A's Select Bobby Cassevah in Rule V; Release Santiago Casilla
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 10, 2009 6:39 AM PST
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PrintUPDATE: The A's released Santiago Casilla.
To make room for Cassevah on their 40-man roster, previously full, the A's designated for assignment right-hander Santiago Casilla, who had been one of their five candidates to not receive a contract offer by Saturday night's tender deadline.
- With the 9th pick of the 2009 Rule V Draft, the A's selected Bobby Cassevah from the Angels.
- baseballamerica.com: Cassevah’s sinker tops out at 93-94 and helped generate 4.03-to-1 groundout-to-airout ratio in ‘09 at Double-A.
- mlb.com: A's scout Randy Johnson, after seeing Cassevah in July, called his slider one of the best he had ever seen.
- In the AAA phase, the A's selected Beau Vaughan from the Rangers.
Scouting Report: Aggressive righty has a fastball reaching 91 mph with good sinking movement. Vaughan is able to throw his biting slider for strikes often. Four strong pitches, but needs a little work on keeping a consistent delivery for all of his pitches. Gets a lot of groundball outs. Struggles against left-handed batters. Fierce with a good mound presence. Good control. Vaughan has moved through the system slowly but surely - he was actually drafted the round before Jonathan Papelbon in 2003. Despite being old for his leagues along the way, Vaughan still has a very good chance to be an effective MLB reliever.
- The A's did not lose any players in the MLB or AAA phases of the draft.
Bobby Cassevah:
Beau Vaughan
Rule V Notes:
- The Nationals take Jamie Hoffmann first overall, and he’ll be traded to the Yankees for Brian Bruney. The Pirates follow with speedster John Raynor out of the Marlins system.
- Orioles take lefty Ben Snyder from the Giants and will trade him to the Rangers in the Kevin Millwood trade. The Royals follow with lefty Edgar Osuna from the Braves.
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there should be one more option in the poll
“This is probably the least exciting Rule-V pick possible, but there is an ok chance that it might work out, so what the hell.”
Looking at Cassevah’s stats, he doesn’t strike people out and he walks too many. But there was one stand out feature:
Career HR/9 = 0.2
Is he a submariner or something? I’m assuming that the total lack of HR allowed means that he gets a lot of ground balls too. Best case scenario is that he turns into another Brad Ziegler — right handed ground ball specialist.
by colin on Dec 10, 2009 7:38 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
???
I don’t see a chance he makes the A’s team un;less they make him a reliever and mop up pitcher. His WHIP is not good unless a coach in AA thinks they can adjust his delivery. strange pick
Never underestimate the magical powers of
Ron Romanick.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Er, no.
After Ziegler switched to submarine pitching, he had a 82:22 K:BB ratio in the minors. Cassevah…doesn’t.
that's why I listed Ziegler
as a best case scenario. I totally agree that Cassevah looks significantly worse in both walks and strikeouts. But just to emphasize the confusing point, we already have Ziegler on the roster, so keeping Cassevah in the majors all year sounds like we are just adding a worse version of Ziggy. Maybe if he was left-handed I could understand it better.
Extreme groundballer
Keith Law tweets: Oakland takes rhp Bobby Cassaveh, who had a 70% groundball rate for the Angels’ AA club this year.
Two things that can predict success in the majors: high strikeout rates, or high groundball rates. At least Cassaveh has one of those traits.
So who got cut?
The A’s 40-man roster on the official site still has 40 people on it. Someone must have been dropped in order for the A’s to make this pick. But I haven’t seen any announcements.
can't find it
Somebody was taken off the 40 man but who?
Casilla
To make room for Cassevah on their 40-man roster, previously full, the A’s designated for assignment right-hander Santiago Casilla, who had been one of their five candidates to not receive a contract offer by Saturday night’s tender deadline.
Question about the trades
Once a Rule V draftee is traded, can he be taken off the new team’s 25-man roster? Or do the Rangers have to offer Ben Snyder back to the Giants if they want to send him down to AAA?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
No.
They have to stay on the 25-man all season. The only way to send them to AAA is if the drafting team refuses to take them back AND they pass through waivers.
Thanks, Ken
It’s not really clear to me why the Yankees would plan to keep a guy like Hoffman on the major-league roster for a whole season. Were they that down on Bruney?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
And it's Rule 5, not Rule V
Even if Tracy frickin’ Ringolsby Himself, the nimrod with the cowboy hat, writes it that way. (The clause in the basic agreement that governs this draft is denoted with an Arabic numeral, not a Roman one.)
One of my (unfortunately long list of) pet peeves.
The last thing we needed was more RP
We have lots of guys waiting in the wings who are much better than Cassevah and Vaughn.
Is it possible we nabbed him
just to screw the Angels somehow?
If so, I like it.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Yeah, I just don't get picking a RHP who is a reliever,
unless the A’s believe he can be a quality starting pitcher someday. It just kicks someone like Meloan off the roster, to add not only the most fungible piece on a roster but also one where the A’s are overstocked.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, I've no problem with the Vaughn selection in the AAA phase, but
Cassevah doesn’t really make sense to me (not unusual with the A’s MLB phase Rule V draft picks the past few years, though, really.)
Why not take Yohan Pino, who was mentioned plenty in write-ups on this site as an intriguing possibility, and see if he could be part of the long-term picture (whether he ended up in the rotation this season or working in the swingman role) instead?
Interestingly, it looks like nobody took Pino- so perhaps there’s something going on with him, or some concerns, that we’re not privy to at this time.
by still bills kingdom on Dec 10, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
I favor RPs in the Rule 5 draft
They wouldn’t be in the draft at all if they were ready to be everyday players or in a rotation. You’re either drafting a backup OF, IF, or a reliever. Relievers are the easiest players to hide on a roster. Even if they’re not ready, they can still be useful, eating up innings in blowouts.
Perhaps, but it also depends where your MLB team is at in terms of contention.
It looks painfully obvious that 2010 is going to be a continuation of the rebuilding process, and a team in rebuilding mode can afford to find a place for a SP that isn’t totally ready for the rotation and can afford to give playing time and a roster spot to a position player they think has long-term potential.
In fact, I would argue it makes better sense for a team in the A’s position to look for somebody who might be really valuable, like a potential SP or a starting position player, and not have it pan out (they can always offer them back if it doesn’t) than to take a RP or potential 4th OF/back-up IF.
by still bills kingdom on Dec 10, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Could this be in anticipation of upcoming trades?
Like Wuertz or even these two for a SP or position prospect?
That's what I was thinking
That, or insurance against injuries (which could also involve Wuertz…)
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Any james skelton groupies leftover from last yr?
LOL we have no idea if any of these players will be good.
After trading gray, looks like casdevah has a similar profile. low-mid 90s sinker, good slider, 4-5 yrs younger. Not sure he’ll stick, but he.ll have some competition w/ meloan and a few others.
It says they released casill than DFA so he’s gone. If you throw 95mph, teams will be interested.
They ended up keeping godfrey (who i wouldnt be shocked passes up a few of their backrotation types next yr), recker, wimberly, etc around for depth
I read the article about Wimberly and how he was real disappointed he wasn't selected last year,
so I imagine he’s feeling about the same this year. I’m happy we still have him though, he was fun to watch for the short bit I saw him in Spring Training. AND, he rocks the stirrups!
by LoneStranger on Dec 10, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
The day he injured himself last season
They were ready to call him up to AAA, after parts of 3 seasons in AA. Since i dont have much hope in patterson, i think wimberly’s elite speed gets him some opportunity next yr
I checked my photos from last season and here's one of Cassevah during the Double-A All-Star Game
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Let's just hope the other teams don't figure out how to "Rock the Cassevah."
by LoneStranger on Dec 10, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
doh, Joke already used an hour ago, down below.
by LoneStranger on Dec 10, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but yours appears first so people will think you came up with it.
by thejd44 on Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
This pun didn't work for me because
I was reading the name as “cas-SEV-uh”. But I’m only reading. Has anyone heard it said out loud who can confirm pronunciation?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Same here
The other guy’s name sticks out more to me.
Every time I read it, I keep hearing Mo Vaughn in my head.
And I immediately thought "Vaughan... a pitcher... WILD THING!"
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by thejd44 on Dec 10, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
I just want to say
that it’s weird for the road uniforms of the Arkansas Travellers to say “North Little Rock”
If they want to be weird, and they want to pay props to North Little Rock, they should put it on the HOME uniforms.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
SCREW SOUTH LITTLE ROCK
inbred southerners!
I assume that’s the context.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Ha. Speaking of prejudices that are socially acceptable....
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
not my context...
I just think it’s a little weird.
I used to live in the south, and I’m only prejudiced against rich people and people who are allergic to cats.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 11, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well, one out of two ain't bad.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ha, no, I'm referring to a simpsons episode
where they start dividing the town up and stuff. It amused me that they only wanted to give a shout out to North Little Rock, and not the South
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Pittsburgh signs Crosby to be a bench player
The Pirates announced the Crosby deal today. Huntington said that Crosby “will provide us with depth off the bench and also has the ability to play regularly should the need arise.”
News Flash
After signing his new contract Bobby jumped for joy and heard something snap. Pirates quicly put him on the DL and is hoping he will be ready for spring training.
by Arcman on Dec 10, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Breaking news...
After Crosby signed his new contract, his father held a press conference to complain that Crosby was WAAAAY more than a bench player.
Can someone clear up the FA rules for me?
What kind of compensation do the Pirates get for signing Crosby?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Dec 10, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think Crosby was a type "B" free agent
and he certainly wasn’t a type “A”
so there’s no compensation involved
What's the compensation for signing a type "Z"?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That's two balls more
than he is worth.
Ed Crosby! Hey you idiot! Your son just got signed to be a bench player! Just like he was on the A’s. Deal with reality.
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Dec 10, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
A box of used 1/4 baseballs
Every hitter likes fastballs, just like everybody likes ice cream. But you don't like it when someone's stuffing it into you by the gallon. That's what it feels like when Nolan Ryan's thrown balls by you. ~Reggie Jackson
we, long time crosby sufferor's get the compensation of him gone.
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
Seems strange that Casilla would just be outright cut
The DFA period removes him from the roster, and considering Tampa is apparently going after any relief pitcher with a pulse right now, and Ed Wade is paying Brandon fucking Lyon 15 million bucks, it’s curious that he would just be outright cut like that.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I think they can still trade him
DFA isn’t ‘outright cut", as non-tendering would have been. They would have had to do that on Saturday if they didn’t offer him arbitration.
Rotoworld is reporting that he was released.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Break out the champagne!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Addition by (long overdue) subtraction!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Dec 10, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Why Wasn't Beau Vaughan a 6-year Free Agent?
Does anyone know why Beau Vaughan was even eligible for the Rule V AAA draft? He was signed in 2003 out of Arizona State, and has 7 years of minor league experience. This means he would have been renewed 6 times, thus eligible for Minor League Free Agency.
Did the Rangers re-sign him to a minor league contract, and then the A’s drafted him? Or are there some exceptions to the 6 year Free Agency rule that apply here? Its not critical in its own right, but I’m always interested in the nuances.
I was thinking that it's too soon for another, "Bobby".
I was hoping to be Booby free for at least a short period of time.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Boobs rock!
I even love my fat-guy a-cup mantitties.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
+1
For both yours and mine!
Ooo! Piece of candy!
by ChickenStanley on Dec 10, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
The Life and Death of Bobby C?
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
If we were going to a select a "C"
I would have preferred
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Dec 10, 2009 2:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
CASILLA DON'T LIKE IT!
Rock the Cassevah
Rock the Cassevah
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Dec 10, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
He'll go well with Tommy Gun Everidge
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Not that I'm overlooking anything
But Randy Johnson is a scout for the A’s? Ha.
Follow on Twitter - @MAD_Marvin
Gotta love that
unless you’re already in love with Randy Johnson.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
The Smaller Units
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Dec 10, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
according to the A's website
look for transactions under the roster menu
The A’s released Casilla, instead of DFA’ing him.
I believe there’s a difference between the two.
There is -- I just edited the title
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
According to the MLB.com article...
To make room for Cassevah on their 40-man roster, previously full, the A’s designated for assignment right-hander Santiago Casilla, who had been one of their five candidates to not receive a contract offer by Saturday night’s tender deadline
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 10, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
That's why I put DFA in the title.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 10, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
yes, but the A's put on their roster transactions
that Casilla was released.
Singer is apparently another MLB.com writer — and he got it wrong.
Yes, a significant difference.
When you DFA a player, they’re immediately removed from the 40 man roster for a period of 10 days. The team then has the option to trade, release, or waive the player.
When he’s released, he’s cut and immediately becomes a free agent.
Basically releasing him instead of DFAing him means they don’t think they could have traded him for anything at all.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
can't a DFA'd player also be re-signed to a minor league contract?
assuming, of course, that the player agrees
(not that I would advocate that for Casilla, there’s no point. Maybe some other organization can help resolve his control and confidence issues.)
So we get Jake Fox, Aaron Miles, Bobby Cassevah and Beau Vaugn
Why am I not excited?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 10, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
More importantly, the A's got rid of Bobby Crosby!
The net gain in WAR from losing Crosby should cancel out the loss from acquiring Miles, right? Right?
by thejd44 on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I should be excited about that.
But I’ve obliterated him from my mind since the end of the season anyway.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
In the grand tradition of Oakland Rule V picks
I expect this to have no impact at all.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
A's RULE V picks since 1998
Bobby Cassevah (2009), Ben Copeland (2008), Fernando Hernandez (2007), Ryan Goleski (2006), Jay Marshall (2006), Tyler Johnson (2004), Frank Brooks (2003 – via trade), Rontrez Johnson (2002), Mike Neu (2002), Jason Grabowski (2001), Bo Porter (1999), and last but not least, Eric Stuckenschneider (1998).
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
players don't make a significan contribution...
ding…ding…ding, you’re the winner!!!
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Dec 10, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
The one, the only
Mike Neu!
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Dec 10, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
hmm, I remember Marshall and Neu and Grabowski...
Maybe this new guy will make the illustrious list of “Names I Recognize Several Years Later.”
by whiteshoes40 on Dec 10, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I was Stuckenschneider once but . . . .
. . . .
"Life without geometry has no point"
someone came by with a rope and pulled me out.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 11, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Same
Complete waste of time, basically. They have significantly better relievers kicking around the high minors.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I'm declaring myself eligible for the Rule V next year.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
It sure seems that way....
even to a casual observer. So what’s the point? This guy is going to occupy a spot on the 40 man roster for seemingly no good reason.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
On the 25 man roster.
not just the 40. The guy is guaranteed a big league job unless he’s returned to Thousand Oaks
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Thousand Oaks?
That’s my hometown so I’m trying to figure out what it has to do with Cassevah.
Thats the name of the team he was aquired from
the Garden Grove Angles of Buena Park.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Ah, I get jokes.
But Thousand Oaks is in Dodgers territory… North of LA.
This is probably beating a dead horse
But for those of us who have no idea what “Dodger Territory” vs “Angels Territory” is, we just list off the names of SoCal cities we have heard of. I like the San Bernadino Angels of Rancho Cucomonga myself, or sometimes the Simi Valley Angels of Van Nuys.
I totally agree
There’s way more variety in this game. It’s not possible to fit all the names of towns in SoCal on a standard refrigerator magnet set.
Simi Valley and Van Nuys are both up toward the northwest side of the city
Anaheim is south of the LA city center. I think of Angels territory as skirting downtown and encompassing basically everything south and east of there.
Unfortunately, that happened to encompass where I went to college (indeed, I arrived there shortly before they won their [merciful Jesu, only] title). Talk about galling.
Costa Mesa Angels of Irvine?
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I join with those who find the
geographically incorrect names no fun. As soon as you leave Orange County it’s no longer funny. Thousand Oaks is just ridiculous. You may as well say Hollywood Angels of Malibu.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
You assume that we give a shit about southern california.
or, at least, give enough of a shit to try and get geographically close.
We don’t.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
No, I'm not assuming you do.
I’m just pointing out that the joke isn’t funny to those who don’t share your happy ignorance.
But before you brought it up I was trying to say so without being a snob about it.
East Coasters who don’t know northern California from southern could call them the Santa Cruz Angels of Sacramento.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
They could
and it would be equally as stupid as a team from anaheim calling itself "los angeles
I mean seriously, what kind of uptight shit is it when someone wants to criticize a joke for being geographically incorrect… when the whole fucking point of the joke is to be geographically incorrect?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Well...
they used to be the California Angels, so it’s not that big a stretch.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
that's just as bad!
thye can’t have the whole state. fuckers.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
philadelphia?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
that's the spirit!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 11, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sparta
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
"[Sabean] said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option." Now THAT'S the way to evaluate your players!
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 10, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Uptight schmuptight.
It’s not funny. I’m just sayin’.
From now on I’m calling them the Bangkok Angels of Phuket. Now that’s funny.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
it's just as accurate as their real name!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
OMFG THATS NORCAL WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
THATS NOT EVEN FUNNY
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Emeryville Angels of Alameda!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Ukiah Angels Of Rocklin!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I want to read a short, poetic meditation on Ukiah,
which is simultaneously a palindrome and a haiku.
That would be very very cool.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
pretty sure i'm too drunk to write one of those right now
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Aw, phuket
Pardon my language.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I drove there once.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Well I mean, I picked up a motorcycle, turned around, and drove back.
I can’t really comment on the night life or the talent there.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I saw the Dallas Cowboys practice there once as a little kid
Roger Staubach was still their QB. So that was kinda cool, even though I’m a Raiders fan.
@worldblee on Twitter.
I once saw the Jets practice in Albany, New York
Underwhelming.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Another thing....
There’s damn sure not a “Thousand Oaks” to be found in that town.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Ash trees.
Oh wait….that’s Fresno.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
My Grandma lived in Camarillo, isn't that close?
"I am happy because I do not have unrealistic expectations"- Karma Ura...or an A's fan.
by DyeLongJustice on Dec 10, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Get stoned.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
He's depth in case Beane can move one of the A's big league relievers later this Winter
The monster at the end of this blog.
yeah
I’m sure you could do worse than having a guy with a 70% GB rate as a 4th option out of the bullpen. Shit, Dan Geise and Kevin Cameron threw like 40 innings for the A’s this year.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
It's a shot in the dark. I don't think Casilla was going to be like his 07/08 self again.
If this guy works out, that’s great. If he doesn’t, it’s not like the team is forced to keep him for the whole year. They can send him back.
by LoneStranger on Dec 10, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
It's the opportunity cost that's annoying, not the replacement-level fodder that they actually got
I mean, he’s basically exactly the same as every other replacement-level relief pitcher out there.
Still— would much rather have had Lofgren or either of the guys NSJ talked about the other day. Or basically anything other than the 92332749th relief pitcher in the system.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I've got a conspiracy theory for you, Paul
Chew on this:
Is it possible that teams are making “deals” to avoid taking each other’s Aneury Rodriguezes and Corey Wimberlys?
Tampa: We don’t want to lose this guy. Everyone agrees that he’s not ready for the big leagues yet, but he might be a major leaguer eventually if he goes unpicked and doesn’t have his development stunted by rotting on the bench.
Oakland: We don’t want to lose our guy, for the same reasons.
Tampa/Oakland/several other GMs with strong working relationships: “I won’t take Wimberly, Recker, Rodriguez, etc. if you don’t take Player X from me.”
Or maybe that makes absolutely no sense at all. :)
It just blows my mind that teams look at the stats of Pino especially, but even Aneury Rodriguez, too, and don’t think it’s worthwhile to pay that pitcher 400K to be your 7th reliever next year, on the chance that he’ll eventually be a fifth starter. I don’t get it. Granted, I can only see their stats, but even their scouting reports are pretty good.
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Dec 11, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to imagine that kind of cartel holding up, IMO
Too hard to enforce market discipline.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
Why the heck would anyone care if someone else wanted to stash Corey
Wimberly or Aneury Rodriguez on their roster for a year? Doesn’t sound like it’s worth conspiring over.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 13, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Musical Chairs
They were going to release Casilla anyway and wanted a warm body. But that warm body will cost the team $25,000 - not a whole lot of money, but certainly enough to have provided the salary of a young intern in the promotions department, for instance - when he’s returned either before spring training or before the start of the season. No way this melon stays with the club through September.
The A's really need a primer on how to use the Rule V draft.
Currently, “not at all” would be a substantial upgrade.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Cough
certainly enough to have provided the salary of a young intern in the promotions department
Or a summer associate in the legal department.
Not that I’m bitter or anything.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I'm going to use my cough for the part you have in italics
except, more like
certainly enought to have provided some of the salary for a sorta young marketing whizkid to make following this ballclub a more pleasant prospect
I’m talking about myself, if anyone was unsure of that fact.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
OR AN ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT GM
not that I’m bitter or anything.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Isn't that Zaidi?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
isnt he the director of scouting
or director of player development or somethin?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I don't know though I vaguely recall
…someone posting a link with A’s jobs they were hiring for and Assistant to the Assistant GM being one of them.
But hey, I’d take Assistant to the Assistant to the Assistant GM.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
i just wanna work for em.
I’m easy like that.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Farhan Zaidi is Director of Baseball Operations.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
That sounds important and vague.
Therefore it’s really awesome.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 13, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
ever get that thing when you have bamboo stuck under your fingernails and they’re bleeding and the toothpicks coming out your eyeballs start to smart and the spikes in the iron maiden are starting to itch some and you try to reply to someone and your reply comes out like a new comment? yeah, i hate it when that happens.
don't care if i ever get back.
If I only had 8 million dollars for every time that's happened to me.
bamboo stuck under your fingernails and they’re bleeding and the toothpicks coming out your eyeballs start to smart and the spikes in the iron maiden are starting to itch some, I mean. Not screwing replies up. I never screw replies up.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I like the scouting reports, at least
MAJOR GB pitcher with a great slider and sinker…perhaps this is a player with much better talent than stats? Perhaps the A’s see something about Cassevah they think they can easily fix, and figured it was worth the minor gamble? I’d like to see him pitch before I write him off.
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
"[Sabean] said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option." Now THAT'S the way to evaluate your players!
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 10, 2009 12:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
So, the A's selected a melon?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
I can't wait for this line on Gameday.
Pitching Substitution: Cassevah replaces Meloan.
Your day breaks, your mind aches.
You find that all her words of kindness linger on
when she no longer needs you.
LOL
now, we need a batter with a food name. Too bad Chili Davis doesn’t play still.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Dec 10, 2009 2:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
One of those guys replacing each other
To pitch to Coco Crisp is likely the best all-food game sequence we’ll get.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Dec 10, 2009 2:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well, they'll presumably be giving Jack Custard BP
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
I thought a cassava was some kind of root vegetable
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
That's the bread
Made from Yuca
by OaklandSi on Dec 10, 2009 5:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just the thing to cleanse the palate after the balut.....
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Dec 10, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
In order to properly clean the palate
after consuming balut, one needs kerosene and a match.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
jesus, not even I would eat that
and I eat all sorts of shit
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
I was thinking some form of clergyman
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
you use a clergyman to cleanse your palate?
Dude.. .we need to sit down and talk.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Oh, I'm sorry
I appear to have confused “palate” with “soul.”
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I'm probably in the exception here...
But I rather enjoy balut. It’s like a super eggy, egg if that makes any sense.
by eastbayexpat on Dec 11, 2009 5:12 AM PST up reply actions
You are correct about cassava.
I believe the others are referring to the casaba melon, a variant of the melon we know best as “honeydew”.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
correction
a TASTIER variant of honeydew.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Dec 10, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
I was wondering about the history of this thing
And found an article from THT that gives the Cliff Notes version of it:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-ten-most-interesting-rule-5-draft-picks-1903-1940/
Enjoy, for anyone else who is interested
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
I love THT.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I find it very odd that the Rule 5 draft existed long before the, you know, actual draft did
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
by PaulThomas on Dec 10, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Without Reading any comments
I like this signing. I could see him cracking the starting 5 out of Spring Training. Heck, this could potentially save the A’s millions of dollars down the line (Cahill to AAA).
It's the new direction of the club. Start off with a couple-three relievers until the fifth, when you switch to your starters to close out the game.
by LoneStranger on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
When Lou Pinealla was in charge of those really awful TB teams
Didn’t he seriously consider doing this? Or maybe it was a [n empty] threat just to try to motivate his players. Either way I remember something like this brought up on ESPN several years ago.
If you think Billy Beane is a bad GM, I hate you and find you stupid.
Didn't the Giants do this with Lincecum during a rain threatened game last year?
I seem to remember, there was a threat of rain, so they started w/ a reliever, and then brought in Tim post downpour.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
No, that's what the non-idiots at McC THOUGHT they should have done
Instead they put Lincecum out there, the game had the predictable rain delay, and he ended up throwing about 100 pitches sandwiched around a delay of like 45 minutes.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
Wow.
You know that physical wincing reaction you get when reading about someone getting kicked in the nads?
Your day breaks, your mind aches.
You find that all her words of kindness linger on
when she no longer needs you.
OK so I found the actual game wrap for that game
Here’s the deal. He was lined up to start, but there was rain so they started a reliever instead. (God only knows if they warmed him up first…) Then, BEFORE the rain, they brought him into the game as a relief pitcher. He pitched an inning. Then there was a 74-minute delay. Then they sent him back out to pitch three more innings.
So, to summarize, they got all of four innings out of a game in which he warmed up at least twice, possibly three times, and pitched around a 74-minute rain delay. You just run out of things to say, frankly.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
Schulman's wrap
here.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I'm scared for that guy's health
It’s a shame that the Giants are abusing such an arm. It really is a joy to watch him (if I pretend he’s in green and gold).
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
According to Gnats Manager Bruce Bochy,
Lincecum has what’s called a rubber arm. After his starts, he doesn’t need to ice his arm down, etc. In other words his arm doesn’t hurt after throwing. He is truly gifted & can quote " fire it up" when he needs to. He is truly a freak in a good way.
Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.
Yeah
bullshit.
he’s in his early 20s still. doesnt matter that he’s got very, very good mechanics and probably doesn’t put quite as much stress on his arm as other pitchers. that shit is NOT good for you.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
mikev: I wouldn't quarrel with you
about how a pitcher’s arm can be abused. There’s a high probability that in the very near future, he will hurt his arm / shoulder or some other body part.
Using Lincecum in the manner they did after a rain delay is pathetic. Look at the number of Innings he’s pitched in the last two years, & his golden arm might just snap.
Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.
The same type of things were said about Daisuke Matsusaka
How he once threw 200 pitches in a game in highschool, didn’t ice his shoulder, etc etc.
That didn’t work out so well either
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I was just thinking
how if there had been blogs back in 80-81, we may have heard the same sort of comments about Mike Norris and Rick Langford-they can pitch on short rest, long outings are no problem.
All it takes is one tweak and everything changes.
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
ah, well, that was my mistake
once again, I’m confusing ‘reality’ with ‘what I thought should have happened’.
See also, my several dates with Anne Hathaway in 2006
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
I always wondered if there could be a strategy to that.
Sort of a Disco Hayes “why hasn’t anyone tried that?” kind of thought:
Have both a LHP and RHP ready to pitch the game, but announce some reliever as the starter and let him pitch one inning. Then bring in your real starter for the 2nd, and bring in whichever guy is a better matchup against the opposing lineup. The idea would be the other teams couldn’t stack up RH hitters against your LH pitcher and LH hitters against your RH pitcher.
Since it never happens, my guess is that it would be too disruptive for the starting pitchers to not know for sure what day they will really pitch on.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
interesting stat
According to minor league baseball reference, Cassevah has given up 6 HRs in 270 IP. Thats keeping the ball in the park.
Another RP?
WTF
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
P.S...........
Why was Jamie Hoffman unprotected?
Does not compute.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Maybe she WANTED to get pregnant
Did you consider that???
-Cindi
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
.....
WTF
-Daniel777
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Of course the F
How else is she going to get preggies?
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
immaculate conception?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
9 months worth of pain and suffering
where’s the fun in immaculate conception? At least get a nice tussle first.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
Not all nine months are pain and suffering.
There’s that nice glow period where everything is wonderful. Most of the pain and suffering is crammed in at the end.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
TWSS
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Dec 11, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Five minutes with Travis Henry
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
"[Sabean] said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option." Now THAT'S the way to evaluate your players!
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 10, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
The sad thing is, I'd almost rather have Casilla
ALMOST being the key word.
"I am happy because I do not have unrealistic expectations"- Karma Ura...or an A's fan.
We could have got Kanekoa Texeira
And instead we got this Cassevah guy?
Mariners are pwning us at the moment IMO.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
The A's have finished with a sub-.500 record 3 years running
Everyone pwns us.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Don't worry
We picked up 3 wins just by Crosby being off the team..
Well, kind of a lame pick up
Not really the most exciting pick for the Rule V draft, but the stakes aren’t really that high. I mean, if I were to find a coin on the ground I’d rather it be a nickel than a penny, but at the end of the day it really doesn’t matter. Maybe Cassevah can learn to throw strikes and be a useful reliever, but probably not. Either way I can’t really manage to muster much concern over the pick.
Maybe somebody has mentioned this
But Bobby Crosby, the guy who was furious about playing backup last year, just signed to be a backup with the PIRATES. There is some wonderful, wonderful poetic justice there.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Dec 10, 2009 10:19 PM PST reply actions
Random
If we’re looking for more cheap IF options that can play 3B…what about Craig Counsell? Likely cheap, solid defender, decent OBP. If it’s him or Jamey Carroll, I’d prefer Counsell…
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
"[Sabean] said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option." Now THAT'S the way to evaluate your players!
...or the A's could actually sign a player who DOESN'T suck
Earth-shattering concept, I know.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
I was operating under the assumption Beane is going to Wishing Well trying to find third basemen
"[Sabean] said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option."
by CaliforniaJag on Dec 11, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
I like Counsell too. He'd be the starting 3B.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 13, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Rule 5 Conspiracy Theory
(Apologies for the re-post)
Chew on this:
Is it possible that teams are making "deals" to avoid taking each other’s Aneury Rodriguezes and Corey Wimberlys?
Tampa: We don’t want to lose this guy. Everyone agrees that he’s not ready for the big leagues yet, but he might be a major leaguer eventually if he goes unpicked and doesn’t have his development stunted by rotting on the bench.
Oakland: We don’t want to lose our guy, for the same reasons.
Tampa/Oakland/several other GMs with strong working relationships: "I won’t take Wimberly, Recker, Rodriguez, etc. if you don’t take Player X from me."
Or maybe that makes absolutely no sense at all. :)
It just blows my mind that teams look at the stats of Pino especially, but even Aneury Rodriguez, too, and don’t think it’s worthwhile to pay that pitcher 400K to be your 7th reliever next year, on the chance that he’ll eventually be a fifth starter. I don’t get it. Granted, I can only see their stats, but even their scouting reports are pretty good.
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Dec 11, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions
It's believable.
Plus, MLBPA wouldn’t have any say in the matter since minor league players aren’t part of the Players Union, right?
Incidentally, nice profile pic you handsome devil!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
thank you
(how did you know I was the infant?)
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Dec 12, 2009 6:03 AM PST up reply actions
Cause that's the only way you end up in the pic with the hot girl
The monster at the end of this blog.
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