2010 Community Prospect List - #8
by Zonis on Oct 14, 2009 6:33 AM PDT
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PrintFor Reference: Scout's Mid-Season Top 50.
I would just like to point out that I am very happy with the turn out, as well as the cases for players on the list thus far, and look forward to more of it in the future, especially as we get lower with lesser known prospects.
Poll is going to dwindle due to lack of suggestion for players to be added. Keep suggesting! I might have the poll fall back down to 5.
Want to look back at past votes? The link for the poll that each player has won is next to their name along with the percentage of the vote that they won at time of call.
Don't forget to list players in comments that you believe should be added to the poll soon!
The Minor League season has ended, and Winter Leagues are still a ways away. So what do we have left to do but tally up our Minor League experiences and take a look at the state of the A's Minor League System.
If you want to view Last Year's list, check here.
The qualifications to be voted onto the list are simple. The player in question must be eligible to win a Rookie of the Year Award for the 2010 season-that is, he must be a rookie to start the 2010 season. Well, not quite. To make it simpler and not have to count days on the active roster, we will be going with 130 AB or 50 Innings Pitched.
Lots of players have graduated from last years list, such as Cahill, Anderson, Mazzaro and Outman to name a few. Several others have upped their prospect value while others have fallen. Its our job to figure out where they stand.
The list will probably go on to 50 again like last time, though it really depends on how far AN wants to take it.
So argue out which player you believe deserves the spot for the list. Bring out the stats, the scouting reports, and the pictures (I'm looking at you flashfire!).
If you think you know a prospect well enough, write a scouting report with your supporting stats and I will put it into the thread for the next vote, either for the player's Bio after he wins, or for his bio for voting.
If you think a player deserves mention, or should be put on the next prospect vote list, or prospects that should be kept track of, put them in the comments (and preferably mark them clearly) and they will get consideration. I expect the top of the list, as with last year, to go rather smoothly for the first few players, but it gets more difficult as it goes on, and its up to you to bring prospects to light so that we can all see them. Just ask Anthony Capra, last year's #46 (and this years much higher) how important that is.
Votes will last a few days per round, or until a clear winner has emerged by landslide.
Age is entering the 2009 Season.
Prospects up for Vote:
Michael Ynoa, SP, Age 17 - Video
Did not play, 60 Day Disabled List.
Anthony Capra, SP, Age 22
2009 Stats G W-L ERA IP H BB K SV WHIP STO (oak) A+ 9 2-2 3.12 52 42 21 67 0 1.21 KAN (oak) A 18 4-7 3.24 100 70 40 103 0 1.10
Corey Brown, CF, Age 23 - Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B MID (oak) AA 66 .268 .349 .488 9 43 5 46 20
Arnold Leon, SP, Age 20
2009 Stats G W-L ERA IP H BB K SV WHIP MID (oak) AA 33 2-3 3.51 74.1 71 28 63 1 1.33
Tyson Ross, SP, Age 22 - Cal Sports Profile Video
2009 Stats G W-L ERA IP H BB K SV WHIP MID (oak) AA 9 5-4 3.96 50 40 20 31 0 1.20 STO (oak) A+ 18 5-6 4.17 86.1 78 33 82 0 1.29
Sean Doolittle, 1B/OF, Age 22 - Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B SAC (oak) AAA 28 .267 .364 .448 4 14 0 17 5
Henry Rodriguez, RP, Age 22 - Video
2009 Stats G W-L ERA IP H BB K SV WHIP SAC (oak) AAA 37 2-1 5.77 43.2 38 38 71 4 1.74 STO (oak) A+ 3 0-0 0.00 5 3 1 11 0 0.80 Max Stassi, C, Age 18
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B VAN (oak) SS 13 .286 .340 .367 0 8 0 3 4
A's Community Prospect List
1. Chris Carter, 1B, Age 22 - 76% (of 5) - Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B SAC (oak) AAA 13 .259 .293 .519 4 14 0 7 2 MID (oak) AA 125 .337 .435 .576 24 101 13 108 41
2. Brett Wallace, 3B, Age 22 - 79% (of 5) - Offense Video / Defense Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B SAC (oak) AAA 44 .302 .365 .505 9 28 1 32 10 Mem (stl) AAA 62 .293 .346 .423 6 19 0 22 11 SPR (stl) AA 32 .281 .403 .437 5 16 0 22 5
3. Adrian Cardenas, IF, Age 21 - 75% (of 5) - Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B SAC (oak) AAA 51 .251 .317 .372 1 24 3 23 15 MID (oak) AA 79 .326 .392 .446 3 55 5 56 26
4. Jemile Weeks, 2B, Age 22 - 36% (of 8) - Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B MID (oak) AA 30 .238 .303 .343 2 13 4 10 5 STO (oak) A+ 50 .299 .385 .468 7 31 5 29 9
5. Grant Desme, OF, Age 23 - 29% (of 8) - Video
OmahaHi's case for Grant Desme
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B STO (oak) A+ 62 .304 .398 .656 20 51 16 49 12 KAN (oak) A 69 .274 .334 .490 11 38 24 49 19
6. Grant Green, SS, Age 21 - 32% (of 7) - Video
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B USC College 54 .374 .441 .569 4 32 16 46 19 STO (oak) A+ 4 .316 .350 .368 0 3 1 2 1
7. Josh Donaldson, C, Age 23 - 31% (of 7) - Video
DesignatedForAssignment's case for Josh Donaldson
2009 Stats G Bavg OBP SLG HR RBI SB R 2B MID (oak) AA 124 .270 .379 .415 9 91 7 67 37
Upcomming Potential Prospects for Voting (no order): Mattl Sulentic, OF Anthony Recker, C Shane Peterson, OF Alex Valdez Dustin Coleman, SS Travis Banwart, SP Matt Spencer, OF Gregorio Petit, SS Graham Godfrey, SP Robin Rosario, OF Tommy Everidge, 1B Clayton Mortensen, SP Ronny Morla, SP Wilfredo Solano Joel Galarraga, C Nino Leyja, 2B Paul Smyth Conner Crumbliss Pedro Figueroade, SP Rashun Dixon, CF Julio Ramos Daniel Straily Fautino De Los Santos, SP James Simmons, SP Ian Krol, SP Yusuf Carter Ryan Ortiz, SP Brett Hunter, SP Anthony Huttenlocker Carlos Hernandez, SP Ben Hornbeck, SP Brad Kilby, SP Reynaldo Mateo Tyler Ladendorff Shawn Haviland, SP Mickey Storey, SP Chris Mederos Jon Meloan Josh Horton, SS Conner Hoehn Corey Wimberly, UTL Dan Thomas Sam Demel, RP Josh Leyland, C Justin Souza Andrew Carignan, RP Jermaine Mitchell, CF Jared Lansford, RP Justin Marks Jason Christian, 3B
If you have a prospect you want to suggest, from this list or not on it, speak up in comments!
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I'm tempted with ...
Ynoa and Brown, but my gut tells me that Doolittle should be #8. He receieved so much love here last year at this time. I understand he lost the season due to injuries, but I don’t think any of the above guys have showed more potential.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Oct 14, 2009 7:09 AM PDT reply actions
Doolittle
I am a big fan of Doolittle, but I think you have to say he has fallen a bit this year for two reasons.
1. Part of the reason I loved him last year was his ability to play corner outfield and 1b and hit with pop. Sort of like Nick Swisher before him. But his knee injury this year has me wondering if he can really play outfield for an entire season.
2. The knee injury had him miss basically an entire year of development. Adding to that missed year is my own personal disappointment at his injury in the wake of a promising Spring Training. It makes it hard for me to be excited about him, irrational as it may be.
Why would one random knee injury make someone unable to play the outfield for a full season?
That doesn’t make any sense. People come back from ACL tears all the time, and that’s way more severe than what Doolittle suffered.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Paging Dr. Thomas...
I find it distressing that knee tendinitis, something that is caused by inflammation and usually cleared up within a week or two using ibuprofen and ice, had him out for virtually an entire season. Full Disclosure: I am not a physician, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Chronic knee pain as the result of tendinosis sounds more likely and that is a different bird altogether.
Like I said, I am not a doctor, nor do I have the benefit of a stay at the Holiday Inn Express, but I am skeptical that he really had a random bout of 4 month long tendinitis.
That’s all.
+1
I agree with you. I’d almost rather a guy tear his ACL or get Tommy John than have a nagging injury that was projected to take 2 or 3 weeks and just never healed. If Doolittle ends up getting to winter ball and succeeds, I’ll be over it – but nagging injuries, esp. on young prospects, turn me off.
Agreed
I am looking forward to him having a good “off season” and arriving in the Bay Area sometime around June next season.
I tried to stay at a Holliday Inn but they totally dropped the ball
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by Nico on Oct 14, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
QOTM!!!
And don’t freakin’ remind me! Gahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if seconding a QOTM nomination does anything
but I’m doing it anyway.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
It wasn't tendinitis
I can’t remember what the actual injury was offhand, but I know that the “tendinitis” classification was not correct. It turned out to be like a ruptured disc or something.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
No silly. In his liver.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
In his computer
Minor League Tech Support is really dreadful.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
a meniscus is like a disk.
Not quite the same, but maybe out of very similar material/structure. And they function to do the same thing.
However, FYI, Doolittle did have Knee Tendinitis in 2007 as well. So, I would classify this as a recurring injury.
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Oct 14, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It was initially diagnosed as tendinitis, but
later it was determined that the patellar tendon was torn. Several injury reports call it a torn tendon, as Google will readily demonstrate. Sean himself discusses it in this blog entry from May 24.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Works for me
Apparently the “itis” was in fact “no-longer-there-itis.”
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
So now , what?
A torn tendon is better than an inflamed one? And the fact that he had knee problems in 2007 is irrelevant? It could be if it was the other knee… I am too lazy to look it up.
PS, Iglew, your link doesn’t work it just takes me back to the top of this thread?
In any event… I hope he has no long term knee problems and he can play left, right or where ever.
I thought you were the one (or one of the ones) who was arguing that a torn tendon was better than an inflamed one...
If not I’ve been misreading your earlier post.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Nope
I am not a doctor. I wouldn’t pretend to know which one is “better.”
I have had “tendinitis” that eventually was diagnosed as tendinosis in my wrist. The original pain started in 2004.
Playing guitar is what seems to aggravate it most, and anytime I play now it still aches. So I was just concerned, albeit with little direct knowledge of Mr. Doolittle’s circumstance, that he may have a similar problem in his knee.
He plays guitar with his knees?
Impressive.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Actually, I think it kinda is.
A tear can be repaired, it takes longer to heal, but there’s a definite/specific injury and not just “it’s irritated and inflammed”
Remember how long Huston Street was out with an “irritated” ulnar nerve? At least with a tear, you go in for surgery, get fixed, and have a timetable for return.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
See
I am admitting I have no idea on this and asking the question. I imagine some tears are much worse than inflammation, especially the kind of inflammation that goes away after some ice and ibuprofen or tylenol or whatever.
Is Dr. Jerry Goldman a member of the community?
Just FYI
IAMAD, but tylenol doesn’t reduce swelling, it just reduces pain.
And destroys your liver if you take too much.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Cool
I never take tylenol anyway. I was just saying… You know, if you have a muscle injury that requires a pill and ice and it gets better, you probably would prefer that to a torn tendon.
Like I said, I am not a doctor and I didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn Express.
Yeah, completely.
However I’d hate to have an “Irritated Nerve” that kept me from doing my job for an entire year without actually having a timetable for being healed and just being told “Keep resting and we’ll look at it again in 6 weeks” or something.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
"Oh, and try a weird chamber in Canada for a week."
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
"IAMAD" =
I am maybe a doctor?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Yeah, I noticed the typo after it was too late
Ny bad.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
unless, of course, you tear something like your achilles tendon
That takes a LONG time to actually heal up enough to use (assuming a complete tear). And then, because of the muscle disuse, you have to actually train it up again. Maybe it has more of a definite time table, but it doesn’t allow you to do many baseball related activities, so not only does your fitness suffer, but your baseball skills erode. Not a great combo, in my opinion.
Not that tendinitis is fun, but I’d rather take ibuprofen, rest, and ice over surgery and recovery any day.
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Oct 15, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops, my bad.
I must have bungled the link. Doolittle’s blog is out there somewhere. The right Google should turn it up.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Wow me too!!!!
P.S. you are wat to happy/hyper.
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
Huh
If I knew Ynoa and Brown would be a close one, I probably would have temporarily abandoned Leon and joined up with the Brown cause.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
I'm with you
except that I’ve been trying to avoid strategic voting. Plus, it’s much less work to open up each fANpost and just click on Leon.
Please don't do that
The voting system works when people a. don’t cheat and b. vote their honest preference. Otherwise… it gets sort of pointless.
In other words, don’t click the “results” button before voting.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 14, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I registered as Donald Duck
Was that wrong?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I don't think so
but I should mention that I moonlight as chief of ACORN’s legal advisory team.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
What is "overblown non-issue"?
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Well, I hadn't
But I guess now I have a concrete reason not to.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Oct 15, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I hit the results
and then vote based on alphabetic order. And size of package.
Nick Swisher is handsome.
Still voting for Doolittle
Have a feeling I’ll be voting for him for a while but I still like him just a bit more than the others on the list.
If we’re still looking to add new contestants I think Ben Hornbeck would be a good addition. Capra has been on for a while and I think that he and Hornbeck are very similar prospects. I have Capra a bit ahead because of scouting opinion, but I think their profile and performance are similar enough that if one goes on, the other shouldn’t be far behind.
After the current options I think Spencer would be my next addition.
His Midland numbers are neither eye-poppingly good nor toe-smashingly bad, but I think being able to hold one’s own in AA is important, and he should get at least another half season to improve on those numbers. His K problem isn’t as bad as that of Carter, Desme, or Brown, although he doesn’t have quite as much power as those guys.
"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs
His problem is neither Ks nor power
but rather a. plate discipline, and b. defense.
His best-case scenario is a sort of poor man’s Kendry Morales. He’s probably in the 20-25 range for me.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Well since the A's best case scenario seems to be a poor man's Angels,
that seems fitting.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well you are probably higher on some lower-rated guys upside than I am.
I’d say a poor man’s Kendry Morales is pretty good for someone you’d rank in the 20-25 range. And if I’d rank him higher than that, its because I can’t think of too many folks after the current options (which would take us to #15) who should go ahead of him. There’s DLS, and I could see myself going for Krol before #20, but who else? Hornbeck hasn’t pitched above A ball and his fastball tops out at 88. Dixon’s offensive suckitude in Vancouver is more than can simply be explained by trying to hit in an extreme pitcher’s park. Coleman had a terrible season with the glove and didn’t hit well after May. Leyja didn’t handle 2B much better than he handled SS. We can split hairs on these guys’ upside, but to suppose that someone like Dixon or Leyja is going to be better than a poor man’s Kendry Morales seems to me like it would require an imaginative amount of projection at this point.
"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs
Ynoa's gotta get up on the list sometime
- seems too low for him, actually, but I wouldn’t put him over any of the previous guys elected. Therefore: vote Ynoa.
Glad to see that Josh Donaldson finally won, now voting for Brown
CF defense and hit AA pitching much higher ceiling than Doolittle, who will probably be my next pick. Has a greater probability of success than Ynoa.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
I've been fasting for 36 hours to support Michael Ynoa
Let me eat, people. He’s gotta be #8.
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by notsellingjeans on Oct 14, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions
corey brown!
if you already voted for desme, brown should be a no brainer.
i can’t in good conscious vote for ynoa over most of these guys remaining until he pitches against some legitimate comp and demonstrates some level of competance. i know everyone says he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, i just want some proof.
The difference between sliced bread and Ynoa?
A bunch of dough.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
three jokes in a row
and you officially get the obligatory “OH MY, HE’S ON FIRE!!!!1111”. Kinda like Daric Barton after playing with a lighter.
"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Barton is in no danger of getting burned
He can just head to the pool.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
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"If Bowden was a general contractor, he'd build houses with nine bedrooms, six garages, no bathrooms, and half a roof."
by DyeLongJustice on Oct 15, 2009 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, one of my next 3 finally came off the list
Brown’s up next, then Leon. Doolittle after them. I think Ynoa finally gets on after that. After that I have no idea at all.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Vehemently disagree on Ynoa
I like that he is so projectable due to age, size and raw ability. However, with so many years left to get through the injury nexus, the elbow injury that has stalled him all season in 2009 and a lack of any and all track record in gametime situations, I cannot vote for him when the A’s have so many other players who can rate highly.
This spot is between Doolittle and Brown for me. Both have knee injury issues. Both have high ceilings in my opinion. Both have shown the ability to perform at a high level yet both have some questions about whether or not they will make the necessary adjustments to take their game to the next level. I voted Brown, but ask me in 15 minutes and I might say Doolittle. I think Brown has a bit of a higher upside due to his better game power (although Doolittle is still adjusting) and his ability to play CF. On the other hand, Doolittle is a year younger, playing at a higher level and putting up similar OPS numbers (and more power may come later due to aggressive promotion and short time as fulltime batter).
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by nobodyinparticular on Oct 14, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions
This is exactly correct
(In my opinion).
I think the real kicker for me was the fact that Corey Brown is playing a plus defensive position. Doolittle, at his ceiling, will play a corner OF position.
by eastbayexpat on Oct 14, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
For me, with Ynoa,
the lack of experience is one thing, the arm injury another. But the two together? I can’t rate him that highly yet.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 14, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I already forgot his upside :/
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by fruitattack on Oct 14, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Zonis
Thanks again for doing all this. This is one of my favorite series on AN, and you do a great job. Just thought I’d thank you.
I'm the genius who said Chris Carter will slug .650 his rookie season.
Voted Leon again
But am beginning to realize that he doesn’t have a realistic shot for another 2-3 spots but oh well, I’ll stick with him.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
I've enjoyed these posts
but I have to ask how far are we going on this thing? Top 20? I think at some point we’re going to get to the who the heck knows portion of this game. (I was at that point on the first post)
It's Top 312
The “Chad Reineke!!!!111” “No way!!! Bobby Crosby’s brother!!!!!111” debates are always spirited.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Right
I mean hopefully people that don’t really know about prospects recuse themselves or vote on who makes the most persuasive arguments in these threads for their guy.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha its like a caucus with proxy votes and every thing
now I know that caucus primaries exclude people from democracy, but really they are sooooo much fun to be a part of and organize for. I love them.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd love to work the Iowa Caucus for some campaign
I was involved in campaign politics a bit in an earlier life and it was a hell of a lot of fun.
I worked the Washington Caucus for Obama for a week
I took a break from doing my Senate race… It was a great time. Going into the gym and talking to people who all were really excited to vote or hear why they should vote for one candidate. It was super fun.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It sounds like it
I worked on Gore’s 2000 campaign in Missouri during the general election and had a lot of fun with it.
I mostly did congressional and local elections in the 1990’s and it was a blast but earning a living in politics isn’t easy and I always wanted to be a teacher so I moved on.
1 year unemployed... it isn't easy... tell me about it.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 15, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Went to 40 last year
I think we might run out of gas by that point this year since the system has thinned out somewhat (it took until about 35 before I started getting bored last year) but surely Zonis will take it to at least 30.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
We went to 50 last year I think
I don’t think it will be too difficult to get to that again
I say we rank every single minor leaguer in the system
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Oct 15, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
and then find the email address
for the last place guy and tell him “You are the worst prospect in the entire A’s system!”
Or we could skip the whole search and just send that email to Bobby Crosby’s little brother.
Fixed
"You are the worst prospect in theentire A’s systemminor leagues!"
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
Ooh -- 74 professional plate appearances, 0 XBHs
Way to go, Blakemeister!
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Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Holy Jebus hes 24 and put up those numbers in rookie ball
Shit thats bad.
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 16, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe he threatened to kick a puppy if they didn't grove him BP in the games?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 16, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Ynoa again...till he gets on.
And yay Henry!
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
i'm thinking
simmons and/or mortensen are next for the list.
Could this be a runoff?
As of now Brown and Ynoa are only off by three votes…
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
That's what I'm thinking.
Though that’s mostly because I voted for Brown and think he’s going to lose the non-runoff portion.
by Elston Gunn on Oct 14, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Michael Vick is not involved in this poll.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 15, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Really? Let's see...
Knife, pickaxe, saw, pipe…what am I missing? Oh right, he has a good throwing arm, too.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I would say he's just one tool
This guy, maybe five tools
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
Wow
Big Corey Brown Push right now. Anyone want to bet me who will become an All-Star MLB baseball player 1st????
I’ve got $10 on Ynoa.
For those Poker Players? You’ve got a flush draw. I’ve got pocket Aces.
Who will become a All Star FIRST?
Brown would win that, as he is much, much closer to the Majors than Ynoa. Ynoa is 4 or 5 years away, while Brown is 1 or 2.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
Throw in the fact that Ynoa has never pitched professionally AND has an injury
I would take that bet and probably give you decent odds on it.
For those poker players…you’ve got them mixed up. Ynoa is less of a sure thing than Corey Brown (if only for age, injury, and oh yeah, never pitched in the minors ever).
Of course, Ynoa could make it in either as a reliever OR a starter, but to be perfectly frank…if Ynoa is making it in only as a reliever, it’s a bit of a Pyrrhic victory, you know?
by eastbayexpat on Oct 15, 2009 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't take this bet, it's rigged
Every one knows the A’s only send pitchers to the All Star game. Who was the last postion player to go, Jaha?
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
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by Helloooo 1st on Oct 15, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess Tejada.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Haha!
Ramon Hernandez—2003.
A year after Tejada in 2002.
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by nobodyinparticular on Oct 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
How could I forget?
Scioscia coached the all-star game that year. He loved Ramon and chose him for the team. Helped pump up his trade value.
(Caveat: that’s from memory. Feel free to correct me if I’m remembering wrong.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Because on AN people will rarely correct you without permission!
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May I have permission to tell you you're wrong?
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
Not yet. I'm not ready.
Ok now.
…
Too late!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That analogy is way off
Maybe you could convince me that it’s like 8-10 suited versus AJ unsuited. One is an interesting hand that could become the nuts if the right cards come out. One is a hand that looks pretty when you’re running bad but still has a long way to go until being a made hand.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
I'd say Ynoa is the flush draw and Donaldson is a pair of 4s
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Good metaphor
After the last three seasons, I think a lot of A’s fans are on tilt right now.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
No pitchers so far
That must be a first for the A’s. Just shows 2 things most of the best prospects are up already and there is no stand out left. It has been a bad year in the minors for pitching. Injuries and struggles has most of these pitchers down. Simmons, Leon, and Ross are the only outstanding ones and none are #1 potential. H-rod is so up and down. My bet is the A’s go heavy on pitching in next year’s draft.
All our young pitching talent is with the big club
Last year five of the top ten were pitchers, (including the top two).
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
Looks like the committee to elect Corey Brown is doing its work
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
I've been voting for Brown since #5, but
if someone is stuffing the ballot box for him, that makes me sad.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Definitely violates the spirit
Though Ynoa seems to have tracked him upwards as well.
by eastbayexpat on Oct 16, 2009 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe just a fluke.
A little jump in statistical noise, like when an already decent player gets a a sudden short hot streak.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Wouldn't it just be accounted for by
“group think” — that there’s a tendency to vote for a winner and many readers probably look at the results before voting?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That could be.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
I've been voting for him since 4:30.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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