The (un)Official bit... uh.. Feedback thread for the layout change
I'm already seeing a bunch of posts about it in various other threads, so I figured I could try and help get all the bitching feedback contained to one place.
Maybe this will even help the powers that be.
So far -
- Too much white
- Not enough contrast between the backgrounds of the fANpost section and the "empty" sections on the left and right sides of the blog. By not enough, I mean they're identical in color and the fANpost and fANshot seem to disappear.
- Headlines are too big
- The AN logo is too small and just sorta looks like it's tossed in there somewhere there was space
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Thanks mikev
I put this screen cap in the DLD:

It looks like someone else is reading these things, because this problem seems to have been fixed.
I still hate it.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was a Firefox Adblock conflict.
I opened the “Open Blockable Items” and turned off each filter individually until I found the frame that controlled that part.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So far it's compatible with Adblock plus (which is better anyway)
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spacious....
Lots of extra space….I can’t remember what the old setup did, but it didn’t look like it had nearly as much extra space….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 8:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can describe the new AN as
roomy
by sirbed on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the designers thought we were complaining everytime we said "roomy"
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NO!!!!!!!!!!!
(shakes fist at sky)
(somehow blames Angels third baseman)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I only recently discovered that
“Chone” is not actually his first name. It’s his middle name. Actually, not even that. It’s a shortened version of his middle name. His full name is Desmond DeChone Figgins. That makes the spelling of “Chone” marginally less perverse, since it sort of suggests a French theme with the “de”.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Still perverse.
Don’t mess with my delusions. Find some other hobby.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like tennis, or philately.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have i told you philately that I love you?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What have you phidone for me philately?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, go lick a stamp!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was the year that was!
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 3, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
White space makes me horny
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Link fail
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Nov 3, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but with Monkeyball, it always leaves one wondering...
was it INTENTIONAL link fail?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More about the AN logo up top:
They increased the size of the logo on the main AN page, but it’s the same smaller old size on the article pages. Unfortunately, instead of a new, bigger logo, they just blew up the old ones. The end result: it’s blurry and sticks out like a sore thumb.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't really like it either
I am sure after a few weeks we will all be used to it again.
I agree the amount of white, especially in the fanpost, and the contrasts of the backgrounds makes it look messy
Not sure if it is just me but reading through all the comments made before the change the spaces between the paragraphs seems to have disappeared which is a little annoying.
by DeJay on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Loading times seem to have increased too.
and it seems directly related to loading the ads.
Sad panda is sad.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think there are more ads too
and I keep getting that stupid Bank of America one telling me to get a Yankees credit card. Frickin’ Yankees….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
plus
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apple Apple Apple!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Badger Badger Badger!
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My ex-girlfriend's name is Badger.
She’s got an amazing five octave range and knows hundreds of old celtic and persian folk songs by heart. She doesn’t always know what the words mean, but she can really knock’em dead.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By "five-octave range"
I suspect you mean a range spanning four octaves.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ,but it goes to 11.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
D Minor really is the saddest of all keys, isnt it?
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
by winchester5 on Nov 4, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Even then, that's huge.
I’ve got a span of two octaves without falsetto, and that’s pushing it.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, four is huge.
You can have a very fine career with just two and a half.
I come from the opera world, where a large range is actually useful (though the size is less important than how smoothly modulated it is), but it’s only in the pop world where boasting about the size of one’s range is a fetish.
Having a four-octave range is like having a 15-inch penis. It sounds impressive, but it’s well beyond the limit of where size is an actual advantage. Even Mariah Carey, with her squeaky whistle tones and husky belt, used less than three and a half octaves in her entire career.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's nice to know you have it there...
even though you don’t always use it.
Captain Beefheart had a seven octave range, but so often he just growled in monotone.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Captain Beefheart did not have a seven-octave range.
I don’t know where you heard that, but it’s patently absurd.
An entire symphony orchestra, from the top note of the piccolo to the bottom note of the contrabassoon, has a seven-octave range.
If anyone claims to have a seven-octave range, he’s either lying, is ignorant and doesn’t know how to count, or he’s engaging in Tim Storms style silliness where they put a microphone to his neck while he rattles his vocal flaps enough to generate some pulses which they then measure and call it a frequency, even though it’s not actually, you know, audible.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 1:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a big part of the Captain Beefheart legend...
I can’t vouch for its’ truth.
Is it rare for someone to be able to sing in tune in a very high falsetto and a very low bass? That’s one thing I’ll vouch for the good Captain for, ’cause he could sure do that, even though he mostly growled.
Is it rare for someone to be able to sing along with every note on a piano, from bottom to top? I’ve seen that too many times for it to seem like a rarity to me…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Every note on a piano?
That’s insane. To the point of near impossibility. A piano has 7+ octaves, and even if you can painfully squeak out the highest notes, there’s no way you could hit the lowest ones. A bass voice in a choir typically reaches down to E2, but a piano goes a full octave and a half below that, to A1.
I’m thinking you’re hearing the lowest notes transposed up an octave or two.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 4, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These are separate questions
Is it rare for someone to be able to sing in tune in a very high falsetto and a very low bass?
Somewhat rare. As Dan observes above, E2 (ie, the 2nd E on a piano keyboard, counting from the bottom up) is a good approximation of the lowest note for a low bass. If a guy is exceptionally low perhaps he can growl a C2 (ie, the low string on a cello).
The G on top of a treble staff (ie, G5) is a very high note for a man to sing in falsetto. If we again suppose your guy is exceptional perhaps he can sing C6 (ie, the “high C” of an operatic soprano). From C2 to C6 is four octaves (often mislabeled as “five octaves” because it includes five different C’s). That is a very large range and pretty rare, but not completely unheard of. I’m being generous on your “very high” and “very low”. I think it’s more likely he’s something like D2 to A6, which is still unusual but rather less rare.
Is it rare for someone to be able to sing along with every note on a piano, from bottom to top? I’ve seen that too many times for it to seem like a rarity to me…
That’s not just rare, it’s completely unheard of. Even the charlatans who claim absurd ranges based on non-standard noises made from their larynxes like throat whistling or vocal fry do not pretend to “sing along” with every note of the piano.
If you think you’ve heard this, you probably are hearing a voice sing the same notes in different octaves with a different timbre and your ear isn’t sophisticated enough to recognize that the pitches aren’t the same.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you know what...
I’m talking about a 275 lb choir trained female here….
and another large framed big lunged operatically trained female…
but I’m still wrong…
We had band practice tonight, and we challenged Badger again, and we all agreed that the lowest two were the same octave, but she can still hit her high C most of the time (although can’t hold it for long)…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, the highest ones were all pretty much squeaky and unsustainable,
but if we were recording music for a horror film, they’d be good enough!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how I survived on the internet before adblock.
It really is a wondrous thing.
by whiteshoes40 on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
now if only they'd come out with cricket block...
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh hai

I iz in yur kitchin natural predatoring yur cricketz.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cricket blocker!
Now with stealth mode!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, I miss crickets...
battered and fried, with some SriRacha sauce on top… yum!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're making WS40 cringe, you know.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, buddy, if I don't do it,
I know you’re gonna!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is true.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
crick block = cooler weather.
Haven’t seen crickets for weeks now, and we’ve been having lovely early-fall-ish weather. So there.
by whiteshoes40 on Nov 3, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(I knew that already, you know)
though I’ve seen a few “Palmetto” bugs lately (aka huge ass cockroaches), which is definitively FAR out of their normal appearance.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
are those the flying ones? because I've seen a couple of those too.
Not in my apartment, thankfully.
by whiteshoes40 on Nov 3, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These don't fly.
Texas has super bugs. Florida just has big ones.
Speaking of, I have exciting news for all of you. My days in exile may very soon come to a close. I had “the talk” with my brother tonight and things for LB in Florida may be winding down….
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You finally told your brother about the birds and the bees?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Woo hoo!
Once you take care of the east-west part, be sure to take a trip up north and we’ll go to the divey bar with pinball machines and scary clowns.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
...
they prolly have that in Seattle, don’t they?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep telling you,
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can do that at my home computer, but not the work one.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it hauls on Safari, so far
Have yet to test it on IE7 at work
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it feels faster to me too
using firefox 3.5 on ubuntu
by colin on Nov 3, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
colin, I have no idea what ubuntu is.
Is this something I should investigate and pursue?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a version of Linux.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MikeV, I have no idea what Linux is.
Is this something i should investigate and pursue?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not particularly.
It’s an operating system, but if you’re happy with Windows or MacOS just keep on keepin on.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's an open source operating system.
Like Windows, or Mac, but free, open source, and honestly, just as good.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
free's better than not free, right?
Less virus thingies, too, no?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure. On both counts.
The only problem is that it’s far more difficult to work with. On the surface level, the Ubuntu guys have made it smooth and user-friendly, but it’s a Linux distribution, so it’s hard to find programs for it.
Without a special emulator (wine, or something else), you can’t run Windows programs on it.
That being said, there’s almost no viruses for it, because the virus makers would rather write a virus that runs on Windows. More potential targets.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Been using Ubuntu for a year now,
really the only thing windows can do that I can’t do on Ubuntu (which consistently pisses me off) is:
1) Use ESPN360
2) Use NetFlix (have not been able to get Ubuntu’s silverlight working)
Both of these can be solved in a virtual environment, but the streams run painfully slow.
All-in-all though, I’d recommend Ubuntu if you are on a budget for in terms of “daily computing” it works just fine.
by Pucking Insane on Nov 4, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One other thing
By far the biggest pain for a new user will be configuring new hardware. Whether it is setting up your wireless card to mounting your printer drivers to mounting to installing a web-cam. That truly is a royal pain in the ass.
by Pucking Insane on Nov 4, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also a Ubuntu user.
Sometimes there’s a lag between when a new audio/video codec is available for windows and when a linux clone is developed, but this is rarely an issue in terms of listening to music or viewing video online. I’ve also found Silverlight the slowest to catch up, but Moonlight is being continuously developed and I’d be surprised if it doesn’t have ESPN360 figured out a few months from now.
I actually find Ubuntu more user friendly than windows, even though I have almost no knowledge of how to use the linux terminal. Using a package manager is more convenient than searching cnet for new software (and then finding out that the software costs money/isn’t in English/doesn’t work), and for most stuff I want to do there are multiple applications available. Programs like OpenOffice, Rhythmbox, VLC media player, and firefox all compare pretty favorably to their windows/mac counterparts.
My computer is faster than it ever was on Windows, and it hardly ever crashes. Hardware intensive audio/video editing programs work better for me on Ubuntu – I don’t have problems with cut-outs and latency. I have a few problems with hardware compatibility, mainly concering MIDI and S-video, but generally I can get deeper into projects before I get pissed off that my computer is misbehaving.
"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs
by Aufheben on Nov 4, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's weird
From what I’ve seen and experienced personally, the load time are much faster which was part of the reason for refreshing the layout.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love you and I love your site,
but your judgment might not be the most unbiased on this subject.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also
have experienced a faster load time. I’m happy about that.
by el generico on Nov 3, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love you and I love your fine selection of quality food items at quantifiably cheaper prices,
but your opinion really does not meet FDA standards.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Happily,
my opinion is just a supplement, over which the FDA does not have regulatory authority. My opinions have not been scientifically tested and should be discussed with your doctor before use.
by el generico on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as your opinions make me see through time,
then sign me up for a blotter, doc!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was in tx with a guy who took a
tablespoon of liquid acid and tripped for six days. He thought he was Jesus for a couple years.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, does that mean
there were a couple of years when he believed he was Jesus, or he believed there were a couple of years when he was Jesus?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not in this world to live up your expectations.
Neither are you here to live up to mine.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, you're in a pissy mood today.
If you were my wife, I would bring you chocolate.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but then he'd be pissed because you're expecting to get laid.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you bring chocolate expecting to get laid,
you’re doing it wrong.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not if it's laced.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
gp
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like lace.
But you already know that.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's satin for me...
…that and midgets…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you're among friends.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of getting laid...
So I ask this guy out for a very specific event…and after he asks the particulars (when? where? what time? dress code? etc) He asks me if he will get laid. WTF?!?! Is this what dating is like now? Is there an expectation? And since when do you come right out and ask it? And if I say no, is it a deal breaker? Help me AN, you’re my only hope!
This ranks right up there with the porn issue…which I still need to dispose of!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
kind of refreshing, actually.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess there's something to be said for being upfront about it, but sheesh.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He sort of blew it...
He should have phrased it
“Do you want to get laid afterwards?”
or
“Should I bring the lube, or is this more of a casual affair?”
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or even
“Can I tie you up on the first date or is that strictly a third date and beyond thing?”
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
back in my Bay Area days...
if I wasn’t going to get tied up and/or paid on the first date, I didn’t even bother.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
were we roommates?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
probably competitors...
I usually lived with lesbians.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not that there's anything wrong with that
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ME TOO!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then, maybe you were my roommate...
You don’t have a Peruvian accent, do you, ’cause if you do, that was totally you!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you do it right, you don't need that stuff.
nature takes care of it for you.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're so cute
that you don’t know these things.
#1. When a guy goes out with you, he is hoping to get laid. This is always true, whether he says so or not. Well, maybe not 100% always. Not if he’s gay. Or not if he’s some weird situation like he’s still in love with his estranged wife and only attempting to date just for practice but not really feeling it (um, not that I’d know anything about that), but 99.5% of the time, yeah, he wants to get laid.
#2. That means that once you make it clear that he’s not going to get laid — and once the message gets through his thick head, which it might not if you aren’t really blunt about it — there is a very good chance he will completely lose interest. If you were hoping to go out with lots of boys without sleeping with any of them, or at least stringing them along, that’s a bummer for you, but sorry that’s how it goes.
#3. If the guy comes right out and asks if he’s going to get laid … no that’s not normal, and yes that does mean he’s a complete idiot. Mostly he’s an idiot because by doing so he has greatly decreased his chance of getting laid.
My advice: Do you want to get romantically involved with this guy, or are you just looking for a fun companion for the event? If the latter, ask one of your girlfriends, or find a gay guy and become his hag.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: #3
I could not agree more. Right away the instinct is to say no, and now he has to decide if he still wants to go knowing that he’s not going to get any! Whereas if he didn’t ask, and perhaps he played his cards right, there might at least be a chance that he might get laid. This way=no chance. Moron.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I already said sorry.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to help enlighten him for the future,
the proper response would have been to burst out laughing and say, “Well, there was a chance, but not any more!”
It’s a little bit unkind, but he needs to get the message. And if you can do it with a smile that would soften it a bit.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is precisely the kind of thinking
that might lead a bitter person to straight-up ask, the key phrase being, “if he played his cards right.”
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what, LB... you're right.
Straight men are pigs.
My advice to women in the dating pool is to find a sweet, intelligent gay man to be your best friend. You can even get married and buy a house together if you want. Within a year or two, all the other married couples will be having as little sex as you are, so it will all even out.
And when John and Jane Doe are busy fighting, you’ll be busy dancing or going to Burning Man, or something that fun freaky loving couples do…
If you’re the jealous type, you each can keep your lust-driven conquests of random males on the side and to yourselves, but better yet, if y’all are comfortable in your own skins, you can share bisexual toyboys.
Did I solve the problems of the young women of America or what?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No, you solved the problems of
bitter single women in their mid-30s.
The solution for the problems of the young women of America is for them to fool around with their girlfriends, which has the advantage of relieving them of any need for a regular boyfriend while at the same time making all the boys they meet at parties drool over them that much more.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you think
that cutting out all the mistakes of the 20’s
and proceeding straight on to the bitter 30’s
is a whole lot easier?
Less fun, maybe, but I don’t know… Much of my 20’s sucked serious ass, and my 30’s so far have been super righteous!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Girls mature faster.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and as for the drooling boys...
either stop watching porn, or get serious with your porn.
Train yourself to be into fetishes you never would have dreamed up on your own.
I’d get into more depth, purely on a scholarly level, of course, but I’m very proud of the fact that even though I’m AN’s resident deviant (Non-Florida division), I’ve never gotten a CGV.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the strange thing is, neither have I.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One day, you and I should get really disgusting,
and spend about four of those puppies on one kick-ass uberthread!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You wouldn't get flagged by me
I might just join in and we can make it six if you two get the ball rolling.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:(
:(
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I only think I love him.
I KNOW I love you!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MikeV needs to be loved.
I’m sure that after reading all this gibberish, there are some straight males out there who feel sad, because they don’t want to be pigs, but they don’t want to be gay, either.
Hope is not lost for you. There is a way.
First, you need to go out in drag a whole bunch of times, and be leered at and hit on by creeps and fondled and spat upon. Then, you need to volunteer at a senior’s center and get the residents who had long happy marriages to spill the beans about how it worked and tell lots of cute stories. (You don’t necessarily have to do this part in drag, but hell, it couldn’t hurt.)
After all this, you need to go to a lot of art galleries, keeping your radar up for cute ex-lesbians whom experimented with women when they found out that they hate men, but went back to men because they found out they hate women even more. You should have your pick of the litter.
If this doesn’t work, I don’t know what to tell you… try a different dandruff shampoo, maybe?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
are those instructions for me, or ZF?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
instructions for straight males
who don’t have a highly developed feminine side.
And mostly a joke…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I followed them exactly.
I don’t feel any different.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna not joke for a minute...
For a straight relationship to work, the guy’s gotta be able to think somewhat like the woman, and the woman’s gotta be able to think somewhat like the guy.
Otherwise, it’s nothing but sex, fighting, and cognitive dissonance.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Funny thing is, most of the time it’s really just a matter of communication. More specifically not just listening, but actually understanding what you’re hearing and being as direct about it you’re able. And if it ever becomes about competition you both lose.
But in a nutshell, you’re absolutely right.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok. Know any guys that can think like a woman?
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a woman in heat, sure
:)
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
normally those that were raised primarily by women do a pretty good job of it.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and no.
It depends on the women. A lot of female-dominated households have a lot of residual antipathy toward men, and that can really mess up a guy’s masculinity.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or, if he's prone to being masculine anyway,
it can provide a nice counter balance.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Nothing nice about that recipe.
And not so much “counter balance” as “extreme guilt and self-loathing”.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm.
then perhaps I should return to counseling?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't want that.
You really really don’t want that.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Better yet, makes friends with a bunch of married/divorced women in their 50/60s who have a wild side. Trust me, you sit around and listen, you’ll learn a lot about what not to do. Granted, it hasn’t actually helped me. But I certainly learned a lot.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This... +100000
there are some straight males out there who feel sad, because they don’t want to be pigs, but they don’t want to be gay, either.
I don’t have it in me to be an asshole, so I’m stuck with nice guy.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sure you do. We can work on it!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried to find it
It confuses me sometimes that I was raised by women but I can’t come close to figuring them out.
I’m not saying I want to become a complete jerk, but yeah, as ZF said, a happy medium is nice.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere in the middle is perfect!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh holy crap twss
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense
There’s plenty of room to be a real man who is neither an asshole nor a pussy.
I’m not sure what annoys me more, the misogynistic jerks who think because they don’t want to be wimps they have to be macho assholes, or the whiny pathetic guys who think because they don’t want to be jerks they have to be dorky dweebs.
Don’t be a guy, Lloyd. Be a man. The world is full of guys.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying if I'm not A, I'm B and only B
It’s just that I can’t find how to strike that balance. I’ve got time, though.
Soooooooo, to bring this back to the thread… I hate how comments like this are now lined up.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JOE LIES!
when he cries….
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you guys done with this crap yet?
None of it matters if she says one thing and means another.
“Oh why oh why do I always find the bad guys?”
’Cause you look for them.
“He treats me so well, but there is no adventure in him.”
You want adventure? Fine, I’ll be on top tonight.
“I won’t settle!”
Well, hell we all do that.
Take it from a guy who can both be sweet and an asshole, who can provide mega-security and still be spontaneous, who can make love to you or have insanse sex with you, who basically is as in the middle as a guy can be…until women stop trying to find Mr. Perfect, Mr. Near-Perfect will continue to sit on the sidelines.
Not that I am bitter.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2009 7:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You haven't had your coffee yet, have you?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have some coffee please!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 4, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
coffee's good.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Done.
And it was yummy, I might add.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bacon's always yummy.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My sweetie calls me "Bacon"
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As well they should.
Bacon may be the single greatest food substance known to man.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why GS
loves Little Orphan Annie so much.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop fucking whining.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 4, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You should ask people to stop
doing one thing at a time.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
#1
I do know this.
#2-This bums me out.
Re your advice: I hear you. I guess I should have asked one of my gay girlfriends and avoided the hassle. But I was looking for a male date.
And #3 is still cracking me up because it is so true!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is such a thing as
“Yes, of course I want to have sex with you, but I still like hanging out and snuggling up with you even if I’m not going to get any nookie.” You need to find one of those.
(Of course, once you do find one. You’re probably going to want to jump his bones anyway.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or he'll be gay.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thus returning full circle to my previous comment...
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
okay, if straight forward is,
you be too. Tell him that.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The sounds like me
But only because I have really shitty luck so I have lower expectations of “playing my cards right” so I walk into everything lower expectations in general. And trust me, it doesn’t improved the “you’re probably going to want to jump his bones” odds. It improves your “you’re going to wind up having a straight gay friend” who you’ll have no interest in jumping his bones odds.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That depends.
Sometimes we want to jump your bones and we eventually will. Other times we do wind up just being friends.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been my experience that they really just wind up
wanting to be friends. But then in fairness, I actually know I’m doing it wrong.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The friend-zone sucks.
Unless it includes a benefit package. Then, who cares?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there's less jewelry to buy in that scenario.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
#1 is true
- is sometimes true. I personally have more respect for a lady that makes me wait a little. Now, differing ideas of how long that waiting period should be… that’s a different story.
As for #3, you and every other woman out there deserves a man who knows how to finesse a little. Any moron who does what he did should be immediately kicked to the curb on principle alone.
by Joey C. on Nov 3, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
...aaaand autoformatting strikes again.
Seriously, how fucking unlikely is it that people are going to start paragraphs with pound signs? On a sports blog, full of numbered lists?
Instead of working on some quasi-relevant visual wish list, how about fixing this problem (oh, excuse me, “getting rid of this feature”) which keeps screwing up posts for no evident actual savings of time?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to step in and offer the usual...
… “why didn’t you hit preview joey c. lolz”
But I agree with you, PT.
For the record, it was “#2 is sometimes true.” Which may or may not be obvious from the context.
by Joey C. on Nov 3, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you employ the "up" button twice,
you’ll see that I started three paragraphs with the pound sign and had no trouble.
Joey’s first paragraph was auto-formatted because he began it with a numeral followed by a period, not a pound sign.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you keep explaining the exact mechanics?
- I couldn’t care less if you paid me to.
- Even in the unrealistic scenario where I were to decide to waste the brain cells and time required to actually learn this garbage, I can 100% guarantee you that other people would not do so, and the number of autoformatting caused-errors I would be subjected to would not decline in any appreciable fashion.
- And yes, all of these paragraphs started with the pound sign.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 4, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But look how it cleverly assumes you have three #1 points
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 4, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!
Paul’s #1!
- 1! Do you hear me?!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is better than having
two #1 starters and a #3 starter. Wait, wrong discussion.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually glad you picked up on that
I was thinking the same thing.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 4, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because they are of interest to me
And for those few who do want to understand it better they may be helpful.
As for your point #1, I was not aware of the autoformatting of a paragraph followed by # and space. I learned a new one. Thank you for providing enough information that I could duplicate it and conduct experiments.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: #2 (1.)
Exactly, so why is he asking to get laid on the first date? Show a little patience and he’s more likely to get what he wants.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree,
the headline font looks funny if its not bold and centered
by Future Ed on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd appreciate if you didn't bring up our arrangement here.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, i thought you were in another thread. One of the 67M ones..
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I see how it is :(

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that supposed to be Pac-Man on Quaaludes?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So what if it is?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My only issue is that you're giving drugs to that round mound,
but none for your old buddy G_S_, the foreign talent…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Quite possibly, but not by me"?
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Nov 3, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
niiiiiiiiiiice
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the guy who took us to the beach at 2am???
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear god...NO!
But boy! He sure doesn’t get the hint!
BTW-Still trying to get rid of all the sand! ;-)
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm... not even sure what to say.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe the guy kept blankets and towels in the back of the car
I mean, who keeps emergency supplies around, just in case you wanna bring some people to the beach at 2 in the morning?!?!!?!?!
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha...prob the same type of guy that gives you porn or asks if he's going to get laid on a first date.
Yea, I attract some real winners. ;-)
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ahem.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 4, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love you in a very special way.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 4, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight.
On a very special AN…
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Get out of my head!
That’s what I was thinking!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 4, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As for me, I was thinking it was more of an
After School Special
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep blankets and towels in my car.
That’s just being prepared. Not just for midnight beach visits, but all sorts of contingencies.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you live near the coast in CA.
keeping a blanket in the trunk makes sense.
I kept a blanket in my car for when the (ex)wife wanted to go to the beach spontaneously. But she loved the beach.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 7:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry--all the white space on the background
kicked in the acid flashbacks and I went all Peter Tosh on you.
He may have been Jesus for two years, but the thoughto f him as a messiah is not a good one.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I were Jesus for two years,
I’d probably cool it on that whole Messiah thing.
That, and the robes. I’d have to go sweatpants all the way.
I’d also tell people my name was pronounced Hey-Zeus.
As for the water to wine thing… that one’s a keeper!
Stigmata are fun at parties too!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure I love you.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever, loser.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
see, there it is with the Good Don, Evil Don thing again...
It’s okay to let that out here, amongst friends,
but out there, in your real life, ya gotta ixnay on the ultiple-me ersonalities-pe.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
especially at job interviews....and dates.
And don’t EVER ask Zigfan if you’re gonna get any. Apparently, it’s a trick question and the answer will always be no, unless you don’t ask it. Then it’s a nebulous maybe, if you follow the invisible, theoretical path to nookie-town.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a button somewhere on Zigfan's body
Now don’t try to touch it, but if you happen to touch by accident or without her knowing you were trying to find it by luck, you’ll get some. Otherwise, you’re better off just enjoying the evening and cough handling cough yourself later.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So shameless stalking is a no-no?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you trying to get laid?
If not, stalk away.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, eventually.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Then get permission to shamelessly stalk first
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are a smart man. I like you.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely love you.
And I can’t stop laughing at this. So true.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're a good -looking girl.
Find a fatter guy who treats you really, really good and make him worship you.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
I met a guy this weekend who referred to himself as fat. I responded, “Well, maybe I like fat guys.” :-)
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good girl.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fat guy checking in.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
back atcha, baby
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See, the thing about a fat guy,
is that he’s slow enough for you to catch him,
but big enough to intimidate and neutralize any threats.
Besides, skinny people have too high of metabolisms, which makes them nervous and twitchy and finish too quickly. If you get a fat guy started, though, hang on for the ride.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yup.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 7:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I was at a reading for a screenplay a few years back and my character was supposed to exclaim “Jesus” so I chose to pronounce it Hey-Zeus. Let’s just say, every time after that, everyone decided to do the same thing. Still funny though.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that. Artistically stylish...
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like Jeebus with Homer
I wish it were an artistic choice, but i was just trying to impress a friend’s circle who I was helping out for the day by being a doof. Turned out it work on both counts… sort of.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my dissenting opinion
I think it looks fine, and really the changes are pretty minor.
One note is that I read AN on a 9" netbook screen, so things probably look a bit different for me than for those of you with big luxurious monitors. Also, adblock is a necessity.
by colin on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
This wasn’t intended to be a major revamp, but a minor one. This isn’t really a new version of our layout, just a refinement to try and speed up loading times and just give it a more current look. Things get dated on the Web so quickly.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As per the usual in these sort of situations
I just don’t understand what the point is, at all.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2009 8:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well it matters alot when you are trying to gain readership.
As well as distinguish yourself from other blogs. This is a business now for Blez and he needs to take everything into account and stay ahead of the game.
by throttle mathius on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Faster load time is a good thing...
even on my Apple, it’s been taking 15 seconds to load the main page.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Change is good
Signed 6 month old babies around the world who use AN
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate change!!!
Actually, I just don’t like the font of the headlines all that much.
But frankly, it’s not going to effect my use at all, so what does it matter?
Nothing.
by bobnothing on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
And another thing...
The A’s still finished last. Damn you, AN.
Oh, and why oh why is 67M still here?
Basically, I’m with you, bob.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you are here because you post pretty pictures
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
so shut up and get to posting.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey hey hey...
Good Don is here to post pictures.
Evil Don is here to drop a deuce in your microwave when you step out back for a smoke.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Good Don doesn't post pictures of Evil Don's activities.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Who the hell is Don?
Whoever it is, I can’t stand him.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the spirit, ol' chap!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rec.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm here because I don't have a job, and AN is better than wasting my money buying German Tshirts with my name on
by bobnothing on Nov 3, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
where do they sell German shirts with your name on them?
…cause I kinda want one.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The font is one thing I don't like either
I’m trying to get that changed. I actually love the font on sbnation.com a lot. I’m hoping we can use that here as well.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah - I'm assuming you're not done with the changes, right?
Just out of professional interest, how much leeway do you allow the lead bloggers in customizing the individual portals? In terms of balancing customizing for a team, while retaining a corporate identity?
by bobnothing on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We have similar layouts for all of our blogs
the customization comes in with the widgets and whatnot. But we’re really aiming for optimized performance. We want to get these pages loaded up quickly.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Nov 3, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I think it does that
at least, for me it’s faster. Consistency and speed are both good things… unfortunately, they seem to have come with some really strange side effects…
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Call your doctor. An erection shouldn't last this long.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So he's the guy with the side by side bathtubs in his backyard!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dislike the left justification of headlines.
I prefer center justification on headlines.
Am I being too anal?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nope.
Not at all.
New AN looks like a term paper.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
centered is awesome
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, headlines need to be centered
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Nov 3, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right on, soul brother/sister
oh wait, I’m on AN, not Lookout Landing…
I mean +1.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's something I thought of as well.
The SBNation font would be great for the headlines on the blogs.
As for the left justification, I don’t mind either way.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NEEDS MORE GREEN.
especially on the sides of the page, the gray blends with the white.
by VV A's fan on Nov 3, 2009 9:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
plus ça même chose
I’m pretty sure I hate change more than most people here, but really this is trivial. The only significant differences are that the headlines are no longer bold and the background is a lighter shade of gray. Sure, it looks jarring now — and it bugs me, too — but we’ll all be used to it within a week.
I’m disappointed they didn’t use the opportunity to change some things that actually needed fixing. In particular, the main text font. (Why oh why oh why do people think that Helvetica is acceptable as a text font on screen?)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think you're looking for
“plus c’est la même chose” the second part of “Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose”
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 3, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Iglew French fail :-(
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Although the cedille and the circumflex were impressive
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get a "whoop whoop" for Times Roman"?
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True story:
I couldn’t remember if there was a circumflex on “même” but I was in a hurry and didn’t want to look it up. So I tried to come up with the etymology. I couldn’t think of any Latin root, but I thought of “mismo” in Spanish. Circumflexes in French almost always indicate a dropped consonant (usually “s”) so hey presto, there’s the answer.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As I was reading that comment
I thought of exactly the same trick with mismo! I definitely remember learning that the circumflex replaces a dropped “s”.
Also, it would have to have either a circumflex or an accent grave, so you could type it both ways and see which looks more familiar.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Nov 3, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a few words where it's a different consonant
that’s dropped. Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of is âme, which drops an L from alma. I think there were others, though.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh, another
The name Benoît drops a C from the name Benedict.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Nov 3, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
now THAT'S a masterful TWSS.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
{stares blankly}
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S the reaction we're looking for.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the two sides are coalescing.
The thorazine must be kicking in.
(Disclaimer- drugs are bad.)
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
suresure: bad.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 7:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
your Helvetica-hating ways are most illogical, Captain.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
most intriguing

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 3, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Run, kitty!
Spock eats cats!!!!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's okay, LB...
it’s just a Tribble in a Halloween costume.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And that's the trouble with tribbles
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they dress in too-good Halloween costumes and are inadvertently eaten by Mr. Spock?
Your logic is quite flawed, Captain.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I don't hate Helvetica.
I love Helvetica! I just hate things used in ways they weren’t meant to be used. Helvetica used properly is a thing of beauty.
Like here

or here

Just not for long lines of text on a screen.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm experiencing deja vu....
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for your feedback
What font do you think we should be using?
proud to be creative director for SB Nation
by sixfoot6 on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wingdings!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, comic sans
you can NEVER have enough comic sans
Day seized!
by JLaff on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever it is, make it
BOLD
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
tiny and bold?
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't even start with that.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is it bad that I see a mention for "bold" and I instantly think of tiny and bold?
I blame AN really…
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is it bad that I see a mention for "tiny and bold" and I instantly think of physically harming things?
I blame AN really…
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you know, I'd expect something different from
someone way out west.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Quick draw and a bullet?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's bold, less tiny.
…unless it’s a derringer.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's so awesome to know
that my absence has not changed you one bit.
And I mean that.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rawr!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I like Verdana, but
I don’t think it should be up to me to specify either. Here’s what I don’t get: On your CSS it says:
font-family:Arial,Helvetica,FreeSans,sans-serif;
For the uninitiated, that means it will first try Arial*, then if it can’t find Arial it will try Helvetica, then if it can’t find Helvetica it will try FreeSans, and then if it can’t find FreeSans it will use whatever the local browser has set as the default sans-serif font.
But what is the default sans-serif font on most browsers? Arial or Helvetica!
There is nothing useful to be gained by making a list of fonts which begins with Arial/Helvetica and ends with sans-serif. What is the difference between your list of four and simply saying “sans-serif” alone? The 90% of users who have Arial/Helvetica as their default will get it regardless. And the few users who don’t have Arial/Helvetica at all (if such a user even exists) will get their default regardless. The only people affected by your list are the ones who have deliberately changed their sans-serif default to something other than Arial/Helvetica, and your list expressly subverts their intention. So all you have accomplished is to deny the preference of those users who have expressed a preference, while doing nothing for those who have not.
So my short answer is I think you should just say “sans-serif” in your style sheet and not specify a typeface at all.
(I’m not locked into sans serif either. If you’re truly doing a whole redesign and if that ends up switching to serif, I’d have no problem with that. But again, I’d recommend leaving it to the browser’s default.)
If for some reason you feel you absolutely must lock in a specific typestyle — in order to exert control over your look or whatever (I think that is contrary to the true philosophy of HTML, but I also understand that the Web is no longer the ideal world it was envisioned as) — then I recommend you choose a typeface that was explicitly designed for ease of reading text on a screen. For example, any of the three in Microsoft’s 1996 release (Georgia, Verdana, Trebuchet), or the six from Microsoft’s 2007 release (Calibri, Cambria, Corbel, Candara, Constantia, Consolas).
* (We’ve been discussing Helvetica here, but in fact most of us are seeing Arial. The two typefaces are very similar but not identical. Arial was designed in imitation of Helvetica, and the only difference likely to be spotted by a non-type-geek is the right leg of the capital R. I tend to use the two names interchangeably, which isn’t quite accurate.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Arial.
Then again, I am partial to red-head mermaids.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Arial <> Ariel
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(I like Veranda too)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's my porn name...
Arial Veranda….
actually, I’m kidding… it’s Sindy Zorina, which is much much better.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OMIGOD
I know her!!!!!!
-Cindi
P.S. What’s a “font”? I’ve always wanted to ask, but I didn’t want people to think I was dumb.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure I'll/we'll all get used to it eventually.
For now it’s just weird, and kinda makes me wonder, why?, but I don’t think it’s problematic.
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
by travdog6 on Nov 3, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Kinda like someone came in while you were asleep and rearranged the furniture.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do apologize
I can’t believe I thought the couch would look good facing east.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love to rearrange the furniture!
Doesn’t everyone?
I guess I don’t hate all change.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE rearranging the furniture.
Yes.
And if you’re going to stay here in my head, I’m going to have to start charging you rent.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You tell 'em!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Helen Keller probably didn't appreciate it
They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!
by muffinpryde on Nov 4, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She certainly never said thank you.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
incidentally
I still have no idea how to REMOVE a blog from my “favorite blogs”
Actually, strike that. You can remove it (there’s a “leave blog?” link) as long as you’ve never posted a comment there.
Once you post a comment, you can’t remove it any longer.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 10:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
No offense to the D-Backs blog, but my posting there in support of Doug Davis was kind of a one-time deal.
by Joey C. on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine there are some Adenhart well-wishers with the same problem.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
[Raises hand]
Although I have to admit it kind of warms my heart to know that, as of this moment, I have happily missed 1,005 stories, 648 fanposts, and 655 fanshots worth of stupid over at HH since I posted my condolences.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's all?
(laughs at HH weak attempts at fan blogging)
(um, what’s our totals?)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know our totals
When you sign up on an SBN blog it gets added to that drop-down at the top-right of the screen, next to the “control panel” link. It shows you how many items you’ve missed on each site since the last time you logged onto the one in question.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Nov 3, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's also getting kinda annoying that every time I load any sbnation page
it pauses while waiting for ad.doubleclick.net or quantserve.com
Yay commercialization.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yay!
Capitalism’s good!
Yay!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Jeeze -- I just came home for lunch and looked at the site in Google Chrome
with no ad blocker.
I didn’t realize that gigantic ass green block on the VERY TOP OF THE BLOG was for an ad.
lol. nice. And it’s a Red Sox credit card ad.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!
That would combine two of my favorite things: over-extending ourselves financially through blatant consumerism and the Red Sox!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
though I do wish Wells Fargo would offer an A's debit card
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 3, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would actually make a pretty good logo for some UFC fighter's trunks.
But only if UFC does irony.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
....
Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don’t get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony’s not really a, a high priority. We haven’t had any irony here since about, uh, ’83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THE TRUE HISTORY OF AN
1981-1994 LB runs crazy A’s-oriented BBS on CompuServe from his VIC-20. Nobody ever calls, but LB responds to his own snarky comments with further snarky comments and keeps himself entertained.
1995-2003 LB runs crazy A’s-oriented Yahoo Group. Nobody ever logs on, but LB responds to his own snarky comments with further snarky comments and keeps himself entertained.
January 2004 Tyler Bleszinski’s plane goes down over Sarasota, FLA and lands in a field. LB hears the roar of the engines and drives his 1977 Chevy Van Customization (The Third Base-Mobile) out to the field and gathers up as many victims as he can to take home to create an army of zombies.
February 2004 The army of zombies idea pretty much fails, so LB goes to the library and gets a book on KGB brainwashing techniques of the 1950’s, and buys a couple of tubes of Ibogaine off of Ebay, and brainwashes his last remaining plane crash victim, an unassuming young man into numismatic grading, collecting potato chips that look like Pope John Paul II, and listening to his collection of bootleg Air Supply live albums, and turns him into not only an A’s fan, but… THE BLOGFATHER!
The rest is history, right?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I may have to stop posting here for a while.
This may be the bestest thing I’ve ever read.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
jerk
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm.
That’s pretty good too…
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
smiley face
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
snark
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
question mark exclamation point
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ampersand asterisk klammeraffe exclamation point
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do spider monkeys eat crickets?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we could get one and place it in WS's kitchen and see.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
interrobang
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is that like sex and an interrogation at the same time?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus the name of a U2 album.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish U2 would put out an album called
“Oral Diarrhea”
because then they would finally be in compliance with the Truth In Advertising act.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like you more now.
Thirty years of music. I’ve liked maybe three songs?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 7:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All this talk of Helvetica
brought me back to type-geek land.
The interrobang is a holy icon among type geeks.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
interrobang‽‽‽‽‽‽
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Nov 3, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Gaijin for explaining Bloomy's origin story
I guess in the sequel he can fight his nemsis ( a certain porn stached he who shall not be named)
by sirbed on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'll name the SOB...
just you wait!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The white background is hurting my eyes
although that is just a personal problem.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Nov 3, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lots of white, particularly on the big monitor...
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't really tell too much of a difference.
Wade Hines
by Wader on Nov 3, 2009 11:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Blez, clockwerks, et alius
I love what you do for the site and for SB Nation, but this seems just a little unnecessary. I’d echo others’ concerns regarding white space (it’s very… bright) and the font changes.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
...and we finished last again this year.
Can you do something about that?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And what's the deal with airline food?
Day seized!
by JLaff on Nov 3, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hug changes promised
I have been sitting here waiting for hug changes. Where are my hugs? It’s so cold in here.
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
a lone Indian on the side of the road sheds a tear,
even though nobody littered.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll hug you.
You made me laugh hard yesterday or the day before. i don’t even remember what it was, but I feel warm and fuzzy toward you.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was the day before...remember?
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here

Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
when logging in...
the pop up box seems to go away by clicking on it, but not in the text input box.
ok, maybe a picture would better describe this one…. but that’s not for me (I’m still adjusting to my new 9600 baud modem here, give me some slack!).
Also, the Main Font Size could be reduced just 1 notch (from 36 pt to 34 point or so).
Aside from that, it looks nice and clean. I like it!
by rollierollieOxenfree on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Blez, I would like to offer my viewpoints:
I think the new layout is just fine and to answer the critics I would suggest using some of my explanations below….
- Too much white: This was a real issue in the ’60’s and through the efforts of segregation most of America is now comfortably integrated.
- Not enough contrast between the backgrounds of the fANpost section and the “empty” sections on the left and right sides of the blog. By not enough, I mean they’re identical in color and the fANpost and fANshot seem to disappear.
If you set your screen at approximately a 62 degree angle, slam a 6 pack of Coors, close your eyes and spin around really fast about 20 times and repeat three times “Blez is God” the contrast between the backgrounds really isn’t that bad.
- Headlines are too big The 2010 Oakland Athletics are bound to keep headlines small, so you should not have to worry about them being too big. For example, a headline that would be too big would be “A’s trade Wuertz for Texeria”. We can look forward to smaller headlines such as “A’s announce Brett Anderson will be a starter in 2010.”
- The AN logo is too small and just sorta looks like it’s tossed in there somewhere there was space Space is the final frontier and as such, the AN logo is free to make it’s own decision as to where it wants to be since it is not restrained by the constraints of the space/time continuum
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I laughed.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I spit out my soda
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Out of syrup? Tasted like pure soda water?
I hate htat.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You people really need to maintain your machines better.
Plus, the nozzles need to be removed and washed EVERY NIGHT, not once a week.
And make sure to bleach your drain hole. Busy machines only need a couple of weeks worth of syrup cholesterol on the drain line before they plug up and you have a puddle in front of the machine, tailor-made for some lawsuit-happy fat fibromyalgic fast-food addict to slip in and sue your ass, if you haven’t already given her the opportunity to spill coffee in her own lap, first.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know
Whatever parts of my body I choose to bleach really shouldn’t be of any concern to you.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FDA guidelines say to bleach after every gerbil.
Declawed, or not.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Bleach after every OTHER gerbil"
It’s not a saying, it’s a mantra for life.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this remind me of Alton Brown
when he says cook something to 130, and then his alter fascist food cop ego says that the government says you should cook it to 145.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Space may be the final frontier,
but that doesn’t answer the question: WTF IS OUR FIVE YEAR MISSION?! TELL ME!!!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To tepidly go where other websites only dream of going
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That, and to make develop some power hitters and a third baseman
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Nov 3, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So this is where all the computer nerds have gathered today.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What, you thought they'd be reading one of YOUR posts?
Dream on.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(Steps into left half of Don's mind)
Oh yeah, well who are you to talk?
(steps back into right half of Don’s mind)
Yeah, well f**k off, hoser!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the headlines?
The title’s plain white and SMALL, the story headlines aren’t even centered any more. The search box text is way too big compared to the sizes of the other text, so are SBN recent stories. It seems like some fonts are em and some are px… not good to mix the two.
And wasn’t the other layout wider? It seems like the 3 columns are much more squished together now, much less padding between the columns. It’s fixed-width, rather than percentage based, which is super annoying for large monitors who want to be able to make things wider (even in the wide mode).
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like all text-align:centers are gone
Headlines, authors, comment totals…. all left-aligned now…
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, it's like a style sheet got left out somewhere along the way.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I’m really surprised this look managed to actually go live without somebody pointing out all these REALLY OBVIOUS missing and incorrect elements…
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Compare to the SBN home page.
The gray on the outsides are darker, and actually have a texture (as opposed to simply being a solid color). It’s a huge difference.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The search box is also normal sized there
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm confused.
You’ve pointed out a bunch of ways in which it is different, but offered little in the way of explanation of why it’s worse.
I mean, it’s not “REALLY OBVIOUS” to me that centered headlines are acceptable and flush-left headlines are not. Or that having a large search box is an aesthetic faux pas.
What exactly is “incorrect” about these things, other than being different from how it used to be?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's true, they're not necessary "wrong"
But they are SO different and so off-putting that it really seems strange that they’d purposefully be this way. Accumulating a pile of links and a row of information – like the comments+twitter+facebook, like the author line with icon – it just makes aesthetic sense to be centered.The story titles aren’t even bold any more, but they are on the SBN homepage, and the search box is a more normal size. Like mikev said, it really does seem like some styles just got left out.
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, those tiles don't match the grout,
and the granite countertops are VERY radioactive, and probably have to be replaced, too.
And what were they thinking with the backsplash? It’s like they watched one of those HGTV shows and actually BELIEVED one of those overprivileged fools!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, do you really think
a blog title is supposed to be that tiny and innocuous in such a tall box?
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And yes, I know, there's an ad there
(Thank goodness for adblock) But even accounting for that why would the title be so small?
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
site is decimated in Chrome
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/443/newan.jpg
Now I will go gather my other feedback…
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Nov 3, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow. It didn't look that bad for me with Chrome.
Using wide format.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seems that the js isn't loading in Chrome
Safari spits it out nice, and the font rendering actually makes the headlines significantly bearable.
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not just the JS though
The screenshot showed you’re missing all of the grey box backgrounds in the sidebar…
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, very minor issue, comparatively
But the search box doesn’t align with the button…
http://web11.twitpic.com/img/40603689-cda0f87948381a1058dc6218f6c895c5.4af0ae9a-scaled.png
Things ’Skins has in common with foulpole for 400, please. -- soco
by snakecharmer on Nov 3, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm still trying to figure out the permissions for noscript (firefox extension)
My “facebook share” icon is overlapping the recs on the homepage for all sbnation sites.
by rightbackin on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fixed.
If you want more security and ad blocking you all should definitely check out noscript for firefox. Background scripting in web pages can be VERY dangerous as it can run things without you knowing. Noscript also allows you to see what is actually loading in web pages as well. Not for beginners, but worth the piece of mind in my opinion.
by rightbackin on Nov 3, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to avoid alienating pieces of my mind in exchange for software, personally
I tend to miss them after they’re gone.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here here!
We need to make these n00bs tow the line when it comes to proper spelling in homonymous idioms. He should of known better.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Should of cared less, is what he should of did
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Nov 3, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
newbie
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 5, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rightbackin has bene a member for a long time, no?
by jeffro on Nov 6, 2009 8:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I confess that I was not striving for accuracy
in that particular post.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 6, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha I hate when I see it on others
I didn’t even bother reread that or why it came out that way. “…peace of mind….” Sorry.
by rightbackin on Nov 3, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing.
A comment consisting of only a subject line looks like this.

The gap between the subject line and the signature is far too small, to the point that the signature is closer to the subject line than the poster’s name.
Also, the developers have been sticking around all day, answering questions and offering explanations. Thanks, guys.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 3:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I noticed that today too.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, still there.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't be too hard to add padding above the sigline
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Minor league ball no longer pops up on my blog list....
oh well.
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
by travdog6 on Nov 3, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Aaaaaaaand nevermind.
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
by travdog6 on Nov 3, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no opinion
“Tell my wife I said… hello.”
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by Joey C. on Nov 3, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sparkly, shiny!
I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King
by lynnzgal on Nov 3, 2009 6:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and wait till you see what I can do with it!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A good thing I've noticed is the comment boxes are fixed...
…when the threads scale off to the right a lot. That’s a pretty big problem that needed to be taken care of.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They fixed that weeks ago, though.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I hadn't tried replying to something that had been that far to the right for a while
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always knew you were a centrist...
then again, this leaves open the possibility that you’re a leftist…
(checks under bed for communists)
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some notes
I think the designers wanted to achieve an online magazine type of feel and I dig the clean and crisp layout but I feel that the site looses some of its warmth especially in the comments area. It must be that expanse of white bg.
Wide-mode is awesome… I’m pretty sure it had already existed but I never got around to using it until I read a couple of mentions about it. Speaking of wide though, the CBS sports ad is not quite a nice use of space. Perhaps you can try the 2 × 8 square ads format seen on a lot of blogs these days.
Was there a reason to show the “Browse more Photos” popup in the photos at the top now? I find it somewhat disruptive because I’m usually reading the caption below and then something across the canyon is vying for attention.
The white on gold text in the menu and box headers are not easy to read. And I also agree that the post titles are lacking something. For one, it’s using the browser’s default font color so if I changed it to dark red, it starts to look like HH :/ The comment messages are also using the browser default. I would also suggest putting Helvetica in front of the font stack (I’m on OSX too).
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another thing:
The titles of articles aren’t separated from the beginning of the text at all. The spaces between the title, author line, and first line of text are alarmingly similar. Perhaps even something as minor as a small gray line would suffice.
I have a feeling this is something that’s contributing to that “term paper” effect.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 11:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Strange.
I was thinking that this change might bring 74mk back.
{pouts}
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2009 7:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
he's long gone, no?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So let me just recap and make sure I understand the community's consensus feedback
on the updated layout of AN:
1. It’s stupid for a guy to ask, directly, on a first date, “Am I going to get laid?”
2. Doug Davis isn’t a good enough pitcher to warrant having a Diamondbacks blog show up among your favorites until the sun burns out in about 4.5 billion years.
3. AN v0.0, started by Leopold Bloom in 1974 as a forum to reply to himself, was the only good version of AN we’ve ever had.
Got it. Thanks, everybody!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
take that back to your corporate overlords, you sellout hack!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(and, BTW, it was 1984 and the only reason no one replied is because no one called my BBS)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I take exception to being paraphrased, sir
Expecially when my wrods are so carfully chnosen.
by Joey C. on Nov 4, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(searches google images for a mashup photo
of Alex Rodriguez and George W. Bush)
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I assume you meant Wandy Rodriguez.
What other wrods are there?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So, it looks like this thing is firewall-approved for work
Unfortunately, it is also about 3x slower on IE7. Boo.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2009 8:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
getfirefox.com
unless of course your work pc is chained and the IT department is pro-IE
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Nov 4, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
such evil exists?!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, Sir LB
Gird thyself and together we shall smite it, by my troth!
I’m free pretty much all day tomorrow.
by Joey C. on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yup and they're coming to baseball
which is why I always cheer for Cust to strickout because if he hits a HR, my PC BSODs
I also hear that the Redmond Windows are gonna buy a championship too
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Nov 4, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say my "IT department" is "pro-IE".
There’s only eight people in the office. So the “IT department” is just the boss, and occasionally his son. You load up Windows and that’s what you get. It’s not that anyone loves IE, it’s just easier not to mess with it.
I’m sure as hell not going to install anything, that’s for sure.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
If there are 8 people, why are they gonna bitch if you install Firefox (or better yet, Chrome?)
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 4, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d still recommend them to at least put in a second browser for backup.
But yeah, I find IE7’s javascript a bit funny at times. One time in the IE developer toolbar I had the JS setting set to the middle! It’s supposed to be a Yes and No thing… but it showed a Dash instead, JS was off and I couldn’t set it anymore.
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Nov 4, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are they going to bitch if *I* install it?
Well, it’s not my computer so it’s not really my business to be messing with it, any more than it would be for me to paint the walls or fix the toilet.
But more to the point, I don’t think anyone would “bitch” so much as be completely baffled.
I don’t want to install anything. I hate futzing with computers, and I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I don’t even like installing stuff on my own computer, and I hate it when I have to upgrade anything.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's part of the beauty of Firefox....it kind of upgrades itself.....
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Nov 4, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Run linux
its like a million and a half times better. True story.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Nov 5, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a story?
I wonder which section it would be found in a bookstore. Romance? Non-fiction?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 6, 2009 7:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Say
I wonder if there are any updates to the mobile site in the works? Or maybe an SBN iPhone app? Either would be awesome.
(looks around for Nico)
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2009 3:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
or a SBN Android app
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 4, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're looking around for ME?
I understood about 5 words in your comment and one of them was “the.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
{blanks starely}
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(Buck stately)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 5, 2009 6:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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