DLD for 8/7/08

the hardball times:
Rank Baseball’s Ethical Scenarios

interview with the assistant GM of the stockton ports

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by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fans of moneybutt should love the ethical scenarios game.

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by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

first link: disappointing

I was anticipating Baseball’s Rank Ethical Scenarios

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Canadian Tuxedo Appreciation Night

{snerk}

Jean-On-Jean Offense

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and here I thought

you were talking about a 70’s-80’s rock band lead singer committing a crime against the today show movie critic.

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by 5Aces on Aug 7, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually, I'm thinking of a particular AN'er ...

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

who who............................................................

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 7, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did about 20 of the questions and I kept thinking to myself

that neither of the scenarios were unethical at all. I guess it made me think harder about the question. And I suppose other people might not think sign stealing or leaning into the rope was ethical though.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what's unclear to me was what we were supposed to assess as "unethical"

Each scenario involves at least one actor, and multiple conflicts/choices/actions.

And if a scenario itself is “unethical,” well … (a) that’s life, and (b) none of the actions themselves can be unethical.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It certainly very specific on that, but I assumed there must be some deep psychological

reason for phrasing it the way they did, like gleaning inner thoughts from my subconscious.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

* was not ver specific*

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

very

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I kept getting the arrow shot at Reggie Jackson. Certainly who ever shot it is unethical, but does that somehow make the Yankees unethical? Are we seriously supposed to equate attempted murder and juicing baseballs on an ethics scale?

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by nevermoor on Aug 7, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I kept getting the Barry Bonds/Guernica choice

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I ran a university I would definitely abolish "American Studies"

This is piece of evidence #4,512. I’m going to print it out and paste it in my “American Studies is incredibly stupid” scapbook.

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’ve always wondered if a [group] studies degree helps or hurts when looking for a real job.

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by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably hurts more than helps in that any [group] studies

course of study probably gives you a (with all due respect) worthless/non-specific skillset.

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by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jakk Kust majored in strickout studies

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And he got a job

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

eventually

They want to steal the land papers which is why they have tried to break in. But they had to give up after being bitten by Chhotu.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 7, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

personally, I'd expand that to include 99% of the humanities

(And I state that as a humanities major.)

All this, of course, presumes that academia ≠ “real job.”

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also law...

I find it to be rather unfortunate that people basically have to make a tradeoff between studying the humanities and their career. It’s a great way to create a dismally bad voter-base for a democracy. You can make a (non-ridiculous) case that the government should actually pay people to study the humanities so that they will actually make sensible public policy decisions as voters.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can make a (non-ridiculous) case that the government should actually pay people to study the humanities so that they will actually make sensible public policy decisions as voters.

I think this statement is sort of ironic…

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm really curious about this "non-ridiculous case", unless Paul meant

pay people to study a broad curriculum including humanities.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha!

Good point—though I think/hope PT was advocating more of a core-curriculum-type program than a WPA-type have-the-government-subsidize-Pynchon-scholars program.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Win Probablility Added?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the government should pay for some ANers

to go to some remedial WPA training.

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not convinced that having everyone read the classics would help

I am, however, convinced that having students do something other than study to the newest test would help.

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by nevermoor on Aug 7, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Such as....?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Taking the THT ethics test

Or napping in class.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess I'm prepared to face the world now.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kust H8ers have obviously never read Ethan Frome

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So studying the humanities would make for a

more TTO friendly fanbase?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

or perhaps just a more sled-hostile one

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

I would also argue that a better understanding of science (including statistics) would have much greater benefits than the humanities when it comes to making sensible public policy decisions. But probably that’s showing my own biases.

(Along those same lines, when I was in graduate school I somehow got roped into being one of my department’s representatives to the Graduate Assembly for a couple of years. Not surprisingly, the budding politicians from the law school usually ended up dominating the proceedings. But I remember being struck on at least one occasion by the fact that the people from the School for Public Policy seemed particularly clueless about what constituted reasonable public policy.)

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by andeux on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well they were not from the school for reasonable public policy…

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by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think people need to study "science" per se

as in I don’t think they need to learn any particular or very many facts about science if not interested.

But I think everyone should study statistics, or “quantitative reasoning” or empiricism more broadly, or “good ways of reasoning,” which is lacking in the mumbo-jumbo-based humanities, of which there are many.

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure...

I’m not trying to argue that statistics, science, etc are UNimportant. It’s not mutually exclusive.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not getting the irony, apparently

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the government pays people to study humanities so that they

make better policy decisions, the most sure decision they’re likely to make is that to maintain and expand the program to pay people to study humanities.

Any other policy changes are highly unpredictable.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Couldn't you say that about pretty much any government program?

Or, hell, any program done by anyone?

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes but the irony is that this one was specifically designed

to improve public policy decision making.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

study, or major in?

The biggest problem with the humanities is that colleges allow too many people to major in them (the problem is worse w/r/t grad study in them)—there’s little feedback between the job market and the majors market.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, there's also the problem that humanities

literally study less. They have fewer courses they have to take, fewer assignments in each course, and to boot, their professors inflate grades.

It’s not that the humanities don’t have value. they do. It’s that their curriculum doesn’t force rigor.

by ohmangoAs on Aug 7, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can also make a case that the government should

actually pay people to study science and technology so that when they make policy decisions, as either voters or politicians, they don’t do ridiculous things like tout “The Hydrogen Economy” or “ethanol from corn.”

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And understand that inflating their tires actually WOULD help a lot

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure it would

but it would help as much in the future as it does right now, or six months ago. or will there now be massive fines to enforce proper tire pressure?

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by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If everyone did it

It would help infinity times as much as drilling in the next 10-15 years and three times as much as drilling forever after that.

But I think we’re veering into waters that I should never have entered. So: sorry everyone.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what if everyone stopped driving cars altogether?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure, the cars would all be abandoned on the roads ...

... but we could get Emil Brown to drive them in.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And we could sit at home and post on internet boards

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I detect a pro-robot bias

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ethanol from corn can be delicious

I do prefer helium to hydrogen for inhaling though.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not N2O?

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by andeux on Aug 7, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I avoid compounds. They're hard to understand.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The point I'm getting at here

is that one presumes that those studies are already being adequately compensated for by the job market… whereas study of (cough) history, literature, etc. has positive externalities that aren’t compensated for at all by the job market.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This certainly was not true for a 1980's Pomona graduate.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not true that study of science was rewarded?

Or not true that study of humanities wasn’t?

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That humanities majors had limited job opportunities

or their thinking skills weren’t compensated for in the job market. They went into a wide variety of professions. It is probably true that science majors were thought to be smarter in some circles though, since the hard sciences were thought to be tougher subjects—true or not.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The job market may reward those who major in hard sciences.

But at most schools even science majors have to take a fair number of humanities courses, whereas many people graduate from good schools with a degree in the humanities without ever taking a class that requires any quantitative reasoning skills.

Of course, the majority of people don’t go to college at all, despite the fact that the job market certainly rewards having a degree.

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by andeux on Aug 7, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are core curricula not popular these days.

I had to take three classes in either math or science….I actually took more since I minored in math.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Core curricula have become exceptionally unpopular

for reasons I don’t really understand. I guess it’s just laziness.

At Amherst it is now possible to graduate having taken only 8 required courses, that being the minimum needed for a major in certain fields (English, for sure). If I recall rightly, there is no required breadth of courses at all.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. That's weak.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

I spent a decent proportion of college basically throwing darts at the course catalog, just out of curiousity about other subjects. It kind of boggled my mind how much the purpose of having “gen ed” requirements was undermined by having soft-tossing classes directed at particular majors as a way to avoid actually, like, learning something different. The arts majors took classes like “Life in the Sea” to count as their quantitative/math requirement, while engineering/comp sci majors all took Tech Writing to count as their writing and composition requirement.

Nowadays, it seems like asking people to considering taking courses outside their intended major is a ghastly sin. It’s bizarre.

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by Kyli on Aug 8, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Example

The compressed air car.

Another expert expressed concern about the amount of energy it would take to generate the required air pressure: 4,500 pounds per square inch, or more than 120 times the pressure inside the tires of a typical four-door sedan.
...
If you count that energy, it’s hard to believe the car would be that much more efficient than an electric vehicle, Callister said.

IF you count that energy? IF? IF? All people see is 100 mpg and think, “oooh, cheap and green!” And I’m sure the compressed air is free…

Whaddaloadabaloney.

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by salb918 on Aug 8, 2008 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When I want to college a few years after the industrial revolution,

undergraduate majors didn’t matter that much. You usually were well served to take some courses in your area of future interest (e.g. accounting if you wanted to be an accountant), but humanities majors ended up in all kinds of fields from investment banking to medicine to law to politics.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

still the case I think

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now you're well-served in finishing college with some kind of skill.

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by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My college certainly required a lot of breadth

Even if some of it was annoying at the time.

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by nevermoor on Aug 7, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the A's

have lost 9 games in a row

"The two of them deserve each other. One's a born liar, the other's convicted."

by SwampyD on Aug 7, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the 18 of 20 is more impressive.

It’s sustained exellence.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't skimp on the glitter

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I heart my AmStud degree

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by batgirl on Aug 7, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stanford gets points for not having an actual department

not sure if they did when you were there, but I have no problem with an interdisciplinary program that you can major in.
My guess:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/HSP/AmStud/people_faculty.html
Fine scholars all on that page, which the exception of Mr. Gillam, who likely is a purveyor of mumbo-jumbo.

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

terry gillam?

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by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually, given Gilliam's areas of specialty, he's probably fairly mainstream

(Depends, of course, on what, exactly, you consider to be mumbo-jumbo. There’s PC mumbo-jumbo, PoMo mumbo-jumbo, and admixtures thereof.)

Bukatman is a big mumbo-jumbo-izer (of the latter category), but he’s also pretty sharp.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dislike both types of mumbo-jumbo, but I mostly dislike pomo (they often overlap)

All of them of smart; not saying that. Probably everyone on that page is smarter than me… But nonsense is nonsense.

I bet I would enjoy Bukatman’s classes, but if I read his essays I would roll my eyes.

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I don't get the hate for humanities degrees.

Getting a philosophy degree was one of the best decisions I ever made. It was as useful for learning how to think and write as anything else I could have done.

I agree with making everyone take a quantitative reasoning course, though.

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by jeepers on Aug 7, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, that was my major too....

and it taught me to recognize mumbo jumbo…

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by mikeA on Aug 7, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That too.

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by jeepers on Aug 7, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think there's any hate for humanities degrees if the person doing

the hiring has one or has hired other successful people with one.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know that anyone's alleging Humanities H8in' ...

... just that diagramming an eclogue (or a Napoleonic flanking maneuver) isn’t an especially remunerative skill.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thinking is a remunerative skill. Or at least convincing people

that you engage in it.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

um, try getting a job where your major qualification on your resume is "thinking"

Employers value doing (and having done) as evidence of thinking.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 8, 2008 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I think humanities have value

but they don’t work humanities majors as hard as they could or should. Seriously, I have so many friends for whom class + assignments is a total of 12 hours a week.

Don’t you think they’d be better prepared for life if they learned more by working harder?

Also, to be clear, this is a criticism of the way humanities are taught, not humanities themselves, or the people who study them.

by ohmangoAs on Aug 7, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be honest, with undergrad at least,

my experience was that you could slack in pretty much any major with a little bit of ingenuity. I knew just as many class-dodging, lazy stoners who graduated with comp sci, math, and bio degrees as with art, history, and sociology degrees.

Or many it’s just that I hung out with a lot of stoners.

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by Kyli on Aug 8, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

And there’s a lot to learn in college outside of class. I don’t think hours of class + assignments is a very good proxy for learning more. I might even say that if some of the engineering/hard science majors eased back on hours of class + assignments they’d produce more productive graduates.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 8, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reggie Sexton, HR Advisor

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm glad he was able to set his personal problems aside for the greater good.

It’s a sign of maturity.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about Babs Budde?

Coconut Pineapple

by Ice Cream on Aug 7, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

YAY!

Bradford to the Rays

Bradford stats – despite the insanely low K-rate, he still gets tons of groundballs, keeps the ball in the park, and doesn’t allow very many walks. The Rays have an average infield defense, so it doesn’t play into a strength, but considering that this should, on balance, help the Rays – which means that it hurts the Red Sox and Yanks – I love it. I hope they use him as a strategic weapon to get Jeter to hit into a pennant-killing GIDP.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yet another example of AN's anti-Empire bias.

Aren’t we better than that?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take anti-Empire bias over anti-empirical bias any day of the week

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm....so you're saying I need more data points before concluding an anti-Empire bias?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you need a different data cut on the bias

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So my data is biased in favor of a presence of bias conclusion?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was transitioning to a different metaphor/bad pun

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

D'oh! I'm a terrible straight man

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe you should buy an American pickup truck and stop watching Project Runway

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I can't drink while driving a pickup truck.

And I can’t watch Project Runway without a drink.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d prefer they just use him as a strategic weapon to hit Jeter, but your way is cool too.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Aug 7, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sensing an anti-Jeter bias

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

best thing about the Wash video ...

He’s careful to grab Wilson’s right (i.e., non-pitching) elbow.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Childcare 101

Hold her leg if she’s riding on the roof of the car.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Needs more ...

... screaming.

Coconut Pineapple

by Ice Cream on Aug 7, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"No, unless round is funny."

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vote Brad Ziegler as AL Rookie of the Month

If you don’t mind giving MLBAM all your personal info

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Aug 7, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WTF

Pit bull’s cloner outed as Mormon’s kidnapper

That Ms McKinney thrilled British tabloid readers in 1978 when she faced charges over kidnapping a 110kg male Mormon missionary, Kirk Anderson, whom she chained to a bed with mink handcuffs and forced to have sex. She famously said of her victim: “I loved him so much that I would ski naked down Mt Everest with a carnation up my nose if he asked me to.”

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

why would one ever need to handcuff a mink?

I know Mink is Eddie Dane’s boy …

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

more

After failing to persuade him to marry her and father her children, she donned see-through lingerie and forced him to have sex with her, reportedly resolutely overcoming his Mormon chastity belt. He finally escaped and Ms McKinney was arrested.

so to recap, 110kg missionary chained with mink handcuffs and wearing a chastity belt.

even more:

She was eventually tracked down and appeared topless in magazines before the authorities caught up with her, but Britain never attempted to extradite her.
The Daily Mail reported yesterday that Joyce McKinney resurfaced in 1984, when she was arrested near Salt Lake City Airport, where Kirk Anderson was working. In her car, police found rope and handcuffs.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

In initially read that as "where Kirk Anderson was working in her car"

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the fact that this guy was 250 pounds makes me think he was a willing participant, but then she showed up in SLC 6 years later with rope and handcuffs…

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How big was she?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

see parenthesis below

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

my favorite part

She was eventually tracked down and appeared topless in magazines before the authorities caught up with her …

That was definitely written by a humanities major.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

mine:

A Joyce Bernann McKinney is registered as living in Avery County, North Carolina – birthplace of the Mormon sex slave kidnapper, it reported.
But when contacted by The Times yesterday, Bernann McKinney denied she was the same woman. “That’s garbage, that’s rot,” she said.

she’s some other mckinney from north carolina and not the woman who kidnapped a man in surrey and spent time in a british jail, that’s rot!

(regarding that other part, GIS “Joyce McKinney and the Manacled Mormon”)

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't the use of the phrase "that's rot"

represent pretty clear evidence that she spent a lot of time (rotting?) in a British jail?

I don’t think I’ve ever heard an American use that phrase.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

that’s my point.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 7, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Queen's-English papers often "translate" slang, though

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you missed them the Dr. Horrible Sing-Along Blog Acts are making there way through Youtube

Act 1
Part 1 of 2

Part 2 of 2

Act 2
link

Act 3
Part 1 of 2
link

Part 2 of 2
link

Its a pretty good laugh and the whole thing runs about 45-50 minutes

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

God I love that!

NPH is awesome in it! I posted the first act a while back in a DLD. That’s about standards, haha!

Here’s a link to the site

The quality is a bit better.

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Aug 7, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's still on Hulu as well

good quality and free…just a few ads :-)

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 7, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah the site is much better but they are not free at this point

btw i have heard the Joss Weldon and the cast may be making some more of them soon

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 7, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Free

here.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 7, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry,

thought the site redirected you to HULU.

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Aug 7, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, you're right!

My bad :-)

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 7, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1, love Dr. Horrible

by asfansince1989 on Aug 7, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah,

I’m such a nerd!

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Aug 7, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a girl crush

on Felicia Day

A lot of guys ignore the laugh, and that's about standards,

by lynnzgal on Aug 8, 2008 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

NPH is a god among men.

If he were on the A’s, we would be swimming in World Series trophies that were made of sheer awesome. To the point that all players would pick up a strange green and gold bioluminescence to demonstrate their sheer aura of awesome.

I squee in hopes that Jed’s comments at Comic Con were true and there may be future works of Dr. Horrible.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Aug 8, 2008 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear you!

Love, love, love him!

A lot of guys ignore the laugh, and that's about standards,

by lynnzgal on Aug 8, 2008 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, um, the game starts in 2 minutes and there's no game thread.

Weird.

by mikev on Aug 7, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

rebuildingseason.blogspot.com

by Rebuilding Season on Aug 7, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought we are already all dead

after the all star break

by asfansince1989 on Aug 7, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's there now

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Aug 7, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

fyi, game threads are usually set to auto-post right at gametime

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd prefer they auto-posted earlier

Like 20 minutes before game time. I’m not a regular gamethreader, but when I do partake I often enjoy the pre-game banter about lineups, matchups, Ray Fosse’s “questions” in the pre-game interview, whether Marty Lurie was an uncredited legal resource in some of John Yoo’s opinions, that sort of thing. Once the game starts there’s less chance for those conversations, though they’re day-of-game specific.

They want to steal the land papers which is why they have tried to break in. But they had to give up after being bitten by Chhotu.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 7, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

in this case, it was just louis flaking out :)

I for one will certainly keep this request in mind for my days.

There’s also the element of the lineup widget, which still (so far as I know) won’t auto-refresh, so it can’t be posted until the data is in the system—and I think most of us Santangelos prefer to post the initial game thread and be done with it.

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs