DLD 10/10 Thank Yous, Employment, and Living Poll
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
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The last year has been a trying time for me. After the 2008 election, life was the highest of highs, beating a two term incumbent Senator with a $5m campaign war chest and a promised DC job will do that. Well after a holiday vacation, the DC job disappeared, and having banked on it, I had not been applying for other jobs. I had a couple of sure things fall through, broke up with the girl that was keeping me distracted flying to LA to see her, and trying not to spend money living at home (NON-BASEMENT ROOM MIKEV!) don't really encourage a lot of happy times.
During this process, I have spent a huge chunk of my time at AN. I lurked for years but only had written one short fanpost before this year and commented sporadically. This year that has changed. I have written 19 fanposts containing 23,233 words ( or 3 times the combined length of my two collegiate theses) and about 4,000 comments of varying length. In otherwords, I spent the last year with you and it was a good decision (well not if you ask my mom).
I have made friends with many ANers online and off and have been the recipient of much generosity. Wacchampion and his friend Ralph have taken me to several games this year including the last AN day. SF drift king has also given me and a couple friends the opportunity to help populate an empty Coli when he wasn't using his tickets. Imaseasonticketholder was also kind enough to let me use her great tickets to see Landon Powell blast a grand slam on the sunniest day of the year. In addition to tickets I have gotten to eat Lynn's heavenly food both at AN tailgates and when Nico was kind enough to open his secret dark dungeon lovely home for Chez Nico.
Online, I have enjoyed debates, critiques, and fistacuffs with so many people. Among my favorites have been grover, who has helped me out with research in his pugnaciousness loveable furry blue comments, Iglew, with his staty nonstatiness antidebate centric debatorness, 67Marquez, with his history, Leopold Bloom with his innuendo, PT, with sharing a debaters view of the world, sirbed with his sense of humor, nevermoor, for freaking out about the same antistats stuff I do, danmerqury, with his cogency when talking about statistics, WaddelCanseco, his love of upside, Notsellingjeans, depth and questions. flashfire for sharing pictures, Nico, for his penchant for being wrong disagreeing with me, Noava22, for Carlos!, mikev, for his big as grill (tm), and so many other people that run and populate the most reasoned and intellegint fan site I have ever wander across in the large series of tubes that make up the Internet.
No, Im not dying, but I do start a job with SEIU as a union organizer a week from Monday, so I wanted to take this opportunity to thank you all for being with me in a turbulent time of my life. Now here comes the links:
Team USA wins the Pan-Am U18 Championship. You should care about this since many of the top draft picks from next years draft were on the team.
Andy Seiler put up his first 2010 mock draft. This is his A's pick:
10. Oakland Athletics – Chris Sale, LHP, Florida Gulf Coast – Sale was the star of the Cape Cod League this summer, and most prospect buffs would be lying to you if they told you they knew who he was before his summer run. He’s going to battle Pomeranz and James Paxton for the top lefty in the college class during the spring, and there’s a good chance Sale comes out ahead. He’s also big, standing at 6′6", but he’s projectable too, as he might be able to add a good twenty pounds to his frame. He’s got a plus fastball with good movement and an effective changeup, and I see Sale as a relatively safe pick as far as pitchers go.
If you are reading this Blez, hurry up and give Andy a SBN blog. Seriously he does some of the best work on the interwebs.
Sickels did a profile on our own Andrew Bailey.
Fangraphs: PT was right
Fangraphs: WTF are the Angels doing with their catching? I guess they could want to lose but still Napoli>>> Mathis.
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We may not get along all the time but I'm glad you're here
Good luck with the job, but I still had to pick the last option. ;-)
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Oct 11, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I expected the last option to win handily
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the ranks of A's fans and ANers
whose job pays the bills but keeps them from contributing long posts to AN
seriously, congratulations!
by OaklandSi on Oct 11, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully I will still be able to contribute around here
but I don’t think the wake up at 1030 and hop on AN will keep going as much.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, DFA. It's been fun.
Congrats on the job! You’ll definitely be missed if you have to cut down on your time here. Don’t stray too far from the AN tree.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 11, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad you found a job, and thanks for all of your posts
"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden
by doctorK on Oct 11, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
DFA, you really should be living in Oakland
For an accomplished hipster such as yourself, Oakland has way more street cred. SF is too ‘hipster’ for the true hipster connoisseur. Thus, Oakland offers a hipster-esque contrarian response to the hipsterization of SF. Also, the warehouse art parties in West Oakland seem like something that would be right up your alley.
Congrats on the job.
by cityplANner on Oct 11, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I love this comment.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
by pam5981 on Oct 11, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay! Pam is back!
I fully understand the need for a vacation from AN, and I hope you enjoyed yours. But we missed you. Glad to see you back again.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 11, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its weird because I spend a fair amount of time in Oakland
but it is pretty much all with my grandparents either at Lake Merrit, Oakland Kaiser, getting food on Piedmont while I wait for some procedure to be completed, or walking from BART to those locations. When I was a kid I would spend a lot of time with my grandparents in the Oakland Hills but thats not real Oakland. So despite being over there about once a week or so Im not really in Oakland, so I could do with a true hipster tour.
As for being a “good” hipster, Im not sure if I qualify, as being a hipster is just something I do on the side rather than being a full out hipster. Adbusters says
But it is rare, if not impossible, to find an individual who will proclaim themself a proud hipster. It’s an odd dance of self-identity – adamantly denying your existence while wearing clearly defined symbols that proclaims it.But I readily admit to being a hipster, Im just bad at it. I have had the same hair cut since 6th grade, and the same glasses since junior year of high school. I like bands even after they go big even (see my excitement for MGMT at Treasure Island next weekend). Im nice to people at dance clubs and my bike isn’t a fixie (though I want the calves that come with having one and may get one since I want a bike with more aggressive geometry and isn’t as likely to get so out of whack). Hell I don’t even know if I would be cool enough to be invited to your awesome warehouse parties. I just do my thing, go to popscene, dance, and meet girls when Im not saving the world.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me know when you're around Piedmont Ave!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
by pam5981 on Oct 11, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will do
though when Im there it usually means ive been in a hospital for four hours and am a little stir crazy at that point.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm such a non-conformist,
that I’m not going to conform with the rest of you. Okay I’ll do it.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 11, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the first rule of being a hipster
is not referring to oneself as a hipster
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
by jlanning17 on Oct 16, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I break that rule
But I readily admit to being a hipster, Im just bad at it.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 16, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's just a funny website
that was on-topic. i’m not trying to give anybody a hard time
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
by jlanning17 on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+alot on giving Andy Seiler his own SBN blog
I am really hoping he starts his draft reviews again – I was really looking forward to his A’s post.
by DeJay on Oct 11, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats DFA.
Sweet job you landed there, btw.
And + a lot on giving Andy Seiler his own SBN blog. Amazing stuff, especially for the prospect/draft junkies like myself.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
by Blicks on Oct 11, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TY
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations on your new job, DFA!
My wife is a VP of an SEIU healthcare local in PA. Organizing for SEIU in Cali right now should be…interesting, to say the least (especially if you’re in a healthcare gig).
Just 2 pieces of advice (from a former debater who was a union organizer, both internal and external, for about 7 years).
1) Don’t take any internecine b.s. too seriously. 90% of what’s described as a matter of principle in almost any internecine union strife is simply turf wars.
2) Get the workers to talk. You should listen to them way more than they listen to you.
I already know you’ll be on top of your numbers!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 11, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
The interview was kind of strange since it was in a group of 15 and it was mostly group discussions and role plays. The role plays we did were mostly how to talk with workers, and by talk, I mean ask them questions that make the workers talk. So from the little of the job that I know that is really good advice.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a note for the GOGgers
I’m finally done grading all of the regular season results. Grades for GOG #00 and the end of the season summary are still to come.
So, if you want to see the current standings, check out the GOG #52 fANpost.
by colin on Oct 11, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Colin - I've been wondering all season what GOG stands for. I missed the memo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 11, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means
Game of Guessing. Or something like that. Lots of fun if we can do it next year :)
Thanks colin for organizing the GOG each week while finishing a thesis!
by streetfan on Oct 11, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was Guess the Outcome Game? hmm I call upon the parliamentarian colin to rule
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dfa got it
but I’m not responsible for the name. I just resurrected something that I enjoyed on AN back in 2005 and 2006.
by colin on Oct 12, 2009 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
Yes, what DFA said….
I have been reading and occasionally posting on AN for 3 seasons! Really, I have! I should know better.
by streetfan on Oct 12, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks everybody
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 12, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Legally, you're not allowed to post a DLD, stathead.
oh and welcome to ranks of the employed.
You could’ve come to Florida and worked in fabulous Sarasota at the illustrious sign shop.
It’s quite prestigious.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Florida needs a lot more than signs and you to even make me consider moving there
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Bloomy you said that job was mine if I put on my wig
you jerk taking away my only chance at making the big money.
by sirbed on Oct 11, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your job wouldn't involve signs.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm for that kind of work I'm going to want a good benefits package bossman
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there is a wardrobe stipend.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine completely ignore the Tories then.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bringing in politics is a CGV, no?
even if it’s Canadian/British/wtf?
by timed exposure on Oct 12, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he was talking about the Whigs
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 13, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're hiring?
This sign shop wouldn’t happen to have a Southern California branch, would it? I have zero sign-making experience, though.
Day seized!
by JLaff on Oct 11, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it had a SoCal branch, my fat ass would be there.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you let this happen?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let DFA post a DLD or
open a sign shop in Florida?
Both are sordid tales, involving copious amounts of rum and illicit sexual escapades. And vinyl. Lots of vinyl.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first one.
I sort of know the second one.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had plenty of links though!
I thought i did it right.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nono,
it’s just as yahoos, we’re forced to regulate the types of threads you, as a stathead, can actually post. You posted this yesterday, which was my shift, and I failed. And my superior is now demanding an explanation.
It’s just SOP, DFA.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your mom's basement where you should be, blogger!
Also, make sure you stay out of people’s vans.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Oct 11, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
especially if they offer candy.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like old VW Buses
from like pre 67 but Ive decided that the difference between being the guy with the awesome classic bus who wears a tuxedo shirt with ruffles that picked you up in the club and the guy with the creepy vw bus who wears a tuxedo shirt with ruffles that picked you up in the club is way too thin to risk being on the wrong side.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think creepy van guys tend to drive like
big windowless Chevy vans from the 70’s, not cool microdot buses from the 60s.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know you did DLDs
I never find myself clicking on them, but I wanted to see what you were doing here.
Two-term senator, that would have to be Gordon Smith. As I sent a few bucks cross-country to Merkley, I say good for you, sorry the DC thing didn’t work out but it did contribute to better AN content.
Good luck on the SEIU gig, though I can’t imagine it won’t dramatically cut down on your time here. I don’t think I’d have the stomach for organizing, but I’m grateful for those who do.
Now I have to shut up before I get in trouble with the political police. (These are personal congrats, folks, not gratuitous political provocations, IMO.)
by Faust on Oct 11, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sweet sweet CGVs...
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my first
I had know Jeff for two years before he ran. I was there from the kick off to the end, he is a great guy and has been everything I hoped he would be in the senate.
I just see myself being more of an evening commenter than a mid day one in the future.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
watching him a bit on cspan, he strikes me as much less douchey than those guys typically tend to be...
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 11, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try having a conversation with him.
He’ll actually listen to you. I saw him in LAX and I was sitting banging on my computer because i had gone to LA to see the girl and found out that she was also dating someone else down there, so I was in a terrible mood. Out of nowhere I got tapped on the shoulder and there was my favorite US Senator. We talked for about 20 minutes. He totally could have walked right by and ignored me but he took the time to say hi.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just see myself being more of an evening commenter than a mid day one in the future.
Did you know you can comment on Athletics Nation from your phone or PDA? SB Nation has launched mobile commenting. Check it out next time you’re at the hospital parking lot or gathering of hotel employees and have something to say.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 11, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this would be a qotm - employment edition if anyone did those anymore.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because no one posts to AN while at work!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 11, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Its the whole my salary comes from dues that janitors and security guards and food prep and health care workers pay. Im picking their pockets if I don’t bust my ass. So maybe on lunch but I doubt you will see me when I am “at work.”
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I literally cant
too damn busy!!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 12, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't suppose you're in contact with anyone from the legal department...
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 11, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not as of yet but if/when I do ill let you know.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats DFA and good luck with your new job.
That’s great news and I’m a big believer in unions so I’m glad to see they got someone as on the ball as you are.
I hope you still get time to come here on AN and prove how wrong I am about baseball as I’ve had a lot of fun going back and forth with “The Stats Killer”.
by sirbed on Oct 11, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Im not dying, Ill just be less likely to tell you that you are wrong as quickly as I have been in the past :-)
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that for UHW, the International or a different local?
Good luck! SF is cool … but it ain’t worth it.
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Oct 11, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think its UHW since no one mentioned it when I interviewed, I thought they had their own local and honestly I would prefer to stay out of that whole mess
Another AN poster and the research director for an old campaign says he knows you up in Sac and you’re involved in dem politics up there which is awesome.
As far as the city, I grew up here, my friends are here, popscene is here. If Bart ran till 330 I would be much much more open to living outside the city but there really isn’t a good non driving way to get there and back late. Plus having a DD requires making enough friends that want to hang out with your drunk ass while theyre sober.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well ... even if you're avoiding the biggest mess that is UHW ...
all of SEIU is controversial these days.
My buddy who is on the AC Transit board swears up and down that the all nighter transbay bus system is great. He’s biased, mind you, but it may be an option.
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Oct 12, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to ride that occasionally.
I liked it fine, but that was at least ten years ago, so who knows.
As for big messes and controversies, just be glad you’re not working for ACORN! (Too soon?)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
I never got what all the fuss was about ACORN… so they registered Donald Duck to vote, who cares. Anyone that actually has ever done voter reg knows that there is going to be some person that wants to flirt with you so they fill out a card and use a fake name, or some homeless dude. It happens, so what?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anger in need of a target
But then, this probably isn’t an AN discussion.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 12, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I just have done a lot of voter reg.
My favorite was at PDX Beerfest. Some dude “Isn’t it illegal to register me to vote when im drunk?”
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACORN got some bad raps during the 2008 election.
On the Donald Duck registrations, they’re actually required to accept what the person says, even if they know it’s fake. It has to be that way: if registerers weren’t required to pass on every registration at face value, that would give them the power to filter out all registrations they dislike and only keep the ones they do like, which would clearly be unfair. It’s up to the state or locality to verify them, not the collector.
But that said, regardless of whose side you’re on, ACORN is all kinds of messed up.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A union organizer?
Not sure whether to say “break a leg” or “bust a knee cap”.
by LowcountryJoe on Oct 11, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is funny but
Intimidation comes regularly from management and union intimidation is mostly a myth
Cornell University scholar Kate Bronfenbrenner looked at organizing campaigns and found that:
Eighty-nine percent of private-sector employers, when faced with employees who want to join together in a union, force employees to attend closed-door meetings to hear anti-union propaganda; 64 percent interrogate workers about union activity; and 77 percent require that supervisors deliver anti-union messages to workers they oversee.
Seventy-five percent hire outside consultants to run anti-union campaigns, often based on mass psychology and distorting the law.
Fifty-seven percent of employers threaten to shut down partially or totally if employees join together in a union.
In 34 percent of organizing campaigns, private-sector employers illegally fire workers because they want to form a union.
Even after workers successfully form a union, in one-third of the instances, employers do not negotiate a contract.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the dirty little secrets of the corporate law world
is how many firms have gotten involved in union-busting activities which are, at best, tiptoeing along the outermost hair’s edge of professional ethics, and frequently are nothing more than facilitating criminal behavior. Those “outside consultants” are, unfortunately, usually lawyers who should know better. (Or in many cases, do know better and are simply getting paid off to keep their mouths shut.)
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 11, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair accusations but let me play devil's advocate
Eighty-nine percent of private-sector employers, when faced with employees who want to join together in a union, force employees to attend closed-door meetings to hear anti-union propaganda.
One man’s propoganda is another’s useful information — all sides try to disemenate persuasive information; however it gets labeled is usually determined by the views of the audience member. When employers force these meetings, it’s always on time/dime.
64 percent interrogate workers about union activity; and 77 percent require that supervisors deliver anti-union messages to workers they oversee.
I would, too, if I were a company guy. Unions (not neccessarily its members) typically have adversarial relationships with company owners and its top management. If I found myself in this type of business labor relationship, where the one side didn’t always seek cooperation (working toward the same goals), I’d want to know what was going on and sometimes I’d even want to try to subvert the other side’s goals.
Seventy-five percent hire outside consultants to run anti-union campaigns, often based on mass psychology and distorting the law.
Fifty-seven percent of employers threaten to shut down partially or totally if employees join together in a union.
Imagine this: a company finds it less costly to try and run anti-union campaign or even consider closing shop rather than cave to union demands. Could it be that it’s not just companies (and the owners who expect to be compensated for putting their capital at risk) that are being unreasonable?
In 34 percent of organizing campaigns, private-sector employers illegally fire workers because they want to form a union.
In all states it is illegal to fire workers for attempting to unionize. In some states, workers can be fired without any cause. If there’s a case to be made, it can usually be adjudicated and damages awarded to the plantiff/worker…and there’s no shortage of laywers who would take that kind of case, pro bono.
Even after workers successfully form a union, in one-third of the instances, employers do not negotiate a contract
And that’s the company’s right, is it not?.
by LowcountryJoe on Oct 12, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sticking purely to facts here in an effort to avoid getting completely off track:
When employers force these meetings, it’s always on time/dime.
I’d be very careful about throwing around words like “always.” Wage-skimming is rampant for starters, and second, many employers indoctrinate employees as part of the requirements for even getting a job in the first place.
In all states it is illegal to fire workers for attempting to unionize. In some states, workers can be fired without any cause. If there’s a case to be made, it can usually be adjudicated and damages awarded to the plantiff/worker…and there’s no shortage of laywers who would take that kind of case, pro bono.
In every state except Montana, there is a presumption that employment is “at-will” unless otherwise contracted for. However, none of those states protect firings for illegal reasons— race discrimination, union status, refusal to commit a crime, etc. The exact list varies a little from state to state but those are the big ones.
Unfortunately, most such firings go unpunished because the employee can’t prove the motivation of the company. The vast majority of unlawful firings are never punished, and getting a lawyer to take those cases is extremely difficult because the chances of success are low. There is absolutely a shortage of lawyers who will take those cases, pro bono or otherwise, and the EEOC and NLRB cannot even begin to come close to handling all the claims made by employees who can’t afford a private attorney.
And that’s the company’s right, is it not?
It is not the company’s right to refuse to bargain in good faith with a union representing its employees. Once again, though, proving bad faith is difficult, so companies usually get away with it.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why the Employee Free Choice Act is so important
Not only does it prevent intimidation before elections, it also forces binding arbitration if a first contract hasn’t been reached in 90 days.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be very careful about throwing around words like "always."
Good advice. Thank you for calling me out on that.
Wage-skimming is rampant for starters
What is wage-skimming? Something that happens in the shallow surf at a beach with a thin board?
many employers indoctrinate employees as part of the requirements for even getting a job in the first place.
Makes sense, since you want your employees to be on the same page, move the company in a more profitable direction, and want them to have the proper incentives to get the company there.
The vast majority of unlawful firings are never punished, and getting a lawyer to take those cases is extremely difficult because the chances of success are low. There is absolutely a shortage of lawyers who will take those cases, pro bono or otherwise, and the EEOC and NLRB cannot even begin to come close to handling all the claims made by employees who can’t afford a private attorney.
I didn’t know this so I was just making an assumption. As it turns out, I gather, I dropped the umption and straight talked out of my ass.
by LowcountryJoe on Oct 12, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wage skimming writ large is simply employers not paying employees for things that they should be paid for
Most common is not paying people for break time or not giving them break time they’re entitled to, but it can take the form of misclassification of workers (as “exempt” from overtime pay or as independent contractors when they’re really employees) or, in a disturbing number of cases, just simple theft through things like doctoring timecards to reduce hours worked.
I don’t have an example ready to hand, but I’ll just say that I would be… unsurprised if some employers found ways to avoid paying their employees for anti-union lectures, either through “lunchtime” meetings, “optional” sessions that aren’t really optional, or what have you.
Makes sense, since you want your employees to be on the same page, move the company in a more profitable direction, and want them to have the proper incentives to get the company there.
Oh, it certainly makes sense. No one’s accusing these companies of being run by fools. Then again, insider trading “makes sense” too— if it didn’t make sense, we wouldn’t have to outlaw it.
Re: the lawyer thing, it’s an economics problem. Too many cases, too few winners, and too low of recoveries when you do win. Often the only wrongful-termination cases that are worth taking are ones involving highly paid executive types.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations.
I’m glad to hear you’ll be taking on something so tough, yet important. I’ve no doubt you’ll do well.
I hope you don’t think I disklike you; I don’t. You bring a lot to the table, even though you need an editor (happy to help!). I just feel some kind of compulsion to respond to the dogmatically statistical, even though I buy into most of its value.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Oct 11, 2009 7:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone here dislikes me
maybe that is tone def or naive (though I know I annoy some). I like people that argue with me. If I didn’t want people to argue with me I would just think things rather than putting them on a blog. I would be really disappointed if no one disagreed with me.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU'RE WRONG!
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 11, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he Bloom, I mean I know I can't stand him
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm....oh, yes, I guess I should've been more clear on my poor attmept at snark.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to have all my attempts at snark be poor
I believe in being consistent.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Morgan believes consistency is key.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to think I'm the Joe Morgan of AN
Which means I’m always wrong but I’ll never admit it!
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or that people will outwardly mock you and you'll have no idea
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Oct 13, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats DFA
If it is health care, it will be interesting. Its a lot of work, that I am sure you are ready for.
WHere is it at?
by Future Ed on Oct 11, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The local is all over the Bay up to Stockton
and ill be doing some training in DC.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the new job DFA!
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Oct 11, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TY!
This means I will be getting my own place and can host a Chez DFA or Bring Your Own Fangraphs Viewer.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooo, a shoutout
Good luck, and stay in SF. It is most definitely worth it if you can BART to work. If not, that’s a different story.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 11, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well see its a huge local
I badly want a 1967 VW fast/squarback or bug. My idea right now is stay in the city, leave the car at work and bike to bart to work since the office i did the interview with is right across the freeway from the Coli. If Im based out of a different office in the local that would obviously change that.
im thinking of emailing these craigslist people on lower haight: hi i like your location and cheap rent but want nothing to do with your communal/vegan lifestyle. Can i still move in?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
The job I’m interviewin for tomorrow is just on the other side of the coliseum.
Btw, there are issues around taking bikes on BART during commuting times. Unless you’re planning on locking it up in san francisco.
by bobnothing on Oct 11, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I am. Thats hella random... what for?
I was planning on leaving it in sf and or trying to get there/stay late schedule.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some internet jiggerypokery. We'll see how it goes. Could be interesting.
I’ve got a page of notes, so I’m feeling pretty prepared.
I was thinking of perhaps getting a folding bike. I’ve wanted one for a while, not least so that when I go visit friends places (hello, sxsw), I can just pack it up and go. We’ll see, though.
No point in getting too far ahead of myself…
by bobnothing on Oct 11, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got too far ahead of my self too many times in this process
this was my first real job search. I had always lucked into jobs through connections before and I didn’t know not to believe people that said they were going to hire you.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 11, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this isn't my first dive into the pool, by any means,
but it is the longest without any regular employment. I picked up another job last week, too, so things are starting to look up, some
by bobnothing on Oct 11, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was lucky i had graduation money a tax return and some savings
to go with living at home and eating my moms food. Thats the only way i made it especially since i didn’t collect unployment because Oregon’s sucks.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I've been eating a lot of lentils, and picking up bits and work where I can
by bobnothing on Oct 12, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I use to eat a lot of pasta and butter the last time i did the no job thing
but my boss owned an orchard so i had access to as many apples as I wanted to avoid scurvy.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, you had a boss but no job?
That’s like the worst of all possible worlds.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yes and no
I was working on a race after the candidate that I was managing failed to pay me and wanted to spend the remaining campaign money on yard signs and I left, but I wasn’t getting paid except for a few paid canvass shifts they were able to give me.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome on the new job, DFA!!
Especially given this is a bitch of a time getting a job of any kind! Now, pay off those loans and get to more games!!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 11, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I gather your parents live in SF?
The one thing you should NOT do is get your own place in SF.
If you want to stay with your parents and save money, fine. But if you’re moving out, there are lots of nice places in Oakland in a wide variety of price ranges. If you get a place in SF you’re just paying twice the rent for half the space in order to live where you don’t work, for no good reason at all.
Do the math. Even if you end up taking a cab home twice a month because you stayed out too late and missed the last BART, you still save money by not paying SF rents.
And besides, Oakland is cool.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 11, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well here is the thing
I don’t particularly want or need a big place, though a good kitchen is a must and a gas range is probably one of the big deciding factors. When I am at home I usually am either cooking/eating, hanging out with people I brought home to eat my food or my roommates, on my laptop in my room on AN, watching game day, reading prospect reports and fangraphs, watching movies or listening to music. I grew up in 946 sq feet sharing a room with my little brother so I like small and cozy.
That being said I love my city. I have night life here and friends and I don’t want to turn into the guy that always has to leave early to get across the bay or the guy that didn’t get though of because by the time I get here from oakland there quick drinks are done. Your right it would probably be equivalent to 3 $50 cab rides to Oakland but I am sure I would end up taking them since I go out every Thursday and like going out on Fridays and stuff as well (no more Monday dollar drink nights at they gay bar with my little brother though) . So I would lose 8 bucks on bart to get to work which i guess is about 160 a month but I think that is enough to keep me here.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nomnomnomnom
When I am at home I usually am either cooking/eating, hanging out with people I brought home to eat my food or my roommates
Do you explain this to your roommates before you move in with them?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 12, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have in the past I guess
usually my roommates are the largest beneficiaries of my cooking largess. I mean who wouldn’t want to come home and have a roommate cook them up one of their $14 ribeyes or has too much pot roast or extra risotto.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Nick was too subtle.
I think he was alluding to the missing apostrophe.
Its absence implies that the people you bring home are cannibals.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not sure how an apostrophe would help. But thank you for enlightening me on Nick's meaning, it was very funny.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A parallel example:
Would you rather eat my food or my cat’s?
Would you rather eat my food or my cats?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but in this case roommates isn't in possession of anything
I should have added or hanging out with my roommates, so that I clearly wasn’t eating them but im pretty sure a possessive apostrophe there doesn’t make much sense, though Im likely wrong.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow, I misread it.
I thought you meant to say “to eat my food or my roommates’ [food]” not “hang out with people … or [with] my roommates”
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The missing punctuation mark was, in fact, a comma
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 13, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, OK, maybe you are meant for SF after all.
Freak.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha im more than willing to be a freak
I love it here. In college my friends use to say I was “San Francentric.” Now if you have other reason’s Oakland will be better for me besides its bigger for the rent or that i will have to pay a premium to live in SF, Im all ears.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do have other reasons besides economic ones,
but after hearing your views, I see that my aesthetic opinions aren’t ones that you would share.
There are still parts of Oakland you would like, should you have reason to live in Oakland, but I now believe the parts you would like best are the most San Francisco-like parts, at which point you may as well go stick with your instincts and just stay in San Francisco.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm kinda disappointed I didn't get a shout out. ;-)
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Oct 11, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 12, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appears the the code i tried to use for the TM on big ass grill ate your should out... its being edited.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least your ass got mentioned.
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Oct 12, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yours deserves much more than just a mention
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 13, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a comment I can stand behind.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 13, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...I love you both!
Bailey for ROY!
by ZigFan31 on Oct 13, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you love me more, right?
{elbows 67M to the side}
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 13, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey DFA.,...awesome news about the job....It's been fun hanging out a little with you this year at the games...
I’m sure we will stay in touch during the offseason but good luck with your first day and the job, I know you will do well…..Hit me up if you ever wanna meet up for food or coffee or something!!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Oct 12, 2009 1:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Late to the party.
Congrats, DFA. Oh, and my niece says “hi”.
SEIU, huh? We put in some furniture there a while back. Cool.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Marquez
Though I imagine that after making fun of her flirtations with RRS, being a Niners fan, and calling her out on her derogatory usage of the word gay, that “hi” from Britney is full of rage :-)
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well she *is* 18
Most of what she says is full of rage. ;-)
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The angst is strong with that one!
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have no idea.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me I know...
it was not that long ago that I dated girls that age.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats. As an SEIU member and former steward, I look forward to
anonymously yelling at you over the phone starting a week from today! Seriously though, I hope for all of our sakes you are as passionate about health care as you are about baseball. I quit my stewardship after the bizarre experience of having my colleagues tell me I was “anti-labor” for arguing we should expand our benefits package for temporary workers. The unspoken inference was that salaried employees’ interests depended on having a bunch a poorly-compensated grunts at the bottom, which seemed to me a rather bourgeois union stance.
But the congratulations are sincere, because good organizations are made up of good people, and I hope your zeal for advocacy can combine with your career to produce positive results. Also, as a fellow twenty-something who has wafted around jobs in a bad economy, I know how difficult it is to find something that pays well, pique’s one’s interest, and offers the opportunity for advancement.
"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs
by Aufheben on Oct 12, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Look forward to hearing from you!
I really don’t understand how anyone could get to that conclusion. In fact, expanding benefits to temp workers would be more likely to help salaried employees by discouraging management from cycling through temp workers to avoid paying for the benefits that full time permanent workers have. If the goal is to provide family wage jobs decreasing the relative cost of hiring and keeping full timers is good.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to infect you with my curmudgeonly cynicism
but merely to further your understanding … I don’t find it at all surprising that anyone would reach that conclusion.
Without delving into it deeply, I’ll just say that most people who consider themselves “pro-xyz” (in this case “pro-labor”, but the same principle applies to almost everything), what they really mean is “pro-me”, and thus anything perceived as contrary to the person’s own selfish interest does not count as “pro-xyz”, regardless of how it actually affects xyz.
Now I see you have a rationale why it should help the individual in question as well. Maybe it will or maybe it won’t. I don’t know about that. I do know that when people perceive opportunities to be finite (which is almost always), people who yesterday were very keen on the ladder of opportunity will soon take an interest in kicking out the rungs below them.
It’s sweet that your ideals are above all this, but if your “I really don’t understand how anyone could get to that conclusion” is actually true and not just rhetorical, you’re going to need to learn a bit.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand how they could logically get there.
Am I surprised by the opinion, not really. People act against their own self interest all the time, i just think its silly when they do.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to infect you with my goofy optimism
sorry iglew I had no choice with that one. You’re right DFA people do act against their own self interest all the time which is one of the reasons a union is a good thing.
When you are part of a group of people in the same boat as yourself sometimes you get a better view on things and can see the big picture better.
The SEIU is such an important union since so many jobs are in the service industry and I know it’s a union I’m rooting for.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to infect you with Joker-esque giddyism, but
the mental image of someone kicking the rungs out below them tickles me pink.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think iglew throws 4 pound books about Warren Harding
at the people below him on the ladder.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have sharp edges and pick up steam the further they fall.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want to get by a book about William Henry Harrison
it’s only 6 pages long.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tippecanoe and Tyler too!
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
... and none of them is about Isaac Newton or Galileo Galilei
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 12, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
... or James Watt.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some possible reasons that I've seen
1) Workers think that the pie is a particular size, and the question is who gets the biggest piece. This is a very common way to see things, and it can even lead to a sort of clannish solidarity, but it’s bad for solidarity (and workers) over all.
2) Benefits can signify a sort of status that you earn by your commitment to the company/organization. It’s not that hard for people to see other workers as not deserving the thing they’ve sacrificed for (“I wanted to go part-time years ago, but sacrificed time with my kids to stay full-time so I could keep my benefits — and now these people expect to just waltz in here and get benefits for working half-time? No way!”).
And this is actually a good example of the “get the workers to talk” dictum. If you hear this kind of thing from a worker, should you:
a) explain how solidarity can get more for everyone, and how turning on one another just serves the boss’s interests at the workers’ expense; or,
b) ask the worker why s/he feels that way.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 12, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah its about leading people to find the answer on their "own"
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, it's about learning about their experiences as workers
You already know more than most workers about how campaigns work, and will learn more.
The workers know vastly more about their jobs, their coworkers, and their bosses than you do. You need to know a whole lot about all of that in order to organize them, but if you do all the talking (or even most of it) you’re not going to learn what you need to know.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 12, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now there's an interesting concept.
if you do all the talking (or even most of it) you’re not going to learn what you need to know
I wonder if it has application elsewhere.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allow me to highlight your problem for you
I don’t understand how they could logically get there.
You are projecting your own culture onto others and assuming it to be universal truth. It is not.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or you could take this part
Am I surprised by the opinion, not really. People act against their own self interest all the time, i just think its silly when they do.
Im not imposing my culture on anyone, nor do I have the expectation that they will follow my values. I just think it is silly when they don’t.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what you're saying, but I still think you do.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't pretty much every democracy dependent on having a bunch of poorly-compensated, disenfranchised grunts at the bottom?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't know about democracy.
Capitalist society, yes.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 12, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's been the case in every non-capitalist democracy that I'm aware of, too
other than I guess some hunter-gatherer bands in particularly productive areas. Ancient Greek democracies were certainly not capitalist. Even most socialist communes I’m aware of have gotten by largely through exploitation of women’s labor without giving them equal political rights.
I feel like capitalism doesn’t require an underclass so much as an “overclass.”
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any meritocracy will have both
Not everyone is (or at least is willing to put in the effort to be) equally “valuable” however society defines that.
Also, any non-meritocracy will have both, but have the distribution of “talent” all wrong.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 12, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure what frightens me more:
a meritocracy that doesn’t work, or one that does.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In non-captalistic societies,
the poorly compensated are more numerous and the wealthy are far less numerous yet centralize the power, control, and wealth in the hands of just a trusted few. Breaking into that highly-compensated group is much easier — and done much more meritoriosly — in the captalistic societies. Yet, capitalism gets the bad rap. Also, in capitalistic countries, one is free to live in a commune and not practice capitalism. In a non-capitalistic society, one has to be a capitalist on the down low [the exception being those that practice trade — capitalism — in an official governmental capacity].
I’ll sit back and read now and STFU. Anything more I’ll be warned to desist or face the CGV strike…if it’s not too late.
by LowcountryJoe on Oct 12, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one is free to live in a commune and not practice capitalism
Having actually closely studied a group of people who attempted to do exactly this, I can tell you— it’s much harder than it looks… in particular, getting it started requires huge initial inputs of cash to avoid running out of startup capital, which makes it a less than exceptional option for the average Joe (no pun intended)…
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 12, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL ABOARD THE FREEDOM SHIP!
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Brilliant
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 12, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how your avatars
mimic each other.
by lynnzgal on Oct 12, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My avatar would eat his avatar though
So neener neener neener
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 12, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eat my avatar, baby.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bow wow chicka chicka bow wow.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hiram?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DFA: Hiram now!
Fire Sales Now!
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Oct 13, 2009 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all seriousness,
I am really loving how this subthread has managed to become a discussion of “politics” in the sense of the theory of government and organization of society, while studiously avoiding any “politics” in the sense of cheering for my side in the hot partisan issues of the day.
It’s really a marvelous achievement.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AN is remarkably good at that.
Now lets talk about how Glenn Beck is a toolbag :-P… oh wait both sides agree that he is… nvrmnd
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad DFA!! You just spoiled it.
And no, your feeble attempt at apophasis does not excuse it.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no its not dead its just sleeping.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're saying he has great upside?
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 13, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
lightning rod power!
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know when I'm reading fanposts on the Raiders blog
they rarely talk about political philosophy or the pros and cons of capitalism. No most of the posts are about important things like JaMarcus Russell’s earring or one poor soul who writes 4 posts a day (that all get taken down) about how he dreams of killing Al Davis.
There is of course all the cursing and poor spelling you’d expect(hey we’re talking about Raider fans here). It’s good for my ego to come on AN where there are so many people who are smarter than I am because when I go on the Raider blog I feel like the smartest man alive or at least the smartest Raider fan which might be like being the world’s tallest midget.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Niners Nation isn't really the height of intellectual discourse either
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a sad thing
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 12, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first thought upon reading a lot of the fanposts is a vision
of me introducing the authors to paragraphs. And grammar. It’s really a mess down there.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 12, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A certain emperor around these parts
could use that first introduction.
(And yet somehow people find it charming when he does it.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some people.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's a difference between doing it on purpose
or just not being educated enough to write properly.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose so.
Either way I find it unreadable.
Then again, I find James Joyce unreadable, too, unlike my Floridian brother.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 13, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joyce sure isn't easy reading
I’d like to give him a try again since the last time I read anything by him was 17 years ago and obviously my tastes are different from when I was 19 but I’ll admit I don’t know if I’ll ever get around to it.
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Joyce.
He’s a punk.
In the middle ages, most Jeopardy contestants’ wagers were unassailable. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to help.
They don’t like history the way AN’ers do.
Oh wait.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But thats football in general
Madden was talking about the color barrier in baseball and someone asked him who broke it in football and he was like I don’t know and then went on about how football really doesn’t care about traditions like baseball.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow that is an impressive run-on sentence.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved every minute of it. And, yeah, you're right.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
twss
I loved every minute of it
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 13, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he circle anything while he spoke?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 12, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably but my see the radio studio vision goggles are still in development.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 12, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"OK, let's look at the replay...
“See, here <circles> is the color barrier, and now watch number 42 come right through here <draws arrow> and — bam!! — he breaks it!”
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is one of great paradoxes of sports
that among fans, lovers of baseball are so very much more intellectual than lovers of football. And yet for the players, football is by far the more intellectually demanding sport.
Baseball: Smart people watch dumb athletes and imagine them smart.
Football: Dumb people watch smart athletes and imagine them dumb.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 12, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do you think football players are smarter?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with DFA here.
The Wonderlic tests for football players are notoriously woefully low. I cannot imagine that the aggregate baseball IQ would be lower….
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well football is a much more complicated game then baseball
and that is undeniable. However since it’s a game where most players only play a certain part of it that means they only have to know how to play their part of the game.
This is why most former football players are awful as broadcasters. They may have been a great wideout or quarterback but that doesn’t mean they no anything about line play or what a linebacker does.
That’s why for the most part coaches make the best color men on games. Madden was the king of course but Brian Billick and Jon Gruden are doing some good work this season.
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone did a study on it awhile back
and found that football players were significantly smarter. Don’t have a link, so I’m not sure if the study was any good. I think maybe Michael Lewis has written about this, actually….
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Oct 13, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? huh.
well, I’m a moron.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The smartest football players are
offensive lineman and yes Bloom you are a moron.
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY!
I was an offensive lineman…
In the middle ages, most Jeopardy contestants’ wagers were unassailable. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Others have followed up this argument in my absence,
but my main idea comes from analysis of the game. There is a huge amount of strategy in football, and almost every player needs to be a part of it.
Baseball requires extreme skills but they aren’t intellectual ones. Even the part of the game which is mental — the psychological contest between the pitcher and the hitter — is more of a rock-paper-scissors contest than a chess match. In chess, the guy who is more intelligent is going to have a definite advantage. In rock-paper-scissors, the advantage goes to the guy who has the knack of out-psyching the other guy, which is definitely a mental skill but not one strongly correlated to intelligence.
It’s pretty easy to imagine an athlete who is dumb but talented can still excel at baseball at any position. At any position but catcher, it is barely a disadvantage at all. So long as the player can be trained in the basic instincts of catch the ball and throw it to this guy in this situation and that guy in that situation, he’s pretty much good to go. You might have a few times where a dumb decision on the basepaths costs you, but those occasions will be rare.
In contrast, in what position in football is it not a significant disadvantage to be stupid? Certainly not the quarterback. Less obviously but just as emphatically, not the linemen, who have to be very attuned to the complicated strategy on the line. Not the defensive backs, who are called upon to read the situation and make decisions on where to cover. I suppose the receivers or running backs could coast a bit on talent, but even with them I think intelligence is more needed than it is for a baseball player. Pretty much the only guy on a football team who can afford to be dumb is the place kicker.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 13, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things have changed in the 20 years or so since I was around.
Linemen were stupid.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I resent this comment...LOL...as a former lineman!!
I would like to consider myself intelligent. : )
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(I was too, you know)
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just giving you a bad time...LOL...where did you play?
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by wacchampions on Oct 13, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The stupidest position.
Right guard. But I didn’t smell.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its better than being left guard...as in I sit on the left side of the bench and guard the water...
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Oct 13, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even receivers and running backs still need to know their lanes, routes, and/or blocking assignments on every play
and be able to adjust on the fly to an audible.
Hell, just the existence of audibles makes football plays like 10 times as difficult as baseball plays. In baseball, by the time you see what the other side is doing, they’re already doing it (and thus it’s too late to react).
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 13, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball players need to be able to read signs from coaches
not rocket science but it confuses me.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Oct 14, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Bannister disagrees with this.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course there are going to be some smart baseball players
The point is that baseball skill is pretty unrelated to intelligence, whereas football skill is at least somewhat related to it. Although it’s mostly rote memorization, which is itself only a minor subset of intelligence.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 13, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are plenty of nuances to both.
I don’t know of any standardized tests in baseball along the lines of the Wonderlic in football, but really all the Wonderlic shows is that a good deal of football players either don’t want or don’t need to worry about actually paying attention in school. Instead they just memorize playbooks, they become experts on ONE THING.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 13, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This opens the "define smart" morass
I completely agree that most NFL players have to balance more sophisticated goals and make more difficult decisions while playing. Bloom is right that Wonderlic tells a different story.
More generally, I don’t understand why society has decided that football players are buffoons while other physically gifted people are geniuses (say, orchestra/ballet/opera/etc).
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 13, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My image of opera divas definitely falls into the category of "buffoons," but perhaps I'm not typical...
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 13, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I happen to know several opera divas,
as well as numerous other professional opera singers who fall short of divinity. I would say that they are not noticeably more or less smart than the population on average, and there’s plenty of variety among them. I do think it’s true that the smarter ones are more likely to be successful, as in almost any profession. I think that’s mostly a matter of knowing how to promote themselves and network well.
I agree that talent doesn’t have much connection to intelligence, but success in the opera world is less dependent on talent than commonly assumed. A certain minimum level of talent is required, but excess talent beyond that ranks way down on the list of factors that determines who succeeds and who doesn’t. Number one factor is surely drive: more drive and less talent consistently and overwhelmingly beats out less drive and more talent.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 13, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh really?
If this wasn’t such a generalization I might actually be offended.
by Fooch on Oct 15, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the job
I’m glad to hear the good news.
by bear88 on Oct 12, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Belated congrats
Jobs are good. Jobs are very good.
by eastbayexpat on Oct 13, 2009 5:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This place needs links.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 13, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Oct 13, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad Monkey
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Oct 13, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
those look familiar.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What kind of a world do we live in where
a DLD about employment gets over 200 comments and a DLD titled “all goat edition” gets only 28? :-(
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 13, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a sad day, to be sure.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 13, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know clearly my staty seriousness ruined it...
probably for future generations as well.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least you're aware of the chaos you've caused.
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notice how all the links are staty/drafty links
Im in your house, subverting your memes.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACK!
(runs away screaming)
Maybe you can find one made by Go F**k Yourself San Jose... -Poppy
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told you to shoot him on sight.
But nooooooooo
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(he's full of stats!)
(run!)
In the middle ages, most Jeopardy contestants’ wagers were unassailable. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
history. and spare ribs.
In the middle ages, most Jeopardy contestants’ wagers were unassailable. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I'll take that
it could have been a lot worse.
by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I like DFA more than I like goats so I avoided that other post
I mean really is there anything as gross as goat cheese?
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DFA cheese
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 13, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense, dfa, but eww!
(and goat cheese is lovely, when used correctly).
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take out "cheese" and I couldn't agree more.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 13, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(copycat)
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Used correctly" = put on really good bread
and eaten in great amounts.
Especially if it’s really dense and smells a bit like ammonia!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 13, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean this
looks awesome and you wish you were at my house for me to make my fig prosciutto and goat cheese salad with a honey lemon vinaigrette.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the "Goat" movie comes out.....you can write the post and we'll all comment if it's any good!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 13, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or crumbled on top of frissee with sliced pears and champagne viniagrette,
OR stuffed inside figs wrapped in bacon and grilled, OR sliced in rounds, coated with panko and fried. I love it!
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 8:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean the awkward lettuce?
I eat goat cheese 5 days a week or so. Can hardly have a salad with out it.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the awkward lettuce.
The one we all aspire to.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You eat goat cheese 5 days a week?
Wow that’s more then Ive gotten down in my whole life. I don’t know I love cheese but I have never developed a taste for goat cheese.
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Its tangy, soft, and flexible. Seems like right up your alley.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey are you saying I'm soft?
I mean I am but it hurts that other people know it.
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know,
you can be soft…in a good way.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a soft and gooey center
filled with caramel
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may have to break you open
and scoop out the stuff inside you, then.
(Exhibit #1)
In the middle ages, most Jeopardy contestants’ wagers were unassailable. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we still talking about cheese?
Because, yeah, that IS right up my alley. Not cheese though.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 14, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you make me hungry.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no it's not. giver upper.
In the middle ages, most Jeopardy contestants’ wagers were unassailable. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a special on goat meat
at our small town supermarket today, but I didn’t buy any because I don’t know a good way to cook goat ribs, goat shanks or ground goat.. And we’ve had power failures all day, so till now I could not search online for a recipe. Any suggestions? For a recipe, I mean…
And I couldn’t even look in a book in my library, too dark in the stacks. We closed at 2:30pm..
by LibrariAN on Oct 13, 2009 8:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
um, I'm sorry, where do you live again?
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rio Vista
Is this the only goat eating town? There are goats galore in the fields around here.
by LibrariAN on Oct 13, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't the City of Oakland employ a herd of goats
to trim the grasses at Joaquin Miller Park and thereabouts?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 13, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nico's backyard.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol!
I’m surprised they allow goats in Rio Vista.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much anything
is allowed in Rio Vista. It is very don’t ask don’t tell here.
by LibrariAN on Oct 13, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had some goat meat at Taste of Chicago
this year. It was at a booth for some restaurant of the African variety. It pretty much tasted like lamb and they had some spicy sauce on it.
Don’t ask me why I was at Taste of Chicago. It was my girlfriend’s fault.
by colin on Oct 13, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Jose has Taste of Wyoming which sells Bison/Buffalo meats. Kinda strange place
but worth one try at least!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 13, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it doesn't smell like Wyoming
I’ve been through that state about a dozen times over the years and the whole state smells like manure
by sirbed on Oct 13, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I broke down in Wyoming once.
FYI, towing a trailer behind a Honda Civic through the Rockies is:
1. Not too bright;
2. A good way to get the locals to look at you as if you’re a jackass.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As if?
[ducks]
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Oct 13, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
egg zact lee.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which really isn't that rare anymore
bison is a fairly common meat, especially for burgers.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ToC's fun!
I went when I was 12. They had a cigarette stand set up, giving away little 10 packs of smokes. My mom made me and my brother get several for her, which they willingly gave us.
Again, I was 12.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just have a problem with the premise
They bill it as a celebration of all the really good food to be had in Chicago. And there is really, really good food in Chicago… but you’re not going to be able to get it at one of those stupid stands. Of course, the exception that proves the rule is the tacos. Nothing wrong with tacos, ever!
by colin on Oct 14, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know but braising would be my intuitive choice for everything but the ground.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next Chez Nico,
I will fix you braised lamb shanks, and we WILL beat Seatlle.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will bring mint sauce
Granny’s olde englyshe recipe. And we will have a fantastic season.
by LibrariAN on Oct 13, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'd be the green food.....what would the GOLD be??
Maybe yukon gold mashed potatoes??
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With garlic, half and half, and rosemary.
Where have you been all my life?
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmmmm - that sound fab!!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 13, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to cook - just don't do it up much!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." Gaylord Perry
by BERRYJO on Oct 13, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should have a braise-off
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh, I like that idea.
Oh wait. I thought you said “bras”.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Oct 13, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then I would have already won.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a question....don't you see that my hand is braised?
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Oct 13, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmm.....hand....
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 ideas for goat
1) Find a lamb recipe you like and use that
2) Do something Caribbean — it’s a traditional meat in Jamaica, and one of my college roommates said that his Trinidadian mom used to say, “A goat’s head a day is better than a cow’s head a year!”
I had to take her word on that one.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Oct 13, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you can steal the jaw.
Jaw meat is the best.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not hungry any more.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you fix this, I will come. Or visa versa...
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Goats down under
we don’t often have an Aussie link in the DLD. Thanks, lg.
by LibrariAN on Oct 13, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
braising it will keep it tender.
the taco truck down the street use to do goat when I was in PDX but haven’t cooked it myself. Can get stringy if not done right.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 13, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on the cut.
The thinner and leaner, the less time to cook. If we’re talking roast or shank, a long braise is best, for sure.
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goats down under?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 14, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
67m was right
when he called for more links in this DLD.
But the Aussie goat cookery link is v worthwhile.
Now I must head for my bed, as I have a perilous drive to an early mtg in f airfield tomorrow.
Goatnight all.
by LibrariAN on Oct 13, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Goatnight, Suzie!
And rest here in my arms…
by lynnzgal on Oct 13, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Standing on a corner,
Suitcase in my hand.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 10:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your bus is here......
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Oct 13, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wacchampino was just five years old, there wasn't nothing happening at all...
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 13, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the train's comin' round the bend
cuz I am just a city boy, really not the country kind. I miss the city streets and the neon lights.
by cityplANner on Oct 14, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.....
Bob Slydell: Milton Waddams.
Dom Portwood: Who’s he?
Bob Porter: You know, squirrely looking guy, mumbles a lot.
Dom Portwood: Oh, yeah.
Bob Slydell: Yeah, we can’t actually find a record of him being a current employee here.
Bob Porter: I looked into it more deeply and I found that apparently what happened is that he was laid off five years ago and no one ever told him about it; but through some kind of glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck.
Bob Slydell: So we just went ahead and fixed the glitch.
Bill Lumbergh: Great.
Dom Portwood: So, uh, Milton has been let go?
Bob Slydell: Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the glitch. So he won’t be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it’ll just work itself out naturally.
Bob Porter: We always like to avoid confrontation, whenever possible. Problem is solved from your end.
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Oct 13, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
300 comments?
And DFA thought nobody liked him.
Oh wait, that was me.
No, I’m not saying I don’t like DFA, I meant…never mind.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 14, 2009 5:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IF no one liked me would anyone's niece say hi?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my nieces wouldn't say hi to you.
But my nieces are 10, 8, and 4, respectively, and all live in Florida, so I’d actually be kinda disturbed if they even knew you.
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 14, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Likewise
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's Katie anyway?
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn you!
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 14, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know it's the offseason
when 3 of the 5 recommended posts are DLDs.
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by mikev on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Instead of "Can The A's Get To .500???"
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by Nico on Oct 14, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well can they?
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 14, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me, I'm anxiously waiting for the "If I were GM, I'd trade for Pujols!" threads.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Oct 14, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude you are giving up way too much in that Pujols trade
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by designatedforassignment on Oct 14, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could offer them
Daric Barton, Travis Buck, Eric Patterson, Dana Eveland, and Santiago Casilla.
If that’s not enough, we could sweeten the deal further with Clay Mortensen and Tommy Everidge.
I think that’s fair.
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by iglew on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. That's seven players -- I counted. Totally fair.
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by Nico on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you add up their batting averages,
you get, like, .390. That’s so much higher than Pujols.
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by danmerqury on Oct 14, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you add up their WARs you get 0.3
Sad but true.
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by iglew on Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I wouldn't go to WAR with those guys, would you?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently - not...
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by BERRYJO on Oct 14, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And most of it is Barton.
Actually all of it is Barton. Actually more than all of it is Barton. Remove Barton’s whopping 0.7 WAR and the remaining guys are net negative.
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by iglew on Oct 15, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's consistent with what I experienced.
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by Nico on Oct 15, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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