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Rickey Henderson to be Denied Unanimous Hall Vote

In October, I wrote that "Rickey Henderson Should be the First Unanimous Hall of Famer." His credentials are impeccable, finishing his long career with 1,406 stolen bases, far and away the most ever, and 2,295 runs scored, an all time major league record. Along the way, he also tallied 3,055 hits, 297 home runs, 81 of them leading off a game, and won World Series with both the A's and the Toronto Blue Jays. He was a ten-time All Star, and the MVP in 1990. Rickey loved the game and played until he was 44 years old.

I posited three months ago that there was no conceivable reason that any Hall of Fame voter could possibly submit their ballot without the name "Rickey Henderson" selected.

I said:

Any writer who knowingly casts a ballot that does not include Rickey should be banned from ever voting again in the future, and they should be openly mocked, for they do not know this game.

Yet, shockingly, it looks like we have already found a voter who didn't choose Rickey Henderson when it came time to enter his ballot. As mentioned in the DLD, Corky Simpson of the Green Valley News and Sun skipped over Rickey, in favor of such luminaries as Matt Williams, Jim Rice, and Allen Trammel. In his story explaining his ballot, he suggests other names might be elected, including elite players like Jesse Orosco, Dan Plesac and Greg Vaughn. (Kid you not - look it up.) He includes Rickey in that same category, of "Others honored with nomination this year and who may well be voted into the Hall of Fame".

Will Rickey make into the Hall of Fame? Absolutely. As he once said, after swiping base #939 and breaking Lou Brock's record, he was "the greatest of all time". But this kind of tomfoolery has me incensed. I cannot fathom how a voter can conclude that Matt Williams was a legitimate Hall of Famer, and Rickey was not... that Rickey's name could be bandied about with such pedestrian colleagues as Plesac and Orosco. It is an insult to the player and it is an insult to the game.

We may never again have a man like Rickey, and as I see his exploits replayed on the new MLB Network, I am reminded how much he transcended every game. In my lifetime, I have seen some amazing players who will never take the field again: Cal Ripken, Nolan Ryan, Rickey, for starters, all of whom should have been in the Hall unanimously. They say it doesn't matter - that the plaque is the same size, regardless of the vote - but shame on you, Corky Simpson, and shame on any other voter who knowingly, willingly commits what can only be seen as voter ineptitude bordering on fraud.

His answer, delivered after his idiocy was discovered: "I screwed up on the Henderson nonvote. You get to vote on 10 and I only picked eight. I probably did it too quickly." Really? You think? Take this guy's vote away. He has tarnished the game.

See also: Home Run Derby: Corky Simpson: The writer who didn’t vote for Rickey Henderson, where the author highlight's Corky's other lofty achievements... or the Mercury News: Rickey Henderson won't be unanimous to Hall of Fame.

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That guy is a total douche.

And the fact that he ‘probably did it too quickly’ tells me that voting doesn’t mean anything to him anymore.

by LoneStranger on Jan 9, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Simpson's boner"

But really not that big of a deal, as far as I’m concerned. Matt Williams- you’ve got to be kidding!

by Brian in 317 on Jan 9, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL!

TWSS

"You have to score to win"~Rickey Henderson

by lynnzgal on Jan 9, 2009 5:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the Epic FAIL of the year award goes to …

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Jan 9, 2009 1:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it a coincidence...

that his hairstyle is just like Ken Macha’s?

FIRE MACHA & CORKY NOW!!!!

Seriously this is lame.

by A'sian on Jan 9, 2009 3:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And yes, I know there was a Fanpost on it...

But it was worth following up on the prior story. What a disaster. It’s embarrassing.

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by louismg on Jan 9, 2009 2:00 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+100

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jan 9, 2009 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a dick

I could understand a policy of never voting for a player his first time on the ballot (wouldn’t make sense, but if that’s your policy, that’s your policy). I have a hard time understanding thinking Rickey doesn’t belong in the Hall.

But this jackass has no exucse. He just filled in eight names (when he had space for ten), and mailed in his ballot. Lazy, bullshit writers like this are the reason we end up with teams like Ohio State in the national championship game in 2006 and 2007… If this guy doesn’t want his vote, I’m sure there are thousands of people who are willing to spend the time and put their best effort into it. Take this donkey’s vote away — he doesn’t even care enough to consider the players or fill in his ballot properly.

Is it any wonder his name is Corky? Ah well, Life Goes On…

by Uncle Charlie on Jan 9, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh Bla Di, Oh Bla Da ...


This guy is not retarded. The writer named Corky, on the other hand …

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Jan 9, 2009 2:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't agree with the vilification, but I do agree with

taking his vote away.

It’s very obvious that the HoF ballot really isn’t that important to Corky. He just filled it out without much thought and hasn’t really paid attention to the baseball scene for a long time.

I don’t think that’s a crime. Lots of people don’t pay much attention to baseball, and lots of people fill out crap they get in the mail without paying much attention. I don’t blame him for that.

When people pointed out his error, his response was essentially “Oh yeah, you’re right, I hadn’t thought of that,” which proves that he wasn’t being malicious or intentionally slighting Rickey; he just had no idea what was going on.

If unanimity is such a big freaking deal — and I think this episode proves that it isn’t — then the HoF should take more care about giving away the ballots. Have some sort of qualifying test or renewal requirement to stay eligible for voting.

But if they hand out a ballot to any guy who was a fine sportswriter 20 years ago but today isn’t paying attention, then they have no one to blame for it but themselves.

(And by the way, Rickey is my favorite baseball player of all time. That has nothing to do with my opinion of Corky.)

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jan 9, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I got no beef with someone who thinks Rickey doesn’t belong in the HOF and voting that way. That’s a personal opinion (albeit an incorrect one).

But, I do have a problem with this lazy, gold-bricker not caring enough to fill out his ballot properly. That’s a f’ing joke. It’s the HOF ballot, not some ballot from Neilsen Ratings asking whether you watched “The Biggest Loser” or “Wife-Swapping Nannies” last night.

Pay attention, take care, or lose your vote. Corky doesn’t deserve his vote anymore.

by Uncle Charlie on Jan 9, 2009 2:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm.

I think “+1” means you agree with me, but your post seems to have a very different tone.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jan 9, 2009 6:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(golf clap)

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jan 9, 2009 4:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No way in hell

this guy didn’t omit Henderson on purpose. No way.
The only thing worse than “forgetting” Rickey was eligible is thinking up some horribly lame excuse to cover up your lie. This guy wanted to make sure no one gets in unanimously. Period. And he wanted to be the one “infamous” for making sure it happened. I can’t believe some of you are buying it …

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Jan 9, 2009 4:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I don’t buy the “aw, shucks” routine.

by Svidrigailov on Jan 9, 2009 6:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once again, I am too subtle.

My point is that if unanimity of votes is important, then you need to take care who you allow to vote.

If A then B :: if not-B then not-A

Therefore, if you don’t take care of who you allow to vote, then unanimity of votes is not important. QED.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jan 9, 2009 7:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not so.

It’s obvious he at least thought about Rickey:

He includes Rickey in that same category, of “Others honored with nomination this year and who may well be voted into the Hall of Fame”.

He more than likely left him off on purpose. How could you even list him like that (other people who may get in) and then not suddenly go, “Duh! Of course he’s in.” I mean, assuming he’s got even a smidge of credibility.

Why? It doesn’t really matter why. It’s just another example of baseball being perpetually 20 years behind the times.

As for Williams. It’s obvious he’s a HOFer, and probably better than Rickey when it’s all said and done. I mean, Teddy Ballgame even took time off for the war!

99 MPH with as much control as a deflating balloon - CurveballKing on H-Rod

by Scottbass on Jan 9, 2009 11:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree that the guy’s reasoning for the non-vote is lame. Henderson is the greatest leadoff hitter in the histroy of baseball. However, if Hank Aaron wasn’t elected unanimously, then I can’t justify how any other player from the modern era should be.

by StickRat on Jan 9, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would take Rickey OVER Hank Aaron any damn day of the week.

The argument that “well, nobody had been a unanimous vote yet” is ridiculous.
IF ANY player should have been unanimous, Rickey would be it.
His SB record is going to last A LOT longer than Aaron’s HR record stood.

"RIP: UserID: 553"

by Masaryk on Jan 9, 2009 2:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, nothing wrong with some good old-fashioned homerdom.

by StickRat on Jan 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, not homerdom, just common sense

Corky is gonna be the only guy who doesn’t vote for Rickey, so this will only get worse.
I doubt the other 63 or so voters do not claim the A’s their favorite team.

"RIP: UserID: 553"

by Masaryk on Jan 10, 2009 12:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you about the guy dropping the ball on not voting for Henderson. But Henderson over Aaron?! That’s what I meant by homerdom.

by StickRat on Jan 10, 2009 1:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The whole tradition of "nobody has been unanimous" should end.

I don’t care how many people made mistakes before, that’s not a rallying cry for a few dozen ding dongs to continue to louse it up. There is no fathomable good reason that one can make, having studied the game, to not pick Rickey. And Matt Williams? Seriously?

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by louismg on Jan 9, 2009 3:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Justifying it is easy...

…the people who didn’t vote for Ruth/Mays/Aaron/etc were idiots… Why should a voter want to follow in their footsteps?

Simple question: Is player X a Hall of Famer? If yes, and you have a slot available, then you vote for him. Else don’t. Any other reasoning is pure B.S.

by calgbear on Jan 9, 2009 3:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Corky probably was around and didn't vote for either of them either.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jan 9, 2009 3:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Corky voted for Matt Williams

a 1st timer. So he doesn’t even have that excuse.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jan 9, 2009 4:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly it's not that big a deal

I concluded a while back that I would totally stop carrying about the HOF and All Star games. They are little more than popularity contests. Sure, it’s unfortunate that Rickey will not be unanimous, but when hundreds of Yankees fans submit ballots containing ARod, Teix, Jeter, Cano, Nady, Swisher, Matsui, Posada, Damon as their AS roster, will I get mad? No, I’ll laugh and think nothing of it.

And while the Baseball HOF is the best run HOF in sports today (although I don’t know how hockey’s works), it’s still a joke. I don’t really care, I’ll pay attention a little and even argue when I’m bored, but in the end, it’s just to keep me entertained. I’d gladly trade 5 A’s wins next year for Rickey not making at all. I know how great he was and so does everyone but Corky Simpson. There’s always 67Marquez’s account, video replays, and internet stories to remind me when I forget. I don’t need a bunch of to writers to tell me that he reached an arbitrary greatness level. I know he did. Though it would be a shame to not be able hear his acceptance speech. That I’m looking forward to. Plus his uniform will be retired this year.

I still think would be cool if after Rickey was voted in the A’s let him play in 2-3 games to retire in an A’s cap. He’d become the only HOF to play a game after he was elected. That would be style. That would be Rickey. And imagine the ticket/jersey sales.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jan 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Hockey has a HOF?

I didn’t think they could afford one.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jan 9, 2009 4:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's in Toronto (of course)

It used to be in Exhibition Place, which was also where the Blue Jays played. They’ve both subsequently moved.

Thanks for tomorrow 'cause I've had enough

by andeux on Jan 9, 2009 4:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, hockey has a host of fractures.

99 MPH with as much control as a deflating balloon - CurveballKing on H-Rod

by Scottbass on Jan 9, 2009 11:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spring Training aside...

…the state of Arizona hasn’t had Major League baseball to speak of for very long (and certainly not during Rickey’s prime). Why would a reporter who worked in a non-baseball market for the majority of his career be qualified to be a voter in the first place?

I would think a prerequisite for being a voter would be having spent a significant amount of time at the ballpark, speaking with players/coaches, attending games, etc. Otherwise, wouldn’t anyone with a TV or radio be qualified to vote?

by natedogg1 on Jan 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOF Response to Email re: Revoking Vote of Corky Thatcher-Simpson

Thank you for your note. Only the Baseball Writers’ Association of America can revoke their members’ voting privileges. However, many fans agree with you about Mr. Simpson. Ironically, no Hall of Fame candidate has ever received a unanimous election.
 
Thank you for your interest in the Baseball Hall of Fame!
 
Sincerely, Your Friends at the Hall of Fame

by Uncle Charlie on Jan 9, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was surprised they responded...

At the end of the day, this is basically a big “whatever.”
Rickey’s going to get into the HOF.
Corky’s a jackass.
No reason to get worked up about it.

by Uncle Charlie on Jan 9, 2009 3:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This line is surprising...

“However, many fans agree with you about Mr. Simpson”. Sounds like editorial!

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by louismg on Jan 9, 2009 3:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like

“We think he’s a total and complete douche, but can’t really say it because responsible organizations like the BHOF can’t roll like that.”

Corky’s a douche. So what? Let him have his 15 minutes of Alzheimer’s-induced fame, real or not.

We all know the Truth, big T. Rickey’s probably the best player to ever don an A’s uni. He’s almost certainly the best lead-off man ever. Posnanski had it right when he said you might not start him in your all-time outfield, but he damn sure well better be in your starting nine. He was, without a shred of doubt or hesitation in my mind, the best baseball player I ever saw play. And there really is no second place contender there. Everyone else, including that guy who made all the trouble across the Bay there a couple years ago, is way way way down on that list.

 It ain’t bragging if you can do it, indeed.

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 9, 2009 8:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just to be persnickety

Of course, Rickey is the best Oakland Athletic. But when you start talkin’ all time Athletics, I gotta agree with devo and take Lefty Grove. Splitting hairs further, if you’re asking for the best player to ever don an A’s uni, I’d say you can’t beat the Georgia Peach, Mr. Tyrus Cobb.

Yeah, that’s right, even in 1927 the A’s were signing baseball greats past their prime. Cobb was 40 when he signed on with Philadelphia and played his final two seasons in blue and white (er.., that’s 1920’s for green and gold). Also on the ‘27 team were HOF Eddie Collins (40, the Giambi of yore), HOF Zach Wheat (39), Jack Quinn (43, went 15-10 that year), and Baby Doll Jacobson (36). The following year, Tris Speaker followed Cobb to Philly and signed on at age 40. Cobb and Speaker, longtime friends and all-time greats, were able to play as teammates for the first time on the 1928 Philadelphia Athletics. After finishing three games short of a WS bid (the damn Yanks bested us with Murderer’s Row), both hung up the cleats (spiked in Cobb’s case) that year. They exited the game together in A’s uniforms.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jan 10, 2009 12:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Back in my day, we wore an onion on our belt.

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 10, 2009 12:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a store here, right on one of the main arteries,

called Persnickety Cat.

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 10, 2009 12:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In all maybe its good

  Reading that Mays/Aaron/Robinson/Ruth were not voted in 100. It would make it more of a bonehead if Rickey got 100 and not them. Writers like this idiot who makes such bonehead actions should have their voting taken away from them. After reading another article about how he didn’t look up the stats as good as he should have says he doesn’t take it seriously.

by Arcman on Jan 9, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's amazing about it

Is that the note in October saying if you voted against Rickey you clearly weren’t qualified gets proven so easily! He didn’t vote for Rickey, and now he says he didn’t do his homework. Brilliant!

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by louismg on Jan 9, 2009 3:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First things first

Would I rec this post if I had it to do all over again? Damn right, I would.

This post deserves to be rec’d and if I had my ballot back, louismg would have a shot at unanimity — and I wouldn’t be hated by quite so many people.

If I had properly researched the situation, I would have rec’d this if for no other reason than its reference to Dan Plesac.

Seriously, he’s a wonderful writer and I simply goofed. I voted for “Chat with Ziggy” instead.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jan 9, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blimey

You do get your knickers in a twist pretty quickly. I can’t get excited about the Hall of fame, a somewhat bogus concept, let alone getting into a lather because Rickey didn’t get a unanimous vote.

Any similarity between my spelling and that deemed correct, is pureley accidental.

by Dalesman on Jan 9, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't choose

whether getting my knickers in a twist is better than getting into a lather. What are we getting into again?

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by louismg on Jan 9, 2009 6:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's hard to fathom not voting for Rickey...

…but to expect a unanimous vote, based on voting patterns in the past, is basically guaranteeing disappointment.

Corky Simpson’s vote is proof that the criteria for Hall of Fame voter eligibility needs fixing, but it should be to make sure the vote is as legitimate as possible, not to ensure that any player gets in unanimously.

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jan 9, 2009 5:54 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And never will be.

At least not as an inductee. He could be inducted to the Radio Hall of Fame, though.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Jan 10, 2009 10:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You guys are really shocked by this?

The fact that at least one guy out of 500 is an idiot?

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Jan 9, 2009 7:24 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shocked? No. Absolutely not.

Disappointed? Sure!

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by louismg on Jan 9, 2009 7:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not even disappointed

Considering how every great player in the history of the game got the same treatment, I had no expectation that Rickey would be different.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Jan 10, 2009 10:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this may turn out ok

now that everyone knows this clown left Rickey off his ballot, and their idiotic stance against unanimous selections remains intact, maybe no one else will feel the need to leave Rickey off their ballots….

I know that’s pushing it, but it still could be cool percentage-wise. Rickey needs 537 out of 543 to get 98.89%, which would be the highest percentage of votes ever.

by scatterbrian on Jan 9, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Simpson attempts to defend his vote

here:

Still, though, Simpson thinks, the anger directed at him is absurd. He’s just one guy, he says—his vote isn’t going to keep Henderson out of the HOF, so why make such a big deal about it? "No one in the history of baseball has ever gotten into the Hall of Fame on a unanimous vote," he notes. "I mean, we’re talking about Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb and Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson—nobody. And if anyone out there thinks that Rickey Henderson can carry one of those guys’ shoes, he’s crazy."
The Internet is like a sewer. It’s very necessary, but you wouldn’t want to spend a lot of time there."

The more he talks, the more he gives off the impression that he’s a senile old fool.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jan 9, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crazy old coot.

Probably got applesauce in his sports jacket pockets.

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 9, 2009 8:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

So now his vote doesn't matter

First he fails to do his job with any appearent diligence and now he’s saying his vote doesn’t matter.

Sounds like the guy is begging to lose his position as a HOF voter.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jan 9, 2009 9:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When I was a boy,

we all wore an onion on our belt!

Of course, that was the style then…

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 9, 2009 9:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They didn't have white onions because of the war.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jan 10, 2009 12:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As a member of the generation old enough to remember Logan's Run,

I’d like to remind all the young bucks here that some day you too will be a senile old fool.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Jan 10, 2009 12:38 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When was the last time you watched it?

Unlike fine wine, it’s not aged well.

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 10, 2009 12:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

* shrug *

I accept that; don’t have a problem with people calling me a senile old fool when I become one.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jan 10, 2009 8:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey... guess what!

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jan 10, 2009 1:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say it then.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jan 10, 2009 5:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, one out of those 3 words don't really apply to me ATM.

Guess which. :)

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Jan 10, 2009 5:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a man has to have something to help the petite vanilla bean scones go down @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 12, 2009 11:06 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obviously, the main reason this f***er didn't vote for Ricky

is pure racism. Makes me think of the 1991 Public Enemy hit “By The Time I Get to Arizona” which was about the fact that the Arizona state legislature decided that MLK day was not worth celebrating. Looks like racism is still running rampit down there. I mean come on… Matt Williams? Rickey WAS the greatest player of our era. He played the game right. He lived baseball. Anyone old enough to remember Rickey in the green and gold knew that he would be a difference maker, in a major way. Stats aside, he was a straight up baller. He was a HR threat, and a nightmare for a battery to hold on 1st base. Who else in MLB history can you say that about?

by VallejoA'sFan on Jan 9, 2009 10:45 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Racism?

Raines, Rice and Dawson not black enough for you?

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jan 9, 2009 11:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, to be fair,

Raines and Dawson spent a great deal of time in Canada. Corky was probably unaware they were black.

I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico

by Leopold Bloom on Jan 9, 2009 11:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was hilarious.

99 MPH with as much control as a deflating balloon - CurveballKing on H-Rod

by Scottbass on Jan 9, 2009 11:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lewl

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not voting Mays or Aaron

  When Hank Aaron was not voted in that is true racism. The guy had the homerun record without any steroid issues back in the day. Mays how could anyone not see he was a first timer. With this writer I think he just threw down some names and didn’t even look at who he put down. Not racism just stupidity and laziness.

by Arcman on Jan 10, 2009 9:39 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lolz at this guy.

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

corky is such a dork, he just wants to be know as the guy who didnt vote for ricky. instead he voted for matt williams

by Wreckonized on Jan 10, 2009 2:08 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ruth, Cobb, Mantle, Mays, Robinson

This is such ridiculous logic …
1) Using this logic, we never elected a non-white president prior to 2008, why start now?
2) Mistakes were made in the past, Corky prefers to repeats them, apparently.
3) So now the criteria is comparing Rickey to the greats instead of on his own merits? Since when is that selectively chosen criteria for HOF admission?

I could begrudgingly live with
A) A blank ballot
B) An all-pitcher ballot
C) A no first year ballot
D) An all-white ballot (racist, but consistent)
E) A completely full, non-Rickey ballot (ludicrous, but maybe some logic behind it)

Instead, we got inconsistent, none-of-the-above logic. Instead of going by the assumed logic of – does player X deserve to be in the HOF and is he one the ten best players on the ballot, he went by some absurd logic of – “who needs my help getting in?”

Corky is a grade-A fool, and like it or not, he will forever be tagged as that guy who didn’t vote Rickey in. Yeah, I’ll call it now .. Rickey will receive the highest percentage ever and fewest no votes (likely 3 or less). Corky can only hope another writer jumped on the crazy wagon with him.

by Rickeyfan on Jan 10, 2009 4:38 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

He is NEVER going to live it down, and he’ll be remembered primarily for this one act of stupidity. Talk about pissing on your own grave.

by Brian in 317 on Jan 10, 2009 8:38 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol he rushed thru it..

wtf does that mean? Like you need time to understand who the ONE AND ONLY CLEAR- CUT HOFer ON THE BALLOT IS.

eminds me of like 3 or 4 years ago when PJ Brown of the Hornets got 1 mvp vote over like Tim Duncan, Kobe, etc…

that's gold jerry, gold!!!

by 9Custs on Jan 10, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*reminds

that's gold jerry, gold!!!

by 9Custs on Jan 10, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I the only one...

Who doesnt give a flying fuck?

Honestly, I couldnt care less HOW he’s voted in, as long as he IS voted in. Why the hell does it matter?

Never, Never, NEVER give up

by hero66 on Jan 10, 2009 11:28 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no common sense

he will be voted in but should get all the recognition he well deserves

Time to compete now !

by UniqueDefiance on Jan 10, 2009 11:29 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He will be voted in

That’s all that matters. Why should it matter if he’s voted in unanimously?

It’s like complaining about a bad call in a game where you win 15-0. It’s stupid.

Never, Never, NEVER give up

by hero66 on Jan 10, 2009 11:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A response from Dorky Simpson...

…as published on Rickey Henderson Collectibles Blog

Brad: I can’t think of any good reason I didn’t vote for Rickey Henderson. The eight men I did vote for are all very deserving. Rickey is, too. So, if it is essential that he should enter the Hall of Fame on a unanimous ballot, then I goofed things up.

Some day some historian will attempt to find out why 11 voters failed to give Babe Ruth unanimity when he was elected to the Hall of Fame. In that same class of ’36, Ty Cobb missed unanimity by four votes, Honus Wagner 11, Walter Johnson 37 and Christy Mathewson 23. Why did Willie Mays miss by 23, Mickey Mantle 43, Jackie Robinson 36 and Cal Ripken Jr. by eight?

When I was a kid, there were three giants who walked the earth: Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams and Stan Musial. None made it to the Hall of Fame unanimously. Joe missed by 28 votes, Ted Williams by 20 and Musial 23. Why? Well, a bunch of people goofed up. Rickey made about $41 million in his career, I think, and he’ll be in the Hall of Fame. What a wonderful life he has had.

Hope I’ve helped you, Brad.— Corky Simpson

by elcroata on Jan 10, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh please

Ricky will get into the hall, on the first ballot, with well over 95% of the votes. Corky Simpson will not be the only person who didn’t vote for him.

And it hardly matters.

by SkipT on Jan 10, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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