Open Game Thread: Game 111 - A's at Toronto
by Tyler Bleszinski on Aug 4, 2008 2:45 PM PDT
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PrintOakland Athletics at Toronto Blue Jays, Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
The A's are sinking faster than the Titanic and yet, I have to imagine that a certain large individual who wields a rebar will be quite jacked up for tonight's game. I'll get to that in a second.
The A's schedule doesn't get any easier as they go from facing Dice-K yesterday to facing Roy Halladay today. The pitching matchup is as follows:
vs.
It doesn't seem to favor the A's snapping out of their funk. The A's offense against any good pitching right now appears overmatched. But that's going to likely be the case for the rest of the year.
The lineups look like this:
You think Frank Thomas might be a little amped to go back and face the team that essentially told him that he wasn't an everyday player any more? I 'm guessing he probably will be. Whether that means he'll have great success or not, I don't know, but you have to think that it's bad form to make someone nicknamed "Big Hurt" angry. That's all I'm saying.
LET'S GO A'S!!!!!!
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wow -- Toronto's lineup is even worse than ours
Greed and fear cause over-reactions in both directions. @('.')@
Is that even possible?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Stay close, drive up Halladay's pitch count, get to the bullpen, push a couple of runs across in the 9th for the win!
Sound good? Who’s with me? Let’s goooooooooooooooooooo!
Hard to believe, the Blue Jays are ahead of the A's in the standings this time of the years.
and Texas. They can\t pitch, but they sure can hit their way to a W
No Sweeney :(
Over/Under on K’s for Roy tonight is set a 10! I got the over.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
Crosby
As I just wrote at the end of the last thread – what is up with this daily dose of Crosby. He sucks in every capacity . When do we get to see Petit????
But he's apparently better than the alternative. And he's there next year too.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd hate to be a backup middle infielder on the A's, what with Ellis and Crosby
being fraking iron men.
I wouldn't mind it.
I mean, that’s like 8 times more money than I make now, first class travel, and I’d never have to work another day in my life.
I could deal with it.
Crosby as an Iron Man makes me wonder what kind of world I've woken up in.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Hee hee.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Doc Halladay....egads
This is all this team needs is to face a pitcher like Halladay. I would be lying big time if I felt good about the A’s chances tonight.
I'm guessing Emil Brown has experience facing Halladay
I haven’t checked though.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
and with Emil starting..
you leave CarGon in center.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
probably giving him a break
scuffling the last few games….perhaps?
over/under...
on team Ks this game? a’s make opposing pitchers like strikeout machines…even a non-K pitcher like garland.
why is sweeney not playing? you would think you would want one
of your best hitters in the lineup against Halladay.
It's sad that Sweeney is really one of our best hitters.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind....as long as they win.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The A;s lineup is the same as the one that began the season, plus Thomas
They are definitely better than they are playing now. But the morale is all time low.
What do you suggest? A hooker?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hookers for everyone?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
slump busting is a tried and true method...
By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking....
finally, a give away I could get behind.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Inflatable Bobbleheads?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
i hope we score 10 runs this series.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:03 PM PDT reply actions
Regarding the A's lack of offensive (home run) power...
I was stunned to discover today that there’s several teams with less home runs this year than the A’s – Blue Jays included.
The Giants have the least home runs in baseball as a team – 19 less than the A’s! They’ve only hit 61 homers this year and they don’t have a guy in double figures yet. That’s pretty awful.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
Cust for Lincecum?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It's almost as is someone
magically removed all the homeruns or something…how odd…
By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's me lucky charms?
Errr….lucky syringe.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Magowan?
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay Kimberly's optimism!
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The Jays thank you.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
NO WAY THE GIANTS TRADE LINCECUM FOR CUST!!!
The Giants may want Emil Brown for Lincecum straight up, though.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions
True, Brown has more HR's than Lincecum.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wells and Rolen are out. That would be like if the A's were without.......um.....
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
KK and Vince!
By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Five Hannahans!
By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay,
five Hannahans, three Bobby Crosbys and a slump-ridden Emil Brown.
By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
RBI machine and defensive stallworth, nonetheless.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
Lynn Stallworth?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
does crosby know he isnt very good?
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Apparently,
he really believes that bit about BA being a useless stat.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
unfortunately,
Croz also doesn’t believe in RBI, OBP, SLG…
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He basically doesn't believe in
the concept of “baseball.”
By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I really wish he would stay off AN....
and baseball diamonds too.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Batting in the .240's with 4HR this year?
I’m happy he got that batting cage installed at his undeserving mansion
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
I'll be he only hits .260 in his batting cage
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'll be happy if the batting cage goes Maximum Overdrive on Crosby
Maybe then Petit could get one start.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
that made me laugh hard
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone thought i was crazy earlier in the year
When i said i would settle for 18 homers each from Ellis and Crosby but how great would that be at this point
But fast
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The 18 strikeout perfect game?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Going to be?
It was ugly when they set foot in the ballpark
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
That's good. Shows they're more patient than against Matsuzaka.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Predict how many hits the A's get
I will say 4 hits. 3 of them singles ans 1 walk
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Is a walk as good as a hit?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
yes to the walk
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Chavez out for year leads to 60-day DL, which...
turns into 40-man roster spot for GIO…maybe he starts on Thursday
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions
oh wow
good point. Could def. happen.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Marco!
Scutaro!
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
Crosby's entire body is annoying me....
so why’s he in the lineup?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Why do we hate Crosby before he's even done anything?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Past experence has causes him to fall out of favor with the rest of the world
but just not the A’s management and coaching staff
Yeah
I bet Bowen gets a key pinch hitting opportunity to break up the perfect game before Sweeney does.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
At least they're in the road grays
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
Love those uni's.
In other news, the A’s probably have no less chance of winning against a stud like Halladay then any other pitcher out there.
What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.
Gallagher is throwing too much junk
His fastball is looking nasty…try that a little more and trust the fielders!
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
Agree - for a guy with a so-so curve, he's throwing it too much
Establish the fastball, and get it down in the zone.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Way to comeback there Sean.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Cust
He got a good jump on that. That was a good play.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
Yay Jack and Sean!
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
How Jack Cust has never won a gold glove is beyond me
Is it because he’s a terrible hitter?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
today has to be better than the last 17, right? there's no way to go up but up, right? right?
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
{silence}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Shovel anyone?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Halladay didn't get a groundout in the 1st,
could be a sign that his sinker command is off. There is hope for the A’s
the jays are paying frank for this bat against themselves
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
Anybody think that Frank is kinda in a "tryout" for '09??
If he hits horribly, we probably need to go into ‘09 with Cust as our DH, if he hits well these last two months and looks fully recovered from injury, he’s re-signed to DH and Cust is in left?
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
I think the FT experiment is over
after this season. If we sign him, he’s guaranteed to spend time on the DL.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
He's guaranteed to spend time on the DL too
They all are.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sad, but true.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
As part of being on the Big League Club
They sould really look into getting that part out of the contracts these guys sign
rather have hurt over Cust
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
i like cust but am kind of sick of him getting so many at bats.
cant we just get real hitters and play him off the bench as a solid roleplayer?
ahhh, who am i kidding, he’s gonna bat clean-up til 2015.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
Wolff said:
“I don’t know. I honestly don’t,” Wolff said. “But say it doesn’t. We’re still under a lot of pressure to get a park that is our own. That isn’t going to go away. So my hope is that we’ll find a way to make it happen. It has not been as easy as I thought it would be.”
you might want to check out the fanposts.....
it’s been covered extensively.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
He said that about Frank Dhing in '09?
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You really think there may be a chance
FT returns next season?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I hope so. He's our best hitter.
If he can play 50 games, that’s better than zero. Just pay him accordingly.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Cust was our best hitter....
oh wait.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
He will be if they don't bring back Frank.
Hence the urgency.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If they think they have a chance at the playoffs next year,
I think it makes sense. Between LF-DH, two guys need to start, and Cust-Thomas is better than Cust-Murton.
But if they don’t think they’ll make the playoffs, you might as well give Patterson/Murton/Buck & Friends another opening to see if they can stick, if ‘09 is being written off as developmental from the get-go. I personally would rather enter into the year with a chance at a few legitimate hitters on paper at least…and I consider Frank to be that.
Cunningham could go nuts next year in ST, but I still think he’ll need some AAA time.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Good reasoning.
I guess we’ll know sometime in December. I don’t think the A’s have the rights to the option year on FT. So if they sign him they’ll have to cut a deal.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
july was the a's worst offensive performance for a month since 1979.
sadly, august may out-do july.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
wait, stairs and cust arent the same person?!?!?!
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
This is the first time I've ever seen them on TV together
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny Urban Q & A:
Why is Jack Cust in the Majors and hitting in a run-producing position in the batting order with an average that is around .200 with runners in scoring position and even worse in that situation with two outs? With Frank Thomas back, it would make more sense to put a more agile and experienced player in the outfield - one who drives in runs in the clutch like Emil Brown.
-Mark P. Concord, Calif.
That question, or at least a version of it, has been asked of Bob Geren several times this year. The typical answer, or at least a version of it, goes like this: “We have a lot of faith in Jack,” and it’s typically followed with something about on-base percentage.
Wish I could give you something better than that, but that’s all I have to work with.
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
If it's high OBP why not bat him 2nd?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That "fan" question sounds like one that the Fire Joe Morgan guys call "JoeBait"
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
But I think he has a point about the "hitting in a run-producing position" part
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That RISP area of his game is very sad
As it is for several others. They coincidently are the same hitters who take pitches and try and walk instead of being aggressive.
That being the case, why the hell do as Waddell sugests below and bat him second. Just not in the 3 or 4 hole thanks no matter how bad the current hitters are around him
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
That should be do as Waddell suggests and his post is above
not below
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Oh no.
Scutaro.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Yes I'm concerned about that too.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Suzuki, Ellis, and Gallagher
have a meeting on the mound.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Must have thought McDonald was A-Rod or something
walking him
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Pathetic
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
He's going to be fine
He’s just learning like a few others in the minors should be up here doing
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
I should've made my screen name
Gallagher’s high pitch counts. The guy really needs to develop whichever is going to be his putaway pitch, because he doesn’t have one. They have more fouls than a Donaghy-officiated NBA game.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions
He's not pitching that badly.
Running up his count, but he’s fooling the hitters. His curve seems better.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I don't like Gallagher's delivery, but maybe it's because
it reminds me of Jim Corsi. Seems kind of herky-jerky and shotput-y. Maybe the A’s can help him refine it and gain command.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Did you miss all of July
while in a coma? ;)
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
July is over
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i watched jim corsi. i followed jim corsi. i rooted for jim corsi.
gallagher is no jim corsi.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions
Is that good or bad?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I bleed Jim Corsi
I have a Jim Corsi shrine in my bedroom.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Halladay seems a little off today command-wise
Perhaps we can put up two? Maybe Ziegler can pitch innings 3-9.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions
Halliday
probably almost had a seizure when BC didn’t swing low and away.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
McDonald seems like a heckuva fielder. Noticeable after watching Crosby.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
He has created quite a few web gems on BBTN
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
its good. corsi wasnt that good.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions
baby steps. we got a runner to third.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM PDT reply actions
So close.....yet so far...
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he need directions?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Keep turning left....you can't miss it
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
You must have more faith
in the A’s than I do.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
OK listen to the lady with the calming voice
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No can do....
she keeps telling me to kill. At least one of the voices does…
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
"Sometimes there's a leg in the way, and you can't seem to find it"
~ Eric Byrnes
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
third? gameday says ellis is still on 2nd... hmm
stupid gameday.
You realize that since Tye Waller moved to 3B coach,
the A’s have literally not had a runner round third to try to score? 3 HRs, that’s it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It's like how I managed a 0.00 GAA in high school soccer.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point, pam5981!
Oh, sorry.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
LOL: Red Sox want to sign Borowski
They must want to be eliminated.
When you look up the definition of GASCAN in the dictionary, it has his picture.
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Did they say why?
Their pitching is good.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering the same thing....
grounds crew maybe?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I just noticed it on the ESPN front page but you need insider
I don’t subscirbe to that as I think it’s a waste of money, especially when someone who has it will usually post it if it’s important to their team.
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Do you think we will break it?
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
Somewhere in the 20s
I remember a few seasons back when the Royals had lost like 22 games or something, nearing the record….then they snapped the streak against us.
Procrastinators unite....tomorrow
doh! I was wrong
Since 1900, the team with the longest losing streak in baseball was the Philadelphia Phillies, who lost 23 consecutive games from July 26 to August 20 in 1961.
There's no crying in baseball!
Man that team was terrible.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Gallagher....
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I was trying to be positive....
but he’s going to go all Bobby Crosby on me.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Supposedly Beane insisted upon Gallagher. Rejected the deal for weeks (not Weeks)
without him
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but he's 22 and in the majors already. He's way ahead of
the curve. He clearly has a great arm, he just has to iron out the kinks in his game. Sadly for him he’s having to do that in the Majors – and he’s having a shitty game today.
You have no idea...
how badly I want to believe this.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Well this is his worst game by far.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Beane and his scouts are fantastic judges of pitchers.
Hitters, not so much. He’s ridiculously young, he’ll come good.
So we shouldn't expect much from Gio...or Trevor...or Brett...or
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree - I think Gallagher's problems
are almost purely mechanical – that last pitch, which he didn’t throw so forcedly over the top, was great. He’s young, doesn’t quite know what to do with adversity, and needs work on his delivery. I think he’ll be fine.
That being said, this rivals Eveland’s start at Boston as the worst of the entire season.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
2 Runs on HBP.
Nice.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
A's are on pace to win about 8 games in the second half
Good going, keep it up boys
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
This is getting ugly early
at least my fingernails are growing by quite nicely
by asfaninpismobeach on Aug 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions
Your 2008 Triple A's
100%...eh, I don’t even want to.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
i honestly dont even get mad anymore. ive accepted this crap.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
It is disgusting....
isn’t it?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Lenny's not available. I predict a Dan Meyer sighting.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
True Harden rarely pitched, but he never pitched like this
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Im with you
doesnt even bother me anymore. Numbness
by asfaninpismobeach on Aug 4, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree the GM gave up on the team by trading guys for nothing to help the team in 2008
I remember reading on how this trade (Harden for Gallagher and others) was going to make us better this season
I'd say Beane saw we weren't going to catch the Angels, so he
traded what pieces of value he could. Nobody could have forseen the entire collectively going into the tank though.
Beane admitted the trade hurt the A's for now
“We’ve obviously taken a step back in the present,” Beane conceded… http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080708&content_id=3092594&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
The players should wear masks to hide their faces
because they should be really embarrassed.
I hate unproductive outs and the A's are producing them at record production
You want him to wear a mask?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it is a different way of giving away runs
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Right that's me done. The Jays have done nothing yet we've gifted them 3 runs.
I’ll catch up on the sleep I missed watching the HoF game last night instead.
Four
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Meyer is going to get his shot.
Wonder what he’ll do with it?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
kk and vince sound pretty disgusted in the booth, too.
luckily, i stopped listening.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 PM PDT reply actions
I'd love to hear them
go all Bob Uke on this team. That would be fun at least.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Who's gonna sleep with Hannahan's wife?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Do we have to solicit volunteers?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
It has to be a young reliever
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, after a few pints
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
On a scale from 1-10, she is a 24
In by 2 out by 4.
by theblackpearl on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuiper has this funny habit..
when he doesn’t trust his own baseball knowledge enough, and he wants to test something out with Fosse, he goes,
“You almost get the feeling that…”
as in…
“You almost get the feeling that, if Gallagher can’t get this next hitter, it may be his last hitter.”
(Please agree with me Ray!)"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
You almost get the feeling
that Gallagher may be joining Dana Eveland soon.
"May a nit suck Cajun geese?" wonders Red. No, we see gnu Jack Cust in a yam.
That would probably be a good idea
He doesn’t have big league command. The problem is that Gio Gonzalez doesn’t either.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kirk!
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he still kickin around? With the way the team is batting I don't see
why you wouldn’t just want an innings eater or two in the pitching rotation. There’s no point wasting good arms with no run support.
Innings eater?
Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
QOTM
probably my new sig.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Gallagher=Blanton
Pick an inning…any inning…
turn it over, it’s a five-spot….or something similar
Team’s getting unwatchable.
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Aug 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
crazy thing is that whenever i think it cant get lower for this squad, it gets lower.
the last three weeks have been a nightmare.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Come on! We're tied for the 11th best record in the AL.
That’s gotta be like the 9th best in the NL. At worst.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
That’s the equivalent of a playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Right. And the Celtics won the title!
Unless you meant some other sport.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
We'd win the NL West
with our current roster.
We can’t prove it, and that’s a controversial statement, and I’m an NL hater, but I’m gonna stand by it. The NL West is really terrible.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
We'd win the NL West
with our current roster.
We can’t prove it, and that’s a controversial statement, and I’m an NL hater, but I’m gonna stand by it. The NL West is really terrible.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
We did lose that series to the Giants after the Ad
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The Adv did it all!
swagger? poof!
pitching? psssssssssst …pop
hitting? pffffffffft!
"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer
by One won lost won on Aug 4, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
ooh, see, it's more controversial
because i posted it twice.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'd want to expose any prospects
To this kind of sorrow…talk about starting them off on the wrong foot.
by GusanoQuemador on Aug 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
We're a team of constant sorrow
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Harden trade is a mess
How did the A’ s trade one of the five best pitchers on the planet for a borderline 5th starter from the NL?
Harden, Sabbthia and Haren are just flying in the NL. It is no shock that an unpolished guy like Gallagher is overwhelmed in the AL.
How is that possible?
Gallagher’s already done more than Meyer.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you ever been beaten up at a Sharks game?
by theblackpearl on Aug 4, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
But Meyer did pitch. And the results weren't pretty.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I still don't get this logic
Harden was only one injury away from having literally zero trade value. To get this package of players for him was a pretty nice haul. We’re judging them all WAY too early. Gallagher’s in his fifth start, Murton only got 30 AB, Patterson only got 10 AB…let’s let them get a little more time under their belts before we judge the trade as a success or failure.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This was a first guess by most of AN
It didn’t pass the eye test and is now looking very shaky. You just can’t get a Harden on the open market. He can provide a ton of value at only 100 innings a year.
Hang onto your hats: We might see a position player pitch today
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Cust!
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Gameday must be messed up
I’m at work so not watxching or listening to game…but the A’s can’t really have let 3 runs score this inning on 2 HBPs and a wild pitch, can they? Someone please tell me it was a grand salami…far more palatable.
They want to steal the land papers which is why they have tried to break in. But they had to give up after being bitten by Chhotu.
Sad......isn't it?
I would much prefer to be at work. I think I’m going to go.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Yay Jack!
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
At least you didn't get thrown out at second, Jack
I still can’t believe I actually saw that play in Oakland, Jack drove the wall and got his fat ass out at second, unbelievable.
I'd be happy to get nailed twice in a month
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
me too
But not with a 120 mph drive to the body, first inning, second inning, uh, maybe you better sit down, son.
"Letting it go"
is absolutely not an option at this point. AN turns its lonely eyes toward you stud.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
For those feeling gloom and doomy about Gallagher
remember Dan Haren in the same ballpark a couple years ago: 8 ER in the first 2 IP. Of course he got the win that day. Li-ii-lll-lly!!!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
"It's not the score that you put on the board
its the frame of mind that you put the ball club into.”
I'm so busy reading the QsOTM
that I didn’t even notice we’re suddenly losing by a lot. And because we’re all so gosh-darn funny, I don’t even care that this game has suddenly imploded. Isn’t life great?
[gets another drink]
[I tried to post this like ten minutes ago, but my computer sucks. FIRE INTERNET NOW!]
I STILL laugh at the QOTM
even though I’ve read them multiple times.
Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows
Way to come in and throw strikes, Meyer.
Atta boy.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
He's actually looked very solid thus far
Impressed so far. Let’s see how he does from here on.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
heres an idea.
Have someone teach us words/phrases/whatever in another language. Then we can complain in multiple languages and feel like we learn something from these game threads since… we’re probably never going to win another baseball game again.
The Toronto guy called Beane the "guru of Moneyball"
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
It's all you hear about on MLB.tv, having the opposing announcers
pretty much every game. You get tired of it quickly.
Christ.
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This year we swept Boston in Oak too
That was a long, long time ago.
Judging the Harden Trade
The Harden trade totally sucked, in my opinion. Gaudin for Gallagher would have been about right – though I prefer Gaudin. But I recognize it’s too early too judge fairly, right? So when exactly will Harden have pitched enough good games and Gallagher pitched enough bad games that we can safely say, “Wow, that Harden trade really sucked.” The rest of this year? All of next year? Never?
It can suck now.
Maybe later it won’t. It’s a bit much to take right now though.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
yep, got that feeling
Might as well get all the bad karma out this year
by asfansince1989 on Aug 4, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for Harden and the Cubs
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I am so with you.
I expected Gallagher would be an amazing talent for Harden and Gaudin, but not so far.
It doesn't really have anything to do with how Harden does, though
It’s 100% tied to how our guys do. Harden’s value to us was only as trade bait, since we weren’t going anywhere, and he only had value as a trading chip if he didn’t get hurt. He’d played out the string long enough to build up the most value he was going to have, and we dealt him for the most we could get. If in two years Gallagher hasn’t panned out, and Murton and Patterson are gone, and all we have left is Donaldson, then yeah maybe it wasn’t that great. What if Donaldson ends up being an All-Star catcher, though? Would it be a good deal then? Of course. We can’t evaluate a deal where we receive a 22-year old pitcher, a catcher in high-A, and two outfielders being blocked by other guys until we give all the players a chance to prove themselves. And a chance means a heck of a lot more than five starts. If Gio came up and had five crappy starts everyone wouldn’t start calling him a bust; I don’t see why Gallagher’s any different.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not for a REALLY long time
And here’s how you know that:
It’s too early, in my opinion to judge the HUDSON trade! And here’s why:
Dan Meyer still has six years of contractual control left. If he has a 4.00 ERA over the course of the next six years, and remains in the rotation, and contributes significantly to several contending A’s teams, the Hudson trade suddenly doesn’t look that bad.
When you trade for a prospect, you sometimes can’t judge whether you “won” or did well in that deal for five years.
"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
By that I mean,
You gotta wait until Gallagher has reached arby, or reached FA, and see what he becomes to decide how we did on this deal.
The same will be true of Dan Meyer. Those years of him being hurt and/or in the minor leagues doesn’t mean that we “lost”. They just delay the final analysis of whether or not we reaped a decent return on the trade. I personally don’t think you can judge that until Dan Meyer ultimately fails or succeeds as a big league pitcher. We’re about to find out.
"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
We can't judge the Hudson deal till 2014?
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
If Dan Meyer pitched 4.00 ERA ball, 180 innings a year for the next six years, and contributes to a few playoff teams…
Doesn’t that change everyone’s opinion of the deal???
"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You prefer Gaudin to Gallagher?
I forgot how young Gaudin is.
[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice way to battle it out Meyer.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
yeah, the last week has been revenge the a's tour.
the royals and sawx swept us after we broomed them both up earlier in the season. sadly, we swept the jays and tigers too and i wouldnt be shocked if they take the next six and a half from us.
by put em in a body bag johnny on Aug 4, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions
Beane needs to revert to
02’ form and have Menechino Menechino, Tam, Pena, Jeremy Giambi kinda shakeup (looks at Hannahan, Barton, DFA, Crosby….. This AAAA lineup is just unbearable….
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
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