Who should the a's go after in free agent? (2009-2010)Part 2 for people who dnt understand
Who should the a's go after in free agent? (2009-2010)Part 2 for people who dnt understand
Ok so i posted this earlier today and was made fun of because of spelling. I did it in ten minutes. So i got 2 bring out my college skills so slow people can understand. Here we go are you on track so far. For the 2009-2010 offseason the oakland a's have some contracts that are up and opens up spots on the 25 man roster. Those names are Bobby Crosby,Nomar Garciapara,Jack Cust,Brett Tomko and Adam Kennedy. You still with me. K good. Im looking forward to my favorite team to be good and exciting. So i think we can pick up an couple of free agents to make us strong. We have open spots at Shortstop 3rd base 1st base and DH and maybe left.I know oakland a low budget team but we have alot of money 2 play with with all these young guys. So i think we should pick up Hank Blalock two play 1st base. he can also play 3rd and DH, and if Carl Crawford decline his option we should go after him. We try too trade for him a few years back. Rajai Davis and Carl Crawford would be a great one two puch at the top of the line up. Davis stole 41 base in 126 games and crawford stole 60. Kurt Suzuki who gets better every at bat to drive them in and Hank Blalock on deck. Scott Harrison batting 5th, Ryan sweeney batting sixth, Mark Ellis batting 7th , Erick Chavez batting eight and Cliff Pennington batting in the nine whoel. What do you guys think? The bull pen will be strong, with the closer Andrew Bailey, Mike Wuertz, Brad Z, Joey Devine,Brad kilby, Craig Breslow and Josh Outman. The starting rotation would be ace Brett Anderson, Justin Duchscherer, Dallas Braden, Trevor Cahill, Gio Gonzalez. What do you think?
1.Raja Davis (R)
CF(29)
2.Carl Craford (L)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG SB |
| .305 | 15 | 68 | .364 | .452 60 |
LF(28)
3.Kurt suzuki (R)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG |
| .274 | 15 | 88 | .313 | .421 |
C (26)
4.Hank Blalock (L)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG |
| .234 | 25 | 66 | .277 | .459 |
1B (28)
5.Scott Harrison (R)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG |
| .265 | 17 | 64 | .307 | .456 |
LF (29)
6.Ryan sweeney (L)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG |
| .293 | 6 | 53 | .348 | .407 |
RF (24)
7.Mark Ellis (R)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG |
| .263 | 10 | 61 | .305 | .403 |
2B (32)
8,.Erick chavez or wallace (L)
3B (31)
9.Cliff Pennington (S)
| 2009 STATS | ||||
| BA | HR | RBI | OBP | SLG |
| .279 | 4 | 21 | .342 | .418 |
SS (25)
Pitching staff
Starters
Brett Anderson(L) 21
Justin Duchscherer (R) 31
Dallas Braden (L) 26
Trevor Cahill (R) 21
Gio Gonzalez (L) 24
Bullpen
Andrew Bailey(R) 24
Joey Devine(R) 25
Michael Wuertz (R) 30
Brad Ziegler (R) 30
Craig Breslow(R) 29
Brad Kilby(L) 26
Josh Outman(L) 25
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I really hope I don't come across as mean
But thank you, I needed this post.
P.S……. why would we sign Blalock just to stand on deck? (confused)
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Nov 3, 2009 1:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
OPEN SPACES????
Sorry Buddy, but Billy and Bob have made clear they have other plans……..
1. SS = Pennington for at least a season or two until Green or Ladendorf are ready. He earned that chance with solid play after the Cabrera trade.
2. 1B = Barton. It is likely Barton will then shuttle between 1B and DH once Carter gets called up after a half season in AAA or in Sept.
3. DH = Cust will likely receive arbitration for one more season, but with Carter, Wallace, and Cardenas likely getting the callup at some point next year, Cust will finish the season as a PH off the bench and likely be let go after the season. Bottom line, Carter and Barton will split 1B and DH time once he gets called up leaving no room for Cust as a starter.
4. 3B = ??? This is the only position in the air at the start of the season, but Wallace will be the man, whenever he arrives from AAA. Billy will give Chavy all the opportunity to start the season at 3B, but when he likely injures himself again, a replacement like Mora, or even Kennedy would be a sufficient and cheap holdover until Wallace is ready. Also, if Wallace makes the team out of ST, a healthy Chavy could push out Cust from the DH spot. Not likely Chavy can remain healthy, but still something to think about.
5. Duke?? You assume the Duke will be back with the A’s. Dont get me wrong, I would love to see that, but given his depression issues, and tension over possible bullpen duty once Outman is ready to return, I doubt this will happen. Instead, I see Tomko coming back on a two year deal with the second year being a player and team option. He pitched great in the friendly confines of the Colosseum.
Outside of a Tomko like veteran starter on the cheap, or a Mora type veteran holdover at 3B, I expect Billy to remain out of the FA market. With the failure of last years gambles, Billy will stick too the rebuild.
Let the Kids play Billy!! No More Rent-a-Vet in Oakland!!
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Nov 3, 2009 1:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hate Billy and Bob
Bob Geren needs to go hes brings nothing to are ball club
by Tambo45 on Nov 3, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure you shouldn't call anyone slow
when you write as poorly as this.
by sirbed on Nov 3, 2009 7:16 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
In fairness, slow people might struggle with
“dnt” for a while because even Vanna White doesn’t sell apostrophes.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 3, 2009 7:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vanna White
I wonder has anyone made more money for doing as little as Vanna has? Hmm maybe Carl Pavano.
by sirbed on Nov 3, 2009 7:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Geren ?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Nov 3, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ALOL, sirbed.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 in using my acronym!
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Nov 3, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vanna White is 52 years old and looks positively radiant
That’s a worthy accomplishment that shouldn’t trivialized.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's Scott Harrison?
I hope he’s a Roy Hobbs type player.
Chris Carter is the next Hank Aaron right?
by streetisclosedin08 on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
A couple of things
Carl Crawford’s option will not be declined. He may be traded but the rays will not give him up since a few clubs want him. Blalock would be a back up plan for DH. Chavez at third is wishfull thinking. The A’s may go for a 1 year 3b late in free agency and a starting pitcher. This may be the toughest off season to figure out what Beane may do. I have a feeling thetre may be a surprise trade coming.
by Arcman on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if I should be annoyed by this thread or not
Since I think I was the last one to comment last night about the grammar and spelling getting in the way of the argument, and I suggested he take a couple extra minutes to proof it so we could understand it….does that mean I’m “slow”? Because really, there’s a simple way to just repost the thread with the spelling and grammar fixed, no need to call us all slow.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What do I think?
I think, for a post that you have plenty of time to look at, review, and correct, you show that you don’t give a damn about whether or not people take you seriously.
So, I’ll ignore this and likely ignore the rest of your posting here. U R NT SNDING A 170 CHRCTR TXT MSG IZ OK 2 USE WHOLE WORDS N COMMAS N SHIT DOOD :LOL:
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 8:31 AM PST reply actions 20 recs
I will say though, that I bet the f'n farm...
that within a generation or three, fully written language will die!
I am as serious as a tornado hanging over your head.
Someday, in the dictionary, there will not be the words laugh, out, or loud, but there will be a f’n page on LOL.
Someday, the slang of text messages will be PROPER ENGLISH!
mrk my wrds.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
srsly :(
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"2b r not 2b? i can haz suicide? lolcat."
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know it's probably old, but have you seen "average Cats" yet?
Allow me.




They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, it's not funny at all.
Not that you’re wrong… it’s totally funny,
it’s just not funny.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well it really depends
when your completely bored it can make you laugh… Which i happen to be right at this moment.
by Twan54321 on Nov 3, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They wouldn't be funny if LOLcats didn't exist.
They are only funny as a parody of LOLcats.
Reading them literally, without the reference, they are not funny at all.
I was trying to make a dualistic joke about this without having to explain it. And the reason I’m explaining it is because you’re a pretty bright strapping young lad, and haven’t watched as much bad British humor on as wide an array of dangerous hallucinatory substances as I have.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have, tho.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 3, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, sweetie,
but you’re not a teenaged Asian-American left-brained twin…
at least not without a lot of prosthetics and soft focus lenses…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 4, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not?
(I think I may have overshot the mark…)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dnt get it
I'm the genius who said Chris Carter will slug .650 his rookie season.
by JamesCaprio on Nov 3, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's safe to say that...
Dblockhot21 is really the one who doesn’t understand.
On a positive note, his first foray into the literary world of AN has been highly entertaining.
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
And that's the most important thing really.
Plus he’s HOT and 21. Doesn’t that count for anything anymore?
by Mark H on Nov 3, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
turn those digits around...
this post was obviously written by a 12 year old.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a fellow 21 year old
I can say, A, that this fanpost is definitely within the realm of possibility for someone at 21, and B, that I apologize for all of us. Sincerely.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're one of the good ones...
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I can't believe you're only 21.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who grades papers written by 18 year olds, can you apologize for them?
And yes, this fanpost is definitely within the realm of possibility for a college student. Scary.
You are wise beyond your years danmerqury. I never would’ve guessed you were 21. Thank you for being one of the good ones.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point..
Whether its High School or College papers you are grading, some people either dont pay attention or are just plain not smart, just the plain and simple facts. I am truly sorry you have to read some of those papers.
All i need to do is look at my twin brothers Homework and look at the mistakes, pretty sad really.
I always knew English class would mean something!!!
by Twan54321 on Nov 3, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet your twin brother is a right-brainer...
spends his time drawing, or playing sports, or video games…
am I right?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well he plays alllllot of video games, but I play too.
He writes crazy short stories that he wants to turn in to books and does draw allot. He justvseema to lazy to try seriously.
I’m more of the sports guy I play or have played water polo, baseball, basketball, football, soccer, cross country, track and field, and swim team. Way way way too much.
by Twan54321 on Nov 4, 2009 1:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid iPod.
Crazy part is supposed to read he just seems….
by Twan54321 on Nov 4, 2009 1:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hah, thanks guys.
And wow, gigglingone, I don’t envy you about those papers. Every once in a while, I’d come across someone in high school who literally had trouble reading aloud. They’d stutter in places and mispronounce words on the second and third stabs at them. And, of course, the phrasing and structure of sentences went out the window.
Every year I’d assume I was done dealing with that.
No, there's no light,
in the darkest of your furthest reaches.
by danmerqury on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We all need to remember, though...
that some people do have learning disabilities and therefore have a difficult (and near impossible) time reading, writing and spelling.
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Nov 4, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
My best friend in high school was very intelligent but a horrible speller and not much of a writer either. Different brains work in different ways, and being adept with words isn’t the only way to be smart.
That said, stutters notwithstanding, I think reading aloud is an excellent skill to cultivate. I wish schools would do more of that. It’s one good thing I have to say about debate. I’m more a theater person myself, but both are about using the voice to communicate. (If I were a judge I’d award points for good vocal support and artful gestures. I suppose the debate orthodoxy would frown upon that, but fuck ‘em, I’d do it anyway.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I cant spell to save my life
though Ill let you judge my intellegence on your own.
Spelling and intellegence have no causal relationship.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one?
Where every single fricking time I see the word CAUSAL, I read it as CASUAL and I have to reread the sentence to figure it out?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Nov 4, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Spelling and intelligence do have a casual relationship.
They’re friends with benefits.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
those are the best kind of friends or should I say
thooze r the beste kinda frendz
by sirbed on Nov 4, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The causal relationship is that
if you’re smart you’ll use one of the 283 ways you can easily SPELLCHECK what you write before hitting “post.” And even dyslexic blind people who are severely allergic to words seem to know that “dnt” isn’t a word.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Firefox now does the automatic red squiggly underline
So if I misspell something it’s because I’m going waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fast (or using too many letters in “way”)
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Nov 4, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do think there's a significant correlation
between intelligence and spelling ability, but it’s not so universal that there aren’t plenty of exceptions.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say I've met some people who i considered intelligent who couldn't spell at all.
but I’ve not met too many people who could spell that weren’t intelligent.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 5, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting. I've never thought of it that way.
I can’t think of anyone I know who is stupid but is a good speller. But then I’m not sure I’d have noticed.
I can think of a person I once knew who was stupid but had beautiful penmanship.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 5, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it me???
-Cindi
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 5, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After decades of underfunding American public education what do you really expect?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One of the few good political ideas
to come out of the 1980s was the realization that when a program is a dismal failure, the answer is not to sink even more money into it.
(Not sure why they never applied the same logic to the military, though….)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
The reason why it’s a dismal failure probably has something to do with the fact that the pay rates for employees are so utterly out of whack with the skill level required to do the job that only extreme idiots or extreme altruists would ever agree to do the job in the first place.
There are so many useful ways to spend money in schools, it’s not even funny. It’s one of the most beneficial investments that a society could possibly make. I’m sorry if you feel otherwise— you’re just wrong. The empirical evidence from other countries on this point is utterly overwhelming. Skimping on schools is the public policy equivalent of cheaping out on draft-pick signing bonuses— dumb in the short run and incredibly stupid in the long run.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 4, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The system is broken.
The money will not help until the system is fixed. This is a reason to repair the system, not to keep pouring more money into the broken system.
The reason the market incentives are out of whack is because American culture is completely muddle-headed about whom public education is designed to serve. Do we do it for the benefit of the students and their parents, or do we do it for the benefit of society?
On both sides of the political spectrum, the discussion of education is dominated by the idea that it is a service to students, but fundamentally it is structured as if it is a service to society. This leads to contradictions and market failures. People who fancy themselves libertarian argue for school choice and voucher programs because they think it is more "efficient" if parents choose their own schools. But if the goal of education is to serve each parent, what is the libertarian rationale for devoting public funds to it at all? If it is no more than an individual entitlement, which is what a voucher program makes it, then there is none.
Public education is only rational to the extent that it is a public good. If it weren’t, there would be no rationale to asking the 40-something single guy with no kids to contribute funds to a system that does not benefit him. The reason we do ask him is because in fact public education does benefit him just as much as it benefits his neighbors with kids. Or at least that’s the rationale. But when that rationale is lost, so is the effectiveness of the system.
If we want public education to work, we need to stop thinking of it as a service provided to kids and parents and see it as a service provided to that single guy with no kids. Then with every dollar you spend, you’re asking the right question in terms of whether you’re getting real results. Yes, of course, you are absolutely right that education is one of the best investments a society can make, but to invest intelligently you have to have a rational definition of what constitutes success.
That means giving up a lot of cherished ideas. For one, it means suburbanites can give up the satisfaction of knowing that their property tax dollars are going to their schools. Because if you look at it from the point of view of how do we get the most benefit to society out of our education dollar, the answer is not going to be to spend the most money on the kids who are already most privileged. It also means that colleges need to be looked at with the ruthless eye of an efficiency expert with no romantic attachment to campus tradition. And it means accepting that public education is fundamentally coercive. Education benefits society in the same way conscription does. It’s entirely possible that the kid will come out a better person for it, but it’s not about giving him what he wants. America is a profoundly individualist nation and thus has a real problem with that. It’s no coincidence that public education was born in Prussia and when it took root in America it did so in New England.
You talk about pay rates for teachers being out of whack with skill levels, and indeed they are. But it’s not just about skill level. It requires very great skill to stand on a sidewalk motionless as a statue for two hours, too, but that doesn’t mean anyone will pay you to do it. People are paid for worthwhile services because the person receiving the service values it and is willing to pay to get it. Teachers will get paid what they deserve once we as a society figure out who their true clients are and we restructure our system so that those true clients are the ones who select them and pay for them.
Until then, you may as well be hiring Bill Bavasi as your scouting director and then instructing him not to skimp on signing bonuses.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 5, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree that education is a public good
I also completely agree that funding education with local tax dollars is perversely idiotic from an efficiency point of view.
The problem we have here, basically, is that no matter what we do, Bill Bavasi is in charge. We can either give him money to spend on overslot bonuses, or give him money to spend on something else. Waiting around until firing Bill Bavasi becomes a politically plausible option is a bad idea.
And I can’t follow this “education = conscription” analogy. Education has independent benefits to the individual (people who are educated are more productive workers and make more money). Conscription is completely useless to the individual. The reason nations have conscription is to prevent people from free riding on others’ military service. We already have a way of preventing people from free riding on others’ education— it’s called taxes.
In other words, conscription (like taxation) is the means to the end. The end is “having a military,” or to go one step further, “not being conquered and killed by savages.” I suppose one could fund education (or anything, really— pyramid-building, whatever) through conscription too, but that seems rather inefficient.
It’s just a form of tax-in-kind. Education is not a tax— it’s investment in human capital. Forced investment, in the case of public education— but investment nonetheless.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rajai is the biggest 3 month fraud since john mabry
A’s should seriously sell high on this guy this offseason. 29 yr old players dont suddenly figure things out and turn into good players. We know what he is, a very good defense and speed quality backup OF. Useful for stretches, fill in here and there, but not longterm. Think of rajai as a free gift from the giants, he exceeded expectations, now time to cash in. They can move sweeney back to CF and have no shortage of other OF’s ready early next yr or by late 2010 with cunningham, buck, patterson brown, desme, doolittle, carter, etc at the corner spots. Outside of pitching, rajai might be their most marketable trade asset at the moment due to the lack of CF’s out there. Luckily, A’s have 2 of them and might be willing to deal. So Beane I encourage you, do not pass on this opportunity.
by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 3, 2009 8:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rajai may be useful to US
You’re right, a 29 year old player who just recently, frankly, gave us a reason to keep him in the majors is not likely to stay that good. The problem is, that everyone else knows that too and isn’t going give us anything decent for him. And dealing Rajai simply to deal him is a sure way to make us worse in the short-term without improving anything in the long-term.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets see how the market plays out
Here are CF FA’s
Other than Cameron. Some teams might give byrd 4-5mill/yr or take a chance on ankiel. If the return is there, keeping options to trade rajai should be considered.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/2010-mlb-free-a.html
Center fielders
Rick Ankiel (30)
Rocco Baldelli (28)
Marlon Byrd (32) – Type B
Mike Cameron (37) – Type B
Endy Chavez (32)
Coco Crisp (30) – $8MM club option with a $500K buyout
Darin Erstad (36)
Ryan Freel (34)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34) – Type B
Reed Johnson (33)
Andruw Jones (33)
Mark Kotsay (34)
Corey Patterson (30)
Scott Podsednik (34)
DeWayne Wise (32)
by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes, what a list!
I’m starting to think the A’s really could sell high on Raj.
by Mark H on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody's over 30,
except for Baldelli,
and he’ll never again be a full time player.
I hope he stays with the Sox for a long time as their 4th outfielder, because that is the best place for him.
(Paid for by the Committee To Say Nice Things About Rocco Baldelli because he threw me a ball once at the Coliseum.)
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but now list the teams that are in need of a CF.
It’s a short list, and it includes the Oakland Athletics.
This was thoroughly examined in a fanpost by NSJ a while back and the consensus was that there really isn’t much demand for Rajai.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
possible market for a cf
going by somef and discussions and rumors….
cubs-depending on their use of bradley/fukudome, they do have colvin among prospects, johnson/fuld for depth
braves
white sox
reds- if they dont rush stubs or release taveres
brewers
padres
royals-if they decline crispoption, their only immediate help might be fringe prospect mitch maier
by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 3, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Braves and White Sox
They have McLouth and Rios respectively. McLouth may be bad defensively, but it’s not for sure that Rios is. Raj would fit perfectly with the White Sox too. I’d say the Brewers is the most likely destination if he’s traded.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Nov 4, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Kotsay is only 34?
Darin Erstad still plays? Coco Crisp is a tasty cereal?
by sirbed on Nov 3, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Kotsay is 46.
I don’t want to hear otherwise.
(fingers in ears)
La la la la la la la la ….
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NEVER!
Insult John Mabry.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AN should adopt the Community Guidelines from CougCenter
Some pertinent parts:
Whenever you write, make sure you bring something to the table…. When you leave a comment or write a FanPost, it should be done with the goal of enhancing the conversation…. Make sure we don’t feel dumber for having read your comment or post, and don’t waste everyone’s time.
Have some evidence for your assertions. Simply saying this guy or that guy sucks/is awesome is not enlightening, and does not enhance the conversation. Give us a reason why said guy sucks/is awesome. Subjective observations are OK, but objective statistical analysis is better. If you don’t do this, expect to get challenged.
Be coherent. This means using reasonable grammar and spelling, abstaining from chatspeak (“lol,” “ur,” “brb,” etc.), avoiding the use of all caps (unless done for a specific purpose), and refraining from the phrase “in my opinion” (this is a discussion site; we know it’s your opinion, silly!)…. [I]t’s not unreasonable to expect comments to feature complete sentences (with proper capitalization) and FanPosts to utilize these things called paragraphs, which also come in handy on long comments to make them more readable.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 AM PST reply actions 8 recs
I need some statistics
What is his WAR and wOBA? Numbers damnit!
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Nov 3, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually all basically there in the "tips for writing good fanposts" portion of the CGs
It’s in the CGs but not really a potential CGV, If that makes any sense.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
abstaining from chatspeak ("lol," "ur," "brb," etc.),
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LAUGH OUT LOUD
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Nov 3, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ROLL ON THE FLOOR
Forgot to take my Neurontin this morning.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Drugs are bad, Nico.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IN MY OPINION
This was a good post by PaulThomas
by sirbed on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not really "by" me...
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was well cited
though you lose a point for not linking to the original source.
Oh wait, this isn’t a link dump. Okay, no points lost. :)
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I figured it was obvious since it's another SBN site
but the full text is here.
I think the big difference between their approach and here is that they expect people to use reasoned arguments in comments as well as fanposts…
Even if people aren’t actually getting CGVed for making unsupportable claims, it’d at least be nice to have something to point to to say “hey, don’t do that.”
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lookout Landing has a similar page
here.
Summarized in the sidebar as:
No politics, no religion, no chatspeak (e.g. lol, ur, brb, +1), no trolling and no unwarranted hostility. Please capitalize and use comprehensible grammar.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wait, they don't allow +1???
We’re all screwed.
In AN speak, that’s WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 3, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all it means is you have to type
“Right On, Soul Brother/Sister” instead.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 3, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hank Blalock is terrible at baseball
How is he going to help us win games? You dont win games by having a cleanup hitter with a .277 OBP.
by PL78 on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I like that line up
Tampa bay will not get rid of Carl.
by Tambo45 on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Baldelli and Andrew Jones
I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on one of those two guys. Especially Baldelli, as long as his mitochondria hold up.
by StewCrew on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I certainly hope you didn't pay any tuition for those
“college skills”
by cityplANner on Nov 3, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You mean online college aren't as just good???
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 3, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Nico, I have so many bones to pick with you.
Online =/= inferior.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right in general, but
if you’re disputing that “online education =/= classroom education” then you and I just don’t agree on this one.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 7:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It can.
It depends upon the environment and the interaction of the students. And I’m not sure Dewey would disagree.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. John Dewey visits AN. I'm impressed.
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Nov 4, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The party would be more interesting with Freire.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on the situation.
I’m primarily thinking of generic entry-level collegiate courses where (1) there is desperate need for better cost-efficiency, and (2) the classes are so huge with stadium seating and a lecturer somewhere down below lecturing that there’s almost no personal interaction to lose anyway.
There was a good article on this in Washington Monthly recently. I’m sure it’s online.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cost efficiency is not an issue in CA.
But it is here, was in Indiana (and Illinois as well, IIRC) and presumably is in Washington.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't almost all of the actual "teaching" in those classes come from small-group sessions with TAs anyway, though?
I can’t see how that could be replicated online.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 4, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At the university level - there is a lot of the education that can be learned on one's own if one is disciplined
There are many online structures that can support education similar to a small group discussion. AND – One benefit of online education is the possibility of asynchronous instruction – anytime, anyplace. It is however – not for every course or every subject. Used judiciously and using courses that are well designed (a MUST) – it can add to a person’s ability to complete a degree and a university’s abilty to offer education to people who can not always be in the seat in the lecture hall. Nowadays with the webcam – it’s almost like being there!!!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Nov 4, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Serious question:
How much are the TAs paid, and what would prevent them from doing the same thing outside of a university system?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They get paid in "affairs with the female students"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 4, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which brings me back to my second question:
If we get rid of the university, can I get in on this action?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Nov 4, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea
I went to a small liberal arts college specifically to avoid the phenomenon of large lecture classes “taught” by inaccessible professors.
I do know that the UCLA grad students are represented by a local of the United Auto Workers, however…
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 4, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only UCLA
Quite a few graduate students unions are affiliated with the UAW, as the UAW was early in organizing graduate students to unionize. The American Federation of Teachers is the other big national umbrella for grad students, and although the name suggests intuitively that they are better, I’m not sure that’s necessarily the case. A lot of the organizing tactics of the UAW and the AFT don’t quite work with the transitory nature of the grad students. But this is tangential and off-topic of this off-topic subthread.
by el generico on Nov 5, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just thought it was amusing
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on the university
Here, the graduate student instructors (GSIs) that lead discussion sections receive a tuition waiver if they work at least 50% (two sections), and often receive a monthly salary on top of that.
Readers and graders (who don’t lead sections, but do all the grading) are paid hourly with no tuition waiver.
The tuition waiver is a big deal for most students. It’s pointless to still pay tuition here, and then to be getting an hourly salary elsewhere that won’t even come close to covering the tuition expenses.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Nov 5, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My experience at Iowa State during the '80's
My graduate assistance included:
1. Out-of-state tuition waived.
2. 50% of in-state tuition waived.
3. Monthly stipend.
I also did some extra teaching for a few semesters after completing my TA requirements – in these cases, my monthly stipend was increased 50%. It still meant I ate a lot of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and Cup O Noodles.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Nov 5, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does "dnt" mean didn't get or don't get?
you’ll have to edit and repost
by Future Ed on Nov 3, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do not take.
It’s what we’ve labeled the brown acid.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It was funny the first time
Now it’s just stupid. I highly doubt he actually writes like this, it’s simply some troll trying to waste our time and the bad thing is that it’s actually working. I hope that if he writes another post that nobody responds to it.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Nov 3, 2009 5:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lets bring back Scutaro to play 3B
In ALL of baseball last year, there were 3 players who walked at least 15 times more than they struck out: Pujols, Pedroia and Scutaro.
/useless stat of the day
by PL78 on Nov 4, 2009 9:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not really useless
Now all those people that can’t stand strikeouts won’t mind then as much if he has even more walks!!!
by Twan54321 on Nov 4, 2009 1:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I'm not your teacher
If I was, I’d consider myself a failure.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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