A's Take Over Second Place In AL West; Beat Rangers 4-3 in 11 Innings
If the A's miss out on someone great in this next draft to the Texas Rangers, I might just find Travis Buck and give him a wedgie. I'm just kidding. It was nice to see the A's keep up their recent hot streak by beating the Rangers in 11 innings. At the same time, it was disappointing to see Brad Ziegler blow his second save.
I was watching this game tonight just thinking about how fantastic the A's bullpen is going to be next year. I mean, Smith was out after five innings tonight, throwing 97 pitches over those frames, yet the A's bullpen just threw up goose egg after goose egg. Blevins, Devine and Street did the job and while Ziggy blew the save with the bomb to Blalock, Embree and Casilla then followed up with two more scoreless innings. It's not easy to do that in Arlington. And just think, there is a good chance that someone like Braden will wind up in the pen as well. If the A's could ever get a lead with the abysmal offense, they should win quite a few games. The problem will be getting a lead.
Yet again, Travis Buck and Cliff Pennington came through. First Pennington with a very nice opposite field double and then Buck with a splendid AB that plated Pennington. I've got to admit that it's awesome seeing Travis Buck back. He was a complete mystery to me as to why he struggled this year and I think the A's could become a lot better offensively in 2009 if Buck can regain his 2007 form.
I've got to admit that I didn't see what happened to Ryan Sweeney as I was caring for my daughter since my wife can't with her broken ankle. Anyone want to fill me in on it?
So the A's are back in second place with five games left to play (the Baltimore rainout has been cancelled so the A's are playing 161 games this year). I would say that if the team can finish in second place despite all the injuries, trades and issues this year, that would be quite an accomplishment, wouldn't you?
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Highlight for Me: The A’s broke the franchise record for most Strikeouts in a season. Jack Cust being the guy to send us over the top. Well done!
by Colorado Fan on
Sep 22, 2008 9:35 PM PDT
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I'd give Ziggy a flier on this particular setback
in that he was pitching four days in a row and probably shouldn’t have been in. But he has lost the feel for his changeup and it’s taking its toll big time on his ability to manage lefties. Hopefully he’ll get it back.
I still haven’t been wholly impressed with Buck – his game winning hit was a seeing eye bouncer – but Sweeney continues to grow on me.
Hardest hit ball of the game? Maybe Laird’s laser beam with the winning run at third. God likes the A’s!!!
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by Nico on
Sep 22, 2008 9:37 PM PDT
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I would say that getting lucky wins when they only (negatively) affect your draft position,
and getting horribly unlucky losses in, eg, the postseason, is rather a sign that God really, really dislikes the A’s.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Sep 22, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
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You must hate all this winning. :)
au contra ire
by JediLeroy on
Sep 22, 2008 11:50 PM PDT
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I don't hate it, I just find it ironic
that the season where most things seem to “break the right way” happens to be the one year in the last 10 where the team wasn’t competitive from the outset.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Sep 22, 2008 11:57 PM PDT
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what exactly broke the right way?
let alone, “most things?”
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:04 AM PDT
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I'm still waiting for someone to make an empirical case
that over time—say, the last 20 years—there is a meaningful difference between the outcomes of draft picks when selecting fifth versus selecting ninth. And further, that said difference (if it exists at all) is significant enough to be worth turning on one’s own team when rooting for wins and losses.
I submit, without evidence or inquiry of any kind, that between the uniquely high miss rate of baseball draft picks (as compared with NFL or NBA ones) and the selection bonus/agent hold-out dynamic, that any difference between the 5th pick and the 9th one is negligible and certainly not worth me rooting for my team to lose.
Arte didn't get much Home Run Derby. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on
Sep 23, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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And besides all that.....
It’s just wrong.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 23, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
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amen on Buck/Laird
Yeah, to Blez’ point, it was a decent AB by Buck, but that was terrible contact on a terrible swing — exactly the sort of big, looping, not-seeing-the-ball-or-recognizing-the-pitch rollover grounder he was generating by the metric ton in April.
I think Geren’s call to Embree was correct — but it was still Embree, and the A’s simply got lucky (or unlucky, if you’re PT) that it was an “atom” ball.
It's just something we do. It's not something we like. @('.')@
by monkeyball on
Sep 23, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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Broken ankle! Yikes
Treat her well, and don’t short her painkillers.
by MobiusKlein on
Sep 22, 2008 9:37 PM PDT
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I'm starting to like Pennington more and more
And I’m a firm believer that Zeigler should not be closing, because he is most effective in pressure situations with RUNNERS ON because of his great sinking movement. Need a DP, no problem, call Ziggy.
But the best pure closer on the team right now is probably Joey Devine. It’s real real hard to hit him, and when there’s nobody on, it would be really hard to mount any kind of rally against him.
by NateHST on
Sep 22, 2008 9:38 PM PDT
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No question - I thought the right time to go to Ziggy
was after Devine got the baserunner on and Ziggy could have finished the 8th in a “no doubles” situation. Then your closer (Devine’s twin) works the 9th.
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by Nico on
Sep 22, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
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Just...
Put Devine in CF for 1/3 of an inning, since no one ever hits the ball in the air off of Ziggy. Then, re-enter Devine in the 9th. :)
by Colorado Fan on
Sep 23, 2008 7:38 AM PDT
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I'm still fuming over the Raider loss...
but, the A’s continued good September play does assuage the pain somewhat.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
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Someone needs to make a gif
of Nelson from The Simpsons going “HAH-HAH!”
In the meantime, feel free to imagine one.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Sep 22, 2008 10:18 PM PDT
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Bad timing for sure,
But if Al fires Lane Kiffin, I WILL have a problem.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
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You're Fired!

"I feel like I hit better when I'm playing the field...just feel more like a baseball player." —Jack Cust (or Derek Jeter for that matter)
by PortlandPachyderm on
Sep 22, 2008 10:41 PM PDT
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Die already!
Sorry! He’s done a lot of things, and its enough.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 10:58 PM PDT
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I think he already has.
About five or six years ago. He stays animated for spite sake.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 22, 2008 11:00 PM PDT
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Its not that I dont appreciate what hes done,
Its just that he no longer has what it takes.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:09 PM PDT
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he does sorta look like Darth Vader unmasked in that picture...
but, I do like the fact that he’s politically incorrect enough to be drinking a rum & coke at a press conference.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:13 PM PDT
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His day has come and gone,
that’s for certain. Something sad about a guy who doesn’t know when it’s time to step aside. All he’s doing now is tainting his legacy.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 22, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
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Fortunately for me,
football is an affliction I have managed to avoid. I maintain a distant interest at best.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 22, 2008 11:23 PM PDT
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We don't feel that way,
We feel like we have the best coach and team we’ve had since gruden.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:32 PM PDT
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which way don't "we" feel?
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:41 PM PDT
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does the image imply something...
you don’t feel?
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:45 PM PDT
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Okay,
don’t be hard on “us”. I love my Raiders, and I know this team does not want to lose . Losing your coach after the third game is a death sentence.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:50 PM PDT
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girl...
I’m on your side. I think the image says that!!!
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:52 PM PDT
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Good thing!
otherwise, I’d have to kick your ass!
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:54 PM PDT
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Galt would protect me...
he loves me very much. He tells me so every third sentence.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:55 PM PDT
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And the fact that I love Ayn Rand, also protects you.
I almost responded to your post.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:58 PM PDT
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I am, then, indeed blessed...
by St. Ayn. ;-)
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:00 AM PDT
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I hope you are Foolish Game,
Galt wll be fine, the best! You know what the girl’s name should be, she’ll be strong too. There is no question. Best of luck to you.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 23, 2008 12:11 AM PDT
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the girl's name was already picked...
alas, it’s a little brother. ;-)
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:13 AM PDT
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Dagny, of course
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:15 AM PDT
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Oh no!
Dagny should not be a boys name.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 23, 2008 12:17 AM PDT
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lol... no, that would have been...
the girl’s name.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:18 AM PDT
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as you can tell from...
my 2nd name the baby post, we have not yet agreed on the 2nd son’s name.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:19 AM PDT
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Roark is strong, and manly.l
He could get the girl!
by lynnzgal on
Sep 23, 2008 12:20 AM PDT
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Roark Rearden Gordon...
I kind like it. R. R. Gordon VII… I’ll add the “VII” just to confuse people.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:21 AM PDT
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were it not for Fantasy Island...
Roark would be my 2nd son’s name.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:17 AM PDT
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I guess that explains why his middle name is KHAN!
It's just something we do. It's not something we like. @('.')@
by monkeyball on
Sep 23, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
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You love Ayn Rand?
Well, she doesn’t love you back.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Sep 23, 2008 12:21 AM PDT
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just like you, Paul...
I don’t need to be loved back.
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:24 AM PDT
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thanks...
I just sent her an e-mail suggesting the compromise ultimatum name. I should have put it in the poll. ;-)
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 23, 2008 12:35 AM PDT
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That means we love our team
more than anything, we believe!
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:52 PM PDT
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look again
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by FoolshGame22 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:53 PM PDT
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Kiffen is class...
Al is an ass. Considering Kiffen gets no respect from anyone there, the fact that the Raiders aren’t losing 77-0 every game is amazing. Wait, 77-3, since SeaBass could hit one from 70 yards out, at least once, if necessary.
Years ago, when I first saw “Recall Davis” signs, I said “Yeah, great idea, the Raiders will continue to FAIL as long as he is at the helm”. Oh, you mean Gov Davis?
Never mind.
by NotJohnnyDamon on
Sep 23, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
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But it made andeux happy.
My dad called me when Buffalo kicked the game-winner – I haven’t heard him so excited in years! A good pop, to say the least, but he raised me a Bills fan in the nineties. Too much heartbreak.
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on
Sep 23, 2008 7:08 AM PDT
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Kurt. Suzuki.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on
Sep 22, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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Ziggy
So, how many games in a row will a manager put a kid in there despite knowing that the kid has given everything he has? Players must feel like meat at times. It “looks” great if a guy is used up and yet sent in and it works out. But when it doesn’t work out, the player and his confidence take the hit. Tonight, give the blown save to Geren. I’m glad the team pulled off a win in spite of the manager.
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Sep 22, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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It's not like no one has ever pitched 4 days in a row,
let alone a submariner – and to a large extent, it’s Ziggy’s job to say whether or not he’s available. Would you have been happier if Embree or Casilla had pitched the 7th or 8th and given up two runs? Probably not. Personally, I would have liked to see Street pitch 2 innings, but whate’er.
I’m more mad about Barton bunting. But even that doesn’t make Geren a bad manager, just a manager who made a bad call IMO.
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by Nico on
Sep 22, 2008 9:48 PM PDT
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It's 4 in a row...
and 5 out of the last 6…and does being a submariner really alleviate stress on the arm? Zig has said in earlier interviews that his arm angle is basically the same relevant to his body…the difference in his delivery is mainly his bending at the waist. That would seem to indicate that stress on the arm isn’t much different than his upright delivery. It would be different if he was throwing underhanded. I agree that it’s his job to say whether or not he’s available, but I also think it’s tough for a young player to tell a manager that he needs a night off, for a lot of reasons.
by captain bubblehead on
Sep 22, 2008 10:02 PM PDT
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Submarine =
More Natural. It’s why Softball Pitchers can pitch, and pitch, and pitch…
by Colorado Fan on
Sep 23, 2008 7:42 AM PDT
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...and about Geren :)
I didn’t say he was a bad manager…but I think he made a bad call. A blown save doesn’t make a pitcher a bad pitcher. A strike out doesn’t make a hitter a bad hitter. An error doesn’t make a fielder a bad fielder. But the isolated incident IS subject to judgment…that’s part of what makes baseball as interesting as it is.
by captain bubblehead on
Sep 22, 2008 10:07 PM PDT
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I watched the game on my DVR
and I also felt that Street and Devine could have closed the deal. There was really no reason to bring Ziggy into this game. Especially with Street pitching so well as of late and Devine continuing to be freak nasty woth his stuff.
I’m liking Pennington more and more and it was good to see Buck get the winning hit even thought it was fugly…..
go A’s! and Go Kiffin!
by mrod on
Sep 23, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
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I'm happy Santiago got a save. His confidence must have been in the crapper.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on
Sep 22, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
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Yeah, I missed that - did he die again?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Sep 22, 2008 9:48 PM PDT
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I suspect Emil Brown
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on
Sep 22, 2008 9:49 PM PDT
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But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on
Sep 23, 2008 6:56 AM PDT
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Bummer there's no make-up game
I want the A’s to run the rest of the season and finish at 500.
"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk
by iglew on
Sep 22, 2008 10:05 PM PDT
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Also watching games is fun
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on
Sep 22, 2008 11:05 PM PDT
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Jennifer would love to see Swooney and Staplehead in a makeup game
It's just something we do. It's not something we like. @('.')@
by monkeyball on
Sep 23, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
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When did they break up?
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on
Sep 23, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
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I'm happy we won tonight,
let’s sweep the Rangers too!
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 10:26 PM PDT
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Street should have pitched two innings.
He’s regained his old form. It’d be nice for him to finish the season on a strong note.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 22, 2008 10:46 PM PDT
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What was up with ZIggy pitching 4 days in a row
and six out of seven?!
So, bring on Bonds! Or, not... then, bring back Langerhans!! -One won lost one
by baseballgirl on
Sep 22, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
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He's a young horse with a rubber arm who has all off-season to recuperate
Also he’s a gamer who wants the ball every day, and gets into a bad mood if he doesn’t get it.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on
Sep 22, 2008 11:07 PM PDT
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He's 28, and when has he displayed this "rubber arm" of which you speak?
Also, the off season argument really bugs me since it’s pretty much been proven that overuse in one season can show up with poor results in the next.
Who cares if a guy is in a “bad mood” (where’s your proof of this?) because he doesn’t pitch in one game? I can’t imagine that Ziggy being bummed over not being used once is going to have any real effect on anything. He doesn’t strike me as the moody, clubhouse cancer type.
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Sep 23, 2008 1:39 AM PDT
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But is he equine?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on
Sep 23, 2008 3:46 AM PDT
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WC was clearly being sarcastic
and, if I’m not mistaken, specifically mocking some of the things the Giants/their apologists have said about Tim Lincecum.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Sep 23, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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Internet makes it difficult to get the sarcasm sometimes
Especially when it comes from a poster whose tendencies I haven’t learned yet.
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Sep 23, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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Don't scare me like that! I thought something happened to Ryan!
I got in the car around 8:40, expecting the game to be long over… instead, I was just in time to hear Cliffy’s double, and then Trav’s RBI and Santiago’s save. Sweet! Too bad about Ziggy blowing the save, though.
And man, the game threads are massive. Lotsa reading to do.
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Sep 22, 2008 11:09 PM PDT
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Okay, the game threads are kRaZy.
Who spiked the Kool-Aid?
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Sep 22, 2008 11:38 PM PDT
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We don't want them to end,
I know I don’t.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:13 PM PDT
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September is indeed sad....
when there’s no October to look forward to. Go Rays!
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 22, 2008 11:15 PM PDT
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Al dying,The A's going off
for another season. This is hard.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:21 PM PDT
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Not to worry,
Al will never die. He’s made a deal don’t you know…..
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on
Sep 22, 2008 11:23 PM PDT
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The picture of Dorian Grey?
Yeah, I heard. I’d be surprised if he made it through this season. He’s dying. It won’t be long now.
by lynnzgal on
Sep 22, 2008 11:27 PM PDT
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Nice article on the A's site about R. Sweeney
He talks about his role for 2009 and how he plans to be a leader on the team.
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:21 PM PDT
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You mean this isn't the best place to roll out my Sweeney-headlined "Colby Rasmus trade package"?
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
by PaulThomas on
Sep 22, 2008 11:35 PM PDT
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I dunno who runs the cards now
But I can’t imagine a package with Sweeney as the headliner that nabs Rasmus
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Sep 22, 2008 11:47 PM PDT
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Maybe he means "headlined" in the sense that the other guys are minor leaguers
And while top prospects, the established major leaguer is usually the one who gets the headline.
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Sep 23, 2008 1:40 AM PDT
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Let me hear this alleged package.
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
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Sep 22, 2008 11:49 PM PDT
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Please don't use Sweeney and broken ankle in the same sentence.
au contra ire
by JediLeroy on
Sep 22, 2008 11:53 PM PDT
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+1000 broken ankles
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
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Sep 22, 2008 11:57 PM PDT
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Sweeney was in the game at the end....
What did I miss?
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on
Sep 23, 2008 12:08 AM PDT
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he died shortly thereafter...
of a strained oblique. Tragic.
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Sep 23, 2008 12:10 AM PDT
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But he's still day-to-day and hasn't been ruled out of this weekend's games.
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Sep 23, 2008 1:40 AM PDT
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100% Baseball...
death is no impediment.
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I think Blez was talking about Ryan's RBI to win the game.
He missed how it happened.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on
Sep 23, 2008 6:35 AM PDT
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So did I.... apparently?
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on
Sep 23, 2008 8:01 AM PDT
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He became Travis Buck and chopped one through the right side?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on
Sep 23, 2008 8:22 AM PDT
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The game thread was too distracting…I missed that too.
by justarebelheart on
Sep 23, 2008 8:30 AM PDT
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