MLB Network: A Review (so far)
When the MLB Network debuted recently, it was somewhat surprising to me that I even noticed. I generally am not all that interested in television outside of History Channel and Dexter. I don't watch baseball much (I prefer the radio). What was more surprising was the fact that I was somewhat anticipating watching the studio show to see how it was different than the drivel that passes for baseball coverage on ESPN. Here is my rambling thoughts, I am interested to hear all of yours.
So, as a novice critic, I had to think a bit about what is important in a tv network/show. For me, it came down to a handful of things. Personalities, content, set design and flow. To be honest, I have only watched about 5 hours of programming on the network (outside of old highlights and documentaries) and I may have just caught a few bad nights.
The people that were hired to be the faces of the network can be described as retreads (Harold Reynolds, Al Leiter), stiff ex players (Joe Magrane), fan boys (Tom Verducci) and pretty girls (Hazel Mae). Sound familiar?
I was hoping for something different. The on air personalities were the first clue that I was going to be let down in a big way.
Even though I was disappointed by the personalities I still had hopes that perhaps the content was going to be better. Less Yankees and Red Sox maybe? An appreciation for sabermetrics perhaps?
After the last few nights, I laughed at myself for thinking that there was even the possibility that a bunch of high school educated jocks on MLB Network could give a different take than a bunch of... well, high school educated jocks on ESPN.I know, the writers like Verducci and Kurkjian have degrees. I am being harsh.
Of all the studio show garbage I watched tonights broadcast was the worst. It may as well have been called "Mark Goes to the Big Apple." I had to fight every impulse to change the channel as Harold, Joe and Al "debated" how good the Yankees might be, how from a business perspective the Yankees are great for the other teams because they mean guaranteed sell outs (I nearly died laughing thinking about how happy the Mariners must be to know they got 6 out of 81 games covered for next year. "A rising tide lifts all boats," Joe says matter of factly) and last they debated why guys over 35 were having trouble catching on.
The last one was particularly hilarious. Joe said it was because there were no more steroids or amphetamines (which got even more hilarious when the next topic on the show was JC Romero and Sergio Mitres drug suspensions). Harold argued it was because the new front offices are manned by guys who never played and can't understand how important veteran presence is to a club. Al agreed before adding that maybe some guys just weren't up to snuff anymore. Really? You think?
On the plus side, the sets look nice.
As far as flow of the program, I imagine this will get better as the crew works together more often. Watching it the past few days it is clear that much of the flow of a studio "news" program is really the direct result of the chemistry that exists between the multiple talking heads. So, for now I have to reserve judgment.
Not that it matters, it will be a long time before I even think to flip on this ridiculous Baseball Tonight ripoff of a network. Has anyone else watched much of the network? Did I just catch a few bad nights?
If you haven't watched and plan on checking it out I have a little advice. Drink heavily, it may make it seem more interesting.
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I've liked it so far
I have to say, to be honest I don’t care as much about the hot stove show and all that. Right now I’m more interested in seeing what other kinds of programming they develop in terms of documentaries, history of the sport, game coverage and so on.
They’re just getting up and running so I expect there to be growing pains. I also don’t expect them not to focus on teams like the Red Sox and Yankees because, well, they’re the Red Sox and Yankees. They should have more than enough time to devote some attention to everyone else as well. I’m not worried about that.
I’m high on the potential for this channel. I hope they also eventually focus on stuff like the minors, fall league, etc. In fact, I’m sure we can contact them and make suggestions.
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I left out
That I was excited to see a portion of Ken Burns Baseball and old World Series highlights… that stupid Hot Stove show left a real bad taste in my mouth.
My suggestion: skip what you don't like
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I mean, they're doing a documentary on Rickey...
…along with one on the Negro Leagues, and those are just two things I’m really looking forward to seeing.
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Ditto that
That was another nice piece on that show Ray Liotta hosted – Satchel Paige. I have seen/read stories on him before but every time it amazes me. Best pitcher ever. What I would give to see him pitch live. What a lot of people would have given to see him pitch…even back then.
The stories Buck O'Neil told about Satchel were great
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I have not seen a lot yet (been recording)
I saw Larsen’s perfect game with the commentary from Larsen and Yogi which was pretty cool.
Also enjoyed the show Ray Liotta hosted on Ripken, Jackie Robinson, Roberto Clemente, etc.
I recorded some of the ‘9’ shows and ‘Inside the Moments’ and Burns – looking forward to watching those those.
Have not seen much of the Hot Stove yet. Point of those shows are to watch live and I seem to keep missing them outside of a few minutes here and there. I am sure it will get better.
Overall, I like it. I am big on the history and enjoy watching old games and learning about the old timers.
Hell, I love baseball and this is a baseball channel…for free. ’nuff said.
Haven't watched much...
…Larsen’s perfect game was fun to watch. Alot of fun. Also saw a couple ‘9’ shoes, which were interesting.
I don’t have alot of faith in MLB to pull off a truly objective Hot Stove show, but I can’t say right now as I haven’t watched it yet. I expect alot of pointless positive spin and self-promotion…. used car style, if ya know what I mean.
I always liked Harold Reynolds when he was with ESPN and was disappointed when he got fired. Glad to see him back doing something. Hazel Mae is always pleasing eye candy.
Overall, better than I thought it would be, but haven’t watched enough to be comprehensive, either.
"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds
Harold Reynolds + Hazel Mae = imminent lawsuit
This is hardball! This is where we overreact! @('.')@
I have DISH.....
So I am not getting this channel and who knows if they will ever carry it.
Billy Beane plays with the A's like Legos.
I've been watching - Not bad so far
But not amazing either. I do appreciate the news aspect of it; if they stick to reporting every last bit of breaking news, especially signings, trades, scandals, general team news, etc, then they can compete with the web. Hard to imagine it being the “go to” source though; but I guess if I need my bball fix and I’m in front of the TV I’ll certainly flip over to ch. 412 and not ESPN.
Of course, it remains to be seen how good it is during the season, when it really counts. If they do something truly special or exclusive, it might really take off. I can imagine complete press conferences, more thorough analyses of players and teams, and, as mentioned above, more stats and stats education. Less repetition will count for a lot, as will focusing on minor leagues, winter leagues, early rounds of the draft, and fair coverage of the A’s and other non-Northeastern franchises.
I suppose the danger – as it is with most marketing-driven, insular organizations – is that they’ll assume what we want to see (the conventional, mundane, and traditional) without actually getting feedback from fans, kind of like ESPN. If, on the other hand, they throw out some truly creative, diverse, and special programming that truly enhances the ebb-and-flow of the season, we’ll come to really appreciate the MLB Network.
Then it will be on fans to tell them what they should focus on more
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Regardless, we can't get them to read or listen
In some organizations (media, sports, or otherwise) the top brass go over – and take seriously – a lot of customer feedback. In others, it ends up in a pile or in-box, or simply categorized or reviewed by a lower-level powerless employee or intern. In many, it’s totally ignored.
MLB execs? Who knows…but it’s always worth getting your informed opinion on record in case anyone is listening.
Nothing wrong with trying, is there?
Especially being a new network, this is the time to tell them what you want to see.
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I'm with Jeffro on this one. The in studio "commentary" pretty
much blows. The other documentary type stuff on the channel is it’s only redeeming value in my eyes. Their “profile” of what to expect of the 2009 A’s consisted of a 30 second talk on whether or not they would trade or keep Matt Holiday.
What did you really expect? MLB, led by Selig, is always the last to catch on with new innovation.
by 33SwisherSweet on Jan 7, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions
Matt Vasgersian will be calling games
I’m in.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
Crap, I think you're right
That’s a shame, he does well in the booth.
Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.
They need their sea legs
The studio show needs to build chemistry. Right now they’re leaning a bit too much on Harold Reynolds, because he’s the “veteran” analyst from BBTN. Not sure if this is in the cards, but it wouldn’t hurt them to have one analyst with a real edge. HR tries but it looks forced. I’m hoping they don’t bring in Rob Dibble.
I like the studio set. It’s a lot like what ESPN does for its NFL-themed shows or TNT’s NBA setup. The format is much like BBTN, which is fine since BBTN is the standard-bearer, warts and all. They should be able to carve out their own style that sets it apart from ESPN’s presentation style.
I think so
Their premier studio show with Eisen, Deion, and Mooch has as much insight, edge, and chemistry with just those three as the other network studio shows.
I like that MLB has spent money on the set, to avoid looking cheap if nothing else. When the NBA Network started its studio show was run our of a corner of the league’s retail store in NYC. They learned from that and the show is produced by TNT, which is beneficial. They even have their own edgy rising star in Oakland’s own Gary Payton. The NHL Network’s show is not as established here in the US and is more for the hockey hardcore fan – facts and highlights, leave out the fluff.
End of the week
I may be getting an update as early as tomorrow. I don’t expect it to be much in terms of news.
I did find an e-mail address to their PR person and sent them some ideas
- Minor League Baseball – I think there’s a lot of potential here, especially with the minors being more popular than ever, to give fans a good look at what some of their team’s prospects are doing along with seeing more of this level in general. Maybe there could be a weekly show, some late-night programming including games, a focus on the best ballparks in the Minors, etc. This could even include things like the Arizona Fall League and so on.
- International Baseball – the World Baseball Classic coverage is something I’m very interested in, having been to WBC games the first time around along with plans to go to more this year, and I wonder if other things like the Mexican or Caribbean leagues could be touched on, possibly Japanese baseball as well.
- Team-specific coverage – examples could include more team documentaries that are out there or even new ones, in-depth looks at various things that make each ballpark unique, planned segments each week highlighting a team or division, etc. I don’t know what kinds of things are already scheduled around things like this. Everyone knows how popular the Yankees and Red Sox are but I think fans expect to get a lot more than just them being focused on with this channel.
- History of the sport – more old games, a look at the history of ballparks that are no longer around, etc. I liked the use of the studio to bring in Yogi Berra and Don Larsen and with so many great, retired baseball players out there it’d be nice to see more of them brought in (or visited) to talk about their playing days, the game itself and more.
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Sure
I sent to raquel.ramos@mlb.com who is found here:
http://mlb.mlb.com/network/about/contact/
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I also indicated I don't know if there's a better person to contact...
…and I didn’t see one, so hopefully she could pass it on if necessary.
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MLB Network
I have barely watched any of it yet. It’ll definitely come more in handy when it’s baseball season. Baseball is the only sport on all summer long, so the MLB Network will be at the top of my TV list.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 7, 2009 2:56 PM PST reply actions
Your lucky you didn't see the one with
Barry Larkin. He said Orlando Hudson could steal 40 bases next season. :facepalm:
It'd help if Hudson tried to steal more than 15 times a year
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See this is what left me so unimpressed
It is the “jockocracy” crap. These guys were great at playing, they know the mechanics of swings, pitching… blah blah blah. But they really don’t know crap about facts. Most of them never have had to. And I can get the sort of bullcrap analysis from multiple sources that do it better.
He's so-so, I'd say
5/10 his first two seasons combined, but 37/50 since and that’s about 3 of every 4 stolen.
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Yep - leading off with Giambi and the A's
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I like Magrane's point about Giambi hopefully trying to...
…return to more of an all-fields hitter instead of the pull hitter he became in New York.
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Well, they spent the first quarter of the show on Giambi and the A's
Can’t complain about that. I think they had some pretty decent insights too.
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and that is the extent that you will see the a's on national tv this year
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
Dammit
I was working late and didn’t get home until half way through the show… I heard them say they talked to him but I can’t find any of the interview online. Bummer.
I am officially excited to hav ehim back, just because he is a fun guy to root for.
See if they have a replay set for the show?
They were talking about the Giambi thing for about the first 8 or 9 minutes then went into some other stuff talking about the offense with Giambi, Holliday and Cust but the pitching staff being in question, and also talked about Crosby’s uncertain future and how this is the year that’s pretty much going to make or break him. After that they talked a little about Beane’s moves and how now they’re doing a little more mixing up of drafting college and high school players, etc.
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2 things
1. found it on the mlb network site. Joe Magrane was pretty insightful, though I haven’t really followed Giambi much to see if he really became a strict pull hitter in NY.
2. Update your personal blog, sweet peter pumpkin pie you ain’t updated it since September. :)
Yeah, I haven't had much to post about in the blog
Up to now I’ve mainly just used it when I had a new set of photos to talk about. I don’t know if I’ll change that method or not.
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