Billy Beane Exclusive Athletics Nation Interview: Season End 2009 Part II
Yesterday was part one of the Beane season ending Athletics Nation interview. Today is part two. I won't set this one up, I'll just let the interview speak for itself.
Hope you enjoy and can start looking forward to 2010. I know I am.
Blez: The starting pitching has really matured nicely with quite a few early ups and downs which you said you expected. The overall team ERA is fourth best in the AL.
Beane: Is it really? I didn't know it was that high. We fluctuated back and forth.
Blez: Not the starting pitching on its own, the whole staff together. It includes the bullpen.
Beane: And the bullpen has been spectacular. Numbers-wise, we'll have somewhere around 113-114 games started by rookies, which is an incredible number. I'm guessing that's the highest in the major leagues.
Blez: I'm guessing no one else is close.
Beane: It has been as we expected and we've had some good days and had some bad days. If you look at the guys who've been in there regularly, certainly Brett, who has gotten progressively better there from the start of the season and certainly Trevor Cahill has as well. Particularly look at his last six or seven starts. You remember the kid is 21 years old. He would've been a junior in college this year and eligible for the draft and here he is in the majors with double digit wins in our league too. The American League is not a forgiving place for a rookie pitcher, so I think he's shown himself nicely. Gio (Gonzalez) who came up and had some really tough starts, but he's definitely shown flashes of what he can be. I think overall we have to be pleased with some of these guys. The thing that was tough was losing (Josh) Outman who was pitching very well and you saw what this kid could become.
Blez: I was just going to ask about some of the progress of the injured pitchers like Dallas Braden, Vin Mazzaro, Joey Devine and Michael Ynoa?
Beane: Yeah but finishing up on the starting pitching, we certainly expected some ups and downs with the young starting pitching, there have certainly been more ups than downs. All the guys have justified our faith in them from their time in the minor leagues. I think they have a chance to be even better this year. We've stretched them out a bit in September here. Some of the guys we lost, we had to patch a starting rotation together in an effort to reduce some of the innings of some of these guys and in Vinny Mazzaro's case we were just very conservative in shutting him down. In another situation if we were fighting for a division, Vinny would probably still be out there but we want to be very, very conservative in how we treat these young guys. Some of the success, and the fact that we're fourth in the league, the credit goes to the bullpen which as I said has been absolutely phenomenal. After taking arguably our best reliever out of the equation in spring training in Joey Devine, it gets us very excited with what that bullpen will be like next year to think we'll be adding Devine to it.
To address the injury situation, Joey is doing great. He's right on schedule to be on a normal routine from the first day of spring training on. So we have complete faith that he's going to be back and at 100 percent next year. In Josh's case, he had the surgery a little later but he's doing great. If anyone knows Josh, he's a real hard worker. As far as his timetable, it's a little early now, but it's almost a full calendar year. There are cases where some guys come back a little earlier, some a little later, but you have to assume it's going to be a full calendar year. All indications are Josh is on that timeline.
Blez: It seems like it might be a little difficult to put a rotation together next year given all the candidates you have. Pleasurably difficult, if that makes sense.
Beane: Yeah definitely, it will be a good problem to have. I don't think you can have enough good starters with the injury factor and how difficult it is to go out and find them when you lose one. If it's a problem, it's one I welcome. In Dallas' (Braden) case it was just unfortunate with that infection in his foot, but when a starting pitcher has missed as much time as he has, there becomes a cutoff point where it becomes unrealistic that he can come back at any point during the remainder of the season. Dallas, in a very short time, established himself as a very good major league starting pitcher and one of the best ones we had on our staff so it's disappointing to lose him as he would've had a major impact on how we're finishing up now.
Blez: I was going to get into the bullpen, but it must be nice to feel like you already have one aspect of the team covered going into this offseason. You've got Ziegler, Bailey and Wuertz still around and if you throw in Joey Devine. That's four solid rocks of your bullpen already set for next year.
Beane: Breslow has also pitched very well for us and Blevins and Kilby have done very, very well in coming up. We've got a very good bullpen right now and looking ahead to 2010 it's one that could conceivably be better. We feel very good about that position.
Blez: You also add to that mix one of the starting pitchers that might not make the rotation because of all the starting pitching candidates you have.
Beane: These are all good problems to have and it isn't something we've had lately. Still you have keep injuries in mind and be careful. We do have high hopes that Joey will be 100 percent ready to go come the spring. The past few years have proven that you have to have depth if you're going to be successful for 162 games.
Blez: The situation with Justin Duchscherer is obviously very sad and it almost seems callous to talk about baseball in terms of him, but do you anticipate him being a part of the team in 2010 or is the situation too tenuous right now?
Beane: First and foremost, contractually, he's a free agent. It's not a unilateral decision we can make. In short, we hope he is doing well. We need to respect what he's going through right now and from a professional standpoint, also monitor it and deal with it when the time comes. But anyone who has seen Justin pitch for the five years he's pitched for us, it's pretty easy to recognize he's a really good pitcher and will be valuable to anybody. As to how we go forward, we'll know once we get into winter, but not one we can answer right now. I don't think there's any shortage of people around here who aren't fans of the person and also fans of the talent.
Blez: How do you feel about your draft this year? You drafted Grant Green and addressed the need for a shortstop. But when you're looking at Max Stassi, he slipped to later in the draft because of concerns over signability. Is that something that you're looking at to spend a little more of the organizations' dollars in terms of going after someone who other teams might have passed on because of the concerns of signability?
Beane: Yeah, that's why we were able to get him where we did. If you look at an organization that's trying to rebuild from within, it's one area you can improve yourself, it was a conscious decision this year to take some chances on guys who might be difficult signs but we thought were very talented players. We had not done that in previous years and we're a little bit behind the curve because of it. If you look at the lifeblood of an organization like ours, it's going to come from within. If we're going to compete, we're going to try and bring in as many good young players as we can because that's really where the bulk of our future lies. In Max's case, this is a really impressive 18-year-old kid. We thought that and a lot of teams did as well. We weren't unique there. But based on what I've seen so far, we couldn't be happier that not only did we draft him, but we signed him. We think he could be a really good major league player and that it could happen quicker than most people think for a high school kid. He's really impressive and has been since the first day he put on our uniform.
Blez: Do you think he was ultimately first round talent?
Beane: That's what we saw him as is a first round talent. We did and hence why we had to compensate him as he had a full ride to UCLA. I just feel fortunate we were able to get him and able to sign him.
Blez: You said the lifeblood of a small market organization comes from building from within, but the 2009-2010 free agent season is right around the corner. I know you can't really talk about any upcoming free agents or anything, but if you had to look at your shopping list for next season what are areas you'd like to improve for your team?
Beane: Free agency usually starts five days after the World Series and it isn't really an area historically we've been involved in. In understanding what we're trying to do here especially long term, when you sign free agents, you're giving up draft picks. We have to be cognizant of that in that whenever you're bringing players in it isn't just cost, but what you're giving up in terms of standing in the way of long-term development of a younger player who might be there for a long time. Historically, we haven't been in the free agent market early. It doesn't mean that we don't go through the exercise of looking at the club needs and how they will addressed either short term or long term. We usually start a little earlier than people think, at least internally, but we will be looking at it over the next month or month and a half. I would expect us to try to continue what we've been doing here, particularly in the second half, which is creating a young team that has a chance to get better and better each year and one that can stay around for a while.
Blez: Speaking of free agents, Adam Kennedy is going to be a free agent at the end of the year. He obviously came in and did some amazing things for the team. Is he someone you're interested in bringing back, especially as he has already expressed interest in coming back? He seems like he'd be a good stop gap solution at third base until Brett Wallace is capable of taking over that position.
Beane: There are some things that you have to address pretty quickly. I agree with you in that Adam Kennedy has just been outstanding for us this year. If you consider the fact that he'd never played third base as we put him over there when Ellie (Mark Ellis) came back and he was learning the position at the major league level, we're very happy with not only what he's provided on the field but in the clubhouse too. He's a grinder and he brings a certain mentality to the game that I think is very positive. That's going to be one of the things I'm going to have to deal with pretty quickly after the season. The best thing I can say is that we've been very pleased with Adam and he's been great to have around. As far as him coming back next year, it will definitely be a topic of conversation. But from Adam's end, Adam is a free agent and he has the ability to choose where he wants to go. Rest assured we'll be having conversations internally and we'll be having a conversation with his representative as well as Adam himself.
Blez: What about Jack Cust? The team is seemingly pretty desperate for power and that's one thing that Cust does well.
Beane: You have to respect what Jack has done and the fact that he does have power on a team that doesn't have significant power. Once again, I'm not sure we could answer that question now. But he's arbitration-eligible so it isn't like he's a free agent. You have to respect Jack has hit 30 plus homers for us in a year and he probably isn't going to reach that this year but he's still our leading home run hitter. He and every other player on the team will be subject to evaluation going forward, not just for next year but for many years ahead. These are the things we get to do in October and November.
Blez: There was a lot of discussion heading into the season that Jack was going to try and cut down on the strikeouts so he could hopefully bring up the batting average. It didn't seem to work out. Do you think the focus on cutting down on those strikeouts wound up hurting his performance?
Beane: It would be better for Jack to answer that one. Jack is going to hit home runs. He's going to strike out. He's going to take his walks. The other thing about Jack is that 99 percent of the season, on a team that has more than its share of injuries over the past few years, Jack is ready to go out there every day. He keeps himself in good shape. There has rarely been a day that Jack has been here when Bob can't put him in the lineup. With the situation we've had the last three years, it's been nice that he's been healthy and available.
Blez: This is year three of the five-year rebuilding plan if you count the rebuilding starting after the 2006 season, but this would be the third year of the remaking of the team (Beane corrected me stating that the rebuilding actually started with the trading of Haren in late 2007). I know it's really early because we haven't even finished 2009 yet, but how do you feel about the team, especially because teams like Texas are on the rise and Anaheim remains a good team? Do you think the team will take that giant leap forward in year four of this rebuilding process?
Beane: I don't think you can really say until you start to go into the offseason and formulate next year's team. I think in the last couple of months, I've seen us put in some building blocks for a team that's going to be good. There's still a lot of areas that we need to improve on and some of that improvement will come by adding players from the minor league system but also just through these players getting better over time. I think it's hard to put a timetable on it, but anyone who follows this team on a regular basis can look at some positions, whether it be the pitching staff or in the field and say, this guy is a good young player and he has a chance to get better. As far as the timetable, it's tough to do. We're putting together a team that has a chance over the next few years to continue getting better and better. At what rate is hard to predict because sometimes young players will surprise you and develop quicker than you think, particularly when there is a lot of them that have a lot of confidence, but in some cases they can disappoint. When you take a guy like Brett Anderson over the course of a full season and chart his improvement, I think everyone is excited to see how good he can actually be next year after having a full year under his belt. And if you multiply that by say 25 guys, sometimes they can surprise you. The building blocks are in place and when that happens I certainly couldn't predict. I'm definitely very excited about what they could become.
Blez: Do you think Bob Geren is an ideal manager for this team simply because one of his strengths appears to be working with younger talent?
Beane: Absolutely. If you look at going into August in last place and you've traded away some of the most experienced and in some cases the best players, it's impressive to do what this team has done over the last couple of months. Case in point is this past weekend in Anaheim. The Angels had a chance to clinch the division and these guys never let up. I think that's the best indication in getting these guys to play the way they're playing in the month of September when other teams have more to play for than you do. He's been a young player himself at the major league level. He's managed at every single level. He's coached at every level. So he brings a lot of experience and a lot of it comes from dealing with younger players. It's been very much a positive that's revealed itself over this transition for us.
Blez: Is it the type of situation where maybe he grows up as a manager as the team grows up? Meaning that he becomes more comfortable in being a manager and dealing with veterans and veteran personalities as the team heads towards being more competitive.
Beane: Everybody in any position usually grows a lot the more you deal with those different circumstances. I'm sure there are some things Bob might do different today that he might not have done his first year. I think that comes with experience. Bob is gaining that and gaining it on the job. He's organized and guys are playing hard for him. He's prepared and Bob has all those things.
Blez: As usual, thanks so much for all your time.
Also, in case you're interested in a little more Beane, I did a more general interview for SBNation.com that ran yesterday. And please remember to participate in giving on behalf of AN to the Donor's Choose Social Media Challenge. It's for a great cause. Thank you.
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Awesome series, Blez
I guess we have pretty much two of the hot topics on AN right now answered almost straight up
1) Is Geren coming back next year? - Yes Yes
2) Is Cust coming back next year? -
I do like, how, stats aside, Beane mentioned that Cust is as durable as anyone else in MLB is. On a team with injuries, that’s certainly a plus
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 7:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that was weird, didn't mean to strike those lines out.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting - my reading of that was slightly different
I agree on the Geren thing, sure.
But he seemed a little less than effusive about Jack Cust? I mean, praising someone for being fit – while it’s obviously important, especially on this team, it’s not exactly unreserved praise. But then, perhaps it’s just a negociating tactic?
Either way, we’ll find out sooner or later, I’m sure.
by bobnothing on Oct 6, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only once in this interview did Beane say, "absolutely." Welcome back Mr. Geren, the only absolute for next year.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
by JJ Martin on Oct 6, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the second Cust answer sealed his return
The first wasn’t a cheer for him, but the second was kinda like “well, he’s our only power hitter and we don’t have power. Do we have a choice?”
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my take on it is different
it seemed as if he was saying Jack brings some things we like, but his fate will be decided in October and November as we determine who will fit best on this team going forward and Jack is one of those guys. He didn’t seem excited about any part of Jack’s game other than health.
Adam Kennedy on the other hand is coming back if he wants to.
by Jessse on Oct 6, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Bobnothing on his comments towards Cust...
He seemed very non-commital to him and in some ways it sounded like he was talking about a player who was already on his way out by saying “well you have to respect what Jack Cust has done for us” twice.
It kind of sounds like how a GM would talk about a player in a press conference after letting go a player who has been a big part of the org. the last couple years. For example Beane- after releasing someone like Jason Giambi- saying something to the effect of “first off, I just want to express how much I respect all Jason has done for this organization over the years and for what he’s brought to this team in terms of leadership and performance.”
Where as this interview and, subsequently, all of Beane’s answers have been very forward-thinking and talk about how players fit into the team’s future plans; Beane’s answer in regards to Cust didn’t have that same feel… It felt more reflective, I guess.
Not that I think it suggests anything earth-shattering (OMG! is Cust’s time with the A’s running out!) but it was still an interesting tone taken by Beane, or by any GM for that matter, in regards to a player who, to this point, has not been getting phased out of the starting lineup.
by MAC Attack on Oct 6, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it sounded like he didn't want to talk him up too much
with arbitration negotiation coming up soon. I still think they’ll sign a contract with Cust avoiding arbitration. Even if he’s not a superstar, I think he’s still perceived as well worth the $3-4 million he’d get in arbitration.
I liked the point Billy made about Cust’s health. I’d never thought about that, and I can’t recall ever seeing anyone mention it on AN, but it’s a really good point. A lot of former steroid users suddenly become injury-prone when they come off the stuff, but whatever Jack is doing is working for him health-wise.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing I noticed when looking at
Cust’s contract on Cot’s:
One of the bonus clauses in Jack’s 2009 contract was that he would earn an extra $50,000 if he won a Gold Glove!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Rafael Palmeiro can do it...
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 good points
i didn’t even think about him keeping a level head when talking about cust in order to keep his “worth/value” down. a solid move that scott boras could appreciate. i’m pretty sure cust is coming back.
i also have kind of taken cust’s health for granted. steroids aside, the A’s have been hurting for healthy players the last 3 seasons and cust has been one of very few bright spots.
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
by jlanning17 on Oct 7, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
you articulated much better than I could.
by Jessse on Oct 6, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preview is your friend.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
preview is your backup plan
perfection is your friend
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don't know about you, but I find that friend
to be pretty unreliable. I’d rather go with the backup.
(Same answer for those who say abstinence is the best form of contraception.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 7, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no...
abstinence is the best way to get really really horny…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 8, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q. Do you think you're great, Billy? A. Yes, I think I'm great.
It’s wonderful that you can do these interviews, Blez. I think you’d get more interesting results if you asked open-ended questions (with follow-ups) such as “why do you like Geren as the manager?” rather than “Do you think Bob Geren is an ideal manager for this team simply because one of his strengths appears to be working with younger talent?” But thanks again for this.
I care about your fantasy team.
by stormtown on Oct 6, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A few strikeouts, but still a great average.
I agree that the Geren questions here were very Fosse-ish. (“How great is it to have a manager who can work well with the young guys?”) But you have to acknowledge that most of Blez’s questions are really good. Especially in the first half yesterday. I’m willing to forgive a few whiffs.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enjoyed the interviews Tyler....
Though I would have liked to have heard Billy’s views on the potential move to SJ.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Oct 6, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he didn't talk about ynoa's injury
thanks for the interview
When we played softball, I’d steal second base, feel guilty and go back.
- Woody Allen
by rhymeswithelephant on Oct 6, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that jumped out at me too.
Although he did say they were being very conservative with the young pitchers so I would expect that to be the case with Ynoa too.
by DeJay on Oct 7, 2009 3:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good job Blez
it’s also worth checking out the summary from Beane’s press conference yesterday, which was given later than Blez’ interview. Some interesting additional information on specific players and positions.
by OaklandSi on Oct 6, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good find
Thanks for the link.
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by grover on Oct 6, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure thing
I imagine some other writers who were there might have a different take in some aspects, but I haven’t looked for their articles yet.
by OaklandSi on Oct 6, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to you doing that research!
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by grover on Oct 6, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont' hold your breath, unfortunately
I have a pretty full plate at work here…I only have little windows of time to indulge my AN addiction…
by OaklandSi on Oct 6, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well... fine then
Don’t let my laziness get in the way of your indulgence!
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by grover on Oct 6, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
all right, all right
here’s Urban’s take
Slusser hasn’t weighed in yet on Beane’s press conference….really, only Stiglich reports on what Beane said, Urban pretty much just gives his opinions.
by OaklandSi on Oct 6, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked you
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew I wouldn't have long to wait
here is Slusser’s take on Beane’s press conference
by OaklandSi on Oct 7, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Urban lists stats of Barton and Carter side-be-side
it is, like, WOW.
Very nice summary from Big Urb.
by redtopcowboy on Oct 7, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Key point
The A’s obtained left fielder Scott Hairston in a July trade to help solidify the lineup, but Beane added: “The opportunity will be there for him, but in the same sense it’s one that he’s going to have to grasp. Until that happens, you always have to look at ways to strengthen yourself.”
Translation: hit righties or you’re back to a platoon role, Scott.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston could be trade bait also
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 6, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for who?
Considering his lameness with the A’s so far, who would want him?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Diego has this injury-prone pitcher named Sean Gallagher...
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, that would be funny
I wonder if the same two guys have ever been traded for each other twice?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Andrew Brown traded for Milton Bradley twice?
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
by Taj Adib on Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, looks like Brown was a PTBNL in the first one between LA/CLE
The second was the Padres trade.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erik Plunk has been involved in two trades for Rickey Henderson
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
back and forth to the same team though?
I guess that’s more what I meant
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Plunk/Henderson ones were
December 5, 1984: Traded by the New York Yankees with Tim Birtsas, Jay Howell, Stan Javier and Jose Rijo to the Oakland Athletics for Bert Bradley, Rickey Henderson and cash.
June 21, 1989: Traded by the Oakland Athletics with Greg Cadaret and Luis Polonia to the New York Yankees for Rickey Henderson.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 6, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
Plunk’s claim to fame I suppose
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the moral of the story is
you can’t get equal value for Rickey Henderson no matter who you are or what you trade.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 6, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't there some weird case where
a guy turned out to be his own PTBNL?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harry Chiti, better known as,
“Harry Shitty”
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Oct 6, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That, and...
find a way to stay on the field and hit for the power you showed in San Diego.
That’s a pretty revealing comment from Beane, taken as a whole. I would have totally thought he would have just regressed into a standard answer if asked about Hairtson, like, “Scott dealt with some unfortunate injuries in the 2nd half and we still really believe in him. We think we haven’t seen the best of Scott and look forward to him being a big part of our 2010 and 2011 teams.”
Instead, no mention of injuries (at least in the article) and it’s a quote that I translate into being, “We weren’t overly impressed with the way Hairston played for us or even took care of himself while here. He needs to stay healthy and hit for power consistently before we pencil him into our plans for the next year or two.”
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
by Taj Adib on Oct 6, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they love Eric Patterson
I think Patterson will be given every chance to steal left field from Hairston. He’s probably better defensively, he provides good value on the bases…and he’s healthy.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Patterson getting most the starts against RHP’s next spring in left field.
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Oct 6, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that Hairston was yanked from an extra inning game
after failing to run out a fly ball that was dropped.
But I have to disagree, NSJ, about Hairston’s/Patterson’s defense. Hairston didn’t look good with the A’s but he was generally playing with a bad quad. He’s actually a decent defensive LFer, something Patterson is not.
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by Nico on Oct 6, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patterson better defensively? Really?
I didn’t watch many games, but Patterson never looked even remotely good defensively any time I saw him.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Color me baffled by that comment as well
Hairston is actually a good defensive outfielder. He’s got a career positive UZR in center field in a healthy sample size.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm. I was going only off what I've watched from the two this year.
Far less valuable observation than long-term UZR numbers, obviously.
Does Petco help a guy’s UZR, or does UZR normalize for park effects in the outfield? I think it still has a little bit of outfield noise, judging by the numbers LFers post in Fenway.
Patterson is faster than Hairston and, in my opinion, has a better arm. If he’s a horrible route taker – which it sounds like he is, and I will defer to you guy’s opinions on that one – then clearly Hairston has him beat.
But with better speed and arm strength than Hairston he probably could and should pass him in defensive value in time.
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by notsellingjeans on Oct 7, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know it's time to re-examine your opinion
when Nico and Paul Thomas BOTH disagree with you!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clowns to the left of me/Jokers to the right
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by monkeyball on Oct 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to quietly step away from this thread
I’ve written too many dumb things for a few days. Time to go back into my corner and rest for a while. :)
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by notsellingjeans on Oct 7, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patterson has a really terrible arm...
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by mikeA on Oct 7, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say, he has the most laughably bad arm I've ever seen
by bobnothing on Oct 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Grieve says hi.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shannon Stewart says hi.
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by travdog6 on Oct 7, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another good one.
Isn’t it amazing that Ben Grieve, Terrence Long, and Matt Stairs were allowed to comprise a major-league outfield for an entire season? Rob Neyer found it so amazing, he made it a sidebar in one of his books.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MOAR LAWN DARTS
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 7, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what I read between the lines:
- No Duchscherer.
- No significant free agent signings.
- They’re in serious talks with Adam Kennedy right now, and it could go either way depending on terms.
- They intend to sign Cust but they’re playing it cool right now because they’re getting ready to negotiate a deal to avoid arbitration.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oaklandsi's link suggests that a FA pitcher is a strong possibility, which I think is an excellent idea
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by mikeA on Oct 6, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get that from the AK part
The last part I agree with but I got nothing that suggests serious talks.
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I inferred too much.
By “serious” I didn’t mean that the A’s are necessarily gunning real hard to get him. I meant “serious” in the sense that they’re already working on real negotiations now as opposed to the preliminary dancing around with vague generalities, which is where I think they are with everyone else.
I got that from Beane’s words about addressing the question “pretty quickly” and the way in which his allusions to discussions with Kennedy were far more concrete than mentions of discussions with anyone else. My sense, then, is that for whatever reason Beane has decided that yes-or-no on Kennedy is the first big roster decision to make before moving on to other decisions (which may be affected by the Kennedy decision), and from that I assume that he’s already well into negotiation mode in spite of saying “we’ll be having” conversations.
But like I said, maybe I’m reading too much into it.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are.
Rest assured we’ll be having conversations internally and we’ll be having a conversation with his representative as well as Adam himself.
To me means were going to kick it around here and then talk to him and figure out if it makes any sense rather than we are trying to sign him.
I think the difference in the way you are looking at this is Kennedy is the only real FA out there, everybody else beyond duke who is a special case is under team control.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind having Kennedy back...
but he needs to put in some work this offseason to be a better third baseman.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I interpreted it the same way iglew did; basically,
“We’d like to have Kennedy back as a veteran presence and we’re going to have those conversations soon.” I’m all for Kennedy as a utility backup. I’m all against Kennedy as a starting 3Bman.
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by Nico on Oct 6, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What utility does he provide?
Can’t play short, can’t play third base well, can’t hit enough to play first.
Sounds like Eric Patterson for more money with less upside. What on earth is the point of that?
And I have to say, I’ve had it up to here [gestures in direction of neck] with “veteran presence.” I’ve actually reached the point that I think veterans have a negative impact.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must hate Sabean if you hate the veteran presence stuff.
He’s been defending the Edgar Rentereia signing and crediting a lot of Pablo Sandoval’s progress as a player on Rentereia’s help and advice in the clubhouse.
by IM4Oakgal on Oct 6, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ran a search of my user history for the word "Sabean"
Let’s just say that I find his competence level underwhelming.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admire the way that you made every word a link.
That was way cool.
by IM4Oakgal on Oct 6, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone should hate Sabean.
unless he GMs a rival
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In what universe
does experience have a negative value?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The universe in which experience is highly correlated
with excessively high salaries, declining performance, more playing time than players deserve, and inflated entitlement complexes.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 7, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are separate issues
It wouldn’t be accurate to say that the experience itself is negative. The fact that older employees get overpaid for doing the same work isn’t a problem unique to baseball.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
That might explain why I’m griping about “veteran presence” and not “experience qua experience.”
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 7, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the more playing time than they deserve is a big one...
similar is “should be cut, but would be seen as disrespectful or something…” Signing a veteran as a reserve/utility guy is very dangerous for that reason.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering whether Uggla might not be an option for 3B.
Something involving Hairston might make sense. If they trade Uggla, Volstad moves to 2B and if they don’t keep Hermida, they’ve got Maybin, Ross and a blank spot in the OF. Hairston’s cheaper than Uggla.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 6, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking you mean Coghlan, or Cantu
And not suggesting that SP Chris Volstad should be turned into a 2Bman?
by el generico on Oct 6, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I meant Coghlan
Stupid dementia…
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 6, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coglan would be a jewel.
But I bet we couldn’t get him without giving up more than Beane wants to.
by IM4Oakgal on Oct 7, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Further Proof that ERA doesn't matter
Beane: Is it really? I didn’t know it was that high.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 6, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yo ERA im really happy for you, Ima let you finnish but tRA had one of the best metrics of all time
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it
In your non-analytical life, you freestyle.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually have never seen where that came from but with all internet memes you gotta exploit the hell out of them
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the Kanye West one
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 6, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the feeling.
I have no idea where “Trogdor” came from, but I love milking it anyway. (And the picture is so cool-looking.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trogdor is from Homestar Runner
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 6, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to watch this.
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 6, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
by travdog6 on Oct 6, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is teribly hilarious
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Subtle and clever and funny
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 6, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a nice way to compliment Blez
by OaklandSi on Oct 6, 2009 8:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Not What He Meant to Say About Duchscherer, I think
I don’t think there’s any shortage of people around here who aren’t fans of the person and also fans of the talent.
This literally says that lots of folks can’t stand Duke personally, but like his talent.
Take this as a warning: if Billy Beane can’t handle such complicated concatenations of conversational negatives, it’s probably best not to try them ourselves.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Oct 6, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL I see what you mean
But I did get what Beane was saying.
Perhaps it would have been better for him to simply say “I don’t think there’s any shortage of people around here who aren’t fans of Duke as a person,” as he had referenced his talent earlier
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This scares me
“Let’s put it this way — I don’t think (shortstop) is going to be at the top of the list of things we need to address,” Beane said.
If the A’s want to contend next year I can’t see a bigger hole.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3rd base?
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by grover on Oct 6, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we have been down this road before
I think the internal replacement level at 3b is higher plus you have the ghost of Eric Chavez to delude yourself with. At SS you have Pennington along with a great abyss of suck after him and to be honest im not sure he doesn’t belong in that abyss.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget Chavez
Eric Chavez producing in 2010 is the MLB equivalent of you putting on an old coat and finding $20 in the pocket. It’s just not something you count on.
If you’re talking about contending in 2010, I don’t see how you can consider two minor league players who’s bats and gloves aren’t ready yet. Realistically maybe by July one or the other will be ready to play in Oakland but that’s a whole slew of games you’ve missed out on.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There go my lunch plans.
Can I have $10?
by oblique on Oct 6, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm married
I haven’t had that much cash in a week.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 6, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next interlude is drawing near.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
two guys with corked bats,
and one guy with a corked guitar.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
Earlier this summer two of my fire fighters kept mangling the words to Folsom Prison Blues. I finally had to write the lyrics out on a sheet of paper so they could get the song right, thus keeping me from having to duct tape their mouths shut and/or inflicting serious bodily harm unto them.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take it they didn't much feel like singing 'Ring Of FIre'
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All they could remember was the chorus
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try being divorced.
On second thought, don’t.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 6, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm finding divorce to be far more remunerative than marriage.
Before marriage, I never made money because I didn’t need to. Marriage taught me the habit of making money, but I was never the one who spent it (or if I did, it was only to spend it on her). Now I continue to make money out of habit, but I don’t have anyone to spend it on, so it’s starting to pile up.
Even so, I still don’t recommend it. I’d rather be married and broke.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry you can spend it on me any time!
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm afraid that's going to require
a bit of quid pro quo. Are you prepared for that eventuality?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Oct 7, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not me...
I’m bored of capitalist excess.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Does Mrs. g ever read this site?
by IM4Oakgal on Oct 6, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But my parents do.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 7, 2009 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next question.
Do they like her more than they like you?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Oct 7, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LF?
And if Rajai Davis really does go POOF as many fear, either CF or RF depending on where Sweeney goes.
And then there’s questions about Sweeney!
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No questions about Sweeney, only answers, because Ryan Sweeney is better than you think he is
I think relative to their position Hairston Cunningham Buck Doolittle are much more likely than Pennington and Petit to provide average production.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, lets break this down by components
First off… gotcha with the Sweeney comment.
Gun to your head, is Sweeney a +6 run defensive CF? His bat looks much better in CF than in RF and we should probably be careful when banking so much value on defensive scoring. Anyone else remember the hoopla when Ellis got signed to his extension? 2009 saw a major drop in his defensive value according to Fangraphs, there is risk that Sweeney’s defensive scores could drop back to his previous career level.
Buck is still struggling to get back onto the field thanks to brain damage. Hairston fell well short of expectations, Doolittle should be starting in AAA next year and Cunningham is practically a rookie. That sounds more like you’re throwing a bunch of crap against the wall and hoping something will stick.
And like I said, if Rajai fades than Sweeney is first in line for CF. If Sweeney is in CF then you have two openings in the outfield and you’re really pushing it to think that those 4 guys you listed can find a way to provide average outfield production at two corner OF spots.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In short
it’s unlikely the A’s will get anything resembling average production from its outfield next year.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 6, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could if Rajai repeats in 2009
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by grover on Oct 6, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me no preview. Bad Muppet.
I meant 2010.
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by grover on Oct 6, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, hence unlikely.
Obi Wan Ken-Slappy is our only hope.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds more like you’re throwing a bunch of crap against the wall and hoping something will stick.
Isn’t that standard operating procedure round these parts?
Also, FWIW (not that it’s really apropos of anything), Ellis had a fairly crummy season for his standards and was still worth more than he was paid according to fangraphs, which should say something about how good that contract was. Normally it’s the opposite (even if players do as well as you could reasonably hope for, they still end up barely being worth the money).
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SOP... fair enough
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by grover on Oct 7, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the crap throwing in the OF is better
than the crap being thrown at SS thats all.
Also Carter should be added to the crap to throw.
As for Sweeney gun to my head he is +7 full time in CF.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Carter gets a shot in ST?
That seems to run counter to your typical service time stance.
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by grover on Oct 7, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No after the other crap slides off in May
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 8, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather get a 3B or starting pitcher.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 6, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have three high upside MLB ready options at 3b.
Chavez
Wallace
Cardenas
It will take you a year to figure out that all of those don’t work.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who is truly available at SS though without breaking the pocketbook?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tejada with his 2.9% walk rate actually solves both problems if he doesn't collapse
which isn’t that unlikely.
Cabrera, because it was so much fun the first time?
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 6, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we got Tejada, I'd put him at 3B instead of SS; Cabrera isn't any better than Pennington
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 6, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd make a serious play for Hardy on a "buy low" deal
He won’t come for nothing but he’ll come for a whole heck of a lot less than he would have a year ago.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 6, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want any more prospects for rentals trades for a little while
Even though Hardy would be a pretty big upgrade, the team still wouldn’t look like a contender next year with him. I’d much rather see them spend money of which there is plenty than give up prospects.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 6, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My interest in Hardy is partly that he's now
under contract through 2011. So he’d be more than a rental; to me he’d be a solution until guys like Green might actually be ready and when the team might be really good.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 6, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardy with his 40 something RBI'S and 220 something B.A.?
Boo to that.
by IM4Oakgal on Oct 6, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously we would be hoping for a return to 2008 form
Where he had a wOBA of .355 which along with very good defense at SS meant he was worth a staggering $22.2m. In fact UZR has consistently rated his defense highly. If he could be had cheaply then I would be happy to take the gamble.
by DeJay on Oct 7, 2009 4:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing -- if you want to buy low on a player
you have to be willing to cringe at what he’s shown you he might do and remember what he’s also shown you he can do.
But either way he’s a solid defensive SS with some pop, so I see his floor as “Crosby 2004.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 7, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't his floor, by definition, not better than what he did this year?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 7, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if Tejada is limping enough yet for the A's
Plus, wouldn’t he be expensive?
I’d go with Cabrera, again, if he can be had fairly cheaply.
Nevertheless, I suspect this is a moot point — it’s clear Beane likes Pennington for better or for worse. I’m just not sure which it is yet.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vaguely recall reading something during the year about
Ellis’s arm strength slowly coming back. Is it purest fantasy for me to even be thinking about the possibility of trying him at SS again?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
but it’s a nice one.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For next year
Chavez is low upside and low everythig and Cardenas is extremely low upside. Wallace is unlikley to be average, and may even project worse than Pennington in WAR terms. Also, 3B has a more promising list of FA candidates than SS, which is pretty much just Scutaro, who is type A. Starting pitcher would be #1 on my list, though. I wouldn’t mind going for one of the injury bunch of Duke/Bedard/Sheets since they should probably be looking for upside. Wolf and [redacted] would also be good but expensive options.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 6, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pennington will start at SS in 2010
If the A"s resign Kennedy he will start at 3B. I think this is the only option other than getting a FA.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 6, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
[redacted]?
Is that an allusion to Brett Myers’s criminal record?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking more like Vicente Padilla?
Don’t think we want him, though
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Oct 6, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so he's learned how to close his mouth, has he?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 6, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who brought up Lackey?
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Hairston with hair!
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
by travdog6 on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was thinking
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Oct 6, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(spoken in the voice of the
pothead who orders 100 tacos in that Jack in the Box commercial.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most annoying commercial ever
But I guess we’ve all been there in some shape or form.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Oct 6, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that ad.
They won’t come out and explicitly say, “if your stoned out of your head, come to Jack in the Box”, but there are like 20 different coded signals — the van, the hair, the munchies, the dude’s expression and cadence of speech. It’s awesome.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sentiment is right on
But the guys voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Oct 6, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to confirm your guess
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 6, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 7, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take a minor league contract flyer on Hinske
for 3B, 1B, and RF.
Couldn’t hurt, and he’d probably return more production than Kennedy.
by cityplANner on Oct 6, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think ANY of those options are MLB ready
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's about 2010
I think it’s about setting this team up for 2011 and so I don’t think the team is going to do much like going after cheap free agents like they did. If they’re going to address the shortstop issue, it will come from internal or a trade midseason.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Oct 6, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I see could June/July call-ups for whoever is tearing up AAA
whether it’s Carter/Cardenas/Wallace/any combo of the 3. And then fill the rest of the holes with FA over next winter and gear up for ’11.
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
by dtownmbrown on Oct 6, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's out there that can play short?
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
by travdog6 on Oct 6, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
salb?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wuertz
Beane will cash him in the trade market this offseason. He is signed through 2011, so no rush until its a worthwhile deal. But the right handed reliever depth might be more than enough to make up for his loss w/ ziegler, gray (lower arm angel throwing 97mph), meloan , hrod, devine/brown (if healthy), demel and few other prospects in the minors. Plus casilla is always good for 20-30 innings before he falls apart and blevins/breslow/kilbu have shown the ability to get both lefty/righty hitters out. Wuertz + another player like buck in a trade combo can bring back a good return.
by Asfan4ever723 on Oct 6, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree on using this surplus to fill a need
My best hope would be to use this to deal with the left side of the infield — even under a best-case scenario (Pennington is good, Kennedy/Wallace get 3B) the A’s still don’t have a backup SS/3B on the team. If the Phillies had any likely players like that, they’d probably jump at the chance for a good reliever, since the BP has caused them so many headaches this year.
Is there a good match here with the Brewers for Hardy?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 6, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking the same thing
Wuertz is good, plus the A’s have other possibly appealing talent they can afford to part with, such as Simmons, Buck, H-Rod, etc. There might be a match for the Brew Crew, who pretty much need to deal Hardy or what, stash him in AAA again?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 6, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying its a bad idea
but you’re gonna push hardy all winter, no? time to update last years post.
by Future Ed on Oct 6, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know one thing for sure...
Casilla WILL BE non-tendered!
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Casilla should be fired out of a cannon.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Oct 6, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kitten Cannon!
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 6, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake Fox anyone
cheap power righty bat who can DH, play some 3b and 1b too. Just dont give up 3 pitchers like they did with hairston!!
MLBTR mentions him as a trade candidate for cubs
by Asfan4ever723 on Oct 6, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Flying Fox of the Yard?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm disappointed that no one got this
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got it, I just didn't have a witty retort
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 7, 2009 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs


A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 7, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah!
Not bad. Although no one uses retort flasks anymore.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 7, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...



"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 7, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheesesteak Euler Cake?
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 7, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it would be clearer if this were the middle picture

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 7, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
still don’t SWYDT.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 8, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll interpret
1st version:
Cheesesteak wit’
E
re-tortes (poetic license, with multiple tortes counting as “re”).
2nd, improved version:
Cheesesteak wit
Lake Erie
Tortes
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 8, 2009 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was stuck on the "wit"
I still don’t get that. Is it a Philly thing? How is a cheesesteak a “wit”?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 8, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is.
Wit’ = with onions
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 8, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The proper retort in such a case is
“ISWYDT”
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 7, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting "Shut up!"
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 7, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya he could be a Cust replacement. Maybe for a relief pitcher or two. Cubs aren't happy with Gregg.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 6, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give 'em Wuertz.
They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!
by muffinpryde on Oct 6, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Kennedy is a defensive shitshow.
I’d love to see an Adrian Beltre (Type B) one year, $10-14M dollar offer.
Is he motivated to sign for only one year, so that he can have a good season, rebuild his value, and position himself as the third-best free agent positiion player next offseason behind Mauer and Crawford? If so, I offer him a one-year deal that’s $1-2M better than any other one-year offer he receives (that’s why I’m saying $10-14M). If he takes it, that’s my only splurge for the offseason and I fill everything else internally.
You’d have a one-year bridge to Wallace, outstanding defense at the hot corner again, and a highly motivated Beltre, healthy and playing for a contract. The last time he was in that position and healthy, the Dodgers got an MVP season out of him.
If he wants multiple years, I’d take a pass. I’d be willing to offer the best deal for one year; overpaying for every year in the life of multi-year contract would be scary.
Ultimately he wouldn’t want to play in a 40-year old stadium in front of 17,000 fans a night so I don’t think we’ll have to worry about it coming to fruition anyway.
But I don’t like Kennedy over there. 20 errors, and they weren’t fluky. He’s very bad fundamentally at third base. Bad footwork, and lazy. He fields every ball as if he’s still playing second base with the bases empty. It just doesn’t work.
I am appreciative of Kennedy’s approach at the plate and his fit as a leadoff hitter. If he weren’t a defensive albatross I would be enthusiastic about keeping him.
Can Eric Patterson play third? I’m guessing his arm is too weak.
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Oct 6, 2009 5:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree but..
Kennedy is a terrible 3b. Beltre is a gold glove winner who is worth his defense but I wouldn’t go over 8 million for him. His hitting is way down.
by Arcman on Oct 6, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Patterson's arm is too weak to play SECOND base
Not that he ever fields a ground ball cleanly anyway.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 6, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the fact that Kennedy essentially
learned 3B on the fly in the major leagues starting mid-season gives some hope. I’m not saying he’ll ever be great, but if he had an off-season to devote more fully to practicing fundamentals I think he could upgrade himself from atrocious to just bad.
Your observation that he “fields every ball as if he’s still playing second base with the bases empty” I think supports this. Instead of learning 3B properly from the basics, he just improvised off his old 2B habits.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 6, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still waiting to hear why a guy with bad defense AND bad offense has any place on the 2010 A's
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 6, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll fit right in with Moneypenny :)
Batting 4th for the 2014 San Jose A's: 26-year-old RF Justin Upton, in the 1st season of a nine year, $250M deal.
by notsellingjeans on Oct 7, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you looked at the roster recently?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks as always Tyler
I’ve always enjoyed these interviews you do with Beane. It should be an interesting off-season and I’ll be curious to see what the A’s do.
I doubt I’m saying anything original when I say that 3B and a power bat are the two things I think the A’s need most.
It seems that Rajai has made a fan out of Billy and it sure seems like he’ll be given every chance to be the starting CF next year. I’m a Rajai fan too although I’ll admit this could be his career year we’ll see I guess.
I see that a lot of people are reading the way Beane talked about Cust in different ways. I think if the price is right and the A’s can’t find anyone better then Jack will be back next year.
The one question I wish could have been asked though is what type of budget do the A’s plan on having for next year? With all the young,cheap pitching the A’s should have some money to spend but will they and should they?
If the A’s just spend the money on a couple of retreads (aka Giambi) then I’d rather see them put that money into next years draft but if the chance to grab a great player comes along what will the A’s do?
by sirbed on Oct 6, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great job on the interview
Some very interesting tidibits, though Beane really plays things close to the vest.
Some section were, for lack of a better phrase, like trying to find meaning in a Pauly Shore movie.
by cityplANner on Oct 6, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
mortensen off AFL roster
replaced with mickey storey according to scout.com
by Asfan4ever723 on Oct 6, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems appropriate
Courts will punish him for his impact on society at large, but the A’s are also well within their rights punishing him for the potentially negative impact on the team.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 7, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they didn't want to tempt him with the Phoenix bar scene
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Oct 7, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The A's announced before his DUI that he would not be ...
playing in the AFL. Due to September call-up he reached his innings max for the year. DUI and not playing in the AFL are not connected.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Oct 7, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either that
or he can’t drive to the ballpark anymore. But, it seems neither is the case.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 7, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Blez,
:-)
Regards
Daniel777
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Oct 8, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Billy,
Glaus pls
Love from
Daniel777
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Oct 8, 2009 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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