UPDATE: Denorfia Outrighted; Becomes 6-Year Minor League Free Agent
by athleticsBB4life on Nov 17, 2009 7:12 AM PST
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Print*There has been some discussion as to the status of Chris Denorfia after he was outrighted by the A's last week. According to this LINK at the Game of Baseball.com, Denorfia's name appears on the list of A's players eligible for 6-year minor league free agency.*
Oakland (17)
Pitchers: RHP Daniel Barone, RHP Andrew Brown, RHP Shawn Chacon, RHP Dewon Day, RHP Leonardo Espinal, RHP Angel Garcia, RHP Chris Gissell, LHP Daniel Haigwood, LHP Justin Hampson, RHP Scott Mitchinson, RHP Scott Patterson, RHP Jerome Williams
Catchers: Raul Padron
Infielders: Carlos Arrieche, Frank Martinez
Outfielders: Chris Denorfia, Archie Gilbert
In a move that we all expected, the A's outrighted Chris Denorfia to Sacramento and freed up another spot on the 40-man roster.
OAKLAND, Calif. -- The Oakland A's outrighted outfielder Chris Denorfia to Triple-A Sacramento, the club announced today.Denorfia spent most of the 2009 season at Sacramento where he batted .271 with nine home runs and 49 RBI in 107 games. He also went 0 for 2 with a run scored and RBI during a four-game stint with Oakland from June 9 to 17. Denorfia is a .279 career hitter with three home runs and 19 RBI in 100 games with the A's (2008-09) and Cincinnati (2005-06).
via media.scout.com
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So he can opt for free agency?
Seemed like a fair gamble a couple yrs ago when they traded for him. He was injured at the time, but Reds Minor League player of they yr previously. Jukich and mcbeth didnt end up much for the reds.
Denorfia was out of options so this was expected, Plus the resigning of matt carson a few weeks ago for AAA OF depth.
Yes, he can refuse his assignment to Sacramento and opt for free agent status.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 PM PST reply actions
Wait, why?
Do you have a link for this?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
I thought he was outrighted once before, but I stand corrected. Thought by now he would at least be a six-year minor league free agent.
I guess he’ll be exposed on waivers.
Outright Assignment Definition
player assigned outright to the minor leagues for the first time in his career must accept the assignment. Thereafter, a player has the choice of 1) rejecting the assignment and becoming a free agent immediately, or 2) accepting the assignment and become a free agent at the end of the season if he has not been returned to the 40-man roster.
A player with 3 years of Major League service may refuse an outright assignment and choose to become a free agent immediately or at the end of the season.
A player with 5 years of Major League service who refuses an outright assignment is entitled to the money due according to the terms of his contract.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Nov 10, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, 3 years is what I thought the rule was
and I think he’s only got 2 years and a few days of time accumulated.
The rules for minor league free agency are so confusing and seemingly contradictory to me that I can’t make head or tail of them. I guess we’ll just have to see if he pops up on BA’s MiLB transactions blog.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
According to Cot's....
through the 2008 season, Denorfia’s ML service time was 2.064 yrs. Does being on the 40-man for the entire 2009 season bring his time to 3.064? If so, wouldn’t he have the requisite 3 yrs of ML service and therefore be able to refuse the assignment?
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Nov 12, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
You need to be on the 24-man roster for service time to accrue
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
I wonder that the 25th man is accruing.
by LoneStranger on Nov 12, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
We don't ever use the 25th man.
He just sits there on the bench accruing dust. But he gets paid well so he doesn’t complain.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
The 25th man is day-to-day
but we don’t want to lose him for the full 15 days, so we won’t put him on the DL until day 10 of his injury.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
makes sense...
but if you look at Denorfia’s career stats – it’s hard to figure how he accrued 2 yrs of service time. Mauybe he got credit for the whole year (2007) he spent on the DL.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Nov 12, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
He did
He was injured in spring training of that year, prior to being optioned to the minors.
Odd how getting injured a couple of weeks earlier can earn a guy $400,000 instead of like $50,000. One of those weird quirks in the rules.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
And so it begins.....
Things should become much clearer in the next week and a half leading up to the 40Man deadline and the Rule 5 draft.
Let the Kids play Billy!! No More Rent-a-Vet in Oakland!!
is the 40-man deadline just for the Rule V draft?
whoever a team is protecting needs to be on the 40-man by November 20th?
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Nov 10, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
It would appear.......
I thought it was already december for a minute there, and rather than a week and a half, its more like 5 weeks.
Let the Kids play Billy!! No More Rent-a-Vet in Oakland!!
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Nov 17, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
We seek him here, we seek him there;
Those 5-1s seek him everywhere;
Is he in heaven? or is he in Hell Sacramento?
That damn’d elusive Pimpernel!
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
The Scarlet Pimiento?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Demmed.
I adore him in that. Best thing he ever did.
I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King
I still don't believe he's not related to Trevor Howard
or Ron Howard
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Nov 12, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
or Ryan Howard
a brother by another mother?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Good Move
Frees up outfield space. I was not for resigning Matt Carson, as we will need space for Buck, Cunningham, Doolittle, Carter, perhaps Brown…
Carson's still in the system
but he’s not on the 40-man roster anymore.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Carson is signed
he signed a minor league contract with the A’s and it comes with a spring training invite.
But no hotel accommodations.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Actually, he signed a major-league contract
and then was outrighted to the minors. He still ends up in Sacramento with a spring training invite, but it makes a difference in his contract status (including, presumably, better pay).
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Zonis, what impact does this move have on your man-crush for Denorfia.
by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 11, 2009 10:05 AM PST reply actions
I want to know what impact it has on CP#16
I haven’t had my irrelevant-discussions-about-far-away-minor-leaguers fix in like a week, dammit.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Does that mean Denorfia is no longer eligible?
I was thinking of maybe voting for him somewhere around #37.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
lol its called Finals
and packing to go back to the USA
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
I thought you were in Chicago?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Nov 12, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
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