Open Thread: ALCS Game 2 - Teams I Hate vs. The Elements
Yesterday's forecast for Saturday in The Bronx was ominous. ("107% chance of rain ... In just a moment we'll start boarding for pairs of animals with names A-G... Right now we're pre-boarding any small puppies or kittens, any animals with 3 legs, turtles over the age of 100, and those who just need a little more time boarding -- please come to the front of the ark...")
But now they're thinking they might give it a whirl after all, as "100% chance of rain from 2:00pm-9:00pm" has turned to "well, except when it stops -- yes, weather forecasting has proven to be as reliable as predicting how J.J. Hardy will hit, where AN will rank Grant Desme, or what it really looked like when you saw, on Gameday, "In play, run(s). Matsui hits a fly ball single to 3B, Damon scores."
Now while we wait for the game to (hopefully) start, here's a free bit of advice: If you're shopping around for illnesses, may I not recommend strep throat. You may have noticed, in my comments this week, how hoarse my voice has been. All I can say, having missed an entire week of work for the first time since I can't even remember, is "Thank God for baseball!"
You know it's not good when you go to your doctor, he shines the light to the back of your throat and exclaims, "Oh my." At least when I told him it was excruciatingly painful to swallow, he did not reply, "That's what she said!" That's right: mikev is not my Primary Care Physician. My considered advice is that if you're looking to try out a new illness, you can do better than strep throat. If you look good in yellow, why not try jaundice? Or scurvy, if you're not too fond of fruits anyway.
But the point of telling you all this is not for you to feel sorry for me, it's to...it's so that...it's...No, I got nothing. I seriously hope the Yankees lose today and I'm also hoping the Angels lose. A.J. Burnett against Joe Saunders, if you really must know.
Riddle: What did Chone Figgins say to Erick Aybar on New Year's Eve?
"Hey, Erick. Want to go to New York and watch the ball drop?"
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Glad to see your sense of humor
is suffering no ill effects! I thoroughly enjoyed last nights Angel’s debacle and look forward to more of the same. Seems as though the RS are reverting to their century old losing ways a bit prematurely. Ah well, at least order has been restored in the Universe.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Oct 17, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
(finishes up this and that around house, hope to make game start)
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's working!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm strep
what’s the anti-biotic for you?
and what Co-pays does the AN health plan have – mine are killing me.
by MobiusKlein on Oct 17, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Azithramyacine
Yummy.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allergic to . . .
Penicillin?
"Get heavy!" - Kotsay
by OaklandInvader on Oct 17, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, my doctor just felt this would be a better choice
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hello Mr. Streptastic
I had it many times, and once it even became mononucleosis!! Liver damage and I didn’t even get any nookie like you’re supposed to to get that… WTF? I am owed nookie.
Let’s watch the ball drop, good one, I LOLed all over my lunch here. How come the Sleglets never clam 3 errors vs. us? I mean a sulk-off gift once every few years isn’t enough, I want full on Bad News Halos material, you listening Johnny Mathis?
Although I will say that reading HH when those guys lose is priceless, like I feel I should be paying the Rev for the laughs. Whatevs, Revs, you’ll get ’em tonight with the Colonel.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you learn something every day
I’m watching the Fox TV broadcast. One of the announcers explained that the radar gun marks the speed at which the baseball leaves the pitcher’s hand, not the speed at which it reaches the plate….for example, the Yanks’ starter threw a ball clocked at 93 mph, but by the time it crossed the plate it was at 86 mph.
Anyway, I’m just glad any baseball is on TV — I spent all day working.
by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can confirm that with the Pitchf/x stuff.
It measures two speeds per pitch—start and end. They seem to lose 8-10 mph along the way to the plate.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smack.
Quiet in here- here- here.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm following in gameday
Was that 3B by Cano another Toriifaiil?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday as well, sorry.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
vid up.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like "no"
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Cano looks like he's about to going scuba diving.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there goes figgins and there goes a fly ball
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey!
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pow
God I hate Jeter, but it breaks the yawn- fest.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Jeter is a handsome, handsome man.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But Damon has that precambrian charm


'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ew.
how can you bring yourself to type such things?
by whiteshoes40 on Oct 17, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I despise him, so it's easy.
don’t ask.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Damon with a hit.
Hey, Johnny, isn’t Jeter handsome?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's under a rock?!
"Get heavy!" - Kotsay
by OaklandInvader on Oct 17, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My mother just called me to tell me that she thinks Swisher is handsome
I think she’d fit in fine here.
by stormtown on Oct 17, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends.
What’s her opinion on Travis Buck?
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good field but no bat
injury prone but nice head of hair.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on Oct 17, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're mom's a scout?!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mom dosen't know a bean ball
from a Billy Beane. She hates the Giants because Barry Bonds is a cheating bastard. My dad is a Giants fan…so you see how this plays out…
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on Oct 17, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with your mom.
I mean…um…
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of these close plays are going against the angels. My family is pissed.
by drmmerchk on Oct 17, 2009 6:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Mighty lively game thread going on here.
Ahem.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont tell me the Yanks are going to the Series...
Not looking good.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Dodgers, then?
Or Phillies? Or that swarm of locusts?
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would have loved a Rockies/ Twins
But anything but Jeter pls.
Glad Boston’s gone though.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I logged on just to say that I hate Derek Jeter
he owes so many HRs to the short porch in right field.
Fark theYankees!
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Woot!
314 is a joke.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like 911
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JETER HIT ONE 911 FEET????
I’m not at all surprised.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't decide what to have for dinner
pizaa maybe?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well last weekend I couldn't decide and I didn't have pizza
and LB chastised me. So I’d get pizza if I were you.
by stormtown on Oct 17, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I don’t want LB to chastise me so I guess I will have pizza.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(smiles down upon AN)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always a hit.
Next comes the burger.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Action!
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Angels score
nice
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel so dirty rooting for the Angels.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I don't hate them
but I don’t like them either.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Morales-
I’m pretty meh on everyone else.
I miss pants-ing them.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
34HR/ 108RBI nice.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
but the yankees need to lose
by OakA'sHoney on Oct 17, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oof bad move.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Halos need to wake the F up here
Tired of Yankees being only team in these games so far.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so it's taken me a bit to decide,
but I think I’m rooting for the Angels.
And if I gotta root for my nemesis, I’m rooting for what just happened—lots and lots of HBPs.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks like abreu is laughing everytime he talks a ball
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hello ball.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
feel better nico
p.s. hoarse voices are sexy
by OakA'sHoney on Oct 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Battle
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap...
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
crap
how did the runners not tag up?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Base hit base hit base hit, c'mon.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so why was the ball dead?
cuz it went in the stands?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Yankees.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this inning is taking forever
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh!
Tied!
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes!
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still hate the Yankees.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This

'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that bring me joy.
thank you.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tie game
Burnett trying to set the record for wild pitches in this game
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and Tim McCarver keeps his job for another five years
people still think he’s some kind of genius for calling that bloop off Rivera in 2001.
by stormtown on Oct 17, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That has to be the first time ever that
Tim McCarver and genius were so close.
At least in football, the despised Joe Buck is tempered by the dullard Troy Aikman. McCarver makes me want to hear the other one talk, then Joe Buck talks and I want the other one to talk, then McCarver talks and I want them both to die slowly.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor doggie, can't sleep.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
peace out for now guys
going to Trader Joes to get Humus and pita chips for a pot-luck tomorrow.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question: Had Figgins swung at the pitch that hit him,
is the ball dead, Figgins out and Aybar can’t advance? (As opposed to Figgins being able to run to 1B on the wild third strike, and Aybar being allowed to go to 3B.)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think so.
I think he’s out and Aybar cannot advance. It’s a dead ball.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vlad .262 RISP 2009
Matthews .358
Kendricks .320
What gives?
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he's been hurt and old all year.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No good.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter Fail, YAY!
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
more like an ump fail
but yay!!
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUGE!
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No video.
What happened?
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 6:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Struck out Damen w/ a runner at third two outs. ;)
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TY
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 7:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody listening to the radio?
Are you sick to death of Jon miller calling molina " bengie". That. Is. Not. His. Name!!!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 6:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Jon Miller's on the radio?!
That would be so preferable to these two ASS HATS. Jesus, I hate Joe Buck. Despise him. I hate the announcers. I hate both these teams. WTF am I watching this?!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the call - but just don't get why he can't get the name right@
Bad part of the radio feed – Joe Morgan
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Joe Morgan is with him
boo!
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quietly not mentioned:
Jeter with two atrocious throws (saved by Teixeira) to go with a clutch 1-6-3 DP. By the way, Saunders, any time you want to get rid of the ball to Aybar…Really, anytime.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course not.
He IS the saint of the post season after all
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 6:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I also realized ARoid is batting so well because its actually still Sept as he missed all of April.
Lets hope it ends soon.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going to watch the last few out of the house, night all.
'Well, there's just something wrong with the A's ya know, I mean come on...'- Girlfriend
by brian.only on Oct 17, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
damn, it's tied. focus focus focus
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ca-YES!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello all
I just watched Campy, Blue Moon, Vida, Gaylord Perry, and Bill “Spaceman” Lee from a front row seat in San Jose Municipal Stadium. So this is a bit of a comedown. but still glad to be here with all of you.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and the occasion was?
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope it wasn't a out-of-town preview of the Oakland Ballet's production of The Nutcracker...
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The inaugural MLB Legends Vintage Base Ball game
The “Legends” played one of the local vintage base ball teams, the Santa Clara Stogies, according to 1886 rules and in vintage-style uniforms. The score after the first inning was Stogies 11, Legends 0, but after the Stogies substituted a less good pitcher in what appeared to be a possible contrivance, the final was Legends 16, Stogies 15. Lots of fun.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JLaff was there and will have some excellent pics, and I'll have some lousy ones
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's SO COOL you got ot go!
I’m excited to see photos.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the first annual (assuming this went well)
So maybe by next October you’ll be back here, LB!
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't it a fundraiser of some kind?
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, for kids' sports clinics
I think it’s going to be on ESPN at some point too.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were the fielders allowed to soak baserunners?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Kent, running between second and third, took the opportunity to kick the ball into the outfield
One of the Stogies stole first and second — as in, picked up the bags and ran away to third with them.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...I had no idea this was today
I had to work, so just as well…sounds great!
by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they did a great job promoting it
Stadium was only 2/3 full.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spaceman was in town
and no one called me?
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on Oct 17, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't on the list of players they expected
But he was great — pitched the first inning, giving up the 11 runs, and then played second base for the rest of the game. Also came in as a pinch-runner for Vince Coleman, who pulled a hammie.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have liked to see
Bake McBride throw a frozen rope to Dick Green after chasing down a Jay Johnstone Texas Leaguer.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on Oct 17, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nico, that question about a swinging strike 3 on a HBP?
I’d be surprised if that’s never happened to Vlad.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Vlad has aged about 5 years since the start of the season.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice pitch
why does Joba have Yayo all over his ballcap?
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on Oct 17, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Due credit: That play (decision) Jeter made on Hunter's chopper
is exactly what Crosby didn’t do, and needed to do, in that fateful 9th inning vs. LAA the day before the ASB 2 years ago (when Aybar scored from second).
Conclusion: Derek Jeter is better than Bobby Crosby.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well except for THAT play
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
granted
David Crosby would make better decisions than Bobby, and that’s loaded on dangerous psychedelic drugs.
Jeter sure clammed that one there though. Maybe ESPN can CGI it so he got the DP and saved a stranded puppy simultaneously.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had the choice of sending up, as a pinch hitter in a key situation,
Bobby Crosby, or David Crosby’s liver, I’d opt for the latter.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave's liver
has to lay off the slider away, it’s too old and slow so it just takes those.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it really can't handle Bailey
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember that pitcher Jung Keun Bong?
Dave hits that guy righteously, every time.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It's got to be an error on Derek Jeter"
I’m sorry, I don’t understand how those words can exist in the same sentence.
Is it some kind of baseball koan?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 7:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Those who koan do
Those who koan’t, teach.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovely "E" by St. Derek
as for the TV commentary that Gary Matthews has “evolved into a high priced bench player”
sounds more like DE-volution to me.
by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you saw the at bat...
Ew. Just, ew.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did see it
apparently, I saw more of it than Matthews
by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is just me, but I say
“Go ahead and swing at the fastball down the middle.”
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are not men
We Are DEVO
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
by BleedGreen on Oct 17, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some unhappiness over at Halos Heaven
they wanted Kendrick (kills the Yankees) and not GMJ to hit for Napoli, or no pinch hitter at all. Now they are stuck with Johnny Mathis catching and they hate that.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so chances are....
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I was thinking more about their nuts roasting on an open fire, but yours is better.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh, and the hala haven gang felt as helpless as a kitten up a tree too.
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter. LOL.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If it weren't for the HR, he'd be having kind of a Crosby-level sucky day.
And I mean Blake.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck says that Jepsen is a rookie with "electric stuff"

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
imagine my disconcerted reaction
when 1050 AM went to the Warriors’ pre-season game in the middle of this ALCS game, I was a li’l confused until I shifted to 680.
Now, someone needs to do something about Joe Morgan, he makes Vince Cotroneo sound like Ernie Harwell.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fire Joe Morgan NOW!!!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's also on 1440 AM
at least in Novato, CA
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
take a picture, Abreu
it’ll last longer
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Scioscia should go to Fuentes here
If it goes extras, the Yanks don’t have Rivera so it’s not as brutal not to have your closer, you have the heart of the order coming up, and you really want Teixeira batting RH. Darren Oliver makes sense, too, but in an inning where if you give up one run you’re down 2-0 in the series, I opt for my closer.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dunno
I hear ya but Jepsen looked tough in the 8th, threw no pitches and the Yankees haven’t seen much of him. I don’t imagine Tex & A-Rod & Godzilla have any lack of familiarity with Fuentes.
If you hold back Fuentes here and Jepsen gets the Yanks out, they have him to close out the bottom of an extra inning and Mo Rivera is nowhere to be seen, he’s gone from the game.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
although again
Rivera only threw 13 pitches to his batters in the 8th & 9th, so the Angels will see him in any 10th inning anyway, hmmm.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see Mariano
walk off the diamond after making the LAAAA 1-2-3 hitters look like 5 year olds?
HEAD STRAIGHT DOWN.
Thanks that d-bag K-rod, we’ve forgotten how fucking awesome the emotionless closer is.
by PL78 on Oct 17, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so true
Rivera can save the 7th game of the WS and not go through 1/1000th of the BS histrionix K-Clod goes through when he saves a meaningless regular season game.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish that would rub off on Jaba the Fat
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why you cant hate on Rivera. Class act all the time.
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. He's one of the least contemptable Yankees in the bunch.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was actually an outstanding play by Mathis
Plenty of opportunity for confusion between him and Jepsen or for panic. Well done.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yep Jon Miller
was very impressed with Mathis (a former shortstop in addition to being a somewhat-effeminate 1960s crooner) on that play, it didn’t sound routine.
I bet the HH patrons over there almost peed themselves as that play happened LOL
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was close
more baseball!
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vlad, up without the chance to strand 3 more runners!
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else listen to the team talk shit on the Fielding Bible?
They were trying to say Jeter was outstanding defensively despite “what some people” put forward a few years ago….meaning Dewan and his people and that incredible essay he wrote about Jeter’s D.
The comment “I dont know any manager who wouldnt want Jeter at SS handling the ball in a playoff game”…
Then…like clockwork…Jeter blows the double play ball. Brilliant.
by PL78 on Oct 17, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice one Vlad
why couldn’t you do that with runners on base?
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I find myself actively rooting for the Slegs
in this game, such is my overwhelming hatred of the Bronx Beetches.
Bad, I know.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have the same problem in reverse
I actually heard myself saying “Come on, Derek, just a little hit!”.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT HAVE WE BECOME??!??
[[facepalm]]
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever loses, the schadenfreude will be sweet
Almost takes the suspense out of the game, actually.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, there is the schadenfraude
It’s a toss up: get to peruse the Hieronymous Bosch painting that is Halos Heaven when the Slegs lose a big game, or watching ESPN struggle to find a way to proclaim Derek Jeter the greatest man ever to breathe air even tho the Yankees lost the game.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
I feel so goddamn dirty, rooting for Slegathor.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh this thread is gross
I cannot fathom why A’s fans would hate the Yankees more than the Angels.
by PL78 on Oct 17, 2009 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was born and raised in NYC
that’s my only excuse
[[hangs head]]
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have any particular reason to hate the Angels
in a field of teams that doesn’t include the A’s. I have every reason to hate the Yankees, and what they stand for, no matter what.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As baseball fans,
we have a sworn duty to hate on the Yankees at all possible times.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1110000000000000000000000000000000
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, let's see.
The Yankees represent everything that’s wrong with baseball right now and pretty clearly represent the antithesis to small market. They seem to think that it’s their birthright to sign every big league free agent that comes down the pike. Their salary is regularly three times our salary and has been for a solid 10-12 years now.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Except you left out "and everything that's wrong with America."
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+∞
And rec’d.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when they sign Eric Chavez to a hideous contract,
they eat it and go buy the next available free agent OR talented player from the Kansas City/Pittsburgh two-tiered caste system the Yankees have perpetuated through their greed and avarice. When we sign Eric to the same contract, we pay painfully for three years.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well what about when the Angels owner says outright
“I want my team to be seen like the Yankees, I want to be the Yankees of the west?”
more despicable, imo.
by PL78 on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but they aren't yet
they couldn’t resign Tex.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When was this??
He is under the mistaken impression that that is a GOOD thing…
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh, Jeff? WFT was that?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ARod was obviously not playing way back
or he wouldn’t have almost collided with Rivera. If he’d been conceding a bunt single, then it’s fine. But unless Mathis lays down a perfect bunt, he’s just sacrificing the runner to 2nd with 2 out and Izturis up next. Bizarre.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These fuckheads taking baserunning lessons from the A's?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it's very annoying
is it the cold weather? I want the Angels to play like this, bunting shit up in the air and all this, when we play them.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they've been playing small ball for about seven years now.
You’d think they could lay a bunt down without popping it up twenty feet.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi! Good game, huh?
Heart in throat in the bottom of the ninth.
I find myself, after much reflection but now somewhat spontaneously, rooting for the Angels. Not that I care so much who wins, but beating the Yankees is obviously a very difficult thing to do, and I think I would root for anyone to try to win against them. (See my “always root for the underdog” post from a few days ago.)
by paris7 on Oct 17, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was you!
Yes, I like that plan very much.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting against both
I cheer when the Yankees are humiliated, and I cheer when the slegnA are humliated.
Can’t lose this way…
by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the spirit!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked up from the computer screen,
saw an Angel watch a ball drop for a single, and started to cheer inside before realizing my mistake. I’m so conditioned to root against Slegna that I can’t help myself.
Boo.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Safe at second? What the hell?
That’s right there.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There's the neighborhood play issue again, just like with Ellis towards the end of the season
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and here's a nother good reason to hate the Yankees.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Umps on the payroll, along with everyone else?
by paris7 on Oct 17, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps not, but WTF?!
WHY on god’s green earth do you wait until the bottom of the 10th to start being a stickler about that?!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was way closer to the bag than ELlie when he got THAT call from the umps.....
are you serious?? You either have to do it ALL the time or none of the time. Not just when it might be a critical play in a close game…..
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But honestly
Either give them the ‘in the neighborhood’ play every time or none of the time. None of this ‘well, I won’t call it this time’ crap.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clearly in the rules.
Not that umps fault that the others dont pay attention. If someone missed homeplate, then everyone would care.
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And if they're calling it all night and then don't there?
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They weren't.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay,
then call it in the third when he did the exact same thing. And the fifth, and the sixth and the eighth and the ninth.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right?
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to McCarver, the SS or 2B has been on the bag for every other DP this game.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's wrong.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He claims that their production people just checked the replays
I mean, someone could be utterly wrong or just lying, but I don’t have the replays in front of me and I wasn’t watching that carefully before, so I can’t say that he’s wrong.
Maybe they’ll show us the replays so we can see for ourselves.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to McCarver
Rickey Henderson is the 3rd best basestealer of all time behind Lou Brock and… Carl Crawford.
If my life depended on the veracity of the statements of Tim McCarver, I would have died years ago watching him attempting to call the Mets games for WOR-TV in 1986
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think I'd ever say this...but I love you.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
awwwwwz
yer not so bad yerself, Bloom [[hug]]
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate McCarver too
but read my comment above.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
missed most the game. however, it is the rule. whatever discretion the umpire uses is in question.
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the reason for the neighborhood play
Runners are allowed to attack the player turning the DP — essentially, to try to break his legs by barreling into him. As long as a runner slides in such a way that some part of his body can touch the bag, umps have no problem.
If you’re going to let runners do that, you need to let SSs and 2Bs protect themselves by staying a short way off the bag. The only alternative is to have 2Bs start throwing the ball as hard as they can right in the face of a runner or 2 to deter them. Which seems like an undesirable outcome.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. He's behind the bag, where he has more time to get out of Cabrera's way when he tries to take him out with a hard slide
With his feet spread wider than the base itself, it’s much harder for a hard slide to hit him squarely in the leg and destroy his knee.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he was right near the bag
His footwork was off and timing was off. Better off sliding out but he milked the time he had to make the throw.
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Infielders do this ALL the time and you only ever see it called out a small fraction of the time
I don’t like the neighborhood rule but I understand it’s allowed as a way of protecting the infielder a little bit from a hard slide.
The problem is when the umpire chooses not to allow it.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been taken out plenty of times, but I take it to make a solid throw. Aybar had plenty of time to slide out, step on the bag and move back or even step through the bag and jump after throwing.
And btw, umps never ever call the rule for a slide that cant touch 2nd. I’ve had my share of arguments on that.
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen the slide called
at least a half dozen times in the last 10+ years.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen it called as well, definitely
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not very good.
Reminds me of Kendall’s dirty slides. Spikes up, legs up.
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees get it handed to them on a neighborhood play?
In the playoffs?
This is sad.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"It's not a call on which a game of this importance should turn."
I love listening to the radio announcers.
by paris7 on Oct 17, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
But if you NEVER touch the base, you should never get the out. You have to at least prove that you can be touching the base before the neighborhood play should be given. That’s assuming you believe it should ever be given, which I don’t, but you still need to touch the base.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
just be consistent with the call.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was
In the other chances, he did actually touch the base. Dumbass even confirmed it.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you and I are watching different games, then.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't particularly care either way
But my personal feeling is, yes, be consistent. But if the SS doesn’t touch the base to prove the point, before playing off the bag, really, what possible argument does he have? Oh, I was “close enough”. To me, that’s just lazy. You don’t have to stand there like a dope and take it in the back from the runner, but you do have to put in the effort.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
Then make the point in the first or second inning, not the bottom of the 9th of a tie game.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're assuming that he never touch the bag on those plays too.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not just talking about this game, though
It’s in general. Basically the neighborhood play leaves too much leeway in the eyes of the umpire to decide whether or not he’s close enough, with his judgment the only real factor. Is a foot enough for one? Half a foot for another?
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh absolutely
I get the rule, but I hate it too. It shouldn’t be a discretion call, but an actual, spelled out rule IF they’re actually going to allow it. But they shouldn’t. They don’t do anything like that for a catcher. They don’t do it in any form to protect the runner either. It’s an at-risk play.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the fact that Joe Buck and McCarver are on my side,
that I’m thinking of admitting I’m wrong and joining DMOAS and Nick on this one.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it does kind of leave one feeling filthy
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Bottom of the 10th in this case)
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of like a referee making a statement in a game (like soccer) to be sure the teams
play cleanly. Games have a way of getting out of hand if the tone is not set early (see also substitute teacher).
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK that's enough of those analogies, young lady.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I thought McCarver is never right about anything
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCarver no
But their crew is the one who actually re-watched it.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see the replays of the rest first
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, me too.
If they can pull them up AND spend countless minutes over judging the umpire’s “wrong” calls in super dooper slow-mo. Then they sure as hell better prove the point when the umps are correct. Plus it makes for a better viewing experience.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see it because I didn't see all of the others
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup.
and not trust the Fox “crew” who may have a rooting interest.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 17, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'd better watch out for the internet people who like to put shit like that on the interwebs.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my, Johnny Damon.
That was horrible.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tex for all the marbles
one of the toughest outs alive, yikes.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
omgihatethemotherf'ingyankees
just had to get that off my chest
by OakA'sHoney on Oct 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it the camera or is it pouring pretty decently out there?
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Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All right, Tex, how about hitting it out of the park here!
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by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 8:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OMIGOD I am rooting for Darren Oliver
what have I become???
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If K-Rod was still with the team,
I’d truly be at a loss.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he was
I couldn’t do it, not even with the poor dead kid Adenhart and that whole thing.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a Yankee hater
just like me.
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;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
I grew up in Queens a Met fan, my only hope of an excuse.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me, the reason it was a bad call at 2B
is underscored by the fact that a good ump is one you don’t notice. If Lane calls the out at 2B, Girardi doesn’t even argue, end of story. The neighborhood exists precisely for DP balls with runners coming in.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, I agree
It’s also raining pretty hard, and a collision could really affect the outcome of the series too. I am fine with calling it but you can’t call it in the 10th and not the previous innings.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In related news
the NBA has officially decided to allow travelling.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Intersting that they formalized this...
Does it mean they’ll now allow three steps? That’s not mentioned in the article.
Ha ha, but what is mentioned is this: Walt Frazier says,""Those few years when the Knicks were good [the early 1990s] — that wasn’t pretty basketball."
That was my favorite Knick team. Not so pretty, but they got the job done. Almost.
by paris7 on Oct 17, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah -- if the rule says "2 steps" does that REALLY mean 3?
They probably just need to make the court a good deal bigger. Back when they set all the dimensions, players were way smaller than they are now.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope they can count to 2!!
I can see a Monty Python-ish joke here. And ye shall count to three – neither one nor four….etc
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO one expects the Basketball Association!
Our chief weapon is traveling…traveling and dunks…dunks and traveling…
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahhaha.................
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good AB there
Now let’s see some Angels small ball.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there you go
now, can you tell them to score
by OakA'sHoney on Oct 17, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Score, you Angel bastids!
@worldblee on Twitter.
by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Hughes pitched yet?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah I think he pitched in the 8th, right?
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
i think
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL at that being a strike
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does the ump realize how tall Chone is?
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if that's a strike on Randy Johnson
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL at Scioscia mouthing "well shit!" in the dugout.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang I missed THAT
had to get my internet up an running again – instead of bogarting my neighbors crappy signal
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha.
Did they get wise and put a password on it?
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope I was using it b/c I didn't want to go up in the middle of the exciting part of the game
but I had to anyway. Their signal is terrible and fAdes in and out.
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-2 pitch looked borderline to me
Ahem.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I had a good feeling about Chone's prospects there
@worldblee on Twitter.
by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, a not good feeling about Johnny Damon's arm
He makes rubber band arms look like cannons.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon's arm
makes the kid who threw out the first pitch from the Cancer Foundation look like Roberto Clemente.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon's arm makes Barry Bonds look like he has a cannon
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon's arm is so unthreatening it makes Ronald McDonald look like John Wayne Gacy.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wayne Brady makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a legendary skit for very, very good reason.
I love Wayne Brady.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything about that skit was awesome
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
the best 9 minutes of TV comedy in this decade.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon's arm is so weak
That when he warms up between innings, he can’t reach the guy in the bullpen so he has to throw the ball back and forth to himself.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At home
he has the fans help by throwing it for him. Occasionally it’s embarrassing since he sometimes can’t get it over the wall.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIGGINS

that was SO THOROUGHLY panther I cannot tell you.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he actually touched home plate.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He was in the vicinity
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was in the neighborhood
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neighborhood run then.....
Let’s get a petition going to change the rules
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, the equivalent at the plate
might be the catcher holding the ball with his bare hand inside his mitt, and tagging a runner with his mitt. Technically, I’m not sure that’s a legitimate tag, but nobody bothers about it. And that’s not even a safety issue.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, here's the definition of a "tag"
A TAG is the action of a fielder in touching a base with his body while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove; or touching a runner with the ball, or with his hand or glove holding the ball, while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove.
The way I see it, if a catcher is holding the ball in his right hand, which is inside his mitt, and touches the runner with the mitt, that’s not a tag. But it’s called a tag, every single time.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the catcher is holding the ball inside the mitt to guard against it being knocked loose on a collision...
…or slide into the glove. There’s definitely a reason for that.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there's a reason for the 2B not to stand right on the base on a DP
My point is that the neighborhood play isn’t the only situation in which umps don’t follow the rules to the letter of the law. Technically, if you’re holding the ball in your bare hand you need to tag the runner with the bare hand to record an out.
The main issues are predictability and consistency.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is that not following the description of
“with his hand or glove holding the ball, while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove”?
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's talking about one or the other and not both at once
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's not touching the runner
with “his hand or glove holding the ball”. The hand holding the ball is inside the glove, and he’s touching the runner with the glove (which isn’t holding the ball). The rule doesn’t say that’s an out.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if the hand and the ball are in the glove it's considered together, not separate
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know umps consider it that way
the same way that umps consider being in the neighborhood of 2B on a DP to be an out. But the rule clearly defines a tag as touching a runner with the hand/glove that’s holding the ball (unless there’s some other, special rule for plays at the plate or something, but I haven’t found one like that).
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I've understood it there's never been a question about the ball being held with both hands
The contact is being made with both hands and the ball secured in them. No real question about that.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not talking about holding the ball in the mitt
and putting your bare hand on the ball. I’m talking about actually holding the ball with the bare hand, and cradling that hand in the catcher’s mitt, which also happens. And technically, according to this rule, that’s just not a legal tag.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't say I've seen any plays close enough to tell just how often that actually happens
Are you saying the hand holding the ball cradled in the mitt isn’t actually touching the mitt?
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it's touching the mitt
but the rule doesn’t mention a Russian doll method of tagging a runner. It’s very, very specific that you have to tag a runner with the hand/glove that is holding the ball. If the glove isn’t holding the ball, you can’t tag with the glove.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the glove IS holding the ball AND the hand.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The glove is not holding or controlling the ball
The glove/mitt isn’t securing the ball — it’s shielding the hand (which is holding the ball) so that the collision with the runner doesn’t knock the ball loose.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the glove is controlling the hand controlling the ball
the glove is logically controlling the ball. If, in this position, your glove moves one way, both the hand AND the ball move that way too.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But there are instances probably when the ball is in the hand NOT in the mitt
and then the tag would ahve to be with the bare hand – right?
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
If the ball is held by the bare hand inside the mitt, it is not in question as to whether it’s an out or not.
If it’s not a force play you can’t tag someone with an empty mitt while holding the ball in your bare hand.
Here’s an example of the latter:

Incidentally, I took this one of the same play:
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
That’s really bad if he actually thought he was making the play.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's even better is Art Howe argued the call
But it was right after the play and I’m sure he was convinced by his catcher (Vance Wilson if I remember right) that it was a tag.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the ball is in the hand but the hand is not in the glove
you have to tag with the hand, not the glove.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TY - just wanted to be sure I was interpreting the discussion correctly
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, then I disagree with your interpretation of the rule
Because if the one you’re going by is what you quoted a few comments up, it does not make clear that you can’t tag someone with the ball in both your hand and the glove together. It seems like you’re reading it like it has to be with either the glove or the hand, but not both. I don’t think that’s the rule unless there’s something I’m missing.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an okay example

If the catcher here end up tagging the runner with his right hand, it’s an out.
If he tags the runner with just the (empty) mitt, it’s not a tag.
But if he puts his right hand (holding the ball) inside the mitt, and makes a two-handed “tag” before the runner touches home, the ump will call him out.
And I’m saying the rule technically says that that’s not a tag, because the right hand is the one that’s actually holding the ball.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see where that could open it up to some questioning
That’s a lunging tag and could result in not keeping both hands firmly together compared to a bracing type of tag where you’re holding your position.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or are you talking about the hand around the ball and the hand basically punched into the pocket of the mitt?
Because that’s a legal play as far as I understand it.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's what I'm talking about
And my point is that a) everyone knows that that’s a legitimate tag, and no runner or manager would argue about that; and b) according to the rule itself, it’s actually not a tag.
That’s why I said that this was the home-plate equivalent of the neighborhood play — it doesn’t follow the letter of the rules, but everyone accepts that it’s legit.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even being held by the hand
the ball is touching the glove, it’s a case of within, within.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's held in the mitt it should be legit.
I actually saw a game between the Mets and Royals in KC end on a play similar to that where the catcher had the ball in his bare hand, tagged the runner with the empty mitt (runner may have been safe anyway) and it was called safe. Right away I knew it wasn’t a legal tag but it seemed the catcher didn’t understand it.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as the ball is firmly in the glove while the tag is made
even if it’s being secured even firmerly by the hand, to me that’s a tag. It’s technically within the confines of the glove. The whole empty glove thing, if you play baseball you really should know better.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you play baseball you also know
that being close to 2B counts on a DP, too.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've found in playing baseball
that it’s the umpire’s discretion for the neighborhood play and you’d better touch the stupid base.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's call was different from the neighborhood play
Aybar never touched the bag to begin with
by Future Ed on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll laugh if Hunter homers
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad he didn't
because then I would be playing video games right now instead of watching this.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could be playing video games though
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would miss you guys too much
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ♥ this
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aww.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it feels really wrong cheering for the angels
i’ll need to take a shower after this game
by OakA'sHoney on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why I wanted Fuentes for the 9th
Just get past Rivera and the Angels have a good shot.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but Jepsen got them out
and now the Slegs have Fuentes for the last inning, no?
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you really want Fuentes out there?
against Arod
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup -- it works out well for the Angels,
but only because the winning run got to 3B, not home, in that inning.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it barely worked out, but it did
not that I am Mr.Faith-and-Assurance in Fuentes anyway, he isn’t all that awesome, IMO.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yankees fans still cheering
impressive. it helps know their offense is good but still.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Note -- coming up for the Yankees it's
A-Rod
Matsui Guzman
Swisher Gardner
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate A-Rod
1 more reason to hate the yanks.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Derek Jeter
Reason #2.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should be #1
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furking slegnA will be extra happy if they win this since they get
to face Andy Pettitte next game which is advantage slegnA
by Trainman on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on, A-Rod, just a little poke now, son
ARGH! Stop me!
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by Englishmajor on Oct 17, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
quiet you!
:-)
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not a "high strike."
The one to Figgins was.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuailtes
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Groan
Not A-Fraud.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate that ballpark and that team
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh jeebus
That porch is so short, my grandma could hit it out of there, oh fuckaliciousness.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I want this ame to be over!
314 ft my a#&
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One (ONLY ONE) good thing about that:
People are going to hopefully shut up about A-Rod in October.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Please they won't stop talking about how "clutch" he is in October.
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by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That didn't even look like that good a swing
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, it really didn't. It was pretty poor contact, actually.
You got to hand it to A-Rod. He has the power to fist those over the wall.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
314 ft to the wall
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh geez.
314? Never mind, then.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
granted it wasn't hit in the corner
but if it starts that short it makes the rest of the wall closer right? maybe just a sharper angle to CF
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the corner it's 314
or 311. I can’t remember which foul pole is closer.
Yankee Stadium used to be 385 to the RF power alley. I’m not sure what it is now. This season, there’s been some kind of jet stream to RF, though at this time of year the ball isn’t carrying.
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They say the dimensions are exactly the same but that jet stream makes it play so much different
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there's a hitters' jet stream
when it’s 42 degrees and raining in October, though.
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's really weather-related
I mean, this kind of stuff was happening back in April too.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the ball hasn't been flying out of there this postseason
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were 2 HRs in their first game against the Twins
And 2 more in the second one.
None in the first against the Angels, but 2 more tonight.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is the jet stream warm air only?
or is it just the way the wind blows and travels through the ballpark?
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The latter in this case
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gameday says
314 RF (385 PA)
318 LF (399 PA)
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he didn't hit it down the line
To get from 314 to 385 in the power alley, it’s getting deeper at a pretty fast rate. That wasn’t like hitting the Pesky Pole in Fenway.
The power alleys in the Coliseum are nearly 20 feet closer to the plate (367, IIRC), though the wall is higher, of course.
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I said something to that fact later on above. It still looks a lot closer on the gameday picture.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much every other ballpark, that's a routine out
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the Sleggles lose this game
Halos Heaven is gonna be something else tonight, oh man to see the inner TV screen of Rev Halofan right now, OMFG.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I've already seen that ball go over the wall a dozen times
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what a joke
I hate this team
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Folks, ARod is exactly who should hit that HR
For years and years Yankee fans have been pissing and moaning about how ARod “isn’t a True Yankee” and how he’s a choker and isn’t worthy to hold Jeter’s jock, blah blah blah.
Nothing will be funnier than hearing those same idiots talk about what a clutch player he is.
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
isnt that the 2nd game trying HR this postseason?
by Glomar on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be more enjoyable to listen to them continue to bitch
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And getting to rub it in Angels fans' faces.
“You got destroyed by…mr. shitty october?!”
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. This is a perfect scenario for me.
1. The Yankees don’t deserve Alex Rodriguez.
2. The game is lasting longer and longer and both teams will be tired.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're gonna reply that cheap piece of shite HR
like it was 500 feet for the rest of time, OMG come on Angels come back and win!!!
Did I just say that? OMG I feel like American Werewolf In London, aaaaarrrrrrrghhhhh run away!!!!!
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this is tough...
… it’s ok to root against the Yanks, but to have to root THIS DAMN HARD is pretty tough, against the grain.
by paris7 on Oct 17, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is loving this crap
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it's tied??? good gravy
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by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That ultra-high FPS shot from the side with the rain slowly falling down
is actually pretty cool, FOX.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuentes had to know the Yankees had two pinch runners
batting after a homerun king. And he throws a high fastball 0-2? Unreal.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't believe he didn't at least try to throw junk one or two pitches and get him to chase
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has a good (at least it looked OK to the next batter) curveball
where was that? Pitch calling FAIL by catcher?
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a very good changeup, which is what Guzman kept flailing at
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just visited Halos Heaven
and if you had a dime for every “FUCK” you could buy the internet.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a lot of dimes.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just one for me thx.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or in real life, I could have a stick of gum.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Fraud error coming up
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a very nice slider.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much farther ARod can throw the ball than AK
100 feet? 150?
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Jeter made a routine play look tough."
“Jeter made a routine play look tough.”
“Jeter made a routine play look tough.”
“Jeter made a routine play look tough.”
“Jeter made a routine play look tough.”
“Jeter made a routine play look tough.”
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Jeter made a tough play look routine."
I think that’s what I’m used to.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here comes Johnny Mathis

poor Angel fans, imagine if this guy was your backup catcher.
Thank the Lord for Landon Powell.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He looks good in...that color..
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he wears a silly grin
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by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That iPhone commercial just made me realize that Dana Carvey is still alive.
Huh.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JOn Miller just said
that the Yannkees are down to starters and… wait for it…
Chad Gaudin!
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chad!!!
He looks so lonely in there.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the yankees have a heated waiting area for the bullpen?
that is weak sauce. (I’m sure the opposing team has the same room?)
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
except it’s the bathroom behind section 132, where Mick the Prick’s season tickets are.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you calling me a prick?
;-)
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no this is another Mick
he sits next to Guido the Loon in section 132 there.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is still warmer than being outside
but having AC seems almost worse to me (in the summer).
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankee fans
SHUT UP. That ball was way outside.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gary Matthews, Jr is SO GOOD AT BASEBALL.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well does get paid alot to play
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laugh every time I see that contract.
Five years, $50MM.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
prays that the Angels get through this inning
just so we can behold Chad Gaudin in the next one.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing Robertson gets another inning before they'd consider Chad
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They totally wish they had Dan Giese back right now
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thing the Angels don't have him
otherwise the game would be over on a walk off HR.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet the Angels wished they have Gio Gonzalez.
He could pitch 140 pitches from the 10th inning all the way to the 12th.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a shock
He was in AAA the following Monday after that Seattle game
by hishnik on Oct 17, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised he wasn't in the emergency room.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a nice bonus
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CGI pandas.
Um…huh.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
McCarver came so close to an on-air nose pick right there
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he was in the neighborhood, definitely
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teehee.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said he was out in the hall too, talking to some guys
heck, he wast taking a whiz.
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by ak_A on Oct 17, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow so Ervin Santana
too bad the Yankees aren’t us, he could get 54 outs in a row.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Angels don't call the ball.....that would have been a tough one to get.
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh noes
more classic “I got it! You take it!” crappy D from the Slegs, yucks.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like Izturis could have been there.
Instead, Abreu came streaking out of nowhere, not in time.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want pie too.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
or cheescake
yum
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DP or just hit Jeter
Either is acceptable.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dropping the DP ball, however, is not
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angels D sucks
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WTFWTFWTFWTF
is it with Izturis and this weird, uncharacteristic Sleg defense, is it cuz it’s wet and cold and they miss their warm snuggly Orange County?
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird, uncharacteristic...?
Huh?
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they usually play tighter, more intense D than this
these 2 games they’ve looked like another team, another all-bundled-up team so I wonder if it’s the weather.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to imagine a Sleg defense that DIDN'T suck.
I got nothing.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it isn't this bad
I mean they’ve dropped ball after ball and we haven’t even seen Howie Kendrick yet LOLOL
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon is starting to look like lil' Babe Ruth
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It would be funny for the game to end on a balk
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by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh-Oh looking like bases will be loaded soon.....
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Please get A-Fraud out
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is going to suck
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Strikeout
He’s not THAT clutch in October yet.
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or a popout
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - we just got the "THIS is serious" look from A-Rod
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS is beyond baseball.
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where'd they come up with that?
wonder how much they paid for the campaign……if it WAS beyond baseball – I think the series would be easy ivey over?
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod sucks in the clutch.
Why is he even on the postseason roster?
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by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cuz it comes free with his gigantic salary
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the A-Fraud I know and loathe
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
An A-Fail
from A-Rod!
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
YAY
no cheap HR yer granny coulda hit there.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Nico was dead, he would've rolled over in his grave with that walk.
by capper3 on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why yes, you're right! (See below)
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow -- I did not agree with the "intentional" (oh come on, it was) walk,
but glad it worked out.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lots of humiliation for both teams
gotta love it
by OaklandSi on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just about to say I was still hoping for a Yankee error
Now I just need to result in an Angels run.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, this is totally insane...
5 hours, freezing cold, 13th inning, almost 1 a.m. in NY. These are not optimal conditions, it just doesn’t seem fair1
Guerrero is like 38 years old. Old guys like us, you know, we can like get pneumonia and die. Not fair.
by paris7 on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
where do those douchebags get taco bell in the middle of texas
and then WAIT to eat them when they stop on the side of the road.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CANO-E!
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Yankee "up the middle" defense today.
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by Nico on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter
made a hard routine play look difficult yet easily routine earlier, dunno if you saw that.
It’ll be on ESPN later if you did, over and over again.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh is it BB opposite day?
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was raining pretty hard.
Tim McCarver said “Jeter made a routine play look hard!” as if it was some big “whoa” thing or something.
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Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson Can't-O!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chad Gaudin is the last man standing
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it would be funny and painful
if the Angels scored 1 run and then the Yanks tied it in the bottom of the ing for more extras.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
would Bud S call the game if they run out of pitchers??
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
I wanna see Swish in there!!!
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah........I forgot about that.
I think someone foretold of that on a thread recently
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not only was he an A
he lived in Jack London Square, how Oakland is that?
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Andrew Brown
used to take BART to work.
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Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 17, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEs
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posada was lucky that ball didn't get through
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Night in the Ruts
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Oct 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the doc, always good for a subtle Aerosmith reference
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Tim Mc just say
“if Gaudin comes in tonight he will probably start tomorrow”?
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If it got postponed after he started pitching
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by Flashfire on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
that makes sense now.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that's what I heard...but I didn;t know who he was talking about
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Jeter-swooning
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Derek Jeter sees all!
I hate these announcers.
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.....he's seein' things
hallucinating lines on the field……he needs some meds.
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you hear after Jeter's HR
when tim Mccarver said that people who said jeter was bad at defense were in hiding now because he is so good.
by Future Ed on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BuckCarver
Shut up about Jeter! Jeebus. It was a routine play.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
to them
Jeter=Jeebus
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God's Puppy
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on Vlad
pretend your knees aren’t those of a 97-year old man.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's painful to watch him
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you suck Vlad!
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is done
a steep decline, precipitous and irrevocable.
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by emperor nobody on Oct 17, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for him
He used to be a monster.
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by worldblee on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody know if the AL curfew rule is in effect?
No new innings after 1:00am.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's just that time - I guess we'll see!
haven’t heard anybody say anything about that
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by BERRYJO on Oct 17, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's good to see that none of you have man crushes on jeter
by OakA'sHoney on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
quiet you
;-)
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my video game playing time window is closing
my wife will be home soon. I’m ready for the game to be over, score Angels!
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by micdog2001 on Oct 17, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NEW THREAD OPEN
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