Scutaro Signs with the Red Sox
by supermarc589 on Dec 3, 2009 10:35 PM PST
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This sucks. This makes me sad. This is horrible. I would rather watch every raider game on repeat for a week staight than have this happen. Of all the teams he could have gone to. I would rather see him on the yankees. I hate the red sox. This makes me have to boo him. Wtf. What is the world coming to. I hate baseball. I hate the Red Sox. I hate Francona. I hate Pedroia. I hate every one of those dousches. I am going to have to burn my scutaro shirt. Balls.
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Wow
I would rather watch every raider game on repeat for a week staight than have this happen.
Come on, this isn’t nearly as bad. It really isn’t. It really, really, really isn’t.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 3, 2009 10:41 PM PST reply actions
Your brave, unwavering defense of the Raiders
is inspiring.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Dec 4, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
I thought he was saying that Scutaro going to the Red Sox wasn't as bad...
It’s quite the ambiguous sentence, isn’t it.
[Watching the Raiders is a bazillion times worse, though… the Red Sox actually play competent baseball… it’s not a continual eyesore like the Raiders…]
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
What's Worse
Watching the Raiders is a lot worse than seeing Marco Scutaro going to Boston.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 4, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
You can't hold it against someone
When they’re finally getting paid.
Scutaro: “I’m rich biatch!”
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Ironically I'm wearing a Scutaro shirt as I type.
And now I’m wearing nothing.
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
how'd you get your pants off so fast?
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
Enh, whatever.
If it’s not Oakland, I don’t care where he plays. I still love Marco.
Marco!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
I'm with iglew
Don’t care, still like the guy.
Tell you all what, each time you feel your bloodpressure rise because of the much beloved Marco being on the hated bean eaters, rent “Player to be Named Later.” I dare you to watch that and hate Scutaro.
Yeah, even if he were playing for the Yanks, Red Sox & Angels...
all at once (hey, he’s Super Marco… he could do it), I could never heckle Scoot. Ever.
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Dec 4, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it's like Swish playing for the Yanks
I won’t be rooting for them to win, but, yknow. Good on the guy
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Stop watching me!
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 8, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad for Scoot
After watching Player to be Named Later, any time Marco does well, I’m glad for him. He’s an inspiration for all minor leaguers struggling to get by.
Here’s hoping he experiences all the success in the world but the Rays and O’s experience more than the Sox.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
love that flic. that’s what i was thinking too.
don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Dec 4, 2009 7:56 AM PST up reply actions
After watching Swisher in the World Series with the Yankees, I realized I could still cheer for some of my favorite former A’s, even when they join evil teams. But man, the Red Sox? I put them as even worse than the Yankees in my book. Their fans are just intolerable. I’m not sure what to feel about this one…
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
If their fans
Start to do the Marco chant I may have to bash my head into a wall.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
Yay Marco!
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/marco-scutaro-rumors-thursday.html
FRIDAY, 9:08am: ESPN’s Buster Olney has the terms on Scutaro: $1MM signing bonus, $5MM in 2010, $5MM in 2011, and a 2012 option with a $6MM club option, $3MM player option, and $1.5MM buyout. That makes it a two-year, $12.5MM deal – less than I thought he’d receive.
Ka ching!
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
I thought he could get more money
Maybe he gave them a contender discount.
Wow
This “not getting involved in free agents” notion is getting unbelievably silly. All these guys are signing for easily affordable sums.
And don’t give me this bullshit about them only wanting to sign with contenders. That’s ludicrous. The only reason they might prefer a contender is because your offer is even more shortsightedly parsimonious than theirs is.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Dec 4, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Boy would I have jumped at having Scutaro for that contract plus a little more.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Apparently, Marco himself disagrees.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
So would Billy Beane
Who, per Rosenthal, offered slightly more, but was turned down.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Dec 4, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
"slightly more"
Oh great. Now I can look forward to three years of, “If only we’d offered significantly more instead of slightly more, Marco would be on our team now. I’ll bet just another $500K would have done it. The A’s are so cheap.”
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Boston offered playoff chances before he retires.
Pretty sure we couldn’t offer that.
by LoneStranger on Dec 7, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
PT, I have to agree with you.
This is really getting silly.
First the A’s don’t manage to get involved in the flurry of trades at the beginning of the offseason, when players like Hardy and Iwamura, who could’ve helped shore up the left side of the infield for reasonable cost in prospects, are dealt.
Then they stand fairly pat while Polanco is signed to a reasonable deal as a FA, and let Boston get Scutaro for a very reasonable price as well (though at least it sounds like they might’ve tried to get Scutaro with a last-minute slight outbid.) Meanwhile, the Mariners are apparently about to sign Figgins to a pretty reasonable-sounding deal as well.
What gives? No way they couldn’t afford to get one or more of these players, in terms of either/both salary and/or prospect cost, to improve the team for 2010 and at least 2011 if not beyond. Seems like somebody’s asleep at the wheel… and if Aaron Miles and the rumored Jamey Carroll (oh, and McPherson, who has played how many games in the past 3 years?) are the supposed solutions this offseason then the best solution for A’s fans is probably to avoid watching any games in 2010.
by still bills kingdom on Dec 4, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe none of the good FAs want to sign with Oakland.
I’m so tired of every time any player signs with another team having to hear that Billy was too cheap. News flash, everyone: Oakland is not a top choice for most big-name players.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Yeah
I mean, shocking as it may sound, not a lot of veterans are interested in taking part in a rebuilding project. And certainly not when they’re a hitter who would have to play in the Oakland Coliseum.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Dec 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
you know... f**k free agents anyway!
I want to see the kids play.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 7, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Sawx douche!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Dec 4, 2009 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
You forgot the Baaaaahstan accent
MAAAAACO!
SCUTAAAAAAAAAAAO!
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Dec 4, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
And now...
my Red Sox fan boss will switch from making fun of me for liking some random player he’d never heard of to waxing on about how he’s the best thing ever. Same damn thing that happened with Victor Martinez.
rat poison in the coffee.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Dec 4, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
If only people still worked from 9 to 5.
by LoneStranger on Dec 7, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
rat poison in the chocolate milk?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 7, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Good for Marco
That’s a lot of money for a player with one great year. The Red Sox have the cash flow to make that deal reasonable though. He might put some decent numbers in that ballpark and the line up protection.
Just saw this on Yahoo and found out it's old news. :)
Of course AN has its finger on the pulse.
I always liked Marco. I am glad that Marco is getting $$$, but, come ON! The bloody hose?!? I agree with supermarc589 – I’d rather watch every Raiders game on repeat for a week straight…and that’s saying A LOT because I’m a Chargers fan. :)
Let’s go, Oak-land! clap clap clapclapclap!
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Wow, he turned down more cash from A's.
Scutaro inked a two-year deal with Boston on Friday that contains $12.5 million in guaranteed money and another $3-6 million in option money for 2012. Oakland offered him “slightly” more, according to Rosenthal’s sources, but the 34-year-old shortstop liked the idea of playing in Boston and for a contender.
Bring back Hammer.
Good for him
Turns out the idea of playing in front of large crowds in a bandbox with the likelihood of going to the post-season is more appealing to Marco Scutaro than getting a slightly larger paycheck.
Sucks for us, though. And what it says is that Beane isn’t satisfied with a Pennington-Miles shortstop combo.
I'm disappointed...
…but I don’t blame him one bit either.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
Neither do I, how could ya?
I thought it was more interesting that the A’s made that big an offer to him.
Bring back Hammer.
No kidding. Same here.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
Doesn't make sense
This is 1 rumor i don’t believe that the A’s offered Scutaro more money. Didn’t Beane just say the A’s were not going to sign FA. Did he blow smoke up somebody’s ass? Sounds like Beane just blew some over to Rosenthal. Also Rosenthal is saying the A’s have money to spend.
One key point
I read that Beane was looking at Jamey Carrol for third. The red sox were also looking at him. Did Billy play Boston into speeding up the Scutaro offer so Boston would sign Scutaro so the A’s will sign Carrol? Only time will tll but if carrol signs with the A’s it will make you wonder.
the good news is
that we know the A’s are willing to spend some money.
Your worst nightmare is Marco Scutaro signing with the Red Sox?
Mine involves giant spiders chasing me across skyscraper rooftops.
I can’t blame Scutaro for wanting to play for a team that tries to win every year and does so in front of passionate fans who actually show up to games.
You forgot the evil clowns.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Dec 4, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
I heart evil clowns!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 7, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
"Can't sleep. Clowns'll eat me." - Bart Simpson
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
Perhaps you'll never seen the Sox fans at the coliseum
They are most obnoxious, annoying, stupid, and fair-weather fans on the Planet. Please go to an A’s/red sox game. They actually say comments like "Yankee’s buy their companionships," and "We’re the underdogs." I go to 40 games a year at the coliseum and there aren’t fans alive worse than Red Sox fans! Trust me! Maybe if you would actually go to A’s games you would know how awful they are!
by OnlybuyBeaneJerseys on Dec 7, 2009 7:23 AM PST up reply actions
I definitely am not a Red Sox hater...
They’re always my second or third favorite team…
But their fair weather fans suck buttholes…
I went to a Red Sox/White Sox game when I lived in Chicago, before the WS championships, and the Red Sox fans were just as bad there as they are in the Coliseum.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 7, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
totally agree
I dont hate the team, The GM’s a lot like the A’s. When they play the Yankees, I want the Red Sox to win but all their fans to get mild food poisoning.
by OnlybuyBeaneJerseys on Dec 8, 2009 3:13 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, most of the actual players seem pretty cool
Wakefield is cool because he throws the knuckler, Matsuzaka is cool because he’s a cultural fish out of water, Lester is kind of a feel-good story, Okajima has that bizarro-world delivery. David Ortiz is like a giant huggable bear. Even Youkilis has that Funny Out of Shape Midwestern White Guy vibe going for him.
There are very few actual hateable players on the Red Sox (I’ll give you Papelbon, but that’s about it— and really, most closers are douchebags when you get right down to it). The fans are a completely different story of course…
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I can't stand Youkilis and his dumb goatee and stupid batting stance.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
good for Marco
Too bad the A’s traded him away because they didn’t want to pay him. Looks like that came back to bite them in the A$$.
Who do the A’s get in the trade anyway?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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Graham!
Godfrey!
and
Kristian!
Bell!
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 4, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Not a horrible trade really....
Sure, Marco had a nice 2009, but no one was predicting that kind of production for him at 33. Will that continue, or will he drop back to his career averages of .265/.337/.384, or less? I love the guy, and was sorry to see him go, but bringing him back for $5 million+ a year probably would have backfired anyway. I much prefer younger/cheaper (and potentially better) options as starters, and certainly can’t see spending that kind of dough for a utility guy.
By the way, Godfrey had a nice season as a starter in AA (11-8, 3.50 ERA, 1.28 WHIP). It’ll be interesting to see if he makes the jump to AAA. Bell looks like he’s about done — he can’t seem to pitch (well) above single-A.
by andyinfremont on Dec 4, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
OMFG SOMEBODY REASONABLE?!?!?
Seriously. It’s Marco Scutaro, not exactly A-rod we missed out on by a few million bucks or something.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I agree that signing Scutaro for $5 mill now would probably backfire
but I would have liked to keep him for the $1 -$1.55 he was making in 08 and 09.
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Kristen Bell?
The artist formerly known as HigherPie.
by vegAN ryAN on Dec 4, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Word.
Too bad the A’s traded him away because they didn’t want to pay him. Looks like that came back to bite them in the A$$.
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
In what way did it "come back to bite them in the ass"?
He was traded. He became a free agent. He is now NOT playing for the team he was traded to.
Toronto got some draft picks, but they probably spent as much as those picks are worth paying Scutaro’s salary in the last two years.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
let me count the ways
the team lost a fan favorite player, affecting attendance (well, maybe the attendance part)
he had an OK 2008 season and a good season in 09 at the plate.
Donnie Murphy, Scutaro’s “replacement” was a FAIL
He would have been an improvement over Crosby and Hannahan.
Wouldn’t the A’s have benifitted from having him in the infield the last two years? Who knows, if he had stayed on the team and had a career year in 09 maybe he re-signs with the A’s? Maybe he would do the same thing and sign with a contender but the chances would be greater if he never was traded IMO.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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None of this has anything to do with the contract he just signed...
it’s just saying that the trade wasn’t a great trade for Oakland. Which is true. But every team makes trades that, in retrospect, weren’t great.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
fair enough
I guess I’m assuming that the trade affected his desire to sign with the A’s this year. But there is no way to prove that and it probably has little to do with it. Besides factoring the pressure of being in Boston it was a smart choice on Marco’s part.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
"Hey Marco, we're going to trade you to a team where you'll be a starter"
OMFG I HATE YOU BILLY BEANE!!!!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
The A's traded him away because he had a career .700 OPS and was going to be overpaid.
Everybody conveniently forgets that.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Heh heh...
I’ve never seen a “pile” of fail before. Love that. May I use that, Brian? That has applications in everyday life… :)
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state that I've finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart), "Harvey"
I didn't forget that
I was OK (not exactly happy but I was crying over it) with the trade at the time because of that. I said basically the same thing when my Dad asked me why he was traded. But in hindsight it would have been a good idea to keep him around (for the reasons stated above). How much would he even cost anyways? {Checks Cot’s baseball Contracts} He made $1.55m in 08 and $1.1m. That’s chump change for a baseball team, even the A’s.
p.s. J.D Drew is the highest paid player on the Red Sox? WTC?
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Ack!
The A’s will be paying Aaron Miles more money this season ($1.7 million after the Cubs gave them $1m) than Scutaro would have cost in 08 or 09. I guess we can count for inflation but still.
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I guess J.D. Drew is good
he was worth at least 4.1 WAR in 3 of the last 4 years and worth a whopping 8.3 in 2004.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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oops
“wasn’t crying over it” is what I meant to say.
I will also concede that he had a very poor 2007 season, posting a 0.2 WAR.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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At least it means they're not sold on Pennington. That's good.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
Billy bluffing
Beane said he wasn’t going to be a player in the free agent market. This would have been a pretty big play.
I wonder what offer he’ll make to Figgins that will get turned down…
The artist formerly known as HigherPie.
"slightly more" than what the Mariners offered?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 4, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
If the M's get Figgins
then who would the Angels go after? Would they go internal with Wood, or maybe even go after Beltre? Adrian seems like he’d fit in the slegnA style.
A's offered more for Scutaro??
Wow, I thought the A’s werent going after FAs, especially at SS……..
by Colorado Booze Hounds on Dec 4, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions
I wonder if the A's would be interested in Chen-Ming Wong if he is non-tendered.
What would be a reasonable contract for CMW?
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
Marco is still the man...
I just can’t see him in a Red Sux uniform.
Interesting for sure that he apparently turned down more money from the A’s to play in Boston instead. I honestly feel like this sort of thing will continue to happen until the A’s get a stadium deal in place and we’re all going to have to live with it, unfortunately….
Best of luck in Boston, Marco. We’ll always love you man!
Go A’s!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
fangraphs article on the Scutaro signing
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