Community Prospect List #18.5 - Runoff
by Zonis on Nov 27, 2009 4:00 AM PST
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PrintI was hoping that if I left it long enough, there'd be a clear winner. That was not the case, they were still stuck between 3 votes of each other, so its runoff time again.
Ben Hornbeck, SP, Age 21
| 2009 Stats | G | W-L | ERA | IP | H | BB | K | SV | WHIP | |
| MID (oak) | AA | 1 | 0-1 | 16.20 | 3.1 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2.70 |
| STO (oak) | A+ | 21 | 5-4 | 3.52 | 76.2 | 64 | 32 | 111 | 1 | 1.25 |
James Simmons, SP, Age 22 - Video
| 2009 Stats | G | W-L | ERA | IP | H | BB | K | SV | WHIP | |
| SAC (oak) | AAA | 23 | 7-7 | 5.72 | 119.2 | 139 | 47 | 81 | 0 | 1.55 |
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I voted Hornbeck.
But there isn’t a huge difference
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
is the poll supposed to say
“who is the 18.5 prospect”? shouldn’t it still be 18 or can we have a half of a prospect, like a combo of somebody maybe?
I'll take a combo of Chris Carter and Corey Wimberley
Wait… we have that….Grant Desme.
by redtopcowboy on Nov 27, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Your 2011 starting SS: Grant Desme!
Awesome?
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
Power and speed
would be the combination. Desme can do alot, but playing SS is not one of them. And yes, striking out is one of the things he does.
by redtopcowboy on Nov 27, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Leaks out an awful lot too.
"Chicks dig the long ball, although fat chicks will settle for warning track power" - Nick Diamond
I was being completely sarcastic with the SS comment
but yeah, tis the interwebs, and sarcasm isn’t detected. Mea culpa.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
Pujols/Lincecum combo
Come on, man…
"There are like 900 little wooden posts in the Jenga tower that is Jack Cust. So many to pull, so many ways for the whole debate to devolve into a pile of useless wooden blocks." ~ jeffro
by CaliforniaJag on Nov 27, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
pull a babe ruth?
except i hate lincecum so id prefer a more interesting person like c.c.
plus i dont want the hybrid to get arrested for pot
I wonder...
How well do you think James Simmons would have pitched in Stockton last year?
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by nobodyinparticular on Nov 27, 2009 10:09 AM PST reply actions
I doubt he'd have struck out 112 hitters in 80 innings...
I mean, I get what you’re saying, but I think Hornbeck’s line looks better whether you translate his numbers to AAA or Simmons’s to A+. By minorleaguesplits’ MLE calculator, Hornbeck’s MLE FIP is 4.14 and Simmons’s is 4.97.
By the way, that seems like a rather excellent argument for Hornbeck: his MLE FIP was 4.14 this year. That would make him a #2 starter on an average major league team. I know MLEs aren’t everything and whatnot, but given that he’s already made huge improvements in stuff from when he was drafted, is it that hard to see him being able to replicate that season at a higher level?
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Voted Simmons
I’m gonna cut a 22 year old pitcher who had a poor year at AAA (but still put up a FIP of 3.99) a bit of slack considering his strong performance as a 21 year old in AA and his superior draft pedigree
by DeJay on Nov 27, 2009 10:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
That's how I feel
I’ll give him another year in AAA to get it together before I lose complete faith in him as a prospect.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Nov 27, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Will there be a poll for #19?
Or will you just award spot #19 to whoever places 2nd in this one, and proceed with polling for #20?
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We should have a poll about which one to do
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Poll:
Should we have a poll about whether or not to have a poll about whether or not to award spot #19 to the loser of the runoff?
1. Ja
2. Nein
3. Blank #2
4. Pickles!
"There are like 900 little wooden posts in the Jenga tower that is Jack Cust. So many to pull, so many ways for the whole debate to devolve into a pile of useless wooden blocks." ~ jeffro
by CaliforniaJag on Nov 27, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
And #18 is pickles
#19. The Larch
#20. There is no #20
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
5. ...
6. Profit!
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
I like this this idea
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Nov 27, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
I think Hornbeck’s Kane County stats from last season should also be listed in the original post. Including the Midland stats but not the Kane County stats doesn’t make sense to me, especially since the Midland start was a last-second callup due to that day’s starter being sick.
"There are like 900 little wooden posts in the Jenga tower that is Jack Cust. So many to pull, so many ways for the whole debate to devolve into a pile of useless wooden blocks." ~ jeffro
Yes. It makes absolutly no sense
to include his 2009 stats if you dont include his 2008 stats.
Wait what?
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
Talking about the start of 2009
Hornbeck threw 36.1 innings in Kane County at the beginning of the season and he was pretty dominant with a 4.7 K/BB ratio.
This
"There are like 900 little wooden posts in the Jenga tower that is Jack Cust. So many to pull, so many ways for the whole debate to devolve into a pile of useless wooden blocks." ~ jeffro
by CaliforniaJag on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
I might actually be on the winning side
Of a non-no-brainer for the first time! Go Simmons!
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
He is building up a sizeable lead!
Well they have been neck and neck the whole time so 9 more is quite sizeable in this run off!
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