Why Billy should trade Holliday
by mr. pickles on Jan 7, 2009 5:53 PM PST
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It comes as no surprise to us to know that in a few years the A's should be very good. A new influx of talented pitching with some intriguing position players should provide the A's faithful with a future to look forward to. But what about this year? 2009 should be interesting as well, especially with the additions of Matt Holliday and Jason Giambi to the 09 lineup.
Even with these additions, we still see gaping holes at SS for now and the forseable future, at 1B now (unless Barton turns into a stud), and in the rotation now. We have control of the undisputed top free-agent to be in Matt Holliday, and still possess some flexibility in terms of payroll for this year. I believe that the A's have a good team right now, but not a great one.
I pose a possible solution, and I'd love to know what the distinguished members of AN think. It goes like this: trade Holliday, sign Dunn/Sheets/Abreu, and improve the team essentially by adding nothing in terms of payroll. Here's how it works:
Holliday makes $9.5 million this year, making him both affordable and one of the highest paid A's on the roster. I am of the opinion that $9.5 million would buy at least close to one year of the three mentioned above.
Holliday is the only impact player in next year's pansy free agent crop, so the competition will be fierce. In my mind, this leads to teams like Boston and others competing heavily to get him before he becomes a FA, since there are few (if any) players even close to his caliber.
My proposal - Billy trades Matt Holliday and a couple others for some sort of package containing a ML-caliber shortstop, a first baseman who can hit, and maybe some short of young pitching. A team such as Boston could offer Jed Lowrie, Clay Buccholz, Justin Masterson, Nick Hagadone, or Lars Anderson. All highly regarded, all nearly ML ready or already there.
After the trade, Dunn or Sheets become more affordable with an extra $9.5 million in the coffers. If such a situation comes up, it seems like a win-win situation. The offense is still improved, pitching shored up, provision for the future. Sounds amazing to me, if its doable. What do you think?
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Boston has Jason Bay, Jacoby Ellsbury, and JD Drew.
They’ve got a good chance at winning the AL East already. Why would they trade a package like that for Holliday when they can just sign him next year when he’s a free agent?
by mikev on Jan 7, 2009 6:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He said "Or," not "And"
“And” would be pretty ridonkulous.
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by PaulThomas on Jan 7, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The point still stands. Boston's offense is fairly stacked, especially at the corner OF positions
and DH, if Ortiz is healthy.
by mikev on Jan 7, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was taking into account the fact that Lowell and Ortiz are health question marks.
I also figured that it would be easy to shift Bay to 1st, where I believe the played some as a Pirate. As for Boston, its just a suggestion since they have things that the A’s need. I’d be fine with a similar package from basically anyone.
by mr. pickles on Jan 7, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i am pretty sure that never took place
but i’m gonna look it up. i don’t think bay’s ever played first.
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by flipgatey3 on Jan 7, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
They wouldnt part with Elsbury in trying to get Johan Santana. Why would they trade him for Holiday, who isnt 100% guaranteed to sign with them after the season.
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by SoCal As Fan on Jan 8, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't personally think Holliday will be moved before the season starts
If Beane had a move in mind, he would have made it by now. Giambi on a short deal and the trading of Carlos Gonzalez signifies to me that Beane has the intention of trying for it now. Yes, Shortstop is a gaping hole, but at the moment it’s not as bad since it’s really our only hole if Chavez stays healthy. I’m not saying that Holliday won’t be gone by the Break, but Crosby (or whoever we decide to put there) as the 8 hitter really isn’t that bad (as long as we aren’t relying on him, which we aren’t now.)
Plus, can’t we just enjoy having a superstar? This seems like another instance in which A’s fans just can’t accept the fact that we need a presence. We’ve become so accustomed over the year to trading big names for collections of promising youngsters. Considering we gave up a promising young pitcher, a ML ready reliever (Street,) and a very promising young Hitter (Gonzalez) to get Holliday, I think Beane intends on running with it for a bit.
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by Rebuilding Season on Jan 7, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It has nothing to do with "presence"
It has everything to do with Holliday being awesome at baseball.
Why do people insist on making this stuff some paranormal silliness?
by thejd44 on Jan 7, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you insist on assuming I'm being silly?
By presence I simply meant a point in the lineup for the team to revolve around. Clearly Holliday is great for this team because he often hits the ball hard and where the fielder’s cant get to it quickly enough. If you would read the rest of the paragraph it was about having a player for fans to cheer for as a famous and well-regarded name.
Like it or not, the average fan roots for Holliday purely because he’s famous, and will root for Giambi for the same reason. Go out some time and ask the average schmuck which players they’re the most excited about, and I’d say less than 1% will say Trevor Cahill, Brett Anderson and Chris Carter, whereas most will say Matt Holliday and Jason Giambi. This is referred to as “Giants Fan Syndrome” by some, as many Giants fans got as excited about Matt Morris as they did Matt Cain their first years.
Obviously the ability to hit the ball well, run quickly, and pick up balls before they drop a majority of the time is the most valuable quality for winning a championship, but people come to the ballpark to watch famous people more often than good people.
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by Rebuilding Season on Jan 7, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Holliday is making $13 million this year
which, I guess, just adds to the OP’s point. And he’s right— the A’s probably wouldn’t lose more than about 2 wins by hiring Dunn instead, he’d cost the same or less and probably sign on for 3 years or so, and they could fill a hole with the guy they get for Holliday if he was the right dude, potentially getting those two wins right back.
I agree with mikev, however, that Boston is not the team to phone up.
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by PaulThomas on Jan 7, 2009 6:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to think of a potentially available shortstop..
JJ Hardy or Asdrubal Cabrera are the only ones I can think of.
by mikev on Jan 7, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the Brewers want Holliday?
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Jan 7, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So they could trade Fielder to SF for Cain and move Braun to 1B where he belongs?
I dunno, don’t make me justify potential trades. I’m HORRIBLE at that.
by mikev on Jan 7, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Braun is OK in LF. He was just bad at 3B.
They could put Gamel at 1B though.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 7, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The reason he's moving Braun is that Holliday needs a position.
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by PaulThomas on Jan 7, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right. I was responding to the "where he belongs" part. He could also move to RF
with Gamel at 1B. Hart isn’t a fixture.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 7, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Yunel Escobar for Holliday, Crosby, and his salary?
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by vignette17 on Jan 7, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
throw in one more marginal prospect from the braves
and done. Sign Dunn and call it an offseason. we’d be contending for this year and reloaded/rebuilt for the years coming. the next two positions on tap to worry about would be 3b and 2b, but thats about it.
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by DyeLongJustice on Jan 7, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A lineup with Giambi, Cust, and Dunn back to back to back would be the funniest shit ever
and enraging.
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by ChadGod on Jan 8, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After all of Beane's moves
…this could be the 2009 Opening Day lineup:
RF Dunn
LF Cust
1B Giambi
CF Swisher
3B Huff
DH Stairs
2B Cano
SS Millar (still an upgrade at Short)
C Varitek
…smokin…worst defense ever but feel the power surge against righties.
by Athletic Supporter on Jan 8, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Making the total trade picture as follows:
CarGon, Street, Smith, and Crosby [essentially a DFA without the financial obligations] for Escobar?
It just seems somewhat imbalanced, like the Athletics are taking it on the chin. At this point, though, I do think that this would make the team better but it just seems like it was rather costly. It also seems to me that Holliday/Crosby would garner more than just Escobar. Perhaps I’m underestimating a one-year rental on Holliday and the economic bad that is Crosby’s contract.
by LowcountryJoe on Jan 7, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have made that trade in a New York minute if Atlanta had offered it at the start of the offseason
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by PaulThomas on Jan 7, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How can you possibly think the A's are on the short-end here?
Street, Smith and Crosby practically cancel out.
Escobar is what Cargon might become.
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by ChadGod on Jan 8, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus or Hu
Dodgers just signed Furcal. Its one year versus 6 though.
by Lovejoy on Jan 7, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sensing a Buck or Barton for DeJesus trade
with other stuff to even it up. Dodgers have Loney and Pierre and can’t be happy with both. One or the other OK, but not both. They also probably want insurance in case they don’t get Manny.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 7, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh . . .
do you really think that we could get a year of Dunn, Sheets and Abreu for a total of $10m? Am I reading that correctly? Because if I am, I have to disagree.
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by humdinger on Jan 7, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was saying one or two of the 3 could be purchased for the total of Holliday's salary
and some extra, which the A’s claim to have.
by mr. pickles on Jan 7, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
red sox ready to sign baldelli
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by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why all this Sheets talk
We could have just kept Harden instead.
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by What Would Rickey Do on Jan 7, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
but then were sans gallagher
and would still need another sp
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Harden=Gump's box of chocolates
We’ll see this year just what the Athletics missed out on with Harden. But after 2009 [his contract would be fulfilled], Harden was either going to become unaffordable (because he would be both healthy and dominate) or he would remain the box-o’-chocolates (dominate but not healthy).
In the mean time the A’s got some prospects to include Gallagher but also gave up Gaudin to make it happen. Besides, Sheets, in spite of his fragility, has something like 30 more games started over the last four years than does the Box-o’-chocolates.
by LowcountryJoe on Jan 7, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
except instead of 'you never know WHAT you're going to get'
it’s ‘you never know HOW MANY you’re going to get.’ If Harden’s on the mound, he’s dominating.
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by JJ on Jan 8, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets is much more likely to stay healthy over the course
of a season than Harden. A pitcher is worth nothing if he’s not pitching.
by mr. pickles on Jan 7, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why is he "much more likely"?
He’s slightly more likely, but over the past 4 seasons he’s pitched more than 24 games just once.
by thejd44 on Jan 7, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Semantics aside,
Sheets has pitched much more innings than Harden the last 4 seasons. Of course, Sheets ended the season with an injury.
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by rfloh on Jan 7, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I remember correctly, Rich never has.
by mr. pickles on Jan 7, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was healthy in 2004
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 7, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which was the ONLY hear he topped 20 starts in a season.
Sheets has topped that EVERY year but 1. Don’t even try to tell me that Harden is even close to as healthy as Sheets is, because nothing backs that up.
by mr. pickles on Jan 7, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Except that Harden was healthy at the end of the season and Sheets wasn't.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 7, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the thing people forget when they say we should have kept harden
is that we wouldnt have gallagher. so wed still be down 1 sp, possibly even two (with harden’s health)
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We'd have Gaudin.
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by Elvez on Jan 7, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eh
gaudin was certainly good at points, but he was moved to the pen in both oakland and chicago. i think teams see him most valuable as a reliever.
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many DHs does one team need?
We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth
by oldjacket on Jan 7, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
how many over the hill senior citizens does one team need?
take that giants fan! ; )
but in all seriousness, the answer is: as many as it takes to take our minds off the fact that bobby crosby is our starting shortstop
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Dunn is the opiate of the masses, eh?
Seems like Holliday is a lot better to have around than guys like Dunn/Abreu because he can field a position and field it reasonably well. Trying to fit two of Dunn/Giambi/Cust on the field at one time might lead to some very sad pitchers.
We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth
by oldjacket on Jan 7, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
his 40 hr are certainly appealing
and id agree id much rather have holliday. unfortunately, it’s not our choice. and yes dunn/giambi/cust would cause an epidemic of depression throughout the pitching staff
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And sad pitchers make sad panda very, very sad
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by Nico on Jan 7, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine Dunn and Cust in the same outfield?
Better remove all sharp objects from the bullpen.
We don't really have that much pitching depth. We don't really have that much pitching depth. FOR GOD SAKE, VERUCA, DON'T GO FAKE TRADING JONATHAN SANCHEZ. We don't really have that much pitching depth
by oldjacket on Jan 7, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this implies they have the range to make it to the pen
so i think were safe
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it implied the relievers would all commit mass suicide
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by Nico on Jan 7, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it sure did, and if i were smart i would have inferred that
but its not looking like i am right now. it also doesnt help that im reading an incredibly dense us politics book while i comment
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
by travdog6 on Jan 7, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you must have a strong constitution
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by Nico on Jan 7, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I myself sybscribe to the urinary executive theory
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by monkeyball on Jan 8, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
... and to some idiosyncratic schools of spelling and typing
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by monkeyball on Jan 8, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard enough to get big name FAs here because of the facility... lack of fans...
our record last year…
so what makes anyone think that we can lure the 3 biggest names left?
PS – If we could get a haul like that for Holliday… I say do it and forget about 2009. BUT I can’t imagine Beane getting any more for Holliday now than what he gave up in November.
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by brenarlo on Jan 7, 2009 9:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Might not get "more," but if it's a long-term solution at shortstop... the implied overpay might be worth it
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by PaulThomas on Jan 7, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beane's taking two bites out of the apple
I think the Cabrera talk— and even Abreu for that matter— combined with the Holliday and Giambi signings (and the attempt for Furcal) suggest that Beane is trying to win in 2009 without injuring the core for 2010 going forward too much. If Buck or Cunningham sit as a 4th outfielder or even spend time in AAA this year, so be it. If Barton has to be moved since Doolittle may be an adequate solution for next year and beyond, so be it.
I think the genesis of all this is economic. There won’t be a new ballpark for at least 3 more years, and probably at least 2 more than that. Which means that this team cannot afford to be mediocre or worse and see the fan base shrink further— bad economy or no bad economy, Wolff and Fisher have determined that they have to spend some money now to reenergize the franchise, hopefully either make the playoffs or get pretty damn close, and then get ready to build on that with a serious multi-year run beginning in 2010.
In effect (Appier, Olivares, Velarde) we are partying like it’s 1999.
by windyfelix on Jan 8, 2009 8:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think people are putting way too much stock into Doolittle.
We’re talking about a kid that had a subpar beginning in low A as a 20 year old, a spectacular season in A+ as a 21 year old, and then was subpar again when called up to AA.
Barring any more setbacks, he’ll need at least a full season in AA in 2009 and a full season in AAA in 2010, making him a rookie in 2011 at the earliest
by mikev on Jan 8, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly, but...
There’s Carter too.
Point being that Giambi is here in part because the A’s don’t feel wedded to Barton— if they can move him to shore up the middle infield or get another pitching prospect, they’ll do it.
by windyfelix on Jan 8, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Slusser reported that Barton is still going to play 1B with Giambi DHing and Cust in RF.
Which means that it could actually be Buck that they’re not wedded to.
by mikev on Jan 8, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but she didn't source that claim at all
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by monkeyball on Jan 8, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot he also hit 8 home runs in the AFL
and, offensive league or no, his OPS+ in the league was 120.
Nobody spends full seasons in AAA anymore, man. If he produces, he’ll get called up by Sept. ’09, maybe early 2010 at the latest.
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by PaulThomas on Jan 8, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True Enough, but....
Bottom line is that Buck-Cunningham-Sweeney-Barton are all now on a fairly short leash. If Cust is close to an everyday player, Holliday is an everyday player, and Giambi, if relatively healthy, might get 450-500 PAs, then only 2+ spots remain for those four. So let the competition begin. If Barton is doing a 2002 Pena, then he’s fungible. If Buck falters again, then Cunningham might have a shot, etc, etc.. If one of them can be moved in a package to improve the long-term situation at SS, great.
It’s called “deep depth” and there’s nothing wrong with it.
by windyfelix on Jan 8, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just my two cents on this post
Matt Holliday is not going anywhere before this year starts, folks. Ain’t gonna happen…
Either sign Sheets and stick with Crosby this year or find a creative way to trade for J.J. Hardy without blowing up the farm, and still sign Sheets. If Sheets cannot be signed and the rest of the FA SP options don’t look appetizing, then so be it.
You go with that rotation of youngens’ and you have added on more very potent rh stick and have shored up SS for the next 2 years with a possibility of extending Hardy as well. A win win situation in my opinion.
by mrod on Jan 9, 2009 12:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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