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Open Thread: Game 146 - Rangers at A's (cont.)

Well, six runs for them, no runs for us. The vaunted Dustin Nippert continues his mastery of the A's, holding the green and gold (and red/white/blue tonight) to a pair of hits, matching their errors total...

Dallas Braden is no longer with us, having ceded his position to Captain Kirk Saarloos, who made things look easy easier in the 5th inning, getting the Rangers out after Braden had a very shaky four innings, looking nothing like his recent string of success in any way.

Halfway through the game, it's time for things to turn around. Go A's!

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I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 11, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Can we buy a freaking break? Please?

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 11, 2008 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

$20 plus beer?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nippert is impressing me

3rd straight nice outing

Kid throws gass

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I dedicate this thread to Schlitz!




Hic!

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

That guy looks wasted.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's Schlitz-faced.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That has to be Huston's real father.

The teeth!

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 11, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was pretty, Ryan.

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by pam5981 on Sep 11, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay Ryan!

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Time for Jeff Gray

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cage match:

Cliff Pennington vs. Josh Hamilton’s tattoo. Who wins?

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

which Tatoo?

hes got some petty crazy ones

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's say... right arm.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

hum....

it depends if its the one with the big cross or the evil looking face on it…

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not even fair.

Cliff is what, 12? Those tats have seen things you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy!

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 11, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is Blalock up again already?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Texas has four guys named 'Hank Blalock.'

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patterson = Not a 2Bman

I’d really like to see more of Pennington there – he looked better at 2B than he has at SS or 3B, and he appears to make occasional contact with the actual baseball.

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by Nico on Sep 11, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Intriguing.

And then who plays short?

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frank Thomas.

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by Jennifer on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah.

He’s not short. He’s tall.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen...

Mark Ellis, Eric Patterson, and Cliff Pennington could not be here tonight, but they all had sex and are proud to announce the birth of their two-headed baby, Eric MaEllington!!!

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

How did Ellis have sex with a torn shoulder cartilage?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a 'bottom.'

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need a shoulder to reproduce?

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 11, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

And neither tears a labrum...

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Pennington at 2B idea.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is the rally thread, right?

rally for a run?

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, now he gets a hit.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

still plenty of time...

6th inning, two on, no outs. The beginning of the comeback.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Sulphur Springs did it...

with much less time left in the game.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya but they had Schlitz riding on the outcome

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

all we need is a touchdown to take the lead...

how hard can that be?

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we don't have Shaved Rick Beaver

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Un run!

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay Cliff!

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Just got here

So the A’s are really worse than the Rangers? Really? The Rangers?

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by Philip Christy on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s a bad time to be an A’s fan.

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by Philip Christy on Sep 11, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers should run away with the division next year

if they play all their games against us.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

we might be worse than the Giants...

which is a really scary thought.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

not tonight, at least...

we’re only losing by 5 runs. They’re losing by 8.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The real question would be

would you trade minor leagues with them?

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we quickly promote Cahill, Anderson, Carter and Henry?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if Texas gets to promote

Feliz, Holland, Smoak, Andrus, Max Ramiezs, Borbon…etc….

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shall we call it all players with at least 4 years to FA?

If so, I’d say sure.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok... lets see...

Carter or Smoak?
Holland or Cahill?
Feliz or Anderson?
Cardenans or Andrus?
Borbon or Gonzalez?
Hurley or Gio?

Man…these systems will be crazy next year for MILB

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of those I'd take Smoak, Cahill, Feliz, Andrus, Carlos and Gio

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got a good comp for you to look at

look at Marcus Lemon A+ and Jose Vallejo AA as comps for Cardenas…

Neither of those guys make Texas top 15…

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don't really have an Inoa, but we have no Hamilton

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually.......

As far as iona, goes….

Even with Texas not landing Iona, they still signed 11 guys from LA this year…

Look at Perez, Font, Poveda, and Boscan…. Most of them are 18 and under and pitching in A ball or rookie ball

I dont know where Texas finds these guys, but they have invested a ton in LA the last 5 years…

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've certainly got a ways to go in Dominican and Venezuela,

but we’re on the right track methinks.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither is really highly touted by BA/scouts, whereas Cardenas is

The numbers say the three are about the same, and if anything Lemon is somewhat better.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

alot of is that they get overshadowed by their other teammates

Take Vallejo for example, he inst even the best speed/defense/power comdo on his AA team. Andrus and Borbon make him an after thought. Alot like some of the A’s 2nd tier pitchers with Cahill and Andrson

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is Vallejo better than Petit?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Petit is gonna be good...

.235/.270/.350… a guy who can hit with some pop. Finally!

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see how Vallejo is much different

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vallejo

AVG 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS OBP OPS
.292 29 4 11 81 42 4 .345 .760

Petit

AVG 2B 3B HR SB CS OBP SLG OPS
.269 14 3 1 3 5 .322 .344 .666

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

100 points in OPS

and the steals #’s…..

But does that over weight the SS vs. 2B

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya I guess they're not really comparable. Vallejo is

more in the Cardenas/Weeks mold.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah thats kinda what i was thinking...

the best comp i got for Petit is Arias that is already up for Kinsler….

BA driven OBP, great defense at SS…..Well that is if his shoulder ever comes back to full strength

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers could improve a lot next year just by

adding some defense, say Orlando Cabrera at SS and Corey Patterson in CF.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is Young is locked up long term

Looks like Young may be heading to 3rd, Davis to 1st, Teagarden to C, Kinsler at 2nd, Arias to SS till Andrus is ready unless they pick another stop gap….

As far as CF, Bobon will be ready soon, may even get a shot in ST

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya I was figuring Cabrera and Patterson

as Andrus/Borbon stopgaps. Can’t count on Arias.

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont know really

Texas will be doing some trading this winter, so there is not telling whats going to happen.

They have a lot of pieces that wont fit at the big league club that will be in high demand. Ill give this to Daniels, he can definately trade for prospects and draft

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

chippin' away

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay Kirk!

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Saarloos for Cy Young!!!

Honestly, Cliff Lee hasn’t been that good.

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by Nico on Sep 11, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Kirk, good job!

HOPE, bitches!

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Omigod, did you see???

They just showed Mindi and Shari and Shelli and Tori and Mari and Mandi and Lori in the standgrands!!!!!

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by Nico on Sep 11, 2008 9:27 PM PDT reply actions  

But not Cindi?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw it.

Awesome!

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to study for a retake of my Conditioning midterm

Memo to Ms. Kerrigan: Grrrrr, you SUCK!!! :-(

-Cindi

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by Nico on Sep 11, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!

I don’t get it.

-Cindi

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by Nico on Sep 11, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Cindi bald?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZOMG

Look at those dude clamoring over empty seats for a foul ball.
So sad.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Wouldn't it be quicker just to tarp off all the fans?

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by Nico on Sep 11, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZOM double-G

Look at this looser from Iowa commenting on an empty blog.
So sad.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Empty?

You discounting your fellow fans?

More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Sep 11, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

What, all five of us?

Just kidding, I fucking love you guys!

GO A’S, GODDAMMIT!

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iowa has 3 million "season ticket holders"

Can the A’s say the same ; )

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Cubs?

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

BAAARRRF!

Ok, I kinda like the Cubs.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill White...

now pitching for the Rangers. We gotta knock this guy around, right?

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

guess not...

new record for Oakland A’s… Jack Cust.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is "we" we're talking about

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least, Jack set an Oakland record tonight

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Gray!

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to have to go to a game...

looks like the odds of getting a foul ball for Galt are about 50 to 1. That’s pretty good. I’ll just have to tell him to out scrap those 15 year olds.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply actions  

My Dad has a Bucky Dent home run ball.

Had to tackle a few kids to get it, but it was totally worth it.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a Raider football...

for a few seconds when I was… like 7 years old. Until security took it away. They were booed unmercifully.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I caught a Giambi foul ball once.

At an A’s-Royals game. It bounced off the dugout and was about to hit my old man in the face, until I caught it. That was awesome. Unlike tonight’s game.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brother caught one

It was the last touchdown scored in Oakland before the Raiders moved.

One of the Chicago Bear rookies (a Stanford grad) was so hyped about his first NFL TD, he chucked it into the stands, and into my brother’s hands. Funny thing is we had moved down from the third deck into the first deck. We left immediately with John holding the ball under his shirt.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 11, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least, he got to keep his...

mine was on a live ball on a kickoff that went out of bounds. I grabbed that sucker and started scrambling up the steps. My dad was yelling “thow it up here.” Then, security caught me. Hey, I was little and still had some respect for authority at that age.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Jeff Gray, nice job!

HOPE once again, btiches!!!!!

Oh God, I’m so tired.

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Frank Francisco!

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by WaddellCanseco on Sep 11, 2008 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

oh well...

new Burn Notice episode coming up at 10. That should be much more entertaining than this game was.

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by FoolshGame22 on Sep 11, 2008 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Well guys it was fun

I dont think ill make it for the next 2, but hopefully ill stop by for the Sunday game….

Have a good one

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeez, we suck.

Or, I don’t know, maybe there’s still hope. I do know this: I drank too much Schlitz tonight.

I love you all!!!!

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by IowaA'sFan on Sep 11, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

drinking

Sam Adams Oktoberfest…

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

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