers" -Crazy Old Dude.
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 11, 2009 12:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
as A's fans, shouldn't we 'urry the 'Eck up?
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by monkeyball on Feb 11, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the Tadcaster A's?
Billy Beane loves soccerball, and so should you
by alea iacta est on Feb 11, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
csnca 140 A's games for 09
no mention of hd games though
by Asfan4ever723 on Feb 11, 2009 3:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I see lots of HD games
http://bayarea.comcastsportsnet.com/teams/oakland-as/as-broadcast-schedule/
Dogfood Gangstas
Canned or Dry,
We Neva Die.
by Zonis on Feb 11, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Birthday 3.0!
I wanted to try and do a first-ever DLD this morning, but alas work sucks (but it’s better than the alternative, especially with a new reorg announcement at the ol’ office today.)
It was one year ago today that we all lost our IDs, and had to learn what the heck a FaNpOsT was. Other notes:
No one has asked AN 3.0 to kiss anyone’s ass since August. (And no one has told it to kiss Sal’s ass since February)
Topics of discussion: The A’s sign Mike Sweeney!!! Blanton to Dodgers!!!
We made our biggest ever latin America signing-for a cool $350,000. (This one I find really funny given our new record for a latin america signee.)
And-for old times sake….CLOCKWERKS
So I believe we should all go out tonight and have a cold one with a piece of cake.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Feb 11, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
laroche and ethier for blanton
do it beane!!
by Asfan4ever723 on Feb 11, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ANers who have seemingly vanished into thin air:
- Randy Bell
- Blicks
Anybody else?
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Feb 11, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I miss Randy Bell
I was lurking when he came around and he actually was part of the reason I took the plunge. I figured if I guy who seemed as nice as he did could survive for a while here, an inconsiderate jerk like me would be ok.
He also was great at giving us NRAFs complete PxP during spring training.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Feb 11, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Bell, Robert Baun
Wait a minute …
by green star oakland on Feb 11, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ANers who I wish would vanish into thin air:
I kid, I kid.
by pam5981 on Feb 11, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gasp!
They vanished!
Dogfood Gangstas
Canned or Dry,
We Neva Die.
by Zonis on Feb 11, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's like a Twilight Zone!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Feb 11, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to respond to ...
Hey, wait! Where’d I go? <vanishes>
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on Feb 11, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
heck of a first half, eh, FSU?
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by monkeyball on Feb 11, 2009 6:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
a better second half, eh?
US over mexico, UNC over duke, this was a good sports day.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Feb 11, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that Mexico-US game was pretty good
But, man, when will the US ever develop an imaginative playmaker? And it’s always amazing to me watching the US squad make endless 5-yard passes while their opponents make 10-25-yard passes.
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley had a heck of a game
The conditions were’nt great for imaginative playmaking, but I was very impressed with Bradley both defensively and offensively. Even not counting the goal, Bradley had a couple really great passes to try and put Beasley through on goal.
by DiegoAsFan on Feb 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
true, true
Beasley is fast—he just zipped right past the defenders a couple times.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am amazed that Coach K decided to run with Carolina
And it wore them down in the end (easy to say in retrospect, I know). But Duke played a great first half, maybe as good as they can play. If Carolina can learn how to paly 40 whole minutes of defense instead of like 15 or so, they’re going to be awfully hard for anyone to beat.
I’m also amazed that Hansbrough and Danny Green are now 4-0 in Durham in their careers. I’d have thought that impossible, though I guess Tim Duncan managed the trick with Wake in his day.
"There is a sense of tragic destiny associated with people who have large noses." --Bucky Wunderlick
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 11, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Coach K is pretty lousy at in-game tactics
His teams always tend to panic when they fall behind (shooting 3s isn’t a viable option if that’s the only thing you;re trying to do), and he never seems to grasp that the opposing coach may have some ideas of his own. Plus, Duke big men suck.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really irritated by the fact
that Coach K plundered Miles Plumlee from Stanford after Stanford changed coaches— from his own ex-assistant, no less— and has then proceeded to play him like five minutes all season when Stanford could really have used another forward.
Grrr.
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 12, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of related:
Apparently the Maryland basketball program has lapsed into mediocrity because Gary Williams won’t sell his soul to shoe companies and AAU hucksters:
The funneling of cash recruiting inducements between colleges and AAU or high school coaches, in the form of tax-deductible donations usually made by college athletic boosters at the behest of the coach, has become common, according to several prominent college and AAU coaches.
[…]
“Nobody has ever accused me of cheating in recruiting in my career,” Williams said. “That is a good thing, supposedly. But people turn that around and say, ‘He won’t play the game.’ You do it [my] way, and you are criticized for not cheating.”
1. The article assiduously refrains from accusing anyone in particular of unethical practices, while simultaneously indicting, well, everyone but Gary Williams.
Why do we feel compelled to cling to generalities here? Why can’t we just say out loud that Jim Calhoun is a crook? I know that would make Dick Vitale’s head explode, but I think we’d all survive (Dickie V included).
2. The ritual veneration of multimillionaire college coaches as selfless, straight arrow molders of men is absurd in the extreme, and serves only to cloak rank allegiance to winning in the gauzy ideals of mentoring and scholarship. The next time I see a soft-focus CBS special with Coach K carving a turkey for his team or something, I’m liable to kick a hole in the television.
3. I wonder how many steroid tut-tutters also just love NCAA basketball?
by 74mk on Feb 12, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
8-year-olds, Dude
Recruiting analysts now rank 10-year-olds, and organizers conduct national tournaments for 8-year-olds, some of them so short their shorts reach their socks.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"some of them so short their shorts reach their socks. "
ahem.
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Feb 12, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, that is a hem on those shorts
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they should just pay the players. the ncaa is a joke....
Also, the traditional sort of violation where boosters buy the recruit a car or something makes a lot more sense than giving a bunch of money to intermediaries.
But I can’t see much reason to get riled up about Calhoun or anyone else bending/breaking various absurd rules…
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Feb 12, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another way of saying that is....
If Coach X finds a way to funnel some money to his recruits and Williams refuses, I don’t have much problem with Coach X, and not much sympathy for Williams.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Feb 12, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
amen to both of your posts
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree:
1. The NCAA/schools should absolutely just pay the players a salary. In the current arrangement, everyone (networks, sponsors, schools, coaches) gets rich except the kids.
2. As with the war on drugs and the war on teen sexuality and all our other wars on things it’s definitionally impossible to be at war against, the consequences of our moralism are a thousand times more damaging than the sins we’re trying to mitigate. We can’t wrap our heads around giving these kids a paycheck because it might wreck our fantasies about the student athlete utopia or something, so instead we cultivate this architecture of subterfuge and parasitism and inequity. It’s frakking stupid.
But:
1. You don’t find it at all problematic that would-be agents are pimping kids to coaches as early as fifth grade? When these seventeen year-old boys are making commitment decisions, whose interests do you think are best represented – their own, or those of the various hyper-concerned hangers on in their lives?
2. I’m not ready to sign on to the idea that Jim Calhoun, et al are innocent cogs in the wheel doing their gosh darnedest to conduct themselves ethically within an imperfect system. I think they rather like the system as it is. I think the system as it is allocates them a bigger share of the pie (money and authority) than would be the case in a regulated pay for play system. I think they actively facilitate the system’s perpetuation. Also, I think I am starting to sound like Mario Savio, which means I should probably quit while I’m ahead.
by 74mk on Feb 12, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta disagree with your second point.
the consequences of our moralism are a thousand times more damaging than the sins we’re trying to mitigate.
I’m sure you’ve got your reasons to believe this, but I’ve got my own reasons to believe that it’s a crock of hooey.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Feb 12, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t mean it quite as starkly as I said it, perhaps (I was in quasi-rant mode, after all … I can be forgiven a bit of PT-esque indignation, no?). Also, it’s possible you and I ascribe somewhat different connotations to the word “sin”.
To rephrase the fragment you quoted, I meant: the consequences of institutionalized moralism, in circumstances such as the ones I cited (e.g. the “war on drugs”), are often substantially more damaging than the originally targeted ills.
I’m definitely not making an argument against moral standards per se, or against codifying such standards (yes, monkeyball, I know what it means).
by 74mk on Feb 12, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if I read too much into that, or misunderstood.
And thanks for the clarification. It’s a bit of a sensitive subject for me, though I do disdain institutionalized moralism, especially when those who shout the loudest often are found guilty of the same thing they profess to abhor.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Feb 12, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
f---ing statheads.
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Feb 13, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Players are getting paid
Some of the tuition costs per year are more than most of these guys would make outside of college (without a degree).
by methodrampage on Feb 13, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, I can't get behind that sentiment
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
toupee?
not really polish?
on steroids?
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Feb 12, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
not really polish?
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not polish enough?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Feb 12, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Elgin Baylor - douchebag
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3901091
He ran the biggest joke of a sports franchise (sorry, Lions fans, you don’t even win this award) for two decades and he thinks he was fired because he’s black? Or because he’s old? Everybody on the planet felt he should’ve been fired a decade and a half ago.
What a judge should do with a lawsuit like this, barring some kind of proof where the Clippers owner called him the N-word on a daily basis, is make Baylor pay the Clippers. Just destroy the person for what appears to be an obviously frivolous lawsuit. Yes, i’m vindictive.
by thejd44 on Feb 11, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the Clippers
the most unsuccessful pro sports franchise in the history of the universe? If it is, that’s something.
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
by humdinger on Feb 12, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is someone missing a book?
Because I have one that doesn’t belong to me, from the fANfest. Email me if you want it.
"You have to score to win"~Rickey Henderson
by lynnzgal on Feb 11, 2009 8:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can't find my copy of The Crying of Lot 49
Is that the one you have? I wasn’t at fanfest, but, you know, leaving my book there would be just the kind of thing that they would do to drive me crazy.
"There is a sense of tragic destiny associated with people who have large noses." --Bucky Wunderlick
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 11, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for tomorrow 'cause I've had enough
by andeux on Feb 12, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just how big is the Coliseum parking facility?
I didn’t know they even had a lot 49.
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu
expects to play left field for the LAAA’s next year. God, I hope that happens.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3902531
"Good or bad, I don't know. This is awesome." ~Nick Swisher after being asked if it was wise to poor beer on Lew Wolfe's head.
by humdinger on Feb 12, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Feb 12, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bud talks about ARod:
Don’t have a strong opinion either way on the steroid issue, but the one thing that does tick me off is Bud. Like he really gets to say that ARod “shamed the game” by taking steroids? Even if some people believe this is true, Bud has done enough during the steroid era to allow it to happen that he needs to just STFU and let the process play out.
I mean if some journalist, or a fellow ballplayer, want to call out ARod (as Roy Oswalt did) I wouldn’t really care. But, Bud’s whole “innocent – we didn’t know” act is not only ridiculous, it insults my intelligence.
by AsFanInLA on Feb 12, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good thing he didn't say this to Congressional investigators
Eradicating performance-enhancing substances from the game of baseball has been my first priority over the past decade
I’m sure there are boatloads of subpoena-able MLB documents that prove otherwise.
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Selig is an idiot.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Feb 12, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
He’s venal and fatuous and scrupulously untruthful, but he’s not an idiot.
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by monkeyball on Feb 12, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what those words mean but OK
I guess I could look them up . . . nah!
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Feb 12, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
curt schilling
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
by travdog6 on Feb 12, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you're kidding
Man’s got an opinion on Barack’s socks, too.
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Feb 12, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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