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Huston, We Really Have A Problem

We'll work in backwards chronological order and start with the bottom of the 9th, which saw a 3-2 A's lead turn into a 4-3 loss. One reason I like to watch games instead of relying on box score data is that not all hits, runs, processes, and outcomes are alike. I am here to tell you that having watched the bottom of the 9th, it is stunning how bad the three pitches were that Street threw to Rios (single), Barajas (double), and Mench (single). The first was a fastball, center cut, with just nothing on it. The last two were hanging sliders that would be hard to miss. On a night when the A's collectively, and Huston Street individually, desperately needed to show some success, Street just looked overmatched for the task. I have no explanations, just observations - and the A's have themselves a real dilemma here.

In the top of the 8th, with Oakland leading 3-2, Carlos Gonzalez' fourth hit loaded the bases with nobody out and Emil Brown pinch ran for Frank Thomas at second base. Ellis followed with a soft line drive to the SS hole that seemed to hang forever, in slow motion, before John McDonald made a fine diving catch. The rule of thumb, if you've ever played Little League baseball, is "live drive, go back to the bag" until you see it go through to the outfield. As slowly as the play unfolded, you wonder how on God's green earth Emil Brown could manage to get doubled off of second base. There's a reason he is so villified on AN - the season is now bookended with tough losses on blown saves by Street, preceded by ridiculous baserunning blunders from Emil Brown.

And so it goes. Many positives, from Carlos Gonzalez' four hit game to Ryan Sweeney's three hit game, from Greg Smith's outstanding 6 innings of work to Brad Ziegler's continuingly-historical 2 innings of work, wasted in an eighth consecutive exercise in futility. And the A's brass left scratching their heads pondering why Street suddenly can't do anything right, and wondering whether the A's will ever win a baseball game again.

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More importantly, why didn't he run through the stop sign?

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Davis did what Brown should have...took a step back to the bag on contact.

Brown did what Davis should have done…break on contact. It’s been that kind of a year.

by cvdoug on Aug 5, 2008 7:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

With one out, I'm sure they send Raj

You can’t really blame a coach for holding a runner at third with nobody out if it looks iffy.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Caution

Watching huston street will lower your life expectancy. Do not expose hit pitching to pregnant women or children as he is toxic.

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 7:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Too late. I'm 18 and he exposed me to anti-wrinkle cream.

AHHHH! I left the stove on!!!
********OaKlAnDaThLeTiCs********

by LiZaRdReVoLuTiOn on Aug 5, 2008 8:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Aw C'mon

Dotel and Rhodes were much more toxic than Street anyday. My doctor advised me not to watch them at all.

by somebodyelse on Aug 5, 2008 9:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

tru

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 10:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Billy Koch?

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on Aug 6, 2008 9:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

the a's have handled street poorly...

for a guy that is ridiculously positive all the time, the A’s/geren destroyed what little confidence huston had left with the confidence shattering thought save situations would be split with blevins and ziegler.

by inbillywetrust on Aug 5, 2008 7:09 PM PDT   0 recs

I think the more pertinent question is

If the A’s loaded the bases with nobody out in a key situation and managed to score, would the earth split in half and we would all fall to Hades bouncing off every single rocky crag along the way?

by jdr on Aug 5, 2008 7:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I give even odds to hades

We don’t have a hercules on our team

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Caution

Watching huston street will lower your life expectancy. Do not expose hit pitching to pregnant women or children as he is toxic.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 7:12 PM PDT   0 recs

It's almost funny at this point.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Streams Of Whiskey on Aug 5, 2008 7:13 PM PDT   0 recs

Thanks Street. Thanks Brown.

Eff both of you.

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by Flashfire on Aug 5, 2008 7:14 PM PDT   0 recs

Save time

eff each other

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 7:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If you can't eff your friends

Well then, who can you eff?

:)’

by mrod on Aug 5, 2008 7:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Such a good movie!

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm assuming Street has options left, right?

I mean, let’s face it, right now he has the worst stuff in our pen. Even Embree’s stuff is better than Street’s right now. It really looks like batting practice out there.

by Blez on Aug 5, 2008 7:15 PM PDT   0 recs

wow....that's low bro

worse than embree? nah, you’re right.

by inbillywetrust on Aug 5, 2008 7:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huston's pitches stole a lyric from Tenacious D

“That’s levitation, homes!”

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 7:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No, he doesn't.

He’s in his fourth year, and does not have options. The DL is where he should be parked.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 5, 2008 8:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No, and he has to stand in the long line at the airport

And no soup. One year.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 8:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Try a 30-minute brisk walk

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 9:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Does being in his fourth year mean he doesn't have options?

I thought Barry Bonds had all his options remaining.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 8:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Street absolutely has options...

He’s never been sent down before.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 5, 2008 8:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Total Jeebus.....

“A nice poker term used at the high stakes tables by your truly and my partners in crime”.

*M-Rod

by mrod on Aug 5, 2008 7:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rotoworld is awesome

Carlos Gonzalez went 4-for-4 with a double and a pair of runs scored in a loss to the Blue Jays on Tuesday night.

This season has been a learning experience for the 22-year-old outfielder. That he managed three hits against left-handed starter Greg Smith is certainly encouraging, considering that Gonzalez entered the game batting .197 against southpaws.

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by Flashfire on Aug 5, 2008 7:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Well...

they are right in how impressive it was even if they were wrong about why it was so impressive.

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by DMOAS on Aug 5, 2008 7:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Except that he impressively got hits off of lefties

by getting four hits off of righties.

Impressive.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

might be a record.

we should check.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 5, 2008 7:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I checked all the left-handed hitters,

and Vlad Guerrero did it once.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

that one hurt, Nico

was the last game we won, the one where I offered supplication to the Baseball Gods?

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 5, 2008 7:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't remember when we last won a game

I don’t think we ever have. Strangely, our last two wins have been started by Eveland and Braden. Wheeeeee.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

WE HAVE NEVER WON ANYTHING EVAR!!!

BEENE SUKKS

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 5, 2008 8:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't that type of caption

usually accompany a picture of a cat doing something remotely human?

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 11:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A's lose again

street blows another save. yeah yeah whatever.

ZIGGY STREAK AT 34!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The glare was not practiced. I would get into the game situations, and when that happens, there comes a level of concentration that most can only imagine but can never achieve. You become what you are doing, and that is what you see on my face. -Dave Stewart

by Hegenberger Road on Aug 5, 2008 7:20 PM PDT   0 recs

4 out of 5 though, right?

Dating back to the infamous Angels game that set the earth on a fiery spiral into the bowels of Hades.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

no crap

i never could have imagined it they would be this bad. would selig make us play ellis and crosby and any other vets if we went all sacramento on them?

by KCB58 on Aug 5, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Make street our garbage man

Down by >2 runs, Embree/Street
Down by <= 2 runs, Brown/Casilla
even or up, Blevin/Ziggy

by asfansince1989 on Aug 5, 2008 7:25 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes!

thank you!

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Two problems with that plan:

1. Brown is on the DL
2. That plan would just cause you to learn to hate Brown and Casilla

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So Street and Embree get all the innings?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No S.

And where is Devine in this plan?

by somebodyelse on Aug 5, 2008 9:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Update

Down big: Embree/Street
Down a little, Casilla/Devine
Even/up: Blevins/Ziggy

Once Devine gets back in the groves, swap him with Blevins. And some of those guys need to toughen up and learn to pitch >1 inning, and maybe more difficult, be good enough to last > 1 inning.

by asfansince1989 on Aug 5, 2008 9:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank You!

Again!

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 11:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You'll get no arguments from me here

That was an abysmal inning. Every ball was hammered except the one grounder. Even the first out was on a line drive. Talk all you want about the blown chance to expand the lead—that ball to the gap was 2 more runs if the game had continued.

Maybe it’s dead arm, maybe it’s the groin, I don’t know—fact is, right now Street is not an effective pitcher for whatever reason. Make up some excuse and put him on the DL—call it “shoulder fatigue” or something.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 5, 2008 7:26 PM PDT   0 recs

If it were me

I’d DL him with a bad case of “I can’t f&%ing take it anymore!”

The glare was not practiced. I would get into the game situations, and when that happens, there comes a level of concentration that most can only imagine but can never achieve. You become what you are doing, and that is what you see on my face. -Dave Stewart

by Hegenberger Road on Aug 5, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think that's we DL YOU with

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure Huston has similar feelings

The glare was not practiced. I would get into the game situations, and when that happens, there comes a level of concentration that most can only imagine but can never achieve. You become what you are doing, and that is what you see on my face. -Dave Stewart

by Hegenberger Road on Aug 5, 2008 7:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huston is frustrated and will bounce back for the long haul

according to his call to Robert Buan’s extra innings show

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by oaklandSMASH on Aug 5, 2008 11:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You are correct about the double. It would have scored another man or so

Street and some bad managing were the keys to the loss. (The main mistake by the manager was keeping Street in).

by Yellowhorse on Aug 5, 2008 7:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm tired of Geren's perverse fascination with the pinch runner...

one time maybe, BUT you can’t take both big bats out of the line up (see Cust and Thomas in top of 8th). Even if Street only gives up one we lose because we can’t score without those bats – even if they hadn’t done anything as of today’s game.

by 33SwisherSweet on Aug 5, 2008 7:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

PT, glad you finally came around to the Street Sucks line of thinking..

he’s been scaring the crap out of me since last season. He’s had the worst stuff in the pen for the majority of THIS season.

by 33SwisherSweet on Aug 5, 2008 7:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to speak for PT, but I think his point is

not that Street sucks, or has sucked in the past, just that he was genuinely awful tonight.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm in the same boat

Though, I’ll admit for the last 4 weeks or so he’s been awful. Whatever the problem is, we’re not seeing what he’s really capable of, but he’s a lot better than this.

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by DMOAS on Aug 5, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's clearly getting worse

Probably whatever physical and the ensuing psychological are combining. This is the worst I’ve seen. Score one for the Brewer scouts.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No kidding.

I’m just hoping it’s purely mechanical and that we’re just going to have to spend the rest of the year watching him work through it. But if he isn’t hurt, I kind of feel like they need to do exactly what they’re doing. He’s not going to hurt the season any and I’d prefer him to get it figured out this year than over the course of next year.

The only concern I have is that it may be physical in his arm, but not painful leading him towards a Tommy John situation once the pain starts to show. He’s got the loss of speed, he’s got the loss effectiveness, all he needs now is pain in the elbow.

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by DMOAS on Aug 5, 2008 8:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's already a pain in the ass

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 8:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well if he didn't steal

all the offense’s bats, maybe he wouldn’t have to pitch as often.

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by DMOAS on Aug 5, 2008 8:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't

He doesn’t suck. He’s not pitching well right now. There’s a major difference.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 5, 2008 8:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I blame Geren for this one

Street should not have closed this game. He’s not pitching well. He shouldn’t be in this role. Geren himself said so.

by richwol1 on Aug 5, 2008 11:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Huston Street, you're breaking my heart.

[QOTM, unfortunately still relevant division?]

by whiteshoes40 on Aug 5, 2008 7:26 PM PDT   0 recs

lol

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 5, 2008 10:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Where's Pam?

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by oblique on Aug 5, 2008 10:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm right here.

Feeling vindicatd.

by pam5981 on Aug 5, 2008 11:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm gonna go change my vote.

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by oblique on Aug 5, 2008 11:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

where was joey devine?

Isn’t he healthy? He needs to replace street.

by sf drift king on Aug 5, 2008 7:30 PM PDT   0 recs

He didn't look too good before the rain delay

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 7:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Did you see his 0+ innings at Fenway?

Not quite there yet.

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by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 7:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And yet

better than the 1/3 inning of Street tonight. Go figure :)

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by DMOAS on Aug 5, 2008 7:54 PM PDT to parent up