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Distances to AAA team stadium

Driving through Tacoma the other day, I happened to contemplate how both the A's and the Mariners have their AAA team fairly nearby. I wondered how many other MLB teams also keep their AAA within easy driving distance.

Mostly for my own edification and amusement, I did a little research and calculated the distance for each MLB team to its affiliated AAA team. Since the work is done, I figured I may as well post it here on the off chance that anyone else is interested.

Star-divide

The table below shows driving distance and driving time. All figures are from Mapquest, calculated from stadium to stadium, selecting for shortest time. (I measured them going from MLB to AAA. I realized later that the other direction might make more sense, but by then I had already looked up several of them and didn't want to do it over. Reversing the direction of the trip should make little difference anyway.)

Please forgive the ugliness and small-printish-ness of the table. I pasted from Excel and haven't made complete sense of the code. (Like, why the indent from the left?) I'm just happy I could make the columns line up.

Distance is in miles. Cities are listed in order of distance, which doesn't exactly line up with order of driving time.

 

team AAA city distance driving time
Seattle Mariners Tacoma, WA 36.08 0:44
Atlanta Braves Lawrenceville, GA (Gwinnett) 36.36 0:43
Boston Red Sox Pawtucket, RI 46.72 0:59
Detroit Tigers Toledo, OH 58.20 1:02
Philadelphia Phillies Allentown, PA (Lehigh Valley) 70.01 1:20
Colorado Rockies (Denver) Colorado Springs, CO 71.35 1:14
Oakland Athletics Sacramento, CA 86.15 1:30
Cincinnati Reds Louisville, KY 99.32 1:37
New York Yankees Moosic, PA (Scranton/Wilkes-Barre) 130.26 2:25
Cleveland Indians Columbus, OH 141.91 2:22
Houston Astros Round Rock, TX [near Austin] 167.11 2:51
San Francisco Giants Fresno, CA 190.34 3:08
Kansas City Royals Omaha, NE 194.92 3:02
Texas Rangers (Arlington) Oklahoma City, OK 207.11 3:23
Baltimore Orioles Norfolk, VA 239.50 4:17
St Louis Cardinals Memphis, TN 284.37 4:19
Chicago Cubs Des Moines, IA 339.92 5:36
Pittsburgh Pirates Indianapolis, IN 360.59 5:58
Washington Nationals Syracuse, NY 375.60 6:30
New York Mets Buffalo, NY 411.82 7:07
Milwaukee Brewers Nashville, TN 564.48 9:22
Los Angeles Angels (Anaheim) Salt Lake City, UT 682.03 10:05
Tampa Bay Rays Durham, NC 698.51 10:57
Arizona Diamondbacks (Phoenix) Reno, NV 743.09 12:04
Los Angeles Dodgers Albuquerque, NM 791.23 11:24
Chicago White Sox Fort Mill, SC (Charlotte) 814.31 12:57
Florida Marlins (Miami Gardens) Metairie, LA (New Orleans) 857.50 13:00
Minnesota Twins (Minneapolis) Rochester, NY 1,009.04 16:39
San Diego Padres Portland, OR 1,086.44 17:15
Toronto Bluejays Las Vegas, NV 2,252.65 34:29

Minnesota's figures are measured from the Metrodome. The new stadium will be 0.85 miles and 0:03 further.

Fun Fact: The street address for Riverside Park is 1 Line Dr, Des Moines, IA. "Line Drive" is the name of the short street leading to one of the stadium parking lots.

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I'm looking forward to going to some Rivercat games this year.

Anyone go often that’s looking to carpool next year?

Also, is it just me or does it feel unwise to have a team in Vegas?
22 yrs old, athlete, good bit of free time / 24hr booze, the strip, strippers.
Not that I’m opposed to hedonism or anything.

by brian.only on Dec 29, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

clap clap clap

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Dec 31, 2009 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

ASVD

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by Leopold Bloom on Dec 31, 2009 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

They don't have strippers in Sacramento?

I think everything is available anywhere, anytime if one is properly motivated.

by EddieVegas_NRAF on Dec 31, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

I doubt anyone would ever compare Vegas to Sac though.
One could drink a beer on the strip- in front of a cop, say hello, then roll 20 min and legally meet up w/ a call girl.
Different.

by brian.only on Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

This is in Sacramento?

Cool!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 31, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Not in Vegas.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Dec 31, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Relative quality is an issue.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 1, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to go to a few games --

I’m more free from mid-June on, but I can do weekends in April and May. I want to see me some Taylor, Carter, Cardenas…Hmm…come to think of it, better not wait until mid-June if I want to see them in Sacramento!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 29, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You're on!

I’ll bring the chocolate martinis, you bring my pants.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 29, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

You never know where your pants are.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 29, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Once you're old enough to drink chocolate martinis,

you’ll understand why.

BTW, how old do you have to be to drink chocolate martinis? Three?

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by Leopold Bloom on Dec 30, 2009 1:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Chocolate

I like Twix the best.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 30, 2009 2:21 AM PST up reply actions  

How old do you have to be to drink three?

I don’t know; I’ve never stopped at three.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 30, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, I am in!

"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."

by OptimistPrime on Dec 30, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS, tranny edition.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

There has been talk of moving the Toronto AAA team up to Montreal

Now they have a GM who speaks in french to the french canadian media, this is a little more likely

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.

Goals on Film, coming to San Francisco in 2010

by bobnothing on Dec 29, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that would make great sense for them.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Dec 29, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, what's up with Toronto's team being so far away?

It’s not like Toronto is out in the boonies or anything. It’s close to lots of places. Why couldn’t they get the Buffalo team? Or Syracuse or Rochester?

It’s like poor Toronto missed class that day when the other 29 all picked their partners, so he got stuck with whichever one was left over.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 29, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Toronto used to have the Syracuse Chiefs.

However, the Chiefs signed a two year deal with the Nationals at the end of 2008, allowing/forcing Toronto to sign a deal with the Las Vegas 51s, who had ended their deal with the Dodgers around the same time. The Dodgers now have the Albuquerque Isotopes. The Padres, who used to have the 51s before the Dodgers (as the LV Stars) , now have the Portland Beavers. Both of those moves increased the distance between the parent and AAA clubs.

There are a lot of other related moves. I think it would make a great chart, but I haven’t the time.

by LoneStranger on Dec 30, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The Chiefs?

Boy, you really can’t take the “Tonto” out of “Toronto,” can you?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 30, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The first professional game I saw

Was at Syracuse Chiefs stadium in ‘96. Boring to the point of reconsidering the decision to spend a yer in US. Cold. Of course, I was probably the only one in the stadium who didn’t know any rules. No, Nico, Angel Hernandez was not umpiring.

by elcroata on Dec 30, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to chart all that out.

I’ll add it to my list of things to maybe do some day. (It’s a long list….)

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That's an interesting chronology of the Las Vegas team

I wonder if it’s just random chance, or if the teams have decided that having their 20-something prospects in that town is a distraction to their baseball development.

Any thoughts, or any links to some rationale of why teams keep abandoning Vegas as their affiliate?

"It’s ideal if your hobby and your living can merge. But you are not going to stop your hobby if you can’t make money out of it. Your hobby is all about trading time for enjoyment. My job is what I do. My hobby is who I am." -Tango

by notsellingjeans on Dec 30, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think there's a whole lot to that

Las Vegas has had Triple-A affiliates since 1983:

San Diego: 1983-2000
Los Angeles: 2001-2008
Toronto: 2009-current

It’s not like they’re going through new affiliations every couple years. Most of the players aren’t making enough that they can just blow it in the casinos all the time anyway.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Dec 30, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

good info, thanks flashfire

Does anyone know anything about that Vegas stadium? Is it run-down, or fairly modern?

"It’s ideal if your hobby and your living can merge. But you are not going to stop your hobby if you can’t make money out of it. Your hobby is all about trading time for enjoyment. My job is what I do. My hobby is who I am." -Tango

by notsellingjeans on Dec 30, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Cashman Field

Cashman is one of those forgettable 80’s-era minor league parks with few frills. Remember that it was home to the A’s for a spell in 1996 while Mt. Davis was under construction. As of now it’s one of the older parks in the PCL.

by vertig0 on Dec 31, 2009 1:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it would've been much more interesting if you'd have lied to us

Oh, that place? It’s amazing. If you haven’t been, it’s gotta go on your list of places to see before you die. I didn’t even like baseball before I went there.

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by Leopold Bloom on Dec 31, 2009 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I could definitely see the Blue Jays abandoning it...

in favor of Montreal someday as their AAA affiliate.

Could Vegas eventually become the high-A affiliate of…oh, I don’t know…some Bay Area franchise, after some stadium movement in the next few years?

"It’s ideal if your hobby and your living can merge. But you are not going to stop your hobby if you can’t make money out of it. Your hobby is all about trading time for enjoyment. My job is what I do. My hobby is who I am." -Tango

by notsellingjeans on Dec 31, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess it wouldn't really be the "California League" if they did that

but then again, if an 11-team conference can call themselves “the Big 10”…

"It’s ideal if your hobby and your living can merge. But you are not going to stop your hobby if you can’t make money out of it. Your hobby is all about trading time for enjoyment. My job is what I do. My hobby is who I am." -Tango

by notsellingjeans on Dec 31, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Reno used to be in the California League.

And Atlanta used to be in the NL and NFL West.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Dec 31, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Not just Atlanta

Prior to 2002, the five teams in the NFC West were

San Francisco 49ers
St Louis Rams
New Orleans Saints
Atlanta Falcons
Carolina Panthers

Mean longitude is 93º35’, which is about the same as Minneapolis. San Francisco is the outlier there.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 31, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooh, yes, forgot about Carolina.

NO was always kind if iffy relative to the other teams in the conference… though they are east of Dallas and they were in the east division. Still, NO in the west wasn’t a huge faux pas.

And to be fair… the Rams were in Los Angeles when the placed in that division.

So… what was your opinion of Faye Vincent’s attempt to realign the NL along accurate geographic lines?

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Dec 31, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If you're talking about how they

redid it as 8 divisions in 2002, I think that was an excellent job in terms of balancing geography with preserving rivalries.

If you’re talking about something else, then I have no clue.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 31, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Early 90s...

…when Vincent tried to move the Cubs and Cardinals to the NL West and the Reds and Braves to the NL East.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 1, 2010 5:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh. I wasn't following baseball then,

so I missed all of that. I gather that was before the central divisions existed.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 1, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, a year or two before.

He stepped on quite a few toes, and that was a great part of his eventual exit.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 1, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The NFL reorganization was masterful.

Not only did it observe geography and preserve traditions, but all of the teams that were booted out of an otherwise intact division were the ones that either were expansion teams or had recently moved.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 2, 2010 2:16 AM PST up reply actions  

with the exception of

the AFC—Colts should be AFC North, Baltimore AFC East, Miami AFC South.

Miami refused to leave the AFC East.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 2, 2010 4:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, and Cowboys stayed in

NFC East for similar reasons. I don’t have a problem with either. Like I said, it was a beautiful combination of both geography and tradition.

It was OK to boot the Colts because they had moved from Baltimore anyway, and it was OK to boot the Cardinals because they had moved from St Louis anyway.

As for AFC North, I like the tidiness of having the old Browns and the new Browns in the same conference. If the Ravens and Colts were swapped (leaving Miami alone), that would be OK, but it’s just as OK as is.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 2, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

having Jacksonville and Miami would make a lot more sense as the two would form a natural rivalry (ala Browns and Bengals).

Moving Baltimore into the AFC South makes even less sense than having Indianapolis in the AFC South.

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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 2, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I wish, when they add two more baseball teams,

that they’d do the same kind of 4×4×2 division alignment, so we could argue over where they eff’d up.

by LoneStranger on Jan 3, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, now there's a fun puzzle.

Here’s my attempt:

NL East
- New York Mets
- Philadelphia Phillies
- Atlanta Braves
- Washington Nationals

NL North
- Chicago Cubs
- Milwaukee Brewers
- Cincinnati Reds
- Pittsburgh Pirates

NL Central
- St Louis Cardinals*
- Houston Oilers*
- Colorado Rockies*
- Kansas City Royals**

NL West
- Los Angeles Dodgers
- San Francisco Giants
- San Diego Padres
- Arizona Diamondbacks

AL East
- New York Yankees
- Boston Red Sox
- Baltimore Orioles
- Toronto Bluejays

AL North
- Detroit Tigers
- Chicago White Sox
- Minnesota Twins
- Cleveland Indians

AL South
- Texas Rangers*
- Tampa Bay Rays*
- Florida Marlins**
- Nashville (or Charlotte) ***

AL West
- Oakland A’s
- Seattle Mariners
- L.A. Angels
- Portland ***

* = forced to change division
** = forced to change league
*** = presumed expansion teams

Definitely not perfect. Anyone have a better scheme?

The hard part is ripping apart the NL Central, which has some serious rivalries, but it’s got six teams, so you have to do something. (Maybe it will appease the Cardinals and Oilers that they get to keep the “Central” name.)

If there’s no Portland team, then leave Texas in the AL West and assume both expansion teams will be in the new AL South.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 4, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

So when you expand to 4 divisions

you’re going to force the Astros to become the Oilers? Harsh.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Jan 4, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

oops!

I did it twice, too. Shows how much I know the NL….

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 4, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

NObody in the AL north

could play a game before april 15 or after october 15.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a fan of teams changing leagues, but I like the concept.

If I could have my way, I’d even boot the Brewers back into the AL and distribute the expansion teams accordingly.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 4, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's what I'd do...

AL Northeast
Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Toronto BlueJays

AL North
Chicago White Sox
Detroit Tigers
Milwaukee Brewers
Minnesota Twins

AL Central
Cleveland Indians
Kansas City Royals
Tampa Bay Rays
Texas Rangers

AL West
Los Angeles Angels
Oakland Athletics
Portland
Seattle Mariners

NL East
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
Washington Nationals

NL Southeast
Atlanta Braves
Cincinnati Reds
Charlotte/Nashville
Florida Marlins

NL Central
Chicago Cubs
Colorado Rockies
Houston Astros
St. Louis Cardinals

NL West
Arizona Diamondbacks
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 4, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooh, very nice. I like it.

You mixed up divisions more than I did, but the geography is excellent.

Tampa Bay in the Central is kind of a weak link. Still, better than mine.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 4, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks.

Yeah, not matter what you do there’s always one or two teams that just don’t fit neatly where you’d like.

I constrained myself to keeping the leagues intact, and tried to keep most of the division rivalries intact, also.

I feel like I could switch Pittsburgh & Charlotte/Nashville and Cleveland & Minnesota and not lose much. I had to choose between a Twins/White Sox rivalry or a Tigers/Indians one… the Twins/WS won out.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 4, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the better move for...some bay area franchise...would be to move their A team to the North Bay.

Santa Rosa, Petaluma, Rohnert Part. Somewhere near there.

Rohnert Park had the Crushers in the 90’s, but they didn’t last. Costco sits over where the field used to be. Petaluma had talked about tearing down the historic speedway and building up a Single-A park to draw a team, but I don’t think that went much of anywhere. Thinking about that now, if they had planned it right, they could have built the park and then put in restaurants and businesses on the old junior high lot, which is just a minute or two walk away from the speedway.

by LoneStranger on Dec 31, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Should I tell my Crushers story again?

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Dec 31, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure!

I only ever went to one game there, but it was a charity softball game where Jerry Rice and Bubba Franks were playing. IIRC, Franks grabbed a kid from the stands to run for him.

by LoneStranger on Jan 1, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Bubba must live up that way.

I met him when they opened that new Walmart in Windsor. Good times.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 1, 2010 2:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I was woeking in a group home and we got free tickets.

So we took the kids and there was a promotion where they picked a player from the opposition (number 24, IIRC) and if he struck out, the beer in the stadium was half-off for 15 minutes.

He struck out four times.

A couple of the more memorable ones:

Hey 24—you’re driving me home!

Hey 24, will you sign my cup?

Hey 24, this Bud’s for you!

All in all, another fine example of acceptable social behavior for my JDs.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Beer Batter!

They do that at the SJ Giants games too. They play “Roll out the Barrels” when he comes up to bat.

And yes, that sounds like a good example to set for the kids.

by LoneStranger on Jan 1, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Very unimpressive

Saw a game there this spring (MLB ST game, Mariners vs. Idontrememberanymores). It has lawn seating in both LF and RF corners, and a small portion of the home plate seats are underneath a heavy concrete roof. Few concession stands, a small souvenir shop – all together very impersonal. It is rather centrally located, though, 5-10 min drive from the strip

by elcroata on Dec 31, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey!!

the Idontremberanymores were AWESOME! Whatshisname nearly pitched a perfect game had it not been for Whohisface dropping that can of corn in shallow right field in the ninth. Just brutal. But DudeIdontknow launched one at least 500 feet. Great team.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Dec 31, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

You blame Whohisface,

but why was he in there in the 9th inning? I really think FIREMANAGERNOW!!!! bears the responsibility for that one.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 31, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey look.

I’m not saying FIREMANAGERNOW!!!! shouldn’t accept part of the blame. But let’s face it, Whohisface should damn well be able to catch a can of corn. I mean, if his brother, Whoshisface, with his brick hands, can make the phenomenal catch in the 7th, Whohisface damn well better catch it whether he should be in the game or not.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Dec 31, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like this

Very high fences, too. Haven’t been there yet but might this year or next.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Dec 31, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The real problem with Cashman

is that the locker rooms and training facilities are hopelessly old, which makes the site unattractive for MLB teams seeking a AAA affiliate.

There was some discussion in the early 90s about building a spring training complex big enough for four teams, with two stadiums to host exhibition games and one AAA team during the regular season. But that’s all gone now, and no solution in sight.

by EddieVegas_NRAF on Dec 31, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Oddly fortress-like.

Parking is insanely spread out too.

by brian.only on Dec 31, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not want to climb that mountain from the outfield parking lot

Esp. if its 115.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Jan 4, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's more from the LV 51's Wikipedia page:

linkey

Following the Dodgers refusal, the 51s eventually signed a two-year PDC with the Toronto Blue Jays, marking the first time that the 51s had affiliated with an American League club. The affiliation is not expected to extend past 2010, due to the large travel distance between Las Vegas and Toronto, Ontario.


Before the 2008 season, Mandalay Baseball Properties sold the 51s to Stevens Baseball Group. SBG president Derek Stevens stated that he plans to keep the team in the Las Vegas area and was to change the team’s name and identity in time for the 2009 season. However, the team decided to postpone the makeover until after the 2009 season, due to the length of time it took to secure a new PDC, leading the team to miss the deadlines set by Minor League Baseball.


Following the 2009 Season, there has been no talk to rename the team.

by LoneStranger on Dec 31, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Trivia

Mandalay was a group interested in buying the A’s from Schott/Hofmann in 2002, only it was supposed to be kept secret since they were interested in moving the team to Vegas. When evidence of these discussions was leaked, any chance of the A’s going to Santa Clara – where Schott was trying to move them – was destroyed.

by vertig0 on Dec 31, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was an archecture firm.

Or am I thinking of Vandalay?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 31, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not quite

I’m certain the A’s would already be in a new place floating in the Bay had they been purchased by one H.E. Pennypacker, wealthy industrialist.

by vertig0 on Dec 31, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I caught a Chiefs game this year

That is a heartbroken fan base. The Nat’s don’t even have hope

by As Fan in the Bronx on Jan 3, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Sharperson

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Dec 30, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

True story

I was working in the box office for the then-Las Vegas Stars, and the GM told me to bring $500 from the till to him to give to Sharp, who had just been called up to the Padres.

Next morning, got a call at home – - game cancelled, Sharp was dead. Tragic.

by EddieVegas_NRAF on Dec 31, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

At least he had just be called back up

I’m sure the death had nothing to do with Las Vegas. Wasn’t it missing an offramp on the freeway?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Dec 31, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

The I-15 south offramp to the I-215 East, which goes to the airport connector.

by EddieVegas_NRAF on Jan 1, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

i was shocked to find out mapquest still exists

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 29, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

It exists because in order to locate it,

fortunately you don’t have to rely on mapquest.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 29, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh. Will it blow your mind, then, to know that

Alta Vista’s search engine still exists? Just because Google offers a service doesn’t mean everyone else who offers the service must cease to exist.

I’m pro-Google in general, but I always use Mapquest instead of Google maps, out of habit.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 29, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I still go to babelfish.altavista.com

Though it’s apparently now Yahoo!. Bing maps is pretty good as well. I think mapquest is a bit outdated these days…

by rrryanc on Dec 30, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

You have taken care always.

Communication, it is grateful indeed. After the one verifying of the contents, making renew SR, because it receives, now it can receive time for a while, the fish we ask.

That’s a translation I did yesterday of some Japanese text in a service request at work. I’m still trying to figure out what to ask the fish.

by LoneStranger on Dec 30, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a line near the beginning of

La Bohème that babelfishes to “I have a cold dog.”

(It sort of makes sense once you understand the logic. In romance languages instead of saying I’m cold, I’m scared, I’m hungry, etc, you say I have cold, I have fear, I have hunger, etc. Then dog is thrown in there as a mild swear word, sort of like we might say “bitch”. What Marcello is really saying is “it’s damn cold”.)

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea.

The Japanese customers have to translate their questions and answers into English so we can help them. You almost have to be on another plane of existence to understand what they really mean. Every word has to be scrutinized to be sure they didn’t mean something else. We have lots of fun doing that.

by LoneStranger on Dec 30, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I lived in Japan for a year...

and part of my entertainment was reading the english t-shirts that were so popular with the locals.

They made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Jan 1, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, truth be told,

I almost always did smile the next day.

Actually, I change my answer to always.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 1, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish they made this in adult sizes. I like cows. Cows taste good.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Jan 1, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my asian relatives from China came to visit bearing gifts.

One was a shirt that read:

MY INELLI
    THE ENCE

Falling from grace, cause I've been away too long
Leaving you behind with my lonesome song
Now I'm lost in oblivion.

by danmerqury on Jan 1, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

there will be time,

there will be time
To prepare a fish to meet the fishes that you meet;

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Dec 30, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Do not ask what is it.

Let us go and make our visit.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not converting to Anglicanism.

Forget it.

Old…um, iglew’s lived a long time;
He’s a …um, AN poster who has lived many lives in succession.
He was famous in proverb and famous in rhyme
A long while before Queen Victoria’s accession.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Dec 30, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Good stuff

I’ve done this before when I was calculating distances between California League ballparks while planning a trip. Could’ve saved myself some time just by going to SJ Muni where they’ve had it painted on one of the walls.

Gwinnett is pretty new. The Braves had their Triple-A team in Richmond, VA from 1966-2008. Las Vegas was a Dodgers affiliate for a while until they returned to Albuquerque, which had been a Marlins affiliate before that. Arizona’s got farther away after moving from Tucson but get a nice new ballpark out of it.

Sometimes affiliations change a lot but in other cases they stay the same for a long, long time. We’re a little fortunate that the A’s have affiliates in both Sacramento and Stockton, and Giants fans can go to San Jose or Fresno to see their prospects.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Dec 29, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions  

Neither here nor there

I noticed from the list that there are three pairings of which the AAA city is actually larger than the MLB city. They are Cleveland/Columbus, Pittsburgh/Indianapolis, and Oakland/Sacramento.

by vertig0 on Dec 30, 2009 2:07 AM PST reply actions  

True, but in all three cases the metro area

(ie, MSA) for the MLB city is larger than for the AAA city. Pittsburgh, in particular, has very narrow city limits; it makes up less than 1/4 of the population of Allegheny County, and the metro area extends well beyond the county line.

If you’re counting just the city population, you could add Cincinnati/Louisville and St Louis/Memphis to your list, too.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and Arlington/Oklahoma.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Indianapolis, if I'm remembering right,

was when I was growing up, an Expos affiliate. And the team itself stems from an old Negro League team, the Clowns.

Of course, I can’t be bothered to look anything up, so I’m just gonna throw this out there and let the pedantics correct me.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Dec 30, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedantic is an adjective.

What you meant to say was “let the pedants correct me”.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I love you more right now.

which makes no sense from any kind of ego-perspective.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Dec 30, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

How many single A cities are bigger than the ML affiliate?

It seems to me I have been reading about that somewhere.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Dec 31, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to college in Tacoma, and I miss it so very much.

I had always meant to go to a Rainiers game, but never got around to it.

www.zekeishungry.com

by thejd44 on Dec 30, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

UPS?

I had a friend there, and I love that part of town.

Tacoma, like Oakland, is much nicer than its reputation suggests. (Also like Oakland, it has some very nice parts but also some truly yucky parts.)

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 30, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

UPS is Mrs doctorK's alma mater

A very nice campus.

Hey Al, just go away, baby.

by doctorK on Jan 1, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That's pretty country up there.

I liked that campus too!

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 2, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

very nice iglew

I am impressed that you got the columns lined up, I can never do that.

That is pretty wild that Toronto has a AAA team so far away but I guess with air travel it isn’t too bad. It is a pain to go through customs though.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Dec 30, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Thrifty Twins

Since the Twins are an American League team and their players must have the paperwork to enter Canada during the regular season… and they have to this point been a thrifty team… they’d probably eat 12 extra miles and a handful of extra minutes to send their prospects back to Rochester through Michigan and Ontario without paying avoidable tolls on the Indiana Toll Road, Ohio Turnpike and New York State Thruway.

by muscatel on Dec 30, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

I guess there are a lot of us interested in this info

I always thought the A’s proximity to their AAA team was unique, but I guess that is not the case.

On a side note, I like how Fosse has said on the broadcasts before that when a player is called up, it takes 90 minutes to get from Sacramento to Oakland, but 48 hours to go back.

by darooster on Dec 31, 2009 1:59 AM PST reply actions  

Having their Triple-A team so close has definitely been a plus, not only for the team but fans as well

Much better than when they were located in Edmonton (95-98), Tacoma (81-94) or Ogden (79-80).

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Dec 31, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow -- they've never had a winning season,

and they seem to play a random number of games every year.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 31, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah -- forgot the exchange rate.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 31, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It's the socialized schedule

Everyone has to get a chance.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I am amazed at how much attention this post got.

I almost didn’t bother publishing it because I figured few would really care about such trivia.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Dec 31, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

trivial matters are the only ones that do.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM

by Leopold Bloom on Dec 31, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

attention. good stuff.

owner of a lonely tarp

by oakath on Jan 7, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

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