A's Playing It Quiet But Seem To Be Extremely Active
by nocal81(Vincent) on Dec 4, 2009 7:32 PM PST
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First an A's-Royals trade broke down that would have brought Alberto Callaspo to Oakland link , some people had even suggested that David Dejesus was involved in these conversations. Even though the deal broke down many think the two sides my continue conversations in the coming days. Then the A's traded for Jake Fox and Aaron Miles, assuming 1.8 million of Miles contract. For a team supposedly without much financial flexibility this seems a bit curious to say the least. And now reports are surfacing all over the web that Oakland did in fact offer Marco Scutaro 3 years and slightly more money then he eventually signed with Boston link . This is also a curious move considering many assumed that Oakland was willing to let Pennington have the job full time heading into the 2010 season, according to this report the A's would have then moved him to a utility role. It is also of common belief that Oakland was negotiating with Scutaro even with the knowledge that they were most likely going to acquire both Fox and Miles. What does this mean?
1. It is obvious that Oakland's brass isn't sold on Pennington as the starting SS, even short term. So where does this bring us in regards to that position? Is a Miguel Tejada reunion likely? Maybe even Orlando Cabrera or another free agent or trade option.
2. Billy Beans said don't expect the A's to be real active in the free agent market. But by going after Scutaro, the highest rated FA at his position is Beane playing his typical games with the public?
3. What does this mean for both Adam Kennedy and Mark Ellis? With the acquisitions of Fox and Miles i am not sure there is any room for either player on the A's. This assuming they are looking at other options for 2nd base and Short stop as is evidenced by the interest in Scutaro and Callespo. Are the A's going to be looking for a younger alternative at 2nd? At least until Weeks is ready. And are they going to trade Ellis while not offering Kennedy a contract. Just a couple weeks ago it seemed that our starting infield was to consist of Pennington and Ellis but at this point i would doubt that very much.
4. Oakland didn't give up any heralded prospect in the trade with the Cubs. But they did take on nearly 2 million dollars in acquiring Aaron Miles. So where are we really in terms of a payroll for the 2010 season? Could the A's sign a starter for between 7-10 million per season? And should our expectations regarding moves this off-season be heightened a little bit? I think that Oakland is now looking at a different pool of players in either trade or free agency. This comes at a major surprise to me considering what we were told in November.
Possible Players Oakland Will Be Looking At
2B- Mark DeRosa: We have had interest in him over the last couple seasons and he would bring much needed pop to our line up Salary Range: 7-9 Million Per Season
2B- Orlando Hudson: I am not sure how well he would fit into our plans especially considering we already have the 1-2 spots in the lineup penciled in with Davis and Sweeney Salary Range: 6-8 Million
2B- Felipe Lopez: This would be a cheaper option and Lopez has been a pretty good player of the years. Just once again not sure of the fit Salary Range: 4-6 Million
SS- Orlando Cabrera: He played real well for us and many grumblings had him interested in returning following the trade to Minnesota. Salary Range: 5-7 Million
SS- Miguel Tejada: He is a wild card, Tejada played great last season and continues to be one of the best offensive infielders this side of 1st and 3rd. Not too sure about what he would demand. But i will attempt an estimate. Salary Range: 5-7 Million
3B- Adrian Beltre: A great defensive 3rd basemen with okay ability at the plate. It seems that his demands are extremely high at this point. Salary Range: 9-11 Million
3B- Troy Glaus: I could see this being an option for Oakland until they wait for Wallace to be ready. I don't think Glaus will get more then a 1 year contract. Salary Range: 5-6 Million
DH- Hank Blalock: Now would you rather have him or Cust? I believe Blalock has much more upside and would be willing to take a short term contract in order to cash in during a future off-season. He has had some great seasons and is still only 29. Salary Range: 5-7 Million (not too sure though)
DH- Jermaine Dye: He wants to play in California so that narrows down the field a little bit. San Francisco is said to be interested and that seems like his most logical destination. But as a local boy who has played for us here is see him as an option. Salary Range: 6-8 Million
DH- Jim Thome: I would be worried that signing him may turn out to be a Mike Sweeney type deal. How much does he have left? Salary Range: 4-5 Million
SP- Aroldis Chapman: The A's have been one of a few teams linked to him in the last couple weeks. But when the other teams are the Yankees and Red Sox i think we may want to ground any expectation of signing this Cuban phenom. Salary Range: 10-13 Million
SP- Erik Bedard: When healthy he is a top of the rotation type of pitcher. But the problem continues to be health in terms of Bedard. Are we willing to take a change on an injury riddled pitcher with major talent? Not entirely too sure. Good news he may come cheaper then expected. Salary Range: 6-9 Million
SP- Doug Davis: He is an innings eater with decent stuff. Could fit nicely as the 3rd or 4th starter. If he could be had in the 5 MD range i think we look into it. Salary Range: 6-8 Million
SP- Jon Garland: Still only 30 with some time as a good starter left. His numbers were good for the Sox for a while. I think he would be a great fit in Oakland. Salary Range: 6-8 Million
SP- Braden Looper: I have seen him linked to Oakland in a lot of internet reports. I am just not sure how substantial these reports are. He is an innings eater that could give you betweer 12 and 15 wins. Also wouldn't get more then a two year contract. Salary Range: 6-7 Million
SP- John Lackey: Wouldn't this be a coup? He has Cy Young ability and is by far the best FA starter on the market. If we can throw 7 million per at Scutaro why not give Lackey 12-15 Million? Salary Range: 12-14 Million
SP- Mark Mulder: Low risk, high reward. Even if he doesn't come to Oakland i hope Mulder resurrects his career. Have always been a fan of his. Salary Range: Veteran Minimum/Non Guaranteed contract
SP- Jarrod Washburn: Pitched well for Detroit down the stretch. At 35 i am not sure how much he has left. But i don't think he would demand more then two years. Salary Range: 5-7 Million
In case you noticed i didn't include outfield or relievers in this list. Simply because i believe those are the two lowest levels of priorities for Oakland this off-season. That said something can change and we could be in the market in those positions later. This isn't written to get expectations extremely high that Oakland is going to break the bank, but it is pretty obvious that they have more financial flexibility then originally believed.
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no need for Glaus now…maybe Cabrera as Plan B at SS, possibly Mulder. If you can’t get Scutaro to come home, do you really expect any of those other guys to have interest in playing at the Oakland Mausoleum?
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 4, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions
What do you mean "no need for Glaus?"
Until the A’s have 6 3Bmen who can’t field, I will not rest easy.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
you didn't hear...
Cust’s the emergency 3B
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 4, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
You mean if Landon Powell's liver acts up?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Live Organ Transplants:
Only slightly more depressing than the 2010 A’s offense!
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Someone get me a psychic surgeon, quick
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 5, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
"The A's Organ Transplants: The only thing that pops out round here is Bobby Crosby"
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
The A's should keep Ellis
He’s by far the best MI on the roster. Cardenas may be ready midseason, but Unicorn deserves the starting role. He also makes the chance of adding a guy like Hudson 0.
I like Glaus and Beltre, and I’ve always been a Tejada fan. Dye/Blalock/Thome make little sense as Cust is better. Chapman and Arguelles make the most interesting way to spend money this offseason.
Trading for Jed Lowrie/Brandon Wood/Sean Rodriguez should be priority 1 right now.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
I could see adding Hudson if he is willing to make the move to the left side
Blalock would be lucky to get a tenth of what the post above lists his salary range as. Actually, I’d go further and say he’d be lucky to get a major league contract. He’s freaking terrible. Like Aaron Miles, except more injured.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
I like your idea
But Hudson allegedly knocked back a move to 3B from Philadelphia before they signed Polanco, so doesn’t sound like he’d go for SS.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Shrug
Can’t make him play third…
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Hudson to SS has been a pet idea of mine....
But realistically I can’t see it unless Hudson has literally nowhere else to sign.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Quite what?
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
yeah i came to post
quite what? quite interesting?
plz fix this, it looks so amateurish to make a post with a spelling error/typo in the title.
Okay
My bad. Had a mental block for a second. Consider it fixed!!
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Dec 4, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
The media saying the A's didn't have any money to spend this offseason...
are/were largely ignorant of the A’s financial situation.
The A’s could cut their 2010 payroll by 20% in comparison to what they spent in 2009 and as of 48 hours ago they’d STILL have $13 million to play with before hitting their financial ceiling. So adding Miles’ $1.7 million price tag, the A’s still have approximately $11 million to play with.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Dec 4, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Seconded
The notion that the A’s do not HAVE money is just silly. I mean, any team can choose not to spend money. But they aren’t bouncing paychecks off the bottom of the team bank account.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
I think it is more of a stretch to automatically assume that with trying to get Scutaro and the Royals trade as well as the one they did
Means that they are going to sign some higher priced FAs. I would think the trade they made made be a prelude to using one or both in another trade
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Beane is a poker player
He bluffed about not going after FA. I do see a FA pitcher coming the A’s way and another hitter.
Don't agree with the analysis.
I think the A’s offering Scutaro a contract does not show that they are not content with Pennington. It shows that if they see an upgrade, they will take it.
Callipso was targeted, as we can all probably assume, to be the starting Third Baseman, not second base. I think that Second Base is Mark Ellis’s until he is either traded or leaves to Free Agency. After he leaves, the job will belong to Adrian Cardenas, who will be in Triple A Sacramento until he’s called up to take the Second or Third Base job, depending on need. The A’s may even rotate him between the two positions, or even (big if, if they consider it) playing Cardenas at SS for a few years until Greene or Coleman is ready.
I think Adam Kennedy will not be returning. I think he will be offered more money elsewhere. The question I wonder about is why the A’s were going so hard after a backup infielder like Miles and their previous rumored interest in Carroll. I think that if anything, this shows that the person they do not have faith in is Gregorio Petit, not Cliff Pennington, as the obvious move would be to bring up Petit to play the utility role on the cheap instead of getting someone just as bad for more money.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
by Zonis on Dec 4, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree -- if players took it to mean "they don't want me"
or “they don’t believe in me” every time a team tried to acquire a better player at that position, no one would ever feel good about themselves.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I fear that this is what happened with Scutaro
But in the opposite direction. Trading him away could have caused some disappointment and anger.
Wade Hines
Didn't he say at the time he was excited to get a chance at starting?
(nothing to back this up, I’m afraid)
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
he has said on several occasions that being made a starter
was what helped him to put together such a good season.
I have heard players say in interviews...
…that they do suffer a degree of disappointment and self doubt when their first organization trades them away or otherwise parts company with them. They have also said they got over it and subsequent trades didn’t matter in the same way.
I’m sure this is only for some players, not all, though I have heard several say so.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
I always liked Callapso
I wanted him to come over in the Haren trade with Arizona. He’s basically a rich man’s Aaron Miles, offering the same defensive versatility but better offensive and defensive performance.
I really want to know what KC was asking for in return.
The monster at the end of this blog.
could it be that they were asking for Aaron Miles?... I mean it is Drayton Moore.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Dec 5, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think the A's were obliged to take Miles
as a condition for getting Fox. I doubt they “wanted” Miles.
by OaklandSi on Dec 6, 2009 7:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe it was a game of "pick your horrible contract"!
Well, I’m glad Alfonso Soriano isn’t an A now, at least.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Note to self: Never do business with Toronto.
Your day breaks, your mind aches.
You find that all her words of kindness linger on
when she no longer needs you.
Jed Lowrie
The player I want the A’s to go after is Jed Lowrie, whom the Redsox no longer need after signing Scutaro. As many on AN might remember, Lowrie was the AN favorite to pick during the draft which brought us Cliff Pennington-AN as a whole was rather mad that the A’s picked Pennington over Lowrie, and still pissed when the Red Sox picked him before our pick came around again.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
Plus he's injured -- he's perfect!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Don't expect quick movement on that front
Lowrie’s status with the Red Sox depends on the outcome of a chain of events starting with “what on earth are they going to do about Mike Lowell”. If they move him, then they’ll be looking into a first baseman, presuming Youkilis moves to third. If THAT happens Lowrie may become expendable.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Lowell's injured and can't really move any more
and he plays 3B. The A’s should definitely acquire him.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
We'd need a really big shelf for our collection.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
SS- Orlando Cabrera: He played real well for us
What the?
Off your list I’d go for Glaus, but I’m not sure how he fits in the McPhoxez matrix now (sad face), Hudson and Bedard (for the right price) and Chapman.
The rest of the list, DO NOT WANT.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
McPhoxez...
…is catching on!
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 5, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
McPhoxez in High Soxes?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Do you choose to chew goo, too, sir?
If so, are you Shin-Soo Choo, sir?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Sitting on Boxes
listening to the Oxes?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Fleet Foxes?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Dec 6, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
In my pocketses?
Your day breaks, your mind aches.
You find that all her words of kindness linger on
when she no longer needs you.
I was looking for a movie quote that I couldn't find
From a movie I can’t recall:
“It’s…catching…on!”
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 8, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
I have a few issues with this post.
I’m usually the target of unfriendly AN comments and REALLY try to be an all-inclusive, non-judgemental member and try to be welcoming to generalized ideas posted, but unfortunately for norcal81 I have had a real bad couple of weeks (sorry brother, but I just gotta vent a bit)
Blalock a better bet than Cust after playing half his games in launchpad ballpark…no.
John Lackey “Cy Young Ability”…no.
Braden Looper linked to Oakland in internet reports?…where and why?
Jarrod Washburn “pitched well for Detroit down the stretch.”…the simplest, most easily verifiable, no.
That is it. Please, don’t take these comments as discouragement from posting at AN, but rather as my need to just point out some things that people have pointed out to me in the past when I post faster than I can research. It’ll help you in the long run.
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
by Taj Adib on Dec 4, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I made a mistake regarding Washburn, and for that i apologize. (a 7.33 Era isn’t pitching well),
Regarding John Lackey Well
He hasn’t had an ERA over 4.00 in any of the last 5 seasons, that’s pretty darn good for an AL pitcher. His WHIP has been at about 1.25 over the last 4 seasons, a SO/BB ratio of about 3.25 over the last 4 seasons. And he finished 3rd in the CY young award voting just 3 seasons ago. Health does remain an issue as he has combined for only 51 starts over the last two seasons.
And yes i do like Blalock better then Cust, but that is just in my opinion.
Just in comparison 2009 Stats
Hank Blalock:
.234 AVG 25HR 66RBI 108 S0/462 AB Poor .277 OB %
Jack Cust
.240 AVG 25HR 70RBI 185SO/515 AB Good .356 OB %
Best Career Stats
Hank Blalock
.276 AVG 32HR 110RBI 149SO/615 AB .355 OB %
Jack Cust
.256 AVG 26HR 82RBI 164SO/507AB ..408 OB %
Now if you want to argue stadium’s i am all ears and will not disagree with you
I am always prepared to take constructive criticism but expect me to debate the merits of each argument.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Dec 4, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
Blalock has been injured, and is probably stuck at DH from now on, for several years now
His numbers have declined since getting into the league, and playing in Texas boosts those numbers.
Last 3 Years wOBA
Blalock:
2007: .383
2008: .361
2009: .313
Cust:
2007: .393
2008: .371
2009: .342
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
That .277 OBP is really really ugly
How about a look at their Batting Runs the last three years (which are park-adjusted and have the correct linear weight placed on each stat)?
Cust:
2007 28.0
2008 23.0
2009 8.8
Blalock:
2007 9.1
2008 6.2
2009 -8.1
Each of the last three years Cust has been 15+ runs better than Blalock as a hitter. You want to argue that Blalock didn’t get the PAs Cust did? Each of those three years Cust put up better wOBAs, which are NOT park adjusted.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
truth be told
Lackey is good enough to be a cy young but his injuries will keep him from ever being a cy young winner.
Blalock is only a very slight up grade from Cust. We don’t need another injury from happening player.
No links but I feel that Looper is a great FA for the A’s a innings eater that should pitch well in Oakland and I have said before on this site that the A’s should sign him because it will be cheap.
Washburn is a ok pitcher but he will be a late FA signing if the A’s don’t get another before the deadline. If Kevin Corriea is non tender by the padres I would guess he would be Beane next FA signing because don’t forget they offered him a contract last year but he went to padres for more of a guaranted job.
I have to say, this whole Hank Blalock/Jack Cust comparison is doing a really good job of triaging the posters who know what they're doing when it comes to offense
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
I love learning new words! Triaging is a good one.
And yes, Cust is a lot better than Blalock offensively.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
Blalock is a waste of a perfectly good coach's son
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 8, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
As for your assessment of Lackey
John Lackey "Cy Young Ability"…no.
You are probably correct. However, when healthy — and if he were pitching in the NL — I could see him being in the top five vote getters and having a Vasquez-like transition of it. And that’s when one has to consider the word “ability” as kinda/sorta appropriate here.
by LowcountryJoe on Dec 7, 2009 2:59 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe Lackey can stay healthy for an entire season... just once.
Sounds like the kind of “upside” ANers are always looking for.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
With the whole spending miilions on veteran SP thing.......
Billy said recently something like “Blowing millions on veteran SP is the worst thing you can do with your money”
So you can wipe all the SPs off except maybe Chapman, Mulder and possibly a super-cheap Bedard.
Top marks for trying nocal81, it’s just that a lot of your ideas aren’t fitting into the flow/mindset of what our front office is allegedly doing.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
I Was Just Listing
Free agent possibilities for the A’s. I really haven’t advocated for Oakland signing any of the players listed above with the possible exceptions of Lackey and Tejada.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Dec 4, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmmm
I guess I look at it like this:
Callaspo was the first plan for third. Fox is the second plan with McPherson as a wild card back up corner infielder/DH/potential platoon partner.
Miles is a fallback utility infielder without the Scutaro/Pennington dynamic.
I don’t expect much more than a potential innings eater and a minor trade involving Miles to an NL team that likes his grittiness.
So you're saying we'll end up with Arthur Rhodes at 3B?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Another ship just sailed
Arguelles signs with Royals for 7 million + 2 million in incentives. The deal is a major league deal and Arguelles looks to start in class A. That could backfire on the Royals.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Seems fine to me
They have four seasons to get him through the minors. If he’s not ready at age 23, the odds that he figures it out later still are not all that high.
Another irritating missed opportunity, though who knows how good the guy is really.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Where are you getting 4 years in the minors?
Signing him to a major league deal means 3 options… or am I missing something obvious?
The monster at the end of this blog.
He's never played in the minors before, ever
As long as all three of his original options are used within his first 4 seasons of pro ball, he receives a fourth option because in Year Four or Year Five he would not have the requisite 5 years of pro ball that would prevent him from receiving said fourth option.
Of course the fourth option would have to be used before he amasses 5 years’ worth of pro experience.
The one thing I can say that I know for sure about fourth options is that amateurs who sign major league contracts are, almost without exception, eligible for them.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Arguelles was going to land a major league contract wherever he went
That was just going to be the cost of doing business, I think.
So Arguelles is off the list. I know the A’s have money to spend, where are they going to invest it?
The monster at the end of this blog.
I hope he's aware its the royals
maybe his country man Betancourt did some recruiting
Why would anyone WANT to be on a team with Yuniesky Betancourt?
One would think that would run in the opposite direction…
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Especially why would a PITCHER want that
Although the odds that Yuni will still be there if and when Arguelles reaches the bigs have to be pretty darn low.
Maybe he promised to sit out when Arguelles pitches?
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 8, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Don't believe Beane
He’s constantly sending out mixed signals. It’s part of the plan…that’s how he operates. I wouldn’t put anything past him - what’s screwing up Oakland right now is that he’s simply not getting people to come here, and it’s leaking.
I can see picking up an innings-eater…maybe someone like Gil Meche for say, Travis Buck and a couple of minor league pitching prospects. There are a few folks out there who are tradable if the A’s are willing to overpay for them.
perhaps the explanation to bridge what beane said and what he did (looking at the spirit of the words more than the words themselves) is that he didn’t go for a 1-year FA, as has been the stop-gag fashion. in offering 3 years he steps away from that norm, showing less interest in tradebait/quickfix/fingercross and more in building a team. on the other hand, i don’t believe he’s ever felt married to his words.
don't care if i ever get back.
Nice Freudian slip:
“stop-gag.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That was originally how I thought the saying was myself.
It made a certain amount of sense in that you’re stopping (gagging) complaints temporarily by doing x. Then people started using gap and I thought that sounded odd to me, but with it’s own sort of sense.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
yeah, um, freudian slip. it wasn’t my ignorance at all!
don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Dec 6, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
It's that you secretly want to sleep with your mother.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Is that what a freudian slip means?
I thought it was a reference to Freud’s dress slip that he secretly wore all the time while wearing women’s clothes.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
If you can't tell me from Freud, I'm not continuing this conversation.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Please
You’re too trashy to be wearing a slip. Freud, after all, was a doctor.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
Yeah, most people aren't thrilled when their boss gives them a pink slip,
but I was like, “You DO know me!”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
what would you trade for Kevin Kouzmanoff?
John Shea is reporting that the A’s have interest in Kouzmanoff. He’s a solid 3B defender with power who hits much better away from Petco park. He’s contract controlled through 2012.
He and Hairston can have a competition
to see which one can OBP .300 against RHP.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Both of them are better than they look
You’re indirectly shafting them by using unadjusted Petco stats.
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Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
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