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What's up with Daric?

Oh, Staplehead. After his exceptional start to his career last season, I figured we were in for a treat this year. No, I didn't expect him to continue his amazing pace (.347/.429/.639, for a beautiful 1.067 OPS, albeit in 18 games), but I hoped he'd show promise in his rookie season of a long, bright future at 1B.

Star-divide

Sigh. His line currently stands, at the end of August, as .217/.309/.320. He flirted with a batting average under the Mendoza line, and an OPS below .600 as recently as a week and a half ago, opening the Mariners series at .203/.299/.296. That's a lot of 2's, folks. Almost, dare I say it, Neifian. I decided to make my first FanPost on Daric Barton, to see if I could uncover what was going on. A word of warning: I'm no expert, by any means, but I thought I could at least try to cobble together some kind of statistical analysis.


The first very noticeable difference between last year and this season, small sample size notwithstanding, is his line drive percentage. At the end of last season, it was sitting at a comfortable 20.8%. For the vast majority of this year, his LD% has hovered at about 15%, currently sitting at 14.8%. His groundball and fly percentages have remained very comparable to 2007.


So what's changed? He's striking out more. A lot more. In 2007, his K% sat a little higher than 20%, coming to rest at the end of the season at 15.3%. Now? His strikeout percentage has sat at 25% almost the entire year. Interestingly enough, his amazing 2007 start in the big leagues had a very similar strikeout percentage to his career in Sacramento in 2006-07.


As for this season, his production has actually been dropping as the season went on. Aside from a small power surge in early June, as well as last week's Herculean by comparison performance, his OPS has essentially been falling the entire year. This graph shows his production throughout the year, tracked by game. Believe me, it's not pretty. (Click to see a bigger, actually readable version.)

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One interesting thing to notice from the graph is that although his BB/K ratio has remained relatively constant throughout the year, his strikeout percentage and walk percentage has dropped fairly steadily since the beginning of July. His strikeout and walk percentages now stand at 23.5% and 11.4%, respectively. Good on dropping the strikeouts, bad on the walks, Daric.


I suppose the most disappointing thing about doing this analysis is that I hoped to find a glimmer of hope in this season, such as seeing a rise in line drive percentage or something of the sort. I haven't found any such thing. I'd love to get my hands on some pitches/plate appearance stats per game, but I haven't found a way to get the numbers, other than individually counting the pitches in MLB Gameday.


It has to be noted, however, that he just turned 23. He still has plenty of time to figure the big leagues out. I'm still optimistic that he'll start to put it together next year (in Sacramento, possibly?), but barring another magic September, I'm afraid we may have to wait a little longer than we had originally thought for the return of 2007 Daric.

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One very specific observation:

This year he is very prone to chasing fastballs off the plate inside. He doesn’t swing and miss these pitches – worse yet he hits the ball, usually popping up or weakly grounding to the right side.

Mostly, as I see it Barton’s problem is that in contrast to last September the swing is not quick and the ball does not jump off his bat. Last Sept, his bat looked lightning quick to me and the ball came off the bat more “kapow” than “slsshmrph”.

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by Nico on Aug 31, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right

At the beginning of this season, maybe during the Japan games, I said in a game thread that Barton swung later than just about anybody I had ever seen. And that was a compliment. What I meant was that he waited on pitches until they seemed like they were past him and he still made good contact. I have no idea where that guy went.

As for the inside pitches, it seems like people here bitch and moan when he doesn’t swing at one a couple inches off the plate (that is often called a strike), but when he does he’s not simply fouling it off. He’s popping it up. So what’s he to do? Those pitches are frequently impossible to hit solidly and fair, and he’s not getting the calls. I think he’s been rattled by his strike zone judgment not getting him as far as it used to (and, honestly, I think it’s unfair rookie treatment more than anything). He’s trying different things and those aren’t working. That probably explains his performance getting worse.

If he’s completely healthy and can see and all that, I think next year will be a completely different story for him. I think he just needs an offseason to remember that he’s a really good baseball player.

by thejd44 on Sep 1, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to require an off season

to remind myself that he’s a good ballplayer too. To be fair, he IS a good ballplayer.

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by alox on Sep 1, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you have any skills with computers (and that graph suggest you probably do)

I suggest a pitchf/x database described here by Mike Fast. You could query all of Barton’s PA and find out how many pitches he’s seen per as the year went on, though I’m not exactly sure what the query would look like.

If you want to just know his P/PA ESPN lists the stat, it was 4.03 at least on August 18 when I wrote my own post on how terrible Barton has been (don’t mean to steal your thunder).

I too feel that Barton will put it together, though he may have more of a John Olerud career path than a Wade Boggs

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by iamawesomer on Aug 31, 2008 9:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd accept Olerud...

I’m more worried about him having a Doug Mientkiewicz career path at this point…

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by PaulThomas on Aug 31, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds scarily plausible

I still think he’ll be a slow/late bloomer – as Carlos Peña was, for example. That’s why I’d be happy to see him returned to AAA for a year, mature and come back when he’s 24 and if he’s as good as we’d hoped we have him into his late 20s.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 31, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mientkiewicz could field

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Sep 1, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I am aware of that fact

Have you considered the possibility that I used the comparison intentionally?

Barton is one of the best defensive 1B in baseball.

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by PaulThomas on Sep 1, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is amazing to me that he has made as many errors as he has while being so good defensively.

by chri5 on Sep 1, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I no longer even look at errors when I'm considering defense for major leaguers

They’re worse than useless; they’re actively deceptive.

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by PaulThomas on Sep 1, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooooh.

I’ve never done anything like that, but those instructions look pretty good. I’ll try it out, definitely. Thanks!

by danmerqury on Sep 1, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've mentioned this before, but I'd be very curious to know if he has bad vision

Some people suffer deteriorating vision in their early 20s. Sometimes he commits to swinging at pitches so ridiculously early, it looks as if he’s just guessing.

I too hope he starts ’09 in AAA and Chavy is the opening day 1b.

It’s worth mentioning that Barton was merely an .800 OPS guy in Sacramento last year. He was never a AAA star. Many of the projections for him this season were inflated by that tremendous month last September, but it was just that – a month.

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by notsellingjeans on Aug 31, 2008 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, they need to get this checked out

I mean, LASIK turned Cristian Guzman into an acceptable hitter… it’s obviously pretty effective…

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by PaulThomas on Aug 31, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but when Guzman's eyes liquify in his late 40's...

… well, won’t he look silly?

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by Joey C. on Aug 31, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joke

I know next to nothing about the subject.

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by Joey C. on Sep 1, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd guess it was the march wrist injury rather than any eye injury

I don’t agree at all about him committing to swinging early. His approach his whole career has been to commit late, and that’s what he’s been doing this season, but it’s led to a ton of swinging Ks on fastballs well above his career rate. He’s also been swinging for the fences (less so lately), which is a pretty bad idea when you don’t have much power (and not really a good idea if you do have power.) I think his eye is fine, and he should just try to recapture the approach he had in the minors.

To my eyes, he commits to swinging the latest on the entire team.

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by mikeA on Aug 31, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's been my theory all season - that his wrist is not 100%

Just the way the ball meets the bat looks like the problem is at the point of contact. Making contact has not been the biggest problem, but the lack of force through the zone has been markedly different from what I saw last Sept.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 1, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that means sometime in October he'll get wrist surgery

And we’ll all be pissed off he didn’t just do that in May.

by thejd44 on Sep 1, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then in March, he'll have the second wrist surgery

that is “the one he really needed all along,” and we’ll all be pissed off that he didn’t have the procedure he really needed in October.

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by Nico on Sep 1, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the time the 7th wrist surgery rolls around...

… we’ll have seen way too much of Wes Bankston.

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by Joey C. on Sep 1, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

um. he's has trouble hitting a thrown baseball.

and, just as much difficulty catching one that might come his way which can be a detriment for a first baseman.

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by oakath on Sep 1, 2008 8:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Right now it's gotta be mental...

I would’ve been very happy with a .750 OPS this year. After struggling so badly out of the gate he must’ve started pressing… expanding his strikezone. Then of course when everyone tells him to stop swinging at balls then he stops swinging all together.

He should play this fall in AZ, start next year in AAA and get his head together.

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by brenarlo on Sep 1, 2008 10:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Check out his BABIP

He’s been extremely unlucky this year.

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by hero66 on Sep 1, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's been pretty unlucky

But he’s hit a lot of flyballs, and when those don’t go for HR much its going to make your BABIP look worse than the normal “add .12 to LD%” mantra will show.

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by iamawesomer on Sep 1, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has been a little bit unlucky

and a lot bit “not very good” – he just hasn’t hit the ball hard consistently this year, and his swing is not as quick or dangerous.

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by Nico on Sep 1, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have the data to back this up...

but it seems like barton has been swinging a bit earlier in the count lately. I think it’s just because he’s pressing and knows like you observed his bat isn’t as quick right now.

by mattman on Sep 1, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His Home run / flyball rate is 5.6%.

That would be fine…if he was a slick fielding middle infielder. From a 1b, it’s completely and utterly unacceptable. And that lack of power is disturbing.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Sep 2, 2008 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

League average in the AL is 11%, in the NL 12%

For a slugger, it should be around 15% or better.

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Sep 2, 2008 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cue Darth Vader

I find your lack of power… disturbing.

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by nevermoor on Sep 2, 2008 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what I've seen

He’s hit plenty of line drives that just happened to be right at people. He’s been robbed of hits on sensational plays, the latest being the Casilla-Punto DP. He’s hit a lot of deep flyballs at, near, or on the warning track that have just missed going out. As he gets older and more powerful, those balls will start going out of the ballpark.

Barton will be just fine.

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by hero66 on Sep 1, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to what all the professional statheads will have to say about this season

I have an incredibly hard time believing that a kid with Barton’s résumé suddenly forgot how to hit.

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by Joey C. on Sep 1, 2008 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a combination of bad luck, being scouted, and struggling with failing for the first time

What’s a good thing is that he hasn’t, apparently, gotten too mentally down about it. In his latest mailbag, Urban mentions that Barton has kept the attitude that he can hit all year long. Where he has apparently been affected mentally is that he’s constantly changing his approach and he’s no longer playing his game. I think he’ll come into spring training next year without all the tinkering and he’ll just do his thing.

I haven’t soured on him at all as long as that wrist is healthy next season.

by thejd44 on Sep 1, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh

2-2 with a triple and a homer so far today.

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by hero66 on Sep 2, 2008 7:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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