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(Un)official AN Tech Request Thread

I don’t know what the upgrade schedule is for the SB Nation tech crew, but now that they’re done with the minor facelift and the regular season is over, I figure this is a good time to exchange notes about technical fixes and feature requests. I’ve seen occasional comments in other threads over the year, but I’m sure the techs never see them. If we put them all in one place, maybe they will.

Although the two are sometimes connected, I’d rather not let this thread be about the recent update to the look of the site. Perhaps there could be another thread for that. For this one I’m more interested in functionality than appearance.

Star-divide

Here's what I've collected on my wish list over the past year.

Do something about auto-format in comments.

If you type

_emphasis_

it comes out as

emphasis

This trick, along with other similar ones, was presumably intended to be helpful.

Unfortunately, there are also many undesired consequences. For example, if you write a syntactically reasonable sentence like:

His UZR was -1.5 but his wOBA was .350, so
over all I’d give him an A-

it would come out as

His UZR was 1.5 but his wOBA was .350, so over all I’d give him an A

Other examples abound.

Personally, I’m not bothered by auto-format. I have a pretty good idea of how the code algorithms work and I habitually use preview, so I am almost never tripped up by it. I do make use of it fairly often, but there’s nothing I use it for that I couldn’t do almost as easily with basic HTML tags. If I save a few keystrokes typing

_very_

instead of

<i>very</i>

I lose them right back when I have to type

&#42;sigh&#42;

to get

*sigh*

For me, the net gain is pretty trivial. For most other users I suspect the net is negative. My impression from what I’ve read in the threads is that most people dislike autoformat, and several loathe it with a passion. Few actually like it, and those who do use it, like me, wouldn’t miss it much if it were gone. (The poll below will get a fresh read on that to see if I’m right.

I can think of several ways in which auto-format could be improved, but I think the simplest solution would be just to get rid of it altogether.

Don’t mark all comments read when leaving a page.

It’s number two on this list, but for me personally this is my number one complaint and request. There are many many reasons why I might leave a thread before I’ve read all the comments, some intentional and some not. Maybe I have limited time, so I am able to read a few of the comments but not all of them. Or maybe I’m not in a hurry but the thread is so huge I need to take a break before I’m finished. Maybe I open up a thread but my browser chokes on an ad and crashes. Maybe I click on a link and forget to make it open in a separate tab. Maybe I’m in a busy game thread and just as I’m about to click "post" the screen jumps around with new comments so that my click lands on someone’s name instead, sending me to their user page. Maybe I’m just stupid and close the page when I didn’t want to.

No matter what the reason, when I come back to the thread, all the comments are marked read, even though I’ve read only some of them. This is very annoying. The feature that marks comments read is a wonderful wonderful thing and is a major part of SB Nation’s awesomeness. But the wonderfulness is rudely taken away any time it marks comments read when I haven’t read them yet.

There is almost no reason to deliberately mark all the comments read when leaving a thread. If you’re not done reading yet, you want them to remain in unread mode. If you are done reading, they’re all marked read anyway, so it doesn't matter. If you’ve lost interest and don’t intend to finish, you aren't coming back so against it doesn't matter. The only time you’d want them all marked is if you read them all but without using X and Z along the way, or in the unlikely event that you decide you don’t want to read the current comments but you do want to read any new ones that come along. And if ever that’s the case, all you have to do is type shift-A before leaving.

I don’t know how a user's comments-read data is stored, so I can’t say whether this is an easy fix or a hard one, but even if it is hard, it’s something you should figure out and make work, because it would be a big big improvement.

Different sig lines on different blogs

In the days before the SB Nation conglomeration, I had a sigline on Lookout Landing that said something like "visiting Oakland A's fan". It's useful to use the signature as a way to identify yourself, and how you would introduce yourself in a sports bar you only occasionally visit may be different from what you say to the gang where everybody knows your name.

Under the new regime, you get just one sigline and you have to use it everywhere. That sucks.

Earlier this year on LL I saw a line that I very much wanted to make my sigline there, but it was Seattle-centric, and it would confuse people if it were to appear on AN, so I couldn't use it. That sucks. I want to be able to have a different sigline on each blog.

(While you're at it, you may want to impose a maximum size on siglines. Right now, it's something enormous. Personally I don't like any sigline that goes beyond one line on a full column, but I know that would never fly with others here. Still, you could at least stop people from having a whole freakin' short story under every comment, as a few people have done.)

Subject lines for comments

An item on Lookout Landing’s style guide says:

Always use the subject line when making a comment. Even if it's one word that leads into your post. There are a few reasons for this, among them being that it makes comments easy to hide if necessary (while at work, some people don't want some of the more...shall we say, expressive images on their monitors for all to see), that it allows for easier moderation of comments, and that it just looks better.

AN is generally more permissive than LL, but I for one wish that subject lines were used more consistently here.

I love the feature for collapsing comments. (For those who don’t know, if you click on the subject line of a comment, it collapses down to just the subject line. Then if you click again the full comment returns.) I use this with great regularity. It’s especially useful on game threads with lots of pictures, but I’ll frequently reduce long text comments as well. I just like to tidy up the page and make it so I don’t have to scroll so far on a long thread.

But if a comment has no subject line, this does not work. Also, if you have your default comment format set to "closed" on your user settings – I experimented with this for a while, but am not using it now – any comment with no subject line disappears completely and can’t be retrieved at all.

Everything would work better if all comments had subject lines. However, I know my peers on AN, and I know that if someone tried to post without a subject line and got an error message saying "you must provide a subject line", that would piss people off. So instead of doing that, why not have a default subject line that always fills in? Any time someone posts without a subject line, AN makes one that says "..." or "[no subject]" or whatever.

Et cetera

Keep screen focused on highlighted comment. I've only noticed this on fast-moving gamethreads, but when a bunch of new comments come in, it makes things move around on the screen. If I'm in the process of reading unread comments, this can be confusing because it bumps my current comment right off the screen, forcing me to scroll around to figure out where the heck I was. Is it possible to make it so the highlighted comment stays visible?

Prevent excessive consecutive FanPosts. There have been a few times where an enthusiastic newcomer comes along and proceeds to write three or four FanPosts in one afternoon, shoving others off the front-page list prematurely. We don't want to limit participation too much, but I wonder if it isn't a good idea to impose a mild limit, like maybe no more than two per day. Or if it's possible, arrange it so that if you do post multiple successive fanposts, you bump your own off the list, not someone else's.

Underline. I would like to see <u> supported for underlines. (The HTML tag is fine, no need for auto-formatting.)

SF Gate links. If you include a URL in a comment, AN knows to convert it to a link. Ideally, posters would use the link tool instead, but since they often don't, this is a handy backup feature. However, the feature fails on SF Gate links. I think it has to do with the "=/" characters that appear in every SF Gate URL. AN thinks the URL ends with the equals sign, so the link is busted.

'Clear' button for new comment. If I type a reply to someone and then on second thought decide not to post, I click the "cancel" button and it's gone. If I'm typing a fresh comment at the bottom of the thread, there is no "cancel" button until I preview. Then if I cancel, it only makes the preview go away, but the text I typed is still there in the window until I deliberately delete it. I want a "clear" button to delete the rejected text.

Seconds in time stamp. There have been a few times in game threads when it was debated who said something first, where it would be fun to see the time stamp to the second. But maybe that's excessive....

That's everything on my list. If you have others, or further comments on any of these, please add them in the comments.

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What do you think of AN’s auto-formatting in comments?

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I'm with you on a lot of this, especially automatically marking all the threads read

I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve clicked to read a thread or go to catch up on one that’s had a bunch of comments since the last time I was in it, only for things to time out but still mark it all read when I reload it. That is about as annoying as it gets.

Take away automatically marking a thread read and let me decide to either X my way through it or Shift-A when I want to.

With the auto formatting, especially when using certain characters, I could see it being useful to have some kind of option to disable it. Sure, you can click on the formatting guide, but there’s nothing I can see that lets you turn it off.

Good point on requiring a subject line. This would be a good thing to add. I almost always use a subject line, especially if it’s short enough that I don’t need to carry it over into the body of the post for a longer comment.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 10, 2009 12:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a fan of requiring a subject line (nor the default line)

However, it seems pretty simple to add a little deal like the “+” thing for replies or actions that would show up regardless of a subject line to denote the start of a new comment. As it opens up options for the reply/action, it would close/open comments. As long it’s something simple and discrete, it wouldn’t get in the way or detract from the appearance of the page.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my main issue with the subject line

is the ability to collapse and expand the comment. If there were something else to click on that did the same thing, that would be good enough for me.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, completely understand where you're coming from

and agree that there should be an alternative.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know, the autoformat has never tripped me up.

I have no problem with it. And I use it pretty regularly. But if that many people hate it, it’s not that big of a deal, I suppose. And I agree with you, iglew, on the marked read comments when you leave thing.

Another thing I found, I assume it started with the AN refresh:

If I have multiple AN tabs open, I’ve found that if I reply to a comment in one, the CX functionality stops working on the others. CX still highlights and marks the yellow comments, but it doesn’t move the browser down to the next comment, which makes it unusable. It’s not consistent and I can’t duplicate the error, unfortunately. I’m running Firefox 3.5 on Windows 7, if that helps.

No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.

by danmerqury on Nov 10, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Autoformat doesn't mess me up because I often preview things that are more than just...

…a couple lines without any special characters, and I use the icons to bold and so on. But, for people who are used to another way, I can see it being a problem.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 10, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think more importantly is that no one benefits from it

And no matter how careful any particular user is, others aren’t and we all have to read the garble that ensues.

Its like a replacement level hitter who plays shitty defense: No benefit on one side, real cost on the other. You DFA those players.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

RBIs!!!!!

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*cough* It wouldn't be an issue if we were able to edit comments. *cough*

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if it's possible

But an edit comment feature has been on my wish list for years.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Nov 10, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

This

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think that comment editing could be problematic

Situations where it is great:
*hideous typos that you somehow didn’t notice until you hit post
*deleting redundant comments, like if someone makes the exact same point but 5 seconds earlier
*you used a capital ‘G’ when writing grover’s name

But once other people have started replying to your comment, going back to edit it would destroy the linearity of the conversation. For instance, take nevermoor’s comment above consisting of only ‘This’, in reply to vignette17. If vignette was feeling particularly juvenile (hilarious? frisky?), he would edit his comment to say something like “Bobby Crosby is the greatest shortstop of all time” and it would be up to nevermoor to notice and retract his endorsement. Ok, this is sort of a dumb example, but a lot of people are reading these conversations after the fact, and it would just confuse things if the replies were edited out of chronological order. You could make every comment include a “history” link, like wikipedia pages, but this is starting to get pretty complicated.

by colin on Nov 10, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's really not a dumb example at all

It’s probably a main reason why comment editing isn’t in place already.

I’ve seen it allowed on other places where you can edit the comment until someone replies, then it’s locked in.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 10, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So if you're juvenile/hilarious/frisky

you can go around making replies that say, “Ha ha, you made a typo! Now you can’t fix it.”

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, OK.

I was thinking of people wanting to go back and edit something later, not immediately after posting. As a habitual previewer, it didn’t occur to me you’d spot something immediately after posting.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was thinking more in the sense of...

…“Oh crap, I just posted that and I saw the typo!” kinds of things.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 10, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What about an edit feature

that only allowed you to strike out parts of your own post and/or type in new content (maybe in a different color), so that everyone could see what you had said before but could also just focus on what you meant to say.

So a comment might look like (bold = new color):

That’s because your you’re an idiot.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 10, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Talk about a feature request that would be

impossible to implement!

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or just a blanket note

that says “This post has been edited” that’s programatically slapped on to any edited post.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be fine with me

I’m thinking about things like that image I linked of where strikes are called. It was a normal size on the site I linked from, but only because that site scaled it down.

Obviously, preview helps. Editing would help more.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've actually had formatting go bonkers between preview and post

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard of this but never experienced it.

If this ever happens again, could you please take note of it, so that I can try to replicate it?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure. It's been a long time since, so it may be fixed.

I’ve also stopped using preview for the most part. If I’m recalling correctly it had to do with using html tagging for italics instead of their special scripting.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 11, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Impossible.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 11, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like all of these changes

And I bet anyone could guess my vote in the poll.

I will say, though, that after building a comment-read-tracking site your suggestion about unread comments is likely hard to the point of impossible. There are only, as far as I know, two options for tracking what you’ve read: page access date and scroll identification (think google reader). The former is utterly incapable of the feature you want, the latter would make handling AJAX added comments (the ones that pop-up while the thread is open) absurdly difficult.

I guess my point is just that that’s not one to hold your breath for.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was worried that might be a hard one to implement.

It’s surely not impossible. If nothing else, you could brute-force it by keeping a table for every thread for every user. But if it requires restructuring the entire process, I can see why they wouldn’t want to take that on.

If it is confirmed by the techs as indeed impractical, then perhaps our focus should shift to other ways to reduce the situations in which it is unwanted.

You mentioned date stamp. Can there be a function that says “revert to previous date stamp”? So if something goes awry and all the comments get read you can do something like an “undo” and put them back to where they were from your previous visit. That doesn’t solve the problem where you’ve read half the comments and then accidentally leave the page, but it does solve the problem where you’re coming back to a page with a fresh set of unread comments and it doesn’t load properly, like Flashfire describes in the first sentence in the first comment above. That’s at least something.

What other clever patches might there be? Could there be a short-term memory of read-vs-unread status of the current page that somehow allows an “put me back where I was” sort of action on occasions where you accidentally leave a page?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The double date-stamp would be easy (although, as you said, not a complete solution)

The problem with anything else is that if you just scroll down (rather than using z or some other key) there’s no way to track other than what Google Reader does. You’ll notice that Google Reader doesn’t do a good job of handling stories that post while you’re reading through the feed.

The multiple table brute force would be untenable for such a large site (each user would generate huge numbers of entries each day since you’d basically have to have a data point for each AN user * each AN comment)

I agree that it’s not impossible, but it may well be practically impossible for SBN’s techs (time/budget/skill/browser technology limitations).

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, I can see that the brute force is impractical.

I’m reasonable, and I understand that some things either can’t be done or are too hard to be practical. However, as a matter of principle, I think that in software one should never be quick to say, “oh, you can’t do that”, even though I know that’s the first reaction of many techs. Better to put them in a position where you say, “I don’t care if it’s impossible, I want you to figure out a way to do it anyway.” Maybe it’s still impossible, but it at least makes you rethink your assumptions and unleashes creative thinking about other ways to achieve the same goal. Some of the most powerful innovations in software have come from that kind of approach.

So I’m still saying: We really want to be able to leave a thread without marking all the comments read. I don’t think anyone disagrees about the desirability. Let the techs mull over this and think if there’s some ingenious way to do it that you and I aren’t thinking of.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's fine

I’m just saying it’s good to know what you’re asking for. This one is clearly important to you (and others), but back when I did this kind of stuff it seemed that you got better requests if people understood what they were asking.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was told the opposite once.

I used to approach tech requests with the attitude of thinking about how the code must work and telling them how they could restructure. I was told it would be more helpful if I was just clear on what my functionality goals are and leave it to the techs to figure out the best way to do it. What I inferred from that is (1) sometimes I really don’t know how the code works even if I think I do, and (2) I’m too narrowly focused on a specific way of fixing something when there could be a better way of satisfying my goals that I’m not thinking of.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I didn't explain well

I didn’t mean “understand the code” but rather “understand the size of the request” I got a lot of “wouldn’t it be nice if…” requests that were a lot harder to implement than the more important ones. I found that knowing the difficulty – if, as you say, not the actual code – helped people prioritize intelligently.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even if you know exactly what you want and how to do it

this is still probably true.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Based on some assumptions about the underlying code

I’m guessing the following about implementation difficulty:

Removing auto-format: Mind-numbingly easy (mostly spent finding the auto-format function call and commenting it out)
Not marking all comments read: On the impossible end of difficult, without removing more important features
Different sig lines: easy
Blank-subject handling: easy to moderately difficult, depending upon handling mechanism
Screen focus: moderately difficult
Consecutive fanposts: easy, but should probably be the mods’ job rather than the underlying tech. I think it’s in the CGs
Underline: depending upon how customized the coding is, easy to moderately difficult
SF Gate links: easy, but necessarily inelegant or, perhaps, a more difficult/elegant method is available.
Clear button: very very easy.
Seconds in time stamp: very very easy
Edit your own comments: moderately difficult.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re subject lines

If the solution instead is to add a little button alongside “up”, “reply” and “actions” which says “collapse”, would that be easy? If so, I would happily settle for that. (I do want it to be a separate button, though, not a sub-button of “actions”. And of course if the comment is already collapsed then the button says “expand” and does the reverse.)

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume so.

The easiest would be to have it automatically put in a default line

That type of option would be next easiest

Some more clever handling would be harder.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still like the default subject line, but

it sounded like others might have an aesthetic objection to that.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As a short term deal

I don’t see anything wrong with it. It doesn’t happen off. Just not a fan of some automated, generic title being thrown up.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If removing auto-format is mind-numbingly easy,

does that mean it would also be very easy for this to be a setting that the mod of each blog can choose to turn on or off?

I ask because if there is not consensus about whether auto-formatting is good or bad, we have a laboratory of 100+ blogs and each mod can make a choice. Then we’ll see what people like better in actual practice.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume so

Usually the way you do that stuff is to pass the text through a function that does the shortcuts. Turning it off would just mean killing the function reference (or having the function return its input). Making it a mod setting would require adding a bit to the admin control area and having the function check that flag. Harder, but not much.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

spoiled kids

ya never had to type out code in vi – now there’s a “feature” request you worthy of complaints.

Seriously, the login box with browsers (IE8 here) that have autofill is my pet peeve. Everytime I try to select my login name from the autofill, the login box disappears. This costs me another 0.8 seconds of my life to click again.

by rollierollieOxenfree on Nov 10, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

bring it on

emacs for life!

by colin on Nov 10, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In a former life, I worked on dedicated typography machines

(eg, Compugraphic). Everything was done with codes, and I loved it. When the MCS was introduced, the big deal was there was a preview type display that showed on the screen what the output was going to look like. That was great, but you still typed the code, you didn’t actually edit on the preview screen. Then wysi(n)wyg came along and spoiled everything.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some of us have and still do once in a blue moon.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In the poll,

auto-format is faring better than I expected. I figured it would be overwhelmingly negative.

I suspect our sample is being skewed by self-selection based on the title of the post. The only people coming in to read are people interested in tech questions, and we are disproportionately likely to use preview and/or intuitively grasp what the auto-format algorithms are doing.

Maybe I should change the title to “Do you hate auto-format??” and see what happens.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

It’s losing 4-12. I’m not surprised that most people pick the moderate negative options.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think of the middle option as neutral,

so it’s losing 4-6, which is not as dramatic as I expected.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, I did ask tech support

about removing the “strike-through” auto feature and was told it’s not an especially simple fix and it wouldn’t be on the front burner, but the request was noted. This was prior to the “visual refresh” so I imagine 99.4% of tech’s focus was on that. Anyway, the request has been made on behalf of the community but I don’t know what to expect in terms of follow-up.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 10, 2009 5:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pulling strike through out of the auto-format

is probably difficult. Turning the entire thing off may be easy.

I assume that when it’s turned off we’ll also lose things like dashes and smart quotes, but that doesn’t bother me.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say that right now there's nothing that's omg this needs to be fixed now

For the most part, they’ve done an amazing job. Pretty much everything I see here is, as the post suggests, just requests so that the techies have a direction on what people would like in the future, even if in some cases we’re looking at a much more distant v4 release. But it is nice to know (at any time really) that things like that are on their to-do list.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 10, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of having unique signatures on each SBN blog

having unique pictures would be nice too…..

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Nov 10, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I had a banana chip implantained in my brain

It hasn’t helped overall, but some of the outer parts are a peeling.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 10, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want a vending machine with buffalo chips.

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 11, 2009 1:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I left the banana chips at my office.

None here at home. How will I feed my banana chip craving???

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are these things called "stores"

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 11, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please let me unsubscribe from blogs I don't want to be a part of.

It boggles the mind that this function actually IS a part of SBN, but it only works if you’ve joined a blog and NEVER posted there.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 10, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

twss

too easy dept.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 10, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since I can imagine technical reasons

Would instead being able to control which blogs are in the “My Blogs” dropdown be sufficient?

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather be able to get rid of being a member of a blog completely

It doesn’t need to show on the list of blogs you’re a part of if you don’t want it to.

Staying a member of it or not shouldn’t affect the posts or comments that have been made.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 10, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't make any sense though.

If you join a blog, before you make a post there you can go look at the “my blogs” page and there is actually a leave blog link.

For some reason this changes from leave blog to favorite

Who knows why.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 10, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is that it would mess up the databases

i.e. if you quit AN, the database query for this thread (and, of course, many others, would break when it tried to find an icon/username/etc for the user id associated with your comments.

That could, of course, be handled (but probably not elegantly – especially in conjunction with the separate sigs request). It depends on SBN’s database structure how difficult that would be.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 10, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard this complaint, and I intended to mention it,

but when I tried I realize I don’t actually understand what you mean. What does it mean to “subscribe” to a blog or be a “member” of it? Are you talking about which ones show up on your user page?

Aside from AN (which I visit regularly) and LL (which I visit occasionally), I once signed up for Beyond the Box Score, so now it too appears on my list even though I never go there. Is that what you mean?

Does being a “member” of that blog actually affect me in any way besides showing on my list? I haven’t noticed any.

I’m not being snarky here. I’m just trying to understand what it is that bothers several of you, since obviously I’m not getting it.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 10, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's about being a member.

The blogs you register for show up in the pulldown “My Blogs” menu up at the top. It gets cluttered, unfortunately, when you have more than a few. You can leave a blog only if you’ve never made a post there. I’ve made one post at Halos Heaven and Gaslamp Ball, and now those blogs are in my My Blogs list forever. I see what you mean, though. I don’t really have a problem with it.

I think nevermoor has it right. It’s a database issue. If someone clicked my name on the one post I made on Halos Heaven way back, SBN would break if I was no longer a member of HH. Fixing it would require an almost complete overhaul of how the inner workings of registration and profiles work. Not gonna happen.

No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.

by danmerqury on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just so I understand

You’re a “Yes” on “Would instead being able to control which blogs are in the "My Blogs" dropdown be sufficient?” Would also being able to hide them in your member page be important (as opposed to nice or unnecessary)?

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much, yeah

If there are issues with fully removing someone from a blog they’ve posted or commented on, even if it’s just once, I would like to be able to choose which ones show up in the dropdown and on the member page.

I don’t see it as trying to hide where you post, if some people are thinking of it that way. For example, I think the only time I posted in Halos Heaven (like a number of us) was after Nick Adenhart’s death when a bunch of people went over to offer condolences. I have no intentions of posting there unless I happen to cover a minor league game one of their teams is a part of and share some photos, so it’d be nice to be able to hide it and reduce the clutter.

The con to that would probably have to do with people who might try to hide a blog then go comment anyway, so I think if people do get the ability to hide a blog it should show again for, say, a month if they go back in and comment on something at any point. If they don’t post again over that time they can hide it again.

Maybe a little complicated, but it’s a thought.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 11, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Makes sense

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With forum software (vbulletin, SMF, phpbb) type stuff

The post still stays. The person’s name is unclickable though, as they are no longer a member of that blog.

This would also be an issue were one to be banned from a blog. What reason would I have to keep, say, Minor League Ball (example) in my list of blogs if I were banned?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's a way to control what blogs are in that section

You need to create exactly ten “my favorite” blogs, those being the ten that you want to appear in the pulldown menu.

I’m technically a member of like 20 SBN blogs, but I keep the 10 I want in my pulldown menu that way.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 14, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.
Aside from AN (which I visit regularly) and LL (which I visit occasionally), I once signed up for Beyond the Box Score, so now it too appears on my list even though I never go there. Is that what you mean?

Yes, that’s what I mean.

I have no reason to be subscribed to Viva el Birdos anymore, so why can’t I remove it from my list of blogs? Plenty of people go to more than just AN, which is what I think Blez intended when the whole SB Nation / Favorite Blog thing was started in the first place.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 11, 2009 8:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is the objection

that it clutters your own use, like by filling up the pulldown menu with a million items? Or that it shows up on your user page, so that when others look you up they think you’re a Cardinals fan? Or both?

Seems to me like both of those are essentially display things, so they could change it so you still remain a “member” in terms of the database but the blog no longer shows up on your list in either place.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 11, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty much how I feel about it, yeah

More than anything else, the dropdown is annoying when there are about ten blogs I’ve posted in and only one of them is where I’d consider myself a regular. I don’t care that there have been 400 fanposts and whatever else since the last time I visited it.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Nov 11, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

This would make SBN run (imperceptibly) faster since it would be fewer DB calls every time you load a page.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This fAnPoSt needs more recs!

Also… I thought there was already a two-per-day limit on fAnPoSts? Did I imagine that, or did it exist once upon a time and then go away?

Prithee, be not perturbed by yon third bagger.

by Poppy on Nov 10, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's in the CGs, but I don't think there's any technological limitation on it

I seem to recall someone repeatedly trolling grover with like 5 of them at a time a year or so ago.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 10, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And again, I apologize to grover.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 10, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I marvel at the idea of finding time to post more than

two FanPosts per day. I find them to be quite a bit of work. Of course, I’m thinking of a FanPost that is well thought out and carefully edited. The ones who break the limit are the same ones who will just throw together a bunch of shit. If every post were well done, I don’t think I’d complain about three in a day. But if every post were well done, no one would find time to do three a day.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 11, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say the ones I do typically take six hours or more

so yeah, the idea of three (or even two) in one day is ridonkulous.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 14, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is good stuff

Thanks, everyone. Most of this stuff has been on our radar for a while, but it’s good to see it discussed again.

Hopefully one of our team will have time to respond in depth. For now: analysis from nevermoor and iglew on priorities and challenges is pretty much dead on.

proud to be creative director for SB Nation

by sixfoot6 on Nov 11, 2009 7:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for posting

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1 on the screen focus issue...

I can’t stand it when the screen scrolls itself, and I’ve never gotten a clear idea on what’s actually happening. It just seems to jump to somewhere random, and I have to go find the comment I was reading again. Super lame.

Stewart: "What really needs to be clear is it wouldn't have mattered if there was an earthquake or not. We were going to beat the Giants.

by Elvez on Nov 11, 2009 3:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just now I was on another thread,

I had written a post and was in the middle of previewing it when a couple of new comments came in and jumped my screen to God-knows-where. It was a long thread and I didn’t know if I was at the end of it or in the middle or what, so it took a while to find my not-yet-posted comment.

But eventually I find it and I start to preview it again, trying to remember what the heck I wrote, when — you guessed it — new comments come in and make the screen jump again.

Really really annoying.

(More constructively: I need to analyze this. Where exactly does the screen go? Do new comments always push you down by the amount? Or up? Or do you stay at the same % position on the page but recalculated for the now expanded page? If someone knows the answer, please save me some effort and enlighten us.)

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 11, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On the last part

Yes. The screen actually stays in the same place, its the thread that gets pushed down. (this is why new comments on things after where you are in the thread don’t have the same jumping effect).

Basically, when something like that happens to you, scroll down a little.

Also, I agree it should be fixed. I don’t, however, know enough about AJAX to know how hard the fix would be. I do know that on a static page finding the height of a given element is generally easy.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect it's a fairly difficult fix

You have to take into account, not only the the number of new comments, but also account for how long each of these posts are which requires more than just a length calculation, but also take into account the indentation, whether those comments occurred (like you mentioned) above or below. I’d be shocked if it couldn’t be done, but it’s likely a pretty nasty calculation.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 11, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Modern browsers do that for you (mostly)

But like I said, it depends on how that works with dynamically loaded content. I suspect if it was simple it would have already been implemented since it’s certainly jarring.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I wasn’t even aware that I always need to scroll down. I’ll try that from now on. I thought maybe it jumped to wherever the new comments are.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 11, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The other option is C then SHIFT-C

if you’re using keyboard shortcuts to navigate.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's my usual reaction, but

I’ve found it doesn’t always put me where I want. Not sure why. Seems like it ought to always work.

Possibly I’m doing X before I’m done reading in anticipation? Also, it’s no help when I’m previewing a reply, though again I suppose I could avoid that by taking care that I’ve left the highlight on the comment I’m replying to.

Maybe this is solvable if I just learn to refine my C-X-Z habits. I’ll try to pay more attention from now on and see what I can learn. Still, it would be nicer if the damn screen would just hold still.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 11, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe if we put on cartoons, it won't squirm.

It works for my 16 month old when we want to cut his nails.

by LoneStranger on Nov 12, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I laughed at this.

Because it’s true. I put on cartoons when I cut my nails.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely agree with that last part.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 12, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you click Reply to a thread, or Preview for a new comment,

and then click Cancel, there is a gap of whitespace where the box used to be.

I think this is new with the UI update.

by LoneStranger on Nov 12, 2009 9:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's not doing it for me

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 12, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nor for me.

One small glitch I did notice. When I reply to a comment, the comment I replied to has one blank line of white space below it. Not a big deal, and doesn’t really hurt anything, but probably not intended behavior. When the page is refreshed the blank lines go away and all is normal.

I noticed that at work, on IE. Not sure if the same thing happens on Safari. I’ll find out when I post this comment.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(Nope, not doing it here.)

I’ll double check again at work later today.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, it's a brower-specific thing.

It does it on IE 6.0, but not FF 3.0.15 or IE 8.0.

Carry on.

by LoneStranger on Nov 12, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm on IE 7 here at work.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(and yes, it's still doing it.)

It doesn’t show during preview, but the blank line is added after I post. (And then goes away if I refresh the page.)

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Replies

Highlight the comment you are replying to in green, or also in the reply box have text that said “In reply to: (AN handle)”
This could potentially prevent reply fails.

Also, AN mobile site auto-refresh for comments. Yes, yes?

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Nov 12, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

iglew,

I just opened this for the first time. You’re such a geek!

I think I may like you more now.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 14, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, yes and no.

It’s definitely my personality type to be attentive to detail and to want to investigate, categorize, and document things. And it comes naturally to me to think in terms of data structures and algorithms, so computer code doesn’t faze me.

On the other hand, I’m not a technophile at all. I dislike any sort of fussing around with my computer in terms of adding features, changing preferences, or upgrading — not to mention trying to debug/fix it when it doesn’t work, which I hate. I’m not at all fond of electronic gadgets either. Geeks love their geek-toys, but I’m always on the trailing edge of technology. I have a pay-as-you-go cell phone, which I bought on sale for $15 at a drug store, but I only use it when traveling. For the past few months, I’ve been thinking about getting a DVD player so I can watch movies on my (unflat-screen) TV, but I never seem to get around to it.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 14, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a good English major.

I don’t own a cell phone.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 14, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You and nico should go live in a cave together.

"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT

There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"

by designatedforassignment on Nov 14, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I'll bet you watch DVDs on a big-screen TV.

Ha ha, I win.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 14, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He just stares at posters.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 14, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I posted something the other day,

and LB just stared at me. It was creepy.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 14, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff, iglew

I agree with just about everything you said, most emphatically with respect to comments not automatically being marked as read. I’d really like that addressed, even if it’s on the difficult side technically. It materially affects how I use AN – I often just have brief bits of time to pop in here, and many many times I’ve refrained from clicking on a fanpost that’s already accumulated a lot of comments because I know I won’t have time to get through them at once and the next time I drop by I won’t be able to tell what I’ve read and what I haven’t.

by Faust on Nov 14, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

sweet, sweet Faustus.

Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 14, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, one other feature request I almost forgot:

I want text formatting in my profile text. Whether html tags or auto-format, I don’t care. My profile text has wanted strikeout since forever, and there’s no way to do it. That sucks.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 14, 2009 6:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

More on (or moron) subject lines

I’d like to put links in the subject lines, in case I have something really short (yeah, TWSS) to post.

Hey Al, just go away, baby.

by doctorK on Nov 14, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I'd like to be able to choose an aroma to go with my subject line

Lavender, Cinnamon, Morning Blossom, Sandalwood, that kind of thing.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 14, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have occasionally wanted to do italics in subject lines.

But I just cut the subject shorter and move my italic to the main post. (Or even enter a filler character as the subject line and star on the main post.) I imagine I’d do the same for a link.

But it linking/formatting were possible in subject lines, sure, that would be cool.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 15, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Data point re screen focus.

This morning I was in the front-page thread, reading unread comments while new ones were coming one, so I tried to pay attention. Several times it did what nevermoor described: as the full screen grew larger, my position relative to where I was went up a little, so I need to scroll down a little. But one time it definitely moved my screen to far away: I was reading near the bottom, and it jumped to where new comments had entered near the top.

Perhaps the former is what happens when primary-level comments are added to the bottom, but the latter happens when the new entries are replies to existing comments?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 15, 2009 11:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

They're purging the blogs of all color.

And I don’t like it.

This comment box is now a lovely shade of boring gray. I need my A’s colors, dammit!

No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.

by danmerqury on Nov 15, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They've also replaced the front-page writers with robots,

and while you usually can’t tell a difference sometimes there’s a glitch and aq1df23JD$$@d d19f3dk
FEEMA FRR FEEMA FRR!!$&$520

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 15, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm holding Ctrl and Alt on the Nico 3000,

can someone grab the Del key? Thanks.

No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.

by danmerqury on Nov 15, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Force quit?

You bastards will have to fire me!

SID##)@JJD213i8 PHLURKLz

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 15, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not touching him there.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 15, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For the record, "Ctrl" is my left one and "Alt" is my right one

It’s pretty obvious what “Delete” is.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m still not touching you there.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 15, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Might I recommend a nice pair of lead-lined gloves?

Protection.

No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.

by danmerqury on Nov 15, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not called "lead blogger" for nothing

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 15, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I could be controlling a robotic arm

from the other side of the unknown universe, still not going to touch it.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Nov 15, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually prefer the gray for the comment edit box

(but not for the blockquote).

More important, if this is a first step on the way toward making the individual blogs have control over their own color, that’s definitely a good thing.

It makes sense on AN that blockquotes and recommended posts are green, while unread posts are gold. It’s a little disconcerting when the same green and gold is used on Lookout Landing. Each blog should tailor its color scheme to the team, just they already do with the main display colors.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you give the locals control what will the overlords spend their day on?

"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT

There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"

by designatedforassignment on Nov 17, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs


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