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Open Game Thread: Game 111 - A's at Toronto

Oakland Athletics at Toronto Blue Jays, Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT


The A's are sinking faster than the Titanic and yet, I have to imagine that a certain large individual who wields a rebar will be quite jacked up for tonight's game.  I'll get to that in a second.

The A's schedule doesn't get any easier as they go from facing Dice-K yesterday to facing Roy Halladay today.  The pitching matchup is as follows:


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Roy Halladay 12-8 23 22 7 2 0 0 167.1 146 59 53 12 28 141 2.85 1.04


vs.


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Sean Gallagher 1-0 4 4 0 0 0 0 22.1 23 12 8 2 15 23 3.22 1.70


It doesn't seem to favor the A's snapping out of their funk.  The A's offense against any good pitching right now appears overmatched.  But that's going to likely be the case for the rest of the year.

The lineups look like this:



You think Frank Thomas might be a little amped to go back and face the team that essentially told him that he wasn't an everyday player any more?  I 'm guessing he probably will be.  Whether that means he'll have great success or not, I don't know, but you have to think that it's bad form to make someone nicknamed "Big Hurt" angry.  That's all I'm saying.

LET'S GO A'S!!!!!!

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wow -- Toronto's lineup is even worse than ours

Greed and fear cause over-reactions in both directions. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 4, 2008 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that even possible?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Sweeney :(

Over/Under on K’s for Roy tonight is set a 10! I got the over.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 4, 2008 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crosby

As I just wrote at the end of the last thread – what is up with this daily dose of Crosby. He sucks in every capacity . When do we get to see Petit????

by sacto on Aug 4, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But he's apparently better than the alternative. And he's there next year too.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind it.

I mean, that’s like 8 times more money than I make now, first class travel, and I’d never have to work another day in my life.

I could deal with it.

by mikev on Aug 4, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crosby as an Iron Man makes me wonder what kind of world I've woken up in.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hee hee.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doc Halladay....egads

This is all this team needs is to face a pitcher like Halladay. I would be lying big time if I felt good about the A’s chances tonight.

by KCa's on Aug 4, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Swooney hurt?

Why isn’t he in the lineup?

by thejd44 on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing Emil Brown has experience facing Halladay

I haven’t checked though.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and with Emil starting..

you leave CarGon in center.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably giving him a break

scuffling the last few games….perhaps?

by arch on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

over/under...

on team Ks this game? a’s make opposing pitchers like strikeout machines…even a non-K pitcher like garland.

by arch on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why is sweeney not playing? you would think you would want one

of your best hitters in the lineup against Halladay.

by Erin6 on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's sad that Sweeney is really one of our best hitters.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind....as long as they win.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The A;s lineup is the same as the one that began the season, plus Thomas

They are definitely better than they are playing now. But the morale is all time low.

by javaball on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What do you suggest? A hooker?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even fan morale

is at an all-time low…

by arch on Aug 4, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hookers for everyone?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

slump busting is a tried and true method...

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking....

finally, a give away I could get behind.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inflatable Bobbleheads?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm

The trading deadline is over, I’m starting to perk up a little.

by paradox on Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the A's lack of offensive (home run) power...

I was stunned to discover today that there’s several teams with less home runs this year than the A’s – Blue Jays included.

The Giants have the least home runs in baseball as a team – 19 less than the A’s! They’ve only hit 61 homers this year and they don’t have a guy in double figures yet. That’s pretty awful.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cust for Lincecum?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's almost as is someone

magically removed all the homeruns or something…how odd…

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where's me lucky charms?

Errr….lucky syringe.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Magowan?

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm feeling a win today.

I’m in a good mood :D

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by Kimberly on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay Kimberly's optimism!

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jays thank you.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO WAY THE GIANTS TRADE LINCECUM FOR CUST!!!

The Giants may want Emil Brown for Lincecum straight up, though.

by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True, Brown has more HR's than Lincecum.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wells and Rolen are out. That would be like if the A's were without.......um.....

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

KK and Vince!

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Five Hannahans!

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay,

five Hannahans, three Bobby Crosbys and a slump-ridden Emil Brown.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lynn Stallworth?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently,

he really believes that bit about BA being a useless stat.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately,

Croz also doesn’t believe in RBI, OBP, SLG…

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He basically doesn't believe in

the concept of “baseball.”

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really wish he would stay off AN....

and baseball diamonds too.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batting in the .240's with 4HR this year?

I’m happy he got that batting cage installed at his undeserving mansion

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be he only hits .260 in his batting cage

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be happy if the batting cage goes Maximum Overdrive on Crosby

Maybe then Petit could get one start.

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 4, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that made me laugh hard

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone thought i was crazy earlier in the year

When i said i would settle for 18 homers each from Ellis and Crosby but how great would that be at this point

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 4, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But fast

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 18 strikeout perfect game?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Going to be?

It was ugly when they set foot in the ballpark

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predict how many hits the A's get

I will say 4 hits. 3 of them singles ans 1 walk

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is a walk as good as a hit?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes to the walk

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chavez out for year leads to 60-day DL, which...

turns into 40-man roster spot for GIO…maybe he starts on Thursday

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh wow

good point. Could def. happen.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marco!

Scutaro!

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Graham

Godfrey!

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 4, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kristian

Bell!

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Aug 4, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swooney's pinky is bothering him.

That’s why he’s not in the lineup.

32 and counting...

by ZigFan31 on Aug 4, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crosby's entire body is annoying me....

so why’s he in the lineup?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do we hate Crosby before he's even done anything?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Habit.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does he ever do anything?

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Aug 4, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I bet Bowen gets a key pinch hitting opportunity to break up the perfect game before Sweeney does.

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Aug 4, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least they're in the road grays

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Love those uni's.

In other news, the A’s probably have no less chance of winning against a stud like Halladay then any other pitcher out there.

What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.

by KMoAsFan on Aug 4, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallagher is throwing too much junk

His fastball is looking nasty…try that a little more and trust the fielders!

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree - for a guy with a so-so curve, he's throwing it too much

Establish the fastball, and get it down in the zone.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to comeback there Sean.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cust

He got a good jump on that. That was a good play.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay Jack and Sean!

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How Jack Cust has never won a gold glove is beyond me

Is it because he’s a terrible hitter?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

{silence}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shovel anyone?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's are going to win today.

.....................Yup.

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by Kimberly on Aug 4, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody think that Frank is kinda in a "tryout" for '09??

If he hits horribly, we probably need to go into ‘09 with Cust as our DH, if he hits well these last two months and looks fully recovered from injury, he’s re-signed to DH and Cust is in left?

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the FT experiment is over

after this season. If we sign him, he’s guaranteed to spend time on the DL.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's guaranteed to spend time on the DL too

They all are.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sad, but true.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As part of being on the Big League Club

They sould really look into getting that part out of the contracts these guys sign

by A'sfaninNC on Aug 4, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rather have hurt over Cust

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like cust but am kind of sick of him getting so many at bats.

cant we just get real hitters and play him off the bench as a solid roleplayer?

ahhh, who am i kidding, he’s gonna bat clean-up til 2015.

by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wolff said:

“I don’t know. I honestly don’t,” Wolff said. “But say it doesn’t. We’re still under a lot of pressure to get a park that is our own. That isn’t going to go away. So my hope is that we’ll find a way to make it happen. It has not been as easy as I thought it would be.”

by JustinKase on Aug 4, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you might want to check out the fanposts.....

it’s been covered extensively.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said that about Frank Dhing in '09?

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he may have.

Both are hard to get off the ground.

by JustinKase on Aug 4, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really think there may be a chance

FT returns next season?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so. He's our best hitter.

If he can play 50 games, that’s better than zero. Just pay him accordingly.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Cust was our best hitter....

oh wait.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will be if they don't bring back Frank.

Hence the urgency.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they think they have a chance at the playoffs next year,

I think it makes sense. Between LF-DH, two guys need to start, and Cust-Thomas is better than Cust-Murton.

But if they don’t think they’ll make the playoffs, you might as well give Patterson/Murton/Buck & Friends another opening to see if they can stick, if ‘09 is being written off as developmental from the get-go. I personally would rather enter into the year with a chance at a few legitimate hitters on paper at least…and I consider Frank to be that.

Cunningham could go nuts next year in ST, but I still think he’ll need some AAA time.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good reasoning.

I guess we’ll know sometime in December. I don’t think the A’s have the rights to the option year on FT. So if they sign him they’ll have to cut a deal.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny Urban Q & A:

Why is Jack Cust in the Majors and hitting in a run-producing position in the batting order with an average that is around .200 with runners in scoring position and even worse in that situation with two outs? With Frank Thomas back, it would make more sense to put a more agile and experienced player in the outfield - one who drives in runs in the clutch like Emil Brown.
-Mark P. Concord, Calif.

That question, or at least a version of it, has been asked of Bob Geren several times this year. The typical answer, or at least a version of it, goes like this: “We have a lot of faith in Jack,” and it’s typically followed with something about on-base percentage.

Wish I could give you something better than that, but that’s all I have to work with.

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If it's high OBP why not bat him 2nd?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That "fan" question sounds like one that the Fire Joe Morgan guys call "JoeBait"

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But I think he has a point about the "hitting in a run-producing position" part

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That RISP area of his game is very sad

As it is for several others. They coincidently are the same hitters who take pitches and try and walk instead of being aggressive.

That being the case, why the hell do as Waddell sugests below and bat him second. Just not in the 3 or 4 hole thanks no matter how bad the current hitters are around him

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That should be do as Waddell suggests and his post is above

not below

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no.

Scutaro.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes I'm concerned about that too.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suzuki, Ellis, and Gallagher

have a meeting on the mound.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must have thought McDonald was A-Rod or something

walking him

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pathetic

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's going to be fine

He’s just learning like a few others in the minors should be up here doing

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should've made my screen name

Gallagher’s high pitch counts. The guy really needs to develop whichever is going to be his putaway pitch, because he doesn’t have one. They have more fouls than a Donaghy-officiated NBA game.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's not pitching that badly.

Running up his count, but he’s fooling the hitters. His curve seems better.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Gallagher's delivery, but maybe it's because

it reminds me of Jim Corsi. Seems kind of herky-jerky and shotput-y. Maybe the A’s can help him refine it and gain command.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I forgot

GAME OVER.
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by mikev on Aug 4, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you miss all of July

while in a coma? ;)

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

July is over

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that good or bad?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bleed Jim Corsi

I have a Jim Corsi shrine in my bedroom.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's Go Oakland!

Stomper is a badass!

by lynnzgal on Aug 4, 2008 3:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Halladay seems a little off today command-wise

Perhaps we can put up two? Maybe Ziegler can pitch innings 3-9.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Halliday

probably almost had a seizure when BC didn’t swing low and away.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

McDonald seems like a heckuva fielder. Noticeable after watching Crosby.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He has created quite a few web gems on BBTN

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So close.....yet so far...

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did he need directions?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep turning left....you can't miss it

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must have more faith

in the A’s than I do.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK listen to the lady with the calming voice

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No can do....

she keeps telling me to kill. At least one of the voices does…

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Sometimes there's a leg in the way, and you can't seem to find it"

~ Eric Byrnes

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You realize that since Tye Waller moved to 3B coach,

the A’s have literally not had a runner round third to try to score? 3 HRs, that’s it.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like how I managed a 0.00 GAA in high school soccer.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point, pam5981!

Oh, sorry.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL: Red Sox want to sign Borowski

They must want to be eliminated.

When you look up the definition of GASCAN in the dictionary, it has his picture.

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did they say why?

Their pitching is good.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering the same thing....

grounds crew maybe?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just noticed it on the ESPN front page but you need insider

I don’t subscirbe to that as I think it’s a waste of money, especially when someone who has it will usually post it if it’s important to their team.

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think we will break it?

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somewhere in the 20s

I remember a few seasons back when the Royals had lost like 22 games or something, nearing the record….then they snapped the streak against us.

Procrastinators unite....tomorrow

by muffinpryde on Aug 4, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

21 games

by the O’s in ‘88 i think

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Aug 4, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

doh! I was wrong

23 games, Phillies

Since 1900, the team with the longest losing streak in baseball was the Philadelphia Phillies, who lost 23 consecutive games from July 26 to August 20 in 1961.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Aug 4, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man that team was terrible.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallagher....

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to be positive....

but he’s going to go all Bobby Crosby on me.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly Beane insisted upon Gallagher. Rejected the deal for weeks (not Weeks)

without him

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, but he's 22 and in the majors already. He's way ahead of

the curve. He clearly has a great arm, he just has to iron out the kinks in his game. Sadly for him he’s having to do that in the Majors – and he’s having a shitty game today.

by OldhamA on Aug 4, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have no idea...

how badly I want to believe this.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well this is his worst game by far.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I think….

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beane and his scouts are fantastic judges of pitchers.

Hitters, not so much. He’s ridiculously young, he’ll come good.

by OldhamA on Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we shouldn't expect much from Gio...or Trevor...or Brett...or

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree - I think Gallagher's problems

are almost purely mechanical – that last pitch, which he didn’t throw so forcedly over the top, was great. He’s young, doesn’t quite know what to do with adversity, and needs work on his delivery. I think he’ll be fine.

That being said, this rivals Eveland’s start at Boston as the worst of the entire season.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 Runs on HBP.

Nice.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A's are on pace to win about 8 games in the second half

Good going, keep it up boys

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by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is getting ugly early

at least my fingernails are growing by quite nicely

by asfaninpismobeach on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Your 2008 Triple A's

100%...eh, I don’t even want to.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It is disgusting....

isn’t it?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im with you

doesnt even bother me anymore. Numbness

by asfaninpismobeach on Aug 4, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree the GM gave up on the team by trading guys for nothing to help the team in 2008

I remember reading on how this trade (Harden for Gallagher and others) was going to make us better this season

by Yellowhorse on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say Beane saw we weren't going to catch the Angels, so he

traded what pieces of value he could. Nobody could have forseen the entire collectively going into the tank though.

by OldhamA on Aug 4, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The players should wear masks to hide their faces

because they should be really embarrassed.

I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production

by Trainman on Aug 4, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want him to wear a mask?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well it is a different way of giving away runs

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude.

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by Kimberly on Aug 4, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Right that's me done. The Jays have done nothing yet we've gifted them 3 runs.

I’ll catch up on the sleep I missed watching the HoF game last night instead.

by OldhamA on Aug 4, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Four

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meyer is going to get his shot.

Wonder what he’ll do with it?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to hear them

go all Bob Uke on this team. That would be fun at least.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's gonna sleep with Hannahan's wife?

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we have to solicit volunteers?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It has to be a young reliever

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, after a few pints

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kuiper has this funny habit..

when he doesn’t trust his own baseball knowledge enough, and he wants to test something out with Fosse, he goes,

“You almost get the feeling that…”

as in…

“You almost get the feeling that, if Gallagher can’t get this next hitter, it may be his last hitter.”

(Please agree with me Ray!)

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You almost get the feeling

that Gallagher may be joining Dana Eveland soon.

"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.

by andeux on Aug 4, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would probably be a good idea

He doesn’t have big league command. The problem is that Gio Gonzalez doesn’t either.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk!

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is he still kickin around? With the way the team is batting I don't see

why you wouldn’t just want an innings eater or two in the pitching rotation. There’s no point wasting good arms with no run support.

by OldhamA on Aug 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Innings eater?

Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM

probably my new sig.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallagher=Blanton

Pick an inning…any inning…
turn it over, it’s a five-spot….or something similar

Team’s getting unwatchable.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Aug 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on! We're tied for the 11th best record in the AL.

That’s gotta be like the 9th best in the NL. At worst.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

That’s the equivalent of a playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. And the Celtics won the title!

Unless you meant some other sport.

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'd win the NL West

with our current roster.

We can’t prove it, and that’s a controversial statement, and I’m an NL hater, but I’m gonna stand by it. The NL West is really terrible.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'd win the NL West

with our current roster.

We can’t prove it, and that’s a controversial statement, and I’m an NL hater, but I’m gonna stand by it. The NL West is really terrible.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We did lose that series to the Giants after the Ad

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Adv did it all!

swagger? poof!
pitching? psssssssssst …pop
hitting? pffffffffft!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Aug 4, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh, see, it's more controversial

because i posted it twice.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I'd want to expose any prospects

To this kind of sorrow…talk about starting them off on the wrong foot.

by GusanoQuemador on Aug 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're a team of constant sorrow

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harden trade is a mess

How did the A’ s trade one of the five best pitchers on the planet for a borderline 5th starter from the NL?

Harden, Sabbthia and Haren are just flying in the NL. It is no shock that an unpolished guy like Gallagher is overwhelmed in the AL.

by DKNJ on Aug 4, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I still don't get this logic

Harden was only one injury away from having literally zero trade value. To get this package of players for him was a pretty nice haul. We’re judging them all WAY too early. Gallagher’s in his fifth start, Murton only got 30 AB, Patterson only got 10 AB…let’s let them get a little more time under their belts before we judge the trade as a success or failure.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was a first guess by most of AN

It didn’t pass the eye test and is now looking very shaky. You just can’t get a Harden on the open market. He can provide a ton of value at only 100 innings a year.

by DKNJ on Aug 4, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hang onto your hats: We might see a position player pitch today

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cust!

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday must be messed up

I’m at work so not watxching or listening to game…but the A’s can’t really have let 3 runs score this inning on 2 HBPs and a wild pitch, can they? Someone please tell me it was a grand salami…far more palatable.

They want to steal the land papers which is why they have tried to break in. But they had to give up after being bitten by Chhotu.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sad......isn't it?

I would much prefer to be at work. I think I’m going to go.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay Jack!

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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least you didn't get thrown out at second, Jack

I still can’t believe I actually saw that play in Oakland, Jack drove the wall and got his fat ass out at second, unbelievable.

by paradox on Aug 4, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy to get nailed twice in a month

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

But not with a 120 mph drive to the body, first inning, second inning, uh, maybe you better sit down, son.

by paradox on Aug 4, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't seem female to me

I’m just wired that way, is all.

by paradox on Aug 4, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please let it go

Y’all know what I meant.

by paradox on Aug 4, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Letting it go"

is absolutely not an option at this point. AN turns its lonely eyes toward you stud.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For those feeling gloom and doomy about Gallagher

remember Dan Haren in the same ballpark a couple years ago: 8 ER in the first 2 IP. Of course he got the win that day. Li-ii-lll-lly!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"It's not the score that you put on the board

its the frame of mind that you put the ball club into.”

by javaball on Aug 4, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm so busy reading the QsOTM

that I didn’t even notice we’re suddenly losing by a lot. And because we’re all so gosh-darn funny, I don’t even care that this game has suddenly imploded. Isn’t life great?

[gets another drink]

[I tried to post this like ten minutes ago, but my computer sucks. FIRE INTERNET NOW!]

by whiteshoes40 on Aug 4, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I STILL laugh at the QOTM

even though I’ve read them multiple times.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Aug 4, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are ridiculously funny this month.

And I haven’t even read the whole thing yet.

by pam5981 on Aug 4, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

terrible call

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Way to come in and throw strikes, Meyer.

Atta boy.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's actually looked very solid thus far

Impressed so far. Let’s see how he does from here on.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

heres an idea.

Have someone teach us words/phrases/whatever in another language. Then we can complain in multiple languages and feel like we learn something from these game threads since… we’re probably never going to win another baseball game again.

by buddahead9 on Aug 4, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Toronto guy called Beane the "guru of Moneyball"

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's all you hear about on MLB.tv, having the opposing announcers

pretty much every game. You get tired of it quickly.

by OldhamA on Aug 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Christ.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meyer is pitching?

Wow, it must got ugly.

by butler19 on Aug 4, 2008 4:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Judging the Harden Trade

The Harden trade totally sucked, in my opinion. Gaudin for Gallagher would have been about right – though I prefer Gaudin. But I recognize it’s too early too judge fairly, right? So when exactly will Harden have pitched enough good games and Gallagher pitched enough bad games that we can safely say, “Wow, that Harden trade really sucked.” The rest of this year? All of next year? Never?

by solotar on Aug 4, 2008 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It can suck now.

Maybe later it won’t. It’s a bit much to take right now though.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am so with you.

I expected Gallagher would be an amazing talent for Harden and Gaudin, but not so far.

by butler19 on Aug 4, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't really have anything to do with how Harden does, though

It’s 100% tied to how our guys do. Harden’s value to us was only as trade bait, since we weren’t going anywhere, and he only had value as a trading chip if he didn’t get hurt. He’d played out the string long enough to build up the most value he was going to have, and we dealt him for the most we could get. If in two years Gallagher hasn’t panned out, and Murton and Patterson are gone, and all we have left is Donaldson, then yeah maybe it wasn’t that great. What if Donaldson ends up being an All-Star catcher, though? Would it be a good deal then? Of course. We can’t evaluate a deal where we receive a 22-year old pitcher, a catcher in high-A, and two outfielders being blocked by other guys until we give all the players a chance to prove themselves. And a chance means a heck of a lot more than five starts. If Gio came up and had five crappy starts everyone wouldn’t start calling him a bust; I don’t see why Gallagher’s any different.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not for a REALLY long time

And here’s how you know that:

It’s too early, in my opinion to judge the HUDSON trade! And here’s why:

Dan Meyer still has six years of contractual control left. If he has a 4.00 ERA over the course of the next six years, and remains in the rotation, and contributes significantly to several contending A’s teams, the Hudson trade suddenly doesn’t look that bad.

When you trade for a prospect, you sometimes can’t judge whether you “won” or did well in that deal for five years.

"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By that I mean,

You gotta wait until Gallagher has reached arby, or reached FA, and see what he becomes to decide how we did on this deal.

The same will be true of Dan Meyer. Those years of him being hurt and/or in the minor leagues doesn’t mean that we “lost”. They just delay the final analysis of whether or not we reaped a decent return on the trade. I personally don’t think you can judge that until Dan Meyer ultimately fails or succeeds as a big league pitcher. We’re about to find out.

"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can't judge the Hudson deal till 2014?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

If Dan Meyer pitched 4.00 ERA ball, 180 innings a year for the next six years, and contributes to a few playoff teams…

Doesn’t that change everyone’s opinion of the deal???

"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You prefer Gaudin to Gallagher?

I forgot how young Gaudin is.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice way to battle it out Meyer.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 4:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the last week has been revenge the a's tour.

the royals and sawx swept us after we broomed them both up earlier in the season. sadly, we swept the jays and tigers too and i wouldnt be shocked if they take the next six and a half from us.

by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beane needs to revert to

02’ form and have Menechino Menechino, Tam, Pena, Jeremy Giambi kinda shakeup (looks at Hannahan, Barton, DFA, Crosby….. This AAAA lineup is just unbearable….

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

by ST on Aug 4, 2008 4:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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