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Gio called up

According to this article, Gio's en route to the big club. While I would have preferred to have him stay down just a little bit longer to keep working on his control, he has been dominating AAA at times. I suspect if Meyer didn't have to pitch last night, he would have gotten the start Thursday. Instead, looks like it's Gio's debut. If Eveland gets his control back, I wonder if he comes back up (and Gio goes down) in a few weeks. Well...let's see what the kid can do Wednesday.

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Since I officially entered "Root for the Fantasy Team First" mode a while ago

At least I’ll finally get some K’s out of that bench spot.

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by Rebuilding Season on Aug 5, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally

My wish has been granted!

Get the guys up now, start getting experience NOW. Why wait? I want to rebuild/win sooner than later and there is no better experience than the real deal.

Even if people aren’t ready, why baby them? What is the advantage of dominating hitters @ AAA but not pitching in the bigs so you don’t get your self esteem hurt?

How about pride. Pitchers need that & they need to learn from mistakes.

I don’t care how bad/good Gio pitches, I just hope he stays put.

by BillMoresi on Aug 5, 2008 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

There are plenty of reasons to wait

Service time, options (depending on the guy), ruining his confidence by having him fail when he’s not ready.

It’s silly to act as if there’s no logical reasons to not call up certain guys.

by thejd44 on Aug 5, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s silly to ask why wait to call someone up, than it’s got to be at least ten times more silly to say you’re waiting so you don’t “ruin his confidence”.

Personally, I’d rather see tough pitchers on the mound, like Dave Stewart. These fickle pitchers who have their “confidence ruined” by being called to the majors haven’t what it takes with the bases jammed, 2 outs and protecting a one run lead in game 7 of the ALCS.

You should want pitchers who thrive on pressure and to find out if they can hack it is a good thing.

In regards to options, the hope is we call him up and never have to send him down again. If we’re truly rebuilding, why send him down like we’ve done with Eric Patterson after such a small sample size.. why not let them grow on the roster?

Service time… yea, rot away in the minors because we don’t want to use your valuable service time in the minors.

How about the A’s learn to be… not so cheap?

Being in Oakland and being a “small market franchise” is laughable and of their own design, unfortunately. There is no way a team that has performed as well as the A’s have consistently should be a “small market”, unless your organization is not that well run, which the A’s aren’t in certain regards. I live in Folsom, CA and I can’t see the A’s games. I just moved up here from Sacramento, CA, home of the River Cats, and I didn’t get to see the games. The radio signal sucks. Maybe it’s time they invested some money in making the product available so people could even be interested.

I mean, how else in holy hell can you explain the Giants being so amazingly popular with their horrible play compared to the A’s? Barry Bonds isn’t playing this year so that is no longer an excuse…..

by BillMoresi on Aug 5, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

110% agree on the cheap, crappily run franchise part.

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head…

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drawing 12,000 a game is a good reason why the A's are small market

I’m not even going to waste my time with the rest of this because it made my head hurt.

by thejd44 on Aug 6, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Details are hit or miss at this point

but then again a lot of this season has been a miss when dealing with the A’s

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 5, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crosby!?!??

Alas, probably just Braden, Meyer or Lenny.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imma guess

DiNardo.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 5, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

likeliest scenario is Chavez to the 60-day DL

This is the highest-known density of gorillas that's ever been found. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 5, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Crosby DFA!

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

why do that?

he earned himself another couple months by going yard.

by HRH on Aug 5, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap. You're right.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That creates a spot on the 40-man roster

But they need one on the 25-man roster as well. And there are already 12 pitchers on the roster, so it’s not going to be a position player.

My hope is that Gallagher gets sent down, with Meyer moving into the rotation. But that’s a long shot.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 5, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

DiNardo out

Gallagher to the pen, Meyer and Geo start

by HRH on Aug 5, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we just use his alternate nickname

Metro

Possibly for away games, or when he has a poor outing, but lasts a ton of innings on a small tank of gas.

The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.

by gdub171 on Aug 5, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gallagher has been good up until his last start

Why send him down because of one game?

by thejd44 on Aug 5, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

why even move him to the pen

reason, its not like the a’s are doing anything this year
lets see if the kid has a set of ball to pitch in the majors
i mean, we gave away harden for him, which means billy thought he had a starter in the kid

by jhroac02 on Aug 5, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

Even before yesterday’s disaster, he had walked 15 batters in 22 1/3 IP (which is more than 6 BB/9IP) since coming to the Oakland. After yesterday, it’s now 6.75 BB/9 IP.

He has swing-and-miss stuff, but control problems that severe usually need to be fixed in the minors or in the bullpen.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 5, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't have these issues in Chicago

Well, not as many anyways – 22 in 58.7 innings

by mikev on Aug 5, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

His walk rate has been up-and-down his whole career – it was bad in AA, good in AAA, and horrible in his first call-up for the Cubs last year.

I guess an optimist would say that proves he can straighten things out, and a pessimist would say it shows that for whatever reason he just doesn’t have enough of a handle on his mechanics to put the ball where he wants to with any kind of consistency. And you can tell which camp I’m in right now. Pitchers who don’t throw strikes tend to annoy me.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 5, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mayhap we should do the same with Barton, also 22

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I *am* optimistic about Barton

It’s Hannahan, Crosby, and Brown that I have zero faith in as productive big leaguers.

by mikev on Aug 5, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow - go out on a limb!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

liamb

This is the highest-known density of gorillas that's ever been found. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 5, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's certainly reason for long-term optimism

Like I said, he has swing-and-miss stuff, and that alone gives him higher upside than pitchers like Smith, Eveland, or Blanton. I’m just skeptical that he’s going to be able to put it all together any time soon. That’s the other side of being only 22.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 5, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 5, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody explain the service time issue to me

Because, frankly, it’s stupid to call him up now if it means he’s arby eligible a year sooner.

by mikev on Aug 5, 2008 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Probably won't mean that

Since there’s only about 60 days left in the season, he’ll only accumulate 60 days this year. That’s too few to be a Super 2 in a couple years. The A’s should still have 3 pre-arby years (09, 10, 11).

by thejd44 on Aug 5, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gio Pitching Wednesday

Ken Korach said in his conversation with Marti Lurie that Gio is starting Wednesday’s name. Duke has been pushed back to start on Thursday. (Braden is scheduled to start Friday in Detroit; beyond that wasn’t known.)

by McMillinBr on Aug 5, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

That makes sense - Gio pitched Friday

so that’s his regular turn. Duke could use the extra day more.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yahoo! fantasy has him starting on Wednesday as well

But why push Duke back instead of giving Gio a day to get acquainted?

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by Rebuilding Season on Aug 5, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to hate on our lovely admins (and Nico)

But when you guys move a post to the main column, could you also delete the original one?

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 5, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not the one who pulled it to the main page,

but I’m not sure if what you’re asking is possible. It may be (and again, I’m not sure) that if you delete the fanpost, it’s gone gone and gone from everywhere. Or not.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems like a SBN bug then

It should be moving rather than duplicating the FanPost

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 5, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is

they just told a funny story during the game (for those who don’t have radio) that his passport was in Florida so a friend of his flew with the passport to Chicago where he met up with Gio on his layover to give him his passport. Nice friend! Hope they’re sliding him some $ .

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Aug 5, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about a free trip to Canada to watch a baseball team play against his buddy?

In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!

by DMOAS on Aug 5, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a burrito

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can he start at SS?

no, i’m not kidding.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 5, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michael + young = shortstop?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 5, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's with Texas. We have Michael Richard.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Note to self: learn to use "reply" button

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 5, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

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