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Open Game Thread - Game 149: A's vs. Rangers

Texas Rangers at Oakland Athletics, Sep 14, 2008 1:05 PM PDT


The A's look to break even in this series with Rangers, sending Dana Eveland to the hill. Eveland is opposed by Vicente Padilla.

It's hard for me to believe we're already halfway through September, with only 14 games remaining including today's. As depressing as the second half has been this season, it's flown right by.

I'm not sure whether Ray Fosse and Mark Ellis addressed this in Ray's pregame interview show, but Ellis is apparently leaning toward having two offseason shoulder surgeries: one to clean up his recent cartilage damage, and another to fix the labrum tear caused by Crosby in 2004.

Also, apprently Buck, Gonzalez, and Denorfia will all be coming back up to the parent club once Sacto's season ends. Many questions remain for the A's here at the tail end of the season -- time to see what the various fellas have to potentially contribute in '09.



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two what?!

what is ellis having two of?!?!?! haha

white esurance sign behind home plate..oh so that’s why durham is an absolutely terrible defensive second baseman.. - xbhaskarx

by BigTuna on Sep 14, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

AHHHH!

The suspense!

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I, for one, will be glad to see Buck back.

Hopefully with his 2007 form. I drafted him and Daric Barton for my DMB team, and that’s not looking so good right now.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

It will be interesting to see

how they find playing time for all of these outfielders. it’s assumed brown and davis will sit, that leaves cunningham, sweeney, gonzalez, buck, and denorfia to grapple for enough abs. i hope buck gets priority because it would help to see if he can handle some mlb pitching, but cunningham and gonzalez need the time as well.

by chipper1001 on Sep 14, 2008 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Buck and Denorfia should get priority.

For one, they’re older. Buck has proven he’s capable of being a good, solid outfielder in the past, and it would be worth it to see if he can regain that form. Denorfia seems like he’s on his last limb. With all of the young outfield talent coming up, he needs to prove himself now. Ditto for Davis. Sweeney, Cunningham, and Gonzalez will have plenty of opportunities in the future.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

very true

i think they’ll want to let gonzalez build some condfidence going into the off season. if denorfia struggles initially he’ll lose those abs to the younger guys

by chipper1001 on Sep 14, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

CarGon should start at AAA. Davis is utility

 Sweeney/Cunningham/Denorfia/Buck do the fighting out for the 3 spots.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 14, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Cust v. Ryan Howard.

I can’t help but make comparisons. They’re very similar players in that they’re basically HR/BB/K type guys with mediocre/bad defense. Is Ryan Howard really that much better than Jack Cust? He plays in a huge hitter’s park in the weaker league with a much better lineup surrounding him. If Spartacust were in Ryan Howard’s position, could he put up similar numbers?

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Add "low BA" to that list, too.

Ryan Howard put up a .313 BA when he won the MVP (Pujols got robbed that year) but that seems to be a fluke season.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cust walks more than Howard

Howard’s 2008 OBP: .334
Cust: .369

That bandbox known as CBP, the fact that Utley and Burrell surround him, and the leadoff corps in front of him help him a lot.

I still like Ryan Howard and think he is a better overall player than Cust. But, the difference is slimmer than one would expect.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 14, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure how the hitters behind him affect his performance.

We’ve had debates here whether or not protection is a myth. I haven’t seen the stats showing that it is, but I’m certainly interested in that. Anyone have a link? The hitters infront of him definitely have an effect in terms of his RBI totals.

I don’t know. I actually think Jack Cust may be a better hitter than Ryan Howard. I’d like to see what would happen if we put Jack Cust in the NL in that ballpark and Ryan Howard on the A’s. Also, given the fact that Jack is much cheaper… the A’s are coming out way ahead.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitchers will walk Cust more than they will walk Howard

because whoever is hitting behind Cust is MUCH less likely to hit a triple or a HR to score Cust than Pat Burrell.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 14, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, haven't you heard?

Protection doesn’t exist. Kind of like dinosaurs, actually.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he exist?

We need salb918 to crunch the numbers.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The best I've seen..

is a review of the AL in 1991, which suggested that there isn’t much proof that protection exists.

Do pitchers suggest that protection exists? Just wondering.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Padilla the head hunter does it again

Well, maybe elbow hunter in this case.

GO A’S

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

YAY BLOOP HITS

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Now Padilla is an ass-hunter

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Add Padilla

to the list of incredibly ugly baseball players who likely get hotter girls than the average ANer.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

ET, phone home!

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well he does own his own baseball team in

Venezuela….

He better be able to pull hotties….Even if he looks like his face is made of dough

by laxtonto on Sep 14, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not for long.

Hugo Chavez is considering nationalizing baseball in Venezuela.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hugo should take Eric with him.

Get him off the A’s.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 14, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vicente Padilla = pond scum

“Hi, when I get frustrated I throw baseballs at people.”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

That's not fair

Pond scum is a higher form of life.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pond scum definitely

would not need 60 pitches to get through two innings.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Ellis just say Dr Freebird would do his surgery?

I have this image of a mulleted-redneck cutting into his shoulder with a Bowie knife.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe the turkeys are enacting their revenge

for all those Thanksgivings.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

... splashing Jack Daniels over it to sterilize it

“I hope Curt Young will remember …”

cocky whacko @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 14, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do I feel like this Ellis interview is an exit interview?

:(

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

It's feeling more and more that way

We’ll see, though.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Feels like it.

Although surgery = 90+% chance of arbitration accepted, since Ellis is a Type B whom the A’s should offer arbi to. So it probably means Ellis is more likely to stay.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 14, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crosby...

adopted the Alan Embree facial hair as well as his relative suckitude.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Cool

I was up there for work a few weeks ago and finally attended that ballpark. Very nice. Reminded me of Spring Training.

by easyraider on Sep 14, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woo hoo!

Brett Anderson, 7 strong innings for the win, CarGon a HR and 4 RBI, on his way to Oakland with Buck and Denorfia.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

A trip to Oklahoma City! Whee!

That game (Scranton/Wilkes-Barre vs. Sacramento) will be on ESPN2 Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.

by Soaker on Sep 14, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It should have occurred to me

that the River Cats are just extending their current stay in Oklahoma City by a couple of days.

Heh…if the Yankees want to go with the pitcher who would have 4 days rest, Kei Igawa would be their starting pitcher.

by Soaker on Sep 14, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might be the saddest game thread ever

Will it die of loneliness? Stay tuned.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

It's been awfully quiet lately.

But I was just at Viva El Birdos for the Cardinals/Pirates game, and that thread was even emptier than this one. I guess having their playoff hopes crushed over the last week and getting owned by the Pirates will do that to you.

by VORP is too nerdy on Sep 14, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

downloading video

I saw where you figured out how to download video using Firefox. Does anyone know how to do it w/o FF. If I send you some links, can you download some videos for me? :-)

39 remarkable innings.

by ZigFan31 on Sep 14, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, if you don't find a way to download vid w/o FF, I could do it for you.

Not sure how I would get them to you – could probably put it up on rapidshare or whatnot. I think that would work.

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool, thanks

I was trying to download some on mlb and other sites unsuccessfully. Driving me crazy! Want to test posting with some of the A’s commercials?

39 remarkable innings.

by ZigFan31 on Sep 14, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, which commercial you want?

I’m not sure if those might be in a different video format than the mlb.tv highlight clips, so my usual method might not work, but I will give it a shot.

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hummm maybe try one of each?

Then maybe I can send you some stuff off line.

39 remarkable innings.

by ZigFan31 on Sep 14, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was able to download the Pink commercial and am putting it on Rapidshare now as a test

but I tried to d/l some 2007 commercials and the format is different so the downloads aren’t working out… but I can try the links you want on a case-by-case basis and see which I can do

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys think Nelson Cruz

gets to be a minor league FA or does TX keep him on the 40 man? Looks like he has figured the whole MLB strike zone out now…

by laxtonto on Sep 14, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

One of the stats to watch in the last couple weeks

is whether Crosby will finish with a sub-.300 OBP for the third consecutive season. He was at .303 coming into today’s game.

by Soaker on Sep 14, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting to set up a stats comparison

between Crosby and the much-maligned Yuniesky Betancourt. Crosby walks more (43 to Betancourt’s 14) but also strikes out more (89 to 35). Power is very similar but Betancourt’s batting average is higher, resulting in almost identical OPS (Crosby .667, Betancourt .672). Betancourt has made 18 errors to Crosby’s 16.

by Soaker on Sep 14, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

We know who has the cooler name

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

AH!!

I took my pain medication right before Swooney got nailed in the ass! Shortly after, I went into happy land and couldn’t comment on the Dale rubbage he’d need.

My ass is hurting in almost the exact same spot as Swoon’s…. I told Poppy maybe Ry and I could rub each other’s asses.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Poppy then said I'd have to fight Dale.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then I said Dale could join.

Poppy responded with: “Baby Sandwich!”

Me: “Jennifer sandwich!”

Poppy: “I thought Baby sandwich would be the smarter way to go since you and Dale are both claustrophobic.”

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I got up from my coma just in time

to see Baby hit! Wee!

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

He clearly hits better with one butt cheek

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

And me around.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huston hangs sliders when you're around

:-(

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He does that when I'm not around.

:(

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

:-(

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 14, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does it always feel like we have 2 outs?

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm bored

Guess the A’s Facial Hair
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6.

Thumbnail links to full image.

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

#1 is both difficult to guess and some awful facial hair.

I have some more photos ready to guess that I’m going to put up tomorrow for the day off.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh good! (about the more guess photos)

That’s funny, I thought #1 was the easiest one. It’s grossing me out the more I look at it.

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see it now that I KNOW who it is.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

A waaaalk?

Boo. Now he’s just clogging up the bases.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Nedney just choked hard

Hooked a game-winner wide left.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see

1st miss in 41 tries, talk about bad luck. Bad time to miss

by asfaninpismobeach on Sep 14, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just checking scores now...

Wha, Jets lost to the Pats? I didn’t even hear my dad screaming. He must be dead…

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, I don't like football

I did grow up rooting against the Jets, though.

by schmifty on Sep 14, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better go check his pulse

He mught be passed out like my Dad. Beer, oysters and salami put old guys down for the count

by asfaninpismobeach on Sep 14, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You say that like it's a bad thing....

"...in baseball you wear a cap." -- george carlin

by Hot Cup Joe on Sep 14, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This really shouldn't be a surprise

Even without Brady, the Patriots are at least an 11-5 team. The Jets are a 7-9 team at best.

by thejd44 on Sep 14, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

AHHHH!!!

NICE!!

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Three-run Jimmy-Jack!

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I love our Rookies.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

It's like going to the Pound to pick up a new puppy

after your favorite pet was crushed by a trash truck.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, dealing with the loss of a pet dying would be completely negated

If we traded them in for a handful of new pets once they got to be 6 or 7 years old.

by thejd44 on Sep 14, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

crap

Niners win

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Sep 14, 2008 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

WIN, BITCHES!!

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 14, 2008 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice win!

Richie looked good with that homerun! Go A’s! Can’t wait to see the Rivercats on Tuesday night, then the A’s vs. Angels! What a night for baseball!

by A'sfansince1970 on Sep 14, 2008 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

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