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DLD 8/4/08 Chavez to have season ending surgery

I was just going to post the Chavy news, but since we don't have a DLD, HERE YA GO.

 

OAKLAND — The A's announced today that six-time Gold Glove-winning third baseman Eric Chavez will undergo season-ending surgery on his right shoulder next week. Chavez had been placed on the 15-day disabled list on July 2 with right shoulder inflammation. His shoulder did not respond to light rehab workouts.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_10094600

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I was just gonna post this.

But I just hope Chavy can get the surgery and come back strong and healthy next year.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 4, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why wasn't this done last off-season??

If he has been needing this all along, then why were the other surgeries done and not this one??? I get a kick out of Geren saying that by fixing this he will be ready to go next season and “that is exciting”. Please! Spare me! I would be shocked to see him ready for next season. And if this “so called” problem is fixed, then another one will crop up. Please just retire Eric, and let us move on! You’re starting to remind me of Brett Favre. Best of luck with your surgery and thanks for all you’ve done, but please just ride off into the sunset.

All About The Exclamation Points!!!

by Goldzone on Aug 4, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS. Please donate your $25 million in unreceived money to the Wolff Fund.

Actually, you could just have written that.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he should talk it over with Alan Embree.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 5, 2008 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

+1 meaning that I agree completely with your sentiments here, and

+1 meaning that it’s about to become four frickin’ surgeries.

by Faust on Aug 5, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That stinking Chiefs helmet needs to go.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Aug 5, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember...

The A’s started in K.C.

All About The Exclamation Points!!!

by Goldzone on Aug 6, 2008 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, they didn't

There were a lot of stupid, long confusing words that I’m sure normal people don’t use. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry!, Philly then K.C.

But K.C. before Oaktown

All About The Exclamation Points!!!

by Goldzone on Aug 6, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want this DLD.

Take it back.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Aug 4, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+2

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no shit

I wait all frickin’ morning for a DLD, and this is what it says?!? Booooooo!!!!!

(btw, thanks tbp for starting one!)

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Aug 4, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deja Vu.

Is this 2007 all over again? Please no…...

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sir Elton?

Sad songs say so much.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 4, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sir Elton Pecs?

In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!

by DMOAS on Aug 4, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lenny the soft-tossing Panda

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 4, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a sad panda.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that makes ME a sad panda

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Collectively,

it makes us all sad pandas.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a "Pancho and Lefty" verse in there, somewhere ...

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 4, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

all the front office say

he couldn’t toss it anyway.
They never would let him play.
And now he’s on the DL…

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup -- I knew it!

Chavie needs your prayers, it’s true—but save a few for Lenny, too…

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 4, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I like

yours much better…

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Save a prayer till the morning after

"the A's need more quality preembreetive pitching" ~monkeyball

by OptimistPrime on Aug 4, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess this isn't much of a surprise

Still sucks though.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

of course he is

"The Athletics at Fremont" is quite bad

by ArakSOT on Aug 4, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gah.

I thought he was back.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Aug 4, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

:(

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Aug 4, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ding ding ding!

“Gah” is the correct answer! We would’ve also accepted:

1. Fuck.
2. Sure, keep the third baseman, he says…
3. Oof.
4. We deserve this.
5. I deserve this.
6. HaHA! I’m a troll! They deserve this!
7. click.
8. Feh…now, where’s that goat?
9. Feh, now, where’s that panda?
10. Feh, now who will play with the Unicorn?
11. Now the path is wide open for Hannahan! (note: only acceptable for direct Hannahan relatives and the mentally-unstable)
12. Shredded’s bad, right? Can we make the chicken back into a chicken after we shred it?
13. Fuck.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where the heck are the QOTM, Poppy?

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Aug 4, 2008 1:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

she's been deathly ill, no?

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So?

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Aug 4, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YARLY!

I got nominated for a few this time!!!

by mikev on Aug 4, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I could read the email of links I sent...

but I do enjoy her witty remarks added.

Mark Ellis: sent down from Heaven to rob Evil of hits and hand out rainbows

by Jennifer on Aug 4, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you.

I’m glad someone [cough]someonewhoisn’tsendingmehundredsoflinksatthelastminute [cough] understands…

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Aug 4, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From yesterday's NY Times Magazine:

Scary stuff about trolls who do worse things than post “bEeN sUx” diaries all over AN…

The Caldecott Tunnel Problem: Are you a lineupper or a sidezoomer? For the record, I can’t stand the sidezoomers who take the exit lane and then get back on. What about the (few) people who actually want to exit there? How rude.

by whiteshoes40 on Aug 4, 2008 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineupper

If you go to the “slow” lane prior to Shakespeare Festival exit You usually pass people on the far right.

Enjoy the game

by DCinWC on Aug 4, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah -- I start far left 'til it's time to merge successively right ...

... to the point where I can hassle the exiters trying to re-merge. There’s usually either a not-very-nimble truck or a more expensive car than mine (read “most cars”) that’ll let me merge right.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 5, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always take the exit lane on the right

1)The current situation where a bunch of people line up in the two tunnel lanes right away makes no sense, because it’s squandering space. An appropriate equilibrium would involve more people using the two left lanes and the exit lane. If that was the case the issue of fairness would not arise at all, since all lanes would be roughly equally fast.

2)The way it tends to work is that people speed up right before the tunnel when the two left lanes have fully merged, which creates gaps that are easy get into at a reasonably high speed, which doesn’t wind up slowing the people you are moving in front of down, as they are still accelerating. It is almost like removing oneself from the queue entirely. It is not good to do what some people do there, which is go right to the front, slow down to a stop, and wait for someone to let them in, which does slow things down. That also applies to some of the exit lanes going westbound out of SF on 80 during rush hour. Those exit lanes should not be used.

3)Aside from Shakespeare some number of nights per year, there is no conceivable reason to actually get off at that exit. And why should the Shakespeare people necessarily have priority over people trying to get through the tunnel. As for the exit right in front of the tunnel, traffic flows along just fine in that lane.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 4, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

um, I'm not going to get into this in detail,

because I take the exit lane too…

but most slowdowns occur because of merges, not lack of space. So if everyone lined up in two lanes and went straight, we’d all benefit. Using that third lane of space forces a lot of merging, which slows everything down. Take a look at traffic jams- they always occur at accidents, or places with a lot of merging.

Also, I’m confused as to whether your description in 2) is for going eastbound or westbound. Eastbound it definitely doesn’t work out that way. Westbound, it sometimes does, but only if you take the exit, and then get back on. I’m pretty sure no-one is accelerating fast prior to that exit.

by ohmangoAs on Aug 4, 2008 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant westbound

There doesn’t tend to be a backup eastbound when only bore is open. The worst traffic both ways is in the afternoon. And yeah, I meant taking the exit and getting back on. Merging in right before the exit, which some people do, makes no sense.

Obviously merges are the problem, but everyone has to merge at some point. You’re scenario is equivalent to just having a two lane freeway. There would be no bottleneck in that case, but everything would slow down due to lack of space. And a lot of times they occur because there are just too many cars, such as the afternoon eastbound commute, where there isn’t really much of a merging problem. That said, it’s best to change lanes as infrequently as possible/just merge once.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 5, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, not everyone has merge repeatedly

By exiting (IE unmerging) then remerging, you add a merge. Again, nothing personal, I do similar stuff all the time.

by ohmangoAs on Aug 5, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trolls are scary, with slight mental problems

hopefully that comment doesn’t start a flood of death threats!

So . . . if more people became sidezoomers traffic would flow better? maybe I might convert . . . nah!

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Aug 4, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost made a DLD for that

It doesn’t look so impressive until you realize that there are a LOT of new guys who will make that list and bump the C+s off.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 4, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

Add inoa, gio, DLS, sweeney, mazzaro, leon, cardenas, outman, donaldson, weeks, etc and its not so bad!

by faninphilly on Aug 4, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No "A's" for the A's?

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

by UncleLeo on Aug 4, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those grades are the grades he gave last fall

They aren’t updated or changed in this review.

The A’s didn’t get any A’s, but I’d say about half of all teams had zero guys with an A grade. It basically means you’re in the top 10 or 15 prospects in the entire minors.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll be interesting to see if Cahill or Anderson gets one next year

But PT is absolutely right, these are non-grade-inflation grades (or perhaps even grade deflation gifts).

A B+ is something to be very proud of in this system.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 4, 2008 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe they will both receive As, yes

The “Their Grade Now” thread saw a consensus (in the true meaning of the term—everyone who replied) A- for Cahill. Anderson didn’t get listed in that thread but since everyone I’ve seen has him at dead even or a little ahead or behind Cahill, he will most likely get the same.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw the disclaimer about the list being the same, but...

...since the stats were updated I presumed that the grades had been also. Seemed kind of lazy to upgrade the stats and make new comments without updating the grades. I hadn’t clicked on the link to the previous list.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

by UncleLeo on Aug 4, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sickels had a tragic death in the family recently...

I don’t think he’s been able to devote as much time to the site as he would typically.

"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah. Perfectly understandable then.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

by UncleLeo on Aug 4, 2008 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lazy?

The man’s doing this (more or less) for free… and he’s already writing one book a year. It seems a bit churlish to expect a second.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever, dude.

I understand the death in the family thing, as notsellingjeans pointed out, but if that weren’t the case, and you offered up this as his lone defense, I’d question your low standards in accepting obviously outdaded information mixed in with current information, even if there is a disclaimer up front. In normal circumstances, yes, that would be lazy. Not deceptive, just lazy.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

by UncleLeo on Aug 4, 2008 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All it was, was a check up basically.

It wasnt supposed to come with new grades an analysis.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 5, 2008 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 5, 2008 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Chavez should get a job with Sickels if the surgery doesn't work

Greed and fear cause over-reactions in both directions. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 5, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So does that mean Chavy will be back by March?

If he’s converted to first base, the only throw he really has to make is the one to second to start a double play. They can arrange cutoffs from the outfield so that he’s not responsible if they have to.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd really like to see him at 1b next spring...

and Barton get another year in AAA. It can only help. Maybe some added strength as he grows into his mid-20s will add power.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Barton can try converting to 3B again

His defense at 1B has been pretty damn good. Maybe he’s actually focusing on D now?

by mikev on Aug 4, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the ticket.

Barton doesn’t need to have his bat in AAA another year, and he certainly has enough arm to play third.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Aug 4, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't think his bat could stand to improve?

"Innings eater? Depends on whether you want delicious innings or burnt, moldy innings. Kirk Saarloos is the Hot Pockets of inning eaters." - Gallagher's Watermelons

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted it as a fanshot

before seeing the DLD

...not very good news, anyway…

by OaklandSi on Aug 4, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At least we still have Ellis

It would so rule to date that guy.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 4, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't want to rush things.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 4, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was...

disturbing.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was kind of uplifting.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 4, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's all relative, I suppose

better than the stark NWO that the NYT article above paints. At least with unicorns, there’s some happiness….

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 4, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a place to hang the plasma TV

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh.

The “have you had sex with enough people” quiz at the bottom of that page doesn’t show results.

There's no textbook for how to treat a geriatric tapir.

by Poppy on Aug 4, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the A's lack of power in the offense...

I was stunned to discover today that there’s several teams with less home runs this year than the A’s – Blue Jays included.

The Giants have the least home runs in baseball as a team – 19 less than the A’s! They’ve only hit 61 homers this year and they don’t have a guy in double figures yet. That’s pretty awful.

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty convinced at this point

that MLB has “unjuiced” the baseballs this season to make it look like they’ve got the PED problem under control.

Why? Because there’s no way you would have a dropoff this neat and clean if players were gradually stopping steroid use. The line from league office is way too pat.

There is such a thing as a theory fitting the facts too well, and the theory that baseball’s HR decline is due to better drug testing is one such.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...something smells fishy...HRs way down overall

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

makes sense

"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers

by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed 100%

Greed and fear cause over-reactions in both directions. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 4, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing I have noticed that goes with that

is how many times I have seen fans, announcers, even players think a ball is out without a doubt and it barely makes it to the warning track. (of course this doesn’t apply to hawk, or hud-who think every ball hit is out of the stadium.)

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Aug 4, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's because Cust is good at baseball

And is #9 in the AL in home runs

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 4, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GIO

Chavez out for year leads to 60-day DL, which… turns into 40-man spot for GIO

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Aug 4, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part of that

is the “plus tips” part. I was unaware you were supposed to tip the lice checker.

By process of elimination (the only process I endorse), I guess that makes you a piece of lamb. @('.')@

by Leopold Bloom on Aug 5, 2008 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they just received conditional approval to join my union ...

The International Brotherhood of Copy Editors, Garbage Collectors, Dishwashers … and Nit-Pickers

Greed and fear cause over-reactions in both directions. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 5, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis:

from ESPN… havent looked for SF Chron link yet:

Athletics second baseman Mark Ellis told the San Francisco Chronicle before Sunday’s game that his agent, Jamie Murphy, has been talking with the front office about a possible multi-year contract extension.

by oakinboston on Aug 5, 2008 9:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's the source

It’s just a sentence at the bottom but it’s good news.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 5, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Similarly

my band just signed a record deal with Universal!!

Now we’re just waiting for them to sign it…

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 5, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hah

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 5, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Things going better since you kicked-out Monkeyball?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 5, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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