Merry XMas -- And Many Happy Returns!
Whether you're busy "regifting," or editing next year's XMas list before you forget how Aunt Bertha actually smells, or frantically searching the recycling bin for the receipt, or just screaming to no one in particular, "How can every relative get me a tie, and why can't the A's ever get me a win???" it's officially not {insert your holiday of choice} season any more. The days are getting longer -- and we haven't even seen Dana Eveland pitch yet!
Sorry, no real baseball talk until after the jump...
Technically, I didn't say there would be any real baseball talk after the jump, did I? Don't worry, though -- since you took the trouble to jump all the way to here (which is remarkably like there, only a bit lower), let's go ahead and mix in a little baseball chat on this baseball site.
The problem with Justin Duchscherer, Rich Harden, and Ben Sheets is that they tend to pitch great but can only be counted on for 20ish starts a season instead of 30ish, and that means that they are often only as good as "1/3 of a replacement starting pitcher." And on most teams, where the #5 starter is familiar because he installed your septic tank just last November, the #6 starter is even worse.
The beauty of the 2010 A's is that if Duchscherer's back, elbow, hip, or psyche betrays him after 20 starts, a likely "replacement starter" is Josh Outman, due to return from Tommy John surgery around the 2010 All-Star Break. That's a darn good complement to the Duke as a "30-start monster." And given that currently, Trevor Cahill, Gio Gonzalez, and Vin Mazzaro are fighting for 2 spots in the rotation (behind Duchscherer, Braden, and Anderson), it's conceivable that the loser of the "3 to make 2 sweepstakes" could get the call if Duke goes down but Outman is not ready to step in. It's a pretty darn good situation for the A's to be in.
Assuming, of course, that the others are not bad, and that they stay healthy, which are dangerous assumptions to make about young pitchers and...well....pitchers. My new mantra is "8 to make 5 for starting pitchers, 4 to make 3 in the outfield." If you have 8 decent pitchers, you will probably have a good rotation, and if you have 4 good outfielders you probably can present a decent outfield. Remember when Jay Payton was hired to be the team's 4th OFer in 2006 and wound up playing 292 games? Or has that been his OBP since leaving Oakland? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! It's funny cuz it's true.
I'm not sure if the magic number for infielders is 5 or 6, or whether you need to look at middle infielders and corner infielders separately anyway. I just figure if you go after Marco Scutaro and Aaron Miles and Jamey Carroll and Adam Kennedy and Gregorio Petit, you'll wake up at the end of the calendar year and your infield will still suck.
But man, I like the way the starting pitching is set and the A's may have the best, and deepest bullpen, in the game right now. The defense is going to be a real strength. Now...How to get batters so they're all the way back around to the five-pointed base a little more often?
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Good ANalysis of the A's current situation and scheme...
Everyone here is pulling for Duke and hope he makes every start! Player depth is a good thing to have in Oaktown, and Beane seems to understand this concept finally.
I’m curious to see how Fox, McPhereson, and Chavez contribute to the A’s 3B/DH positions? What kind of expectations can we expect from this trio?
I am also pulling for Beane to sign Jack Cust to another A’s hometown market discount like 2 million base plus incentives ala J.Duke.
Hey ANers, will I have your attention, any quick predictions on where Holliday signs?
We've already established that the cards cheat.
And so does Madonna (lip synching? using enough reverb to sink a battleship?). So it’s the Mets, then.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
How would reverb
Sink a battleship exactly?
"I Will Not Relent, I Am Driven"... Clutch
Bring Back The Bash!!!
The reverberations can be felt on the ocean floor,
scaring several species of shark who, in their frantic and somewhat random gyrations, chomp a hole in the bottom of the ship. It happens a lot when Madonna is on tour.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Maradona Cheats
And so does Henry
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Dec 28, 2009 5:59 AM PST up reply actions
Initial and date where the yellow arrows are, please
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Jesus, Joseph, and Mary! Is that a Blue Letter?!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Dec 27, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think that was Payton's OBP while IN Oakland
I really, really hated Jay Payton. I wish him no success in his future endeavors.
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by thejd44 on Dec 27, 2009 10:22 AM PST reply actions
He actually hit .296 with a .325 OBP.
Considering he played a good CF and great corner OF, he really did do a good job. But that doesn’t mean he’s a good player. Outside of Coors, and since 2006, he’s been pretty meh.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Payton was not good/great on defense.
He was below average in center and right about average in the corners. He was worth barely over a win over his year and a half with the team.
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by thejd44 on Dec 27, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
The A's plan for 2010
Give up no HRs, hit no HRs. And lotsa steals and sacrifices. Let’s see the Runnin’ A’s.
@worldblee on Twitter.
Pretty Much it
The thing is, teams with great pitching and great defense, if the important cogs stay healthy, can contend even if the hitting is a bit thin. The A’s have a handful of players who hit for average (Davis, Sweeney, Suzuki) and a few who COULD hit for average (Ellis, Barton, Crisp), plus a couple of wild cards (Fox, Chavez, Powell, Pennington), with Hairston and Buck hanging out too.
If the A’s can hold it together til mid-season, or even late May, then the lumber of Taylor and Carter come into play.
It’s not likely this team will contend, but it is possible.
Could be an interesting year.
There’s no doubt that Rajai and Coco at the top of the order will at least make things a bit exciting for the offense. Duke-Braden-Anderson is a credible 1-2-3, the back end of the rotation should get at least average production out of Cahill/Mazzaro/Gio and the bullpen is awesome. The overall team defense should be sound, although the left side of the infield (sans Beltre, of course) will still be fairly suspect.
I think that the wildcards of the equation will be Chavez/McPherson (can they stay healthy throughout the duration of the year in order to at least provide 20+ homer pop from the left side?) and can Carter and/or Taylor make the jump to the big leagues in mid-season and provide immediate impact bats…if all three of those things happen, McChaveson stay healthy most of the season and Taylor and Carter can come up mid-season and contribute, you could be looking at a team that could hang around in the beginning of the season with pitching, speed and defense and then really take off after the All Star break with more favorable hitting conditions and with a lineup bolstered by young power.
The depth added by Beane over the past few months makes this type of “dream” situation even more possible, in my opinion, which is exciting…
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
Yes it is exciting...
The only thing is that, the A’s need many things to fall into place for it all to happen!
I think Fox and Hairston are the teams wildcards!
I don't think Coco
is a top of the order hitter on ANY team but the Oakland A’s!
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)




























