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The Two Jacks: A's 5, Orioles 1

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Jack watches and waits for one of Cust's homeruns to land in the rightfield seats.

Say what you will about the absolute value of the A's active roster or the sagacity of Beane's long-term rebuilding project, at least the A's are a far sight better than this Baltimore team.

Even after a few unsuccessful mound adventures of late, this transitional A's pitching staff usually keeps the A's in the game -- and does so by not dispensing walks with alarming frequency.

And despite the underpowered offense and the debatable (I agree with it, but many don't; hence, debatable) A's patient plate approach, the A's do have a plan when they come to the plate.

And even both teams started out this series with near-identical records, at least the A's baserunners aren't giving up entirely at the tail end of a likely -- but by no means guaranteed -- loss.

Yes, old friend Jay Payton, on first with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th, either gave up entirely or "merely" forgot how many outs there were, and was doubled off when Rajai Davis hauled in a fly ball at the warning track.

And with that, the A's "swept" this weekend series (with the opener of today's doubleheader getting postponed, perhaps not to be rescheduled at all).

The story today for the A's started out as a continuation of last night's ugly affair, with Oriole starter Daniel Cabrera walking the bases loaded on the first three batters of the game. Jack Cust delivered a sac fly, and that was to be all the A's would make of the promising start to the inning.

As the game developed, though (and as A's starter Greg "Nibbles" Smith had his own control struggles, ultimately walking 5 in 7 shutout innings), the story turned to focus on the Two Jacks: Cust, who followed up his sac fly with a solo HR in the 3rd and one in the 4th (both prodigious, Custean blasts to deep RF), and Hannahan, who delivered a solo Jack of his own and made some exceptional plays at third, contributing greatly to keeping the Orioles' hit total down to 5 (only 3 off of Smith).

As Nico opined in the game thread, it's difficult to give Smith too much credit for pitching "well" when he's so consistently outside the zone. Yes, 7 shutout innings and only 3 hits -- but 5 walks and a 58:45 strike:ball ratio.

Some credit, as well, should go to Rajai Davis, who pitched in an RBI triple and ranged all over CF to haul in fly balls.

So tomorrow is an off-day (with today's not-doubleheader having been scheduled to avoid conflict with the Ravens game Sunday), and then the team is in Detroit on Monday.

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it's not to the A's credit that the Orioles are worse

but I’m glad they won this series.

One of the first MLB games I went to as a child (not the first, but close) was to see the Orioles play the Yankees in Yankee Stadium, when the Orioles were very, very good. I still remember Brooks Robinson smiling for some fans to take photos. I also remember the “amazins” (1969 Mets) beating the heavily favored Orioles.

That’s a proud franchise in the throes of years of bad, bad management (I’m including the owner in that).

by OaklandSi on Sep 6, 2008 7:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know that their system is that deep

but Wieters is almost a system unto himself…

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Sep 6, 2008 9:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Curious.

Do you happen to know anything about a kid named Davis in the Nat’s system? He plays third for their AAA squad.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 6, 2008 9:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing whatsoever

Numbers aren’t indicative of him being much better than Baisley, though.

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by PaulThomas on Sep 6, 2008 9:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know he's headed to the Arizona league.

but that’s about all. I know his brother.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 6, 2008 9:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too Cool for Multiple Events

Sometimes there’s simultaneous events going on at the Coliseum and Arena, but maybe they’re convinced more people take BART than actually park in the lots.

A good weekend in Poe land, let’s see if the A’s can find more road magic in the Rock/Motor/Motown/Hockeytown…

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 6, 2008 7:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least BART is an option

plus the parking lots are pretty big

by OaklandSi on Sep 6, 2008 7:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thome HR

ChiSox win, bottom 15th

by SwisherThresher on Sep 6, 2008 8:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YAY

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 6, 2008 8:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boo.

This White Sox team shouldn’t have won more than 75 games this year. I don’t want them sniffing the playoffs.

by thejd44 on Sep 6, 2008 8:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just for the White Sox announcers alone, I wish them ill

They are that bad.

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by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 8:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What team in that division should have won more than 75 games this year?

The Indians were a huge disappointment, but otherwise there’s a lot of mediocrity there. The Tigers weren’t even close to equalling the ridiculous hype.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Sep 6, 2008 9:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's good to get a win, but...

It’s becoming really concerning how bad Smith has been. His xFIP is up to 5.27. Most 5 BB, 2K outings are not going to end well.

by MrIncognito on Sep 6, 2008 8:05 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This outing did not excite me -

5 BB to a team he could shut out largely because Huff (30 HRs), Mora (23 HRs), and Scott (21 HRs) were not in the lineup. I don’t believe Smith “needs to nibble at the corners” because his stuff is unelectric – I think he just needs to mix in more interchangeably the fastball, changeup, cutter, curve, and both sides of the plate, so that he CAN throw strikes that aren’t “right on the black” and CAN challenge hitters early in the count.

Smith throws the curve very sparingly, and he comes inside very sparingly, and I think those are the two biggest mistakes in his approach. If he used both sides of the plate more, and threw more breaking pitches, he wouldn’t have to nibble so much.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 8:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really think this is a confidence issue.

Being dead last in all MLB (among pitchers w/ 100 IP) in run support as a rookie must suck.

Hopefully he rebounds, because he has the stuff to challenge.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 6, 2008 8:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't catch the exact numbers...

…but the Oriole announcers were talking about this very good winning percentage the team has when they score four runs or more. If the winning percentage is that good, and they’ve got an overall losing record, then the offense must really suck more then we even think. That’s got to be seriously frustrating for the pitching staff.

"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds

by UncleLeo on Sep 6, 2008 8:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

However much you think the offense sucks,

it sucks even just a little bit more than that.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 8:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is no suck word adequate.

"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds

by UncleLeo on Sep 6, 2008 8:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the Oriole announcers...

…was talking about how a former pitching coach inspired him to throw first strikes. It went something like for every first strike the coach paid him $4 and for every first ball the pitcher paid him $2. When the coach was down a couple hundred he said he’d made his point.

I was only half paying attention to the game tonight, so my specifics are lacking.

"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds

by UncleLeo on Sep 6, 2008 8:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How inspiring

{rolls eyes at greed and capitalism}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 8:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree.

Smith is going to have to do the things you say if wants to sustain any long term success. As it stands now, the hitters know they can crowd the plate and wait for the outside fastball. When they get it, they’re going to deposit it a very long way from Smith. Smith is going to get burned on occasion with the inside fast ball. So what. That’s what big league hitters do. But he’s still going to have put some pitches there to keep them honest. He’s really not that bad a pitcher. If he used his head more, he could be an above average pitcher.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 6, 2008 9:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, he has a cutter

You can come inside with a cutter and have terrific success. The hitter swings at a pitch right in his mashing zone and winds up hitting it off the handle of the bat. Duchscherer, and even DiNardo last year, have shown how effective the cutter can be in on the hands.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 9:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It seemed to me that he started going

after hitters during this game which resulted in a lot of foul balls. As the score climbed, he became a little more aggressive. Hopefully, he takes something away from this game mentally.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 6, 2008 9:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's easy to forget that he is a rookie

He has a mature air about him, but he’s still in his very first year as a major league pitcher.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 10:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He threw first pitch strikes to 4 of the 8 batters he faced in the 6th and 7th

I just think he kind of lacks that great control. If he had it he would’ve been considered a much better prospect.

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by iamawesomer on Sep 6, 2008 10:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree- his command is not elite

In fact, I think it’s worse than Braden’s. He has more pitches than Braden, but none of them are really “plus” at this point, so it’s not clear how helpful that is.

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by PaulThomas on Sep 6, 2008 10:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Money is THE most important thing in baseball...

…just ask Bud Selig.

"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds

by UncleLeo on Sep 6, 2008 8:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That crede extends to more than just baseball.

I’m sure Bud will confirm that too.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 6, 2008 9:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you mean "credo"

or do you mean Joe (the best 3Bman in history – just ask the White Sox announcers)?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2008 9:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when Davis and Hannahan are included in any post-win write-up...

you know your team sucks. Cust will probably hit one to two home runs per game from here on out. Too little, too late.

Smith’s a keeper. I see potential there.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 6, 2008 11:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Given where Cust started the year, I don’t see how you can be anything but happy with him. According to ESPN, his line in April was .188/.388/.281. The fact that he’s up to .230/.371/.457 is a good recovery. You’ll always be able to look at Cust for what he’s not, but he’s come a long way defensively and managed to be the best hitter on the team.

There’s potential in every pitcher that makes it to AAA. Smith has pitched really poorly this year. Yes, it’s his first season, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s had a bad season made to look better by his home park and team defense.

by MrIncognito on Sep 7, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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