DLD 10.29.09 - Best sports video game?
by JLaff on Oct 29, 2009 11:47 AM PDT
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Yay, the weekend is almost here!
Links:
- Warriors drop season opener to Rockets. At least the A's aren't as dysfunctional as the other two Oakland teams.
- Yankees lefty Phil Coke is an everyman... because he used to have a second job? He still makes exponentially more than I do.
- Redskins owner Dan Snyder has banned all signs from North Korea Communist China FedEx Field.
A spokesman told me that this policy is meant to protect spectators from getting injured by signs, and also to make sure everyone can see the action. Because obstructed views at that stadium could not possibly be tolerated.
- Need relationship help? Ask Madden.
Video games put you in the game. You're the quarterback, the point guard, the center, the pitcher. You must use both your brain and the players' brawn to win. You have to know the game and make the best decisions on the fly. If you don't, you're probably going to lose. Basic instinct teaches us to prefer winning to losing, so we learn the intricacies of whatever game we're playing. And in the case of females like my sister, playing video games can give that basic knowledge of the Power I formation, power forwards, power plays and power hitters, about which they have been wondering -- but afraid to ask -- for ages.
What do you ANers think is the best sports game?
Some of my favorites:
MVP Baseball 2004 (and 05)
via cdn1.gamepro.com
All-Star Baseball 2004 (I loved that you had to worry about options in the franchise mode)
via i.testfreaks.com
Madden 10, Wii (Yes, I know. But I'm finding it really fun!)
via cache.g4tv.com
via ps2media.ign.com
via sydlexia.com
via cdn.springboard.gorillanation.com
These are completely subjective and in no way indicative of what I think the best sports video games are. Your thoughts, since I know baseball games have been talked about in past DLDs?
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*snicker*
…asked how I learned sports — really learned them, as opposed to those girls who masquerade as fans, claiming, “My pink sparkly Red Sox tank top means I know what OPS means!”
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Oct 29, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
*snicker*, part two
4. Joysticks take some getting used to. They are delicate and precise — a bit like females’ feelings.
After the first 1.5 sentences, I really thought she was going a different direction with this one.
by colin on Oct 29, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, you rub them just the right way
They both can explode.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 30, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Baseball Prospectus,
Kevin Goldstein’s Minor League Update: (need subscription)
What am I supposed to write at this point?
Grant Desme, OF, Athletics (AFL: Phoenix)
Yesterday’s stats: 3-for-4, 2 HR (10), 4 R, 4 RBI, BB, K
More fun with numbers. In 12 games, Desme is batting .469/.544/1.143. In the first three innings of games, he’s 8-for-14 with four home runs. When playing left field, he’s 8-for-13 with five home runs. He has no home runs when leading off an inning in 12 at-bats, so when not leading off an inning, he has 10 home runs in 37 at-bats. It’s just ridiculous.
Also:
Jemile Weeks, 2B, Athletics (AFL), 3-for-3, 2 2B, R, 2 RBI: Weeks is a truly special athlete; now he just needs to stay healthy.
Me, I’m a big Jemile Weeks fan. I hope he stays healthy.
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying" - Ichiro
by Philip Christy on Oct 29, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Other Sports Games
Earl Weaver Baseball
Tony LaRussa Baseball
Front Page Sports Football
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 29, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What is this?
a DAILY link dump?
I really liked the All-Star Baseball series for the N64 but once they were on the gamecube they got horrible.
MVP 2005 is my vote.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 29, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP 05
Arthur Rhodes always had a sad face. Terry Mulhulland too.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Oct 29, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TARE....the horror.....the horror....
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 29, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
video games? VIDEO GAMES???
Who can think about video games when there are great games like this coming up soon???
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Oct 29, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think about college FB that much!
But, uh, GO DUCKS! (Sorry, ZF)
Day seized!
by JLaff on Oct 29, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
boo college football
I don’t like watching sports where I don’t know the names of the players . . . except women’s volleyball (I like the enitre full team games more than the beach bikini games. The women are always better looking in indoor volleyball)
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 29, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true.
I don’t have time for more sports any more, but there was one year I watched college volleyball, and it was awesome. Then later I saw that 2-on-2 beach stuff and it seemed so lame in comparison.
That was some time in the early ‘90s, I think. I remember the two top teams were Nebraska and Stanford, but that doesn’t narrow it down much. Seems like those two are always at the top. And I did know the names of all the players on the Nebraska team.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 29, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Volleyball is one of those height-related sports where the men's game is just more interesting to watch IMO
for purely physiological reasons.
I loved watching the USA team’s run to the gold medal in Beijing last summer. Now that was a GREAT volleyball team.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 29, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watch for entirely different reasons.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 29, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
agrd.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 29, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ducks, baby
I’m gonna go to that game this Saturday, and I can’t promise I won’t wake up with 7 felony charges.
by Joey C. on Oct 29, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are my hero
I went up for the Oregon-Cal game last month, and if I could figure out a way to do it (or if I could get Phil Knight to adopt me), I would totally be there Saturday. Instead, I’ll be in SF watching it with the local alumni association chapter.
GO DUCKS!!!
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Oct 29, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to hear we've got a presence in the Bay
GO DUCKS!!
by Joey C. on Oct 30, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes
HUGE Duck presence in the Bay Area.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Oct 30, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Update:
DUCKS DESTROY TROJANS.
Just go ahead and put us in the national title game kthnxbye.
by Joey C. on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(Boise State just called.
They’re on hold. They want to speak with you about something.)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 1, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of video games getting closer to movies everyday
Left 4 Dead 2 Trailer I never played the first game but that looked awesome!
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 29, 2009 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The first L4D was pretty fantastic.
Albeit very repetetive.
It was the most fun when you managed to get like 6 or 8 buddies all on Xbox live together so you could actually talk with one another and organize. It sucked when you randomly joined a game and everybody was running all over the place shooting.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you've caught the DFA disease.
First it was his “Benecia” but now it’s spread to your “repetetive”.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 29, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, pretty much wholly.
I had it for the PC, and while it was tons of fun grabbing my roommates and other friends to blast thousands of heads off, it got a bit stale after a while. Great fun while it lasted, though.
And your dream, absolve.
And your path, dissolve.
by danmerqury on Oct 29, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is an easy one
Pro Football: Tecmo Super Bowl. It’s got everything you want in a modern football game— fumbles, substitutions, Bernie Kosar… everything.
College Football: NCAA 2010. Recruiting mode is more addictive than crack laced with yet more crack.
Basketball: NBA Jam: Tournament Edition. Have you seen Toni Kukoc dunk? Would you like to?
Baseball: Toss-up between MVP ’05 and Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball (the first one for the SNES). What the latter lacks in realism and acceptable gameplay mechanics, it makes for with Terry Steinbach.
Those, of course, are the only sports that matter.
by Joey C. on Oct 29, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NBA Jam was amazing
And they don’t have NCAA 10 for Wii, right? I really miss playing it.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vintage Games
Mad props for working Bernie Kosar into your post. I have no idea why even but I support any post with the Kos mentioned.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on Oct 29, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP 04/05
Total favs.
"Yeah, all I could find was Triple-Sec and rootbeer...What?! You mean you had tequila the whole time?!"
by talex on Oct 29, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mvp baseball 04 was awesome. My favorite all time though was Tecmo Super Bowl. one of my friends actually got me an autographed picture of Louis Oliver from the 1991 Dolphins because I used to beat him every time we played with Oliver intercepting the ball and running it back for a TD in the 4th quarter.
by VV A's fan on Oct 29, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I preferred Football 2.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 29, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pro 2 rocks. I still play sometimes.
We need a new thread for board games for the oldtimers. I want to wax on with tales of APBA.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
by JJ Martin on Oct 29, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had mine, I would too, JJ.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon, guys!
RBI Baseball, far and away the best for replay value. The controls were so easy to figure out, but you could spend a lifetime refining your game. I’ve played some EPIC battles on that game. I especially remember hitting a walkoff HR with Ozzie Smith (who has 0 HR on the season in his stats). My friend was actually speechless when I hit it.
The black game case made it even more awesome.
Also, for some great Red Sox schadenfreude
by cityplANner on Oct 29, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome
My friends and I used to play a stand up arcade version of RBI Baseball when we were in junior high/high school. Good times.
by AsFanInLA on Oct 30, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My vote goes to NHL 10
I’ve been playing that non-stop since it came out, it really is the most realistic sports game I’ve played, and its fun. Its a shame more people don’t like Hockey, because that game is AWESOME.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
by winchester5 on Oct 29, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
another vote for mvp 05 here! i play w/mods on my pc to modernize the teams/rosters and i love it
by drmmerchk on Oct 30, 2009 12:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mathematical model of zombie outbreak.
Did you see this, LB? As it turns out, the math supports conventional wisdom:
An outbreak of zombies infecting humans is likely to be disastrous, unless extremely aggressive tactics are employed against the undead. While aggressive quarantine may eradicate the infection, this is unlikely to happen in practice. A cure would only result in some humans surviving the outbreak, although they will still coexist with zombies. Only sufficiently frequent attacks, with increasing force, will result in eradication, assuming the available resources can be mustered in time.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 30, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love it when academics get irreverent.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
in the famous words of Fire Joe Morgan
Short story: 18 year old pitch tragically killed when hit by a batted ball. Family sues Louisville Slugger because baseball bats are dangerous. AND WINS
Aluminum bat maker Hillerich & Bradsby Co. failed to provide adequate warning as to the dangers of the bat used by a Helena Senators player during the game, at least eight of the 12 Lewis and Clark County jurors agreed Wednesday.
You’ve gotta be fucking kidding me.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 30, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lame
“That’s a grand slam,” Duane Patch said as he hugged one of the family’s attorneys.
Stay classy Dad.
While the Patch family doesn’t have set plans for the funds, there has been talk of putting on a wooden-bat tournament in Miles City. That American Legion team, the Mavericks, only uses wood bats now.So what happens if a wooden bat breaks and kills someone during your tournament, should they sue you?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 30, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give it, oh, 2 or 3 seasons before they switch back to metal or composite bats.
They must not realize the COST involved. One $150 bat can last a kid multiple seasons. The REALLY GOOD bats are $300.
Now they’re looking at who knows how many $80 wood bats per kid, per season?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 30, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd want to see more details on the case before
passing judgment. Some legal cases that sound outrageous when you read about them in a newspaper story turn out to be reasonable when you see the legal details.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 31, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple details from the story:
The suit made by the plaintiff also alleged that the bat was defective. The jury rejected that claim and only accepted the lesser claim that the company provided insufficient warning.
A comment by one of the jurors who voted against the plaintiff says that the jury foreman (who sided with the plaintiff) encouraged other jury members to support the insufficient-warning claim as a compromise position. (And it seems likely that the plaintiffs lawyers put that claim out there as a fallback position in case they couldn’t win on the claim of defective bat.)
Three jurors voted against the plaintiff on all counts, but state law requires only eight of twelve jurors to agree to make a ruling.
I find it interesting that officially there are no punitive damages, as there often are in corporate liability cases — though I can’t help wondering if the actual award is conceptually punitive in the minds of the jurors. The total award was $850K, of which $58K is to the parents for grief and funeral expenses. The other $792K is allotted between the kid’s lost earnings and his pain and suffering, but I haven’t found any story that shows the breakdown. (Google turns up numerous stories but they all seem to come from the same press release. None is more thorough than the one Mike linked here.)
I’d be interested in seeing how they come up with $792K. I think that’s wildly optimistic for lifetime net earnings (unless they’re counting gross earnings only and not subtracting the his “lifetime spendings”, in which case I question the logic of single-entry accounting). My guess is most of the amount is pain and suffering, which isn’t as easily quantified by accounting, making it easier to just pick the number you want.
I would speculate that the press release came from the plaintiff’s lawyers and they deliberately didn’t separate the two figures because if we saw a large amount attached pain and suffering, it would look unreasonable. The pitcher died four hours after the injury. I can’t find any story that says whether he was conscious for any of that time, but the stories from 2003 (ie, when the accident happened) say that he was motionless on the field for 20 minutes and then when they got him to the hospital he was immediately put on life support.
My intuition about such a situation is that you would have a split second to think “oh crap!” and that would be your last thought and you’d never wake up again. As fatal accidents go, it’s not a particularly gruesome one. Now maybe my intuition is totally wrong, but it’s probably what most newspaper readers would think, too, so it would be an uphill battle to defend a six-figure amount specifically for pain and suffering.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 31, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still entirely unreasonable.
Why didn’t they sue whoever made the baseball? Was there a warning on the ball that said IF THIS HITS YOU REALLY HARD YOU MIGHT BE INJURED OR DIE somewhere? After all, it was the ball that hit the kid, not the bat.
Why not sue the batter? He’s the one who hit the ball.
Why not sue American Legion? They’re the ones who let the teams play.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 31, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but I'm guessing they don't appeal.
The fact that it went to trial at all suggests to me that the family was looking for some sort of emotional validation. The award is probably not much different from what was offered in settlement anyway except that now the family gets to say they won. The company will now add warning labels (which everyone will ignore since they don’t tell us anything we didn’t already know) and business will proceed as usual.
As for your last two questions, I think you know the answer. Shallow pockets.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 31, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm at the Sharks game right now.
In section 211, last row. There’s a guy who looks like DFA right in front of me.
by LoneStranger on Oct 30, 2009 8:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
it's him.
roll him.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He kept looking up at me.
I think he was in awe of the mustache. Or it might have been the powerful smell of the buffalo bites.
Oh, and on the walk back to the car, I saw ‘that dude who yells the funny stuff during the game." I’m sorry I forgot your name! At that same moment, I saw Lady Gaga, but maybe it was SwisherThresher. Not totally sure. If I had drove myself, I would have stopped, but I didn’t.
Also, I hate going up to people when I think they are someone and find that they are not. EMBARRASSING!
by LoneStranger on Oct 30, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB '04 and '05
Hands down
Ken Griffey Baseball was by far my favorite sports game on Super Nintendo.
"If my uniform doesn't get dirty, I haven't done anything in the baseball game." - Rickey Henderson
by BillMoresi on Oct 31, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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