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How about our future A's

 

 

 

 

Star-divide

How about us looking at the positives of  rest of this season and 2009

There really isn’t much sense in blaming anyone like Geren or Beane or Nico’s goat for this year’s downturn.  Let’s look at what we have and what options we have for next year.

 

 Position Players

C- Suzuki -  He is the starting Catcher for the duration.  I do think that Powell, if he stays healthy will be the backup for 2009 and beyond.

 

1B – Barton -  He needs to get back to his old hitting style and forget about the pressure.  Not sure how long before Doolittle or Everidge can come up but I would put my money on Doolittle winning out of the three for long term solution at 1B. Doolittle provides one half of the Power 1B that people have been wanting. 

 

2B – Ellis – Possibly his last year with the team but you never know.  I would probably put 2009 as a competition between our infield prospects below.

 

SS – Crosby -  Probably here through 2009 if BB doesn’t decide to extend him (Just kidding),  But I bet there is a competition for SS too.

 

3B -  Hannahan -  Depends on what BB really thinks of Baisley.  We have a couple different long term possibilities here with Carter playing 3rd now.  Carter, if he can handle 3B long term would be the Power for this corner IF position.

 

Infield prospects: 

Guzman

Pennington

Petit

Cardenas

Horton

Patterson

 Who do you think will m ake it from the above list in 2009?  I like Cardenas (probably  later than 2009) and Patterson.

OF -  Cargon CF,  Sweeney RF are our main outfielders now and for the future.  I do believe these two will grow to be well above average fielders and hitters but I don’t have any stats to prove my futuristic point.  Just a hunch.  I felt this same way when Ricky Henderson came up.. but who knows.  Hopefully Buck can get his head and body on straight and healthy and start playing like he can.  I really think that Cunningham is the future CF with Cargon moving to RF and Sweeney to LF.  That would be one hell of an outfield. And finially we get some potential Power out there. 

 

Starting Pitchers: 

Duke - looks like he will be traded in the offseason but he would be a mainstay if he doesn’t get dealt. 

Gallagher – is going to have the opportunity to excel and I think he may be able to handle that.

Greg Smith -  he could stay long term also as he has the skills to improve.

Gio - I think Gio will definately be ready for Sept 2008 and to stay up in 2009.

Mazzaro - He is up in Sac now I heard and has been getting better and better. He may be ready sometime next year. 

Relief Pitchers:

Street – He could get dealt but would be a good setup pitcher for us in the future.

Brown – Once he gets completely healthy again he is going to be a good Middle relief  guy for us.

Ziegler – HE STAYS -  Could do some closing.. or at least be a top of the line setup pitcher.

Blevins – Another who could stay around as a middle relief pitcher.

Casilla – Depends on which guy shows up but I like his style and hopefully he gets more and more comfortable with middle relief pitching… and if he can settle down a little he could be a top notch closer.

Devine – Everyone loves this guy.  Thank you Kotsay!  He could be long term anywhere in the relief corps, including closer of the future.

 

Ok,  now that I have said my piece, let's forget about blame and look at the bright for our A’s. Of course BB could actually trade for a top SS or 3B but I have to go with what we already have.  

 

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Power?

You make a statement that seems to imply that Aaron Cunningham is going to bring all this power to the A’s. He has 43 home runs in 1395 career minor league at bats. That’s not very powerful.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am looking more at the future. I can see Cunningham, Sweeney and Cargon coming together and getting

better as the year goes on. All three have alot of potential.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 3, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of the three OF

Cunningham looks like he might have the most Power right now, with PC not hitting for much atm. But next year hopefully PC will start hitting for Power, Cunningham will provide a decent amount for a CF, and Sweeney.. well.. here’s to High Ave, High OBP, no SLG.

Stil, thats a decent outfield. But the Infield is the big question with a HUGE hole on the left side, and a slightly smaller hole on the right.

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by Zonis on Aug 3, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Sweeney, Cunningham, Gonzalez,

I think you could hope for 60 HRs from the OF. Whether that’s 15, 20, 25 respectively, or 20, 20, 20, or 10, 20, 30, the potential is there in some combination.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's great about this outfield is the defense and the potential offense. Hopefully the power will come.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 3, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double power is very important as well.

Hitting a double with runners on is a necessary part of the game if you want to win a lot of games and it’s one of many things we haven’t done at all this year.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Aug 3, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

58,1,1 ?

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Streams Of Whiskey on Aug 3, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BINGO!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rad

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Streams Of Whiskey on Aug 3, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be an ideal outcome ...

it’s a lot easier to replace two 20 hr hitters than to find a 58 hr hitter …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Aug 3, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure about that

All 3 are young and can develop the home run power, but I think they’re more likely to be 45-50 HRs combined, but they all could provide a ton of doubles. Gonzalez is already doing that.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree they may not combine for 60

But I think it’s a reasonable hope. I suspect Gonzalez will develop 25-30 HR power at some point, that Cunningham will be a 15-20 HR guy and that Sweeney will be only a 10 HR guy. That’s 50-60.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't see that Sweeney has less power (potential) than Cunningham

As a 21 year old in AAA, Sweeney had 13 in 449 ABs, and 10 in 397 ABs. In AA as a 22 year old, Cunningham has 12 in 337 ABs. Their doubles numbers are also similar.

I think Sweeney, if he were in AA right now, would have more home runs than Cunningham.

I kinda hate this debate because I come across as being down on Cunningham. I’m not. I just think Sweeney is going to be a better major leaguer, and if one of the guys ends up a 4th OF it’s going to be Cunningham. I hope they both succeed, and in the optimistic projection of those two and Gonzalez being very good players for many years to come, the A’s OF future looks bright.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minor League Splits's calculator

thinks that he would have 5 home runs this year in the Texas League. (It also thinks he would have a .393 batting average… so perhaps this is not foolproof.)

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick comp

Sweeney 507 MiLB games, 34 HRs, 106 2b/3b
Cunningham 366 MiLB games, 43 HRs, 102 2b/3b

Now it’s entirely possible that Cunningham’s power is overstated—but there’s nothing in his record or the scouting reports that suggest Sweeney is going to develop much power …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Aug 4, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Sweeney Power thing is because of his size, and everyone's been projecting power on him since he was drafted

but he has NEVER shown any power. He has a swing that is geared towards average, not power. He’d have to completly rework his swing.

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by Zonis on Aug 4, 2008 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My personal projection for him going forward is

.270/.340/.400, (around 10 HRs), which I can live without in a corner OF spot. I’d like to see the A’s add a slugging OFer like Burrell or a younger version, to go with Gonzalez and Cunningham, and use Sweeney either as a 4th OFer or as a trade chip to help GET A REAL SHORTSTOP.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted a thread on Sickle's blog for Org Prospect Depth Charts

You might wana check it out. And while we’re at it, since this is a 2009 Rosterbation thread, here’s my pre-Beane-trade-extraviganza 2009 Roster.

C1 Kurt Suzuki
1B Daric Barton
2B Eric Patterson
3B Jack Hannahan
SS Bobby Crosby
LF Ryan Sweeney
RF Carlos Gonzalez
CF Aaron Cunningham
DH Jack Cust

C2 Landon Powell
IF Gregorio Petit
OF Travis Buck
OF Rajai Davis

SP Justin Duchscherer
SP Sean Gallagher
SP Greg Smith
SP Dana Eveland
SP Gio Gonzalez

RP Huston Street
RP Joey Devine
RP Santiago Casila
RP Andrew Brown
RP Brad Ziegler
RP Dan Meyer
RP Jerry Blevins

Not sure what to do with Chavez, or if he will play even. Guess they could try him at 1B if Barton fails again, or DH if they don’t think Cunningham is ready (though its been hinted quite a bit that Cunningham will get a September call up and be starting for the A’s.) It also depends on if Buck remembers how to hit/think. And then there’s the question of trades…

All said though, A’s REALLY need an SS and 3B.

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by Zonis on Aug 3, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank Zonis,

I think they are really looking to see if Cardenas and Cater can move into the SS and 3B positions. If they can that would provide a solution. If not, then hopefully Beane has another trade or two up his sleeves for those two.
I really think Beane may believe that he already has enough to fill out most of the next few years.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 3, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Along those lines, a question:

I noticed that the catcher we got in the Harden trade, Josh Donaldson, is a “converted 3Bman” – I don’t suppose he could give it another whirl, eh?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume THEY assume that he can pick it back up again if need be

Generally speaking, though, you don’t move a player off of a harder defensive position to an easier one unless he’s in AAA and blocked at the majors or he’s having problems hacking it defensively.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little unsure of what you're saying

Which do you think is harder defensively, third base or catcher?

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Catcher (I'm assuming)

In other words, if you’ve got a guy who can catch, he’s less valuable if you move him to 3B so there’s no reason to do it (unless it’s the only way he gets to the Show, and he’s ready).

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Catcher's not that difficult

I’ve taken hundreds of foul tips off my mask and I’ve never vd9 dap21 $#% xey crumpets!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just laughed out loud

mmmmm, crumpets.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Catcher

A league average catcher is usually around 10 runs worse offensively than a league average third baseman.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to think Chavez will be ready to go by next year

I’d put him at DH or 1B, with Barton in the other spot, and Cust in LF. I don’t WANT that to be the case, but that’s probably what’ll happen.

I’d also think our best defensive outfield given those players is Gonzalez in CF, Cunningham in LF, and Sweeney in RF. Gonzalez is a stud centerfielder.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tend to agree - I think 8 months or rest and rehab

is likely to put Chavez in the position he was in this June – able to hit pain-free and hit well – as long as he doesn’t throw. We’ll never know how Chavez’ shoulder would have held up had he returned to DH this year, but I suspect it would have gone better; given 8 months of treatment I could see him being “good to go” as a productive DH or possibly as a 1Bman.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Cust have a contract after this season?

I’ll go for Dallas McPherson at 3B. He has the strikeouts like Cust but he has more power then Cust. He’s batting over .300 in AAA. I would give hime a try.

"Hey dad my Jack Cust Bobblehead is batting right handed"....."He's not batting right handed he's striking out swinging."

by What Would Rickey Do on Aug 3, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cust is under contract control for another 4 years isn't he?

Last year was his first “anywhere close to full” season.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3

He came to the A’s with over a year’s service time.

(BTW, McPherson sucks. The park he’s playing in would make anyone look good. He’d be Cust without the walks, which actually IS terrible.)

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And let's face it - our luck with players

whose first names are cities in Texas is spotty.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't bode well for

Adrian Cardenas or …

Bobby? Is that YOU?

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually this explains a few things

Johnson
Murphy
Antonio

And of course:
Rich Harden

But should we worry?
Gonzales

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not worried

Both of the A’s spell their last name with a second Z, thereby foiling that curse.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At last..

a reason to be optimistic about Huston!

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hannahan starting again next year?

for the love of god nooooooo…....

Cust is the new Jaha.

by johnjahafanclub on Aug 3, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's gonna be another looong year...

Finished with my woman 'cause she couldn't help me with my mind...

by diaryofmac10 on Aug 3, 2008 5:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes it could be, but it will also be an exciting year watching the kids grow up and become our future A's.

As I told a friend of mine who thinks she may have screwed up her job and might lose it. Worrying about it and thinking negative thoughts is not going to help at all. So, if she starts thinking about the good things she has, we start thinking about our young A’s both will end up where we want them.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 3, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the A's used their prospect overload to trade for

a legitimate major league ready power hitter (a Gamel, or LaPorta, or Yonder Alonso – check him out), and signed another, e.g., Giambi, it’s conceivable that the A’s could have a decent offense next year along with solid starting pitching and a good bullpen. But they are, IMO, not one but two bats away. And that’s, like, a lot.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 5:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Trouble is, I think Gameling is illegal in California

And I’m still skeptical of anyone whose name is an anagram of Satan.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but think of how having Satan on our club could help us win the Series

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 3, 2008 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's Score Third Straight 6-0 Victory!

Six runs on six hits…the six errors are a bit of a problem…

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 runs, 6 hits, 6 errors?

It’s a team of nine Jack Custs!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Lefty Grove on the mound

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they wanted a player like that

they could easily have taken one in the draft. Brett Wallace, Ike Davis, David Cooper, Allen Dykstra… the list goes on. There were so many slugging college 1B out there that even if your scouts red-flagged the “best” one, there had to be one that they liked. It’s not at all clear that any of them would have been better prospects than Sean Doolittle anyway, so I understand why they didn’t go that route.

I have to admit, I’m warming to the Giambi idea. I despise him completely as an individual, but he still knows how to hit. Who knows, though—the Yankees might even pick up his option.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giambi's the last of the major leaguers that I actually knew

(second to last was Spiezio), and I have to say he was always very nice to me and those around him, so I can’t despise him. Just curious, PT, if you were Beane and decided you wanted to try to compete in 2009 and needed a couple power hitters, how would you go about making it happen without sacrificing the long-term rebuilding plan for 2010-2013?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not PT

but, I would seriously consider signing Furcal. It seems logical, the only thing I’m worried about is his back holding up. After that, we can see if we can’t get a 3B or something thats better than replacement level. Hank Blalock is a FA next year I think. I dunno though, with those two you wouldn’t want to get locked into long term deals, and they’re both coming off injuries I believe.
I think you could give Furcal a 3/40-ish deal, that has some incentives in it that would bump it up a few million more. Blalock is trickier, but I’m sure a deal could be reached if we really wanted to. Something that was 2 years long would probably make sense.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Blalock because he tanks against lefties

and isn’t good enough defensively to make up for being a good-but-not-great hitter.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

He’s mostly a Texas byproduct, hence why I didn’t specifically talk about him.
Furcal would be the better bet, although they’re both kinda meh with Furcs back.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Morgasm

Needs to make more posts about Rosterbation

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though if it persists for more than 4 hours at a time,

please consult your doctor.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His username isn't Merection...

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM

Maybe it’s the alcohol, but I laughed long and hard at that one.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Long and hard?

Has it been that way for 4 hours?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My username isn't Moblique....

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use as directed

Side effects include nausea, drowsiness, and lack of OPS.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unlike the myriad of products, of course,

that should not be used as directed.

{Warning: side effects include passing out on lawns, swinging late on fastballs, lack of OPS, and causing nausea in others.}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And diving into the shallow end of pools head first

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 3, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear

My username is causing quite the commotion.

Oh noes.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not as much as veg-gasm.

Oh…I mean “vegasgm.”

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He causes commotion for a different reason

He’s authored several of the worst FanPosts I’ve seen on AN.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good question

I don’t know how much money the team has available right now that isn’t being earmarked for the minor leagues, so I’m going to offer several proposals at different “budget levels”.

Bargain basement: Sign Russell Branyan to play third base for 1 year plus an option year, $3 million guaranteed, $6 million total if the option is exercised. Call up Jeff Baisley to platoon with Branyan. Replace Mark Ellis with another platoon, Eric Patterson and Jesus Guzman. DFA Bobby Crosby and replace him with Gregorio Petit. If Eric Chavez is healthy, he bumps Barton down to AAA and plays first base. (Payroll: $40 million)

Medium price: Sign Branyan, as above. Re-sign Mark Ellis, 3 years, $24 million. Sign Jason Giambi, 2+1, $18 million guaranteed. Replace Crosby with Petit. (Payroll: $56 million)

Expensive: Sign Branyan, as above. Sign Pat Burrell, 4 years, $65 million. Re-sign Mark Ellis, as above. Replace Crosby with Petit. (Payroll: $68 million)

Extravagant: Sign Branyan, as above. Sign Rafael Furcal, 3 years, $35 million plus incentives for games played. Sign Pat Burrell, as above. Re-sign Mark Ellis, as above. (Payroll: $81 million)

The A’s will need about $12 million in addition to the above to continue to invest wisely in the minor league system (through overslot bonuses, etc). I support that effort even if it means a slight decrease in the quality of the MLB team. So it all depends on how much the team has available. I believe that the team has about $80 million in revenue per year for baseball ops, which would argue for the “expensive” plan. Hopefully as the salaries above phase out, the team will be able to transfer that money to long-term contracts for the younger players like Carlos Gonzalez and Trevor Cahill.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Branyan's interesting - one thing that stands out

is that he cannot hit LHP. So you would do well to go to a straight-up platoon with a “lefty-masher”. I don’t know if Baisley is that guy, or whether there’s an easy-cheap pickup the A’s could make.

And though I’d rather have Burrell than Giambi “all things being equal,” I think Giambi is the better target because he’ll be cheaper and will likely accept a shorter contract. I think if you sign either of those guys, it should be short-term (2 years) because they won’t be good enough when the core of this team matures and you don’t want a lot of money tied into an aging slugger at that point.

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Burrell contract covers his age 32-35 years

He’s not likely to undergo an extensive decline in that period. If he does, it will most likely be in the final year—and given that you aren’t going to get much of a discount for a shorter deal anyway (he might go 3/60) there’s not much reason to bother with one.

Also keep in mind that Chavez will be off the books after 2010 (or 2011).

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question: If the A's did sign Burrell, how would you handle

Burrell, Sweeney, Cunningham, Gonzalez, Cust? Would you move one of them, or would you figure “there’s enough playing time to go around” and keep them all in the “every day mix”?

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 players, 4 positions

There’s enough room for all of them.

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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 players, 4 positions

I watched that the other night.

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by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a relief to know I'm not the only one

who likes to watch group sex.

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I laughed so hard

I broke the stitches I got from surgery.
Oh god.

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Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Preston

Youth Corrections. So erotic.

Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.

by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minors? Erotic? That's DISGUSTING

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a farm animal waiting.

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll one up you right here!

[Insert Awful Porno Related Genre]

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you checked out action36.com?

(NSFW)
(also NSF your sanity)

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

action36 has probably gotten so much traffic from us today, lol. Blez should be mad at the untapped revenue :)

by ohmangoAs on Aug 3, 2008 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What makes anyone think Burrell will sign for fewer than five or six years?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume we plan to ask nicely

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Branyan possibly a much worse fielder than Hannahan?

I view Hannahan as being a bit above average and Branyan absolutely terrible. I imagine it would be pretty close who’s the better overall player.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's consult one unreliable metric!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hee hee.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have Dunn than Burrell, and I don't think the cost'll be different

Because Dunn is a misunderstood player.

Now that Bay is gone, and assuming Corey Hart is unlikely to move in the offseason, Dunn’s my guy.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Hart doesn't move in the off-season,

then no way does he come to spring training as skinny as he is now.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is actually some possibility

that the Brewers will break up their current team after this postseason run, because they are losing the front end of their rotation and may opt for rebuilding.

There may be some bargains to be had at that fire sale.

(BTW, how is Burrell not “misunderstood”?)

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying he isn't

But when a GM goes on record saying you’re garbage you win the “misunderstood” battle.

I’d love to have either of them, and if Beane picked Burrell I’d be thrilled, I’d just rather have Dunn. I do think he’ll come for a lot less than the MLB HR leader over the last several years should.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn's younger too

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why would they do that?

they may lose a front of the rotation pitcher, but they’ll have gallardo back.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 4, 2008 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i assume they’ll be able to keep one of the two.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 4, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't either - both are looking at

a unique chance for a “career contract”. The Brewers will have to be the highest bidder in each case, methinks, and the competition will be stiff.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I've heard is that NY wants Giambi out of town

Then again it was the same type of rumbling that Dunn’s option would not be picked up. Still I think the Yanks will not pick up Giambi’s option, but they might try to sign him for a lower deal. I really think he could be good coming back to us though. 3, $30M? Pick up Giambi, trade for a JJ Hardy or a Tejada and I think we could be on the verge of contending next year.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Aug 3, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

Giambi really pissed off alot of the fanbase when he went to New York. I mean, I know BB makes unpopular decisions all the time, but I would think this is one he would shy away from.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So did Foulke when he went to Boston

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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to anywhere near the same extent ...

because a.) no one cared that much about Foulke to begin with, b.) he didn’t go on Letterman, and c.) he didn’t go to New York

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Aug 3, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was a lot more pissed at Foulke since he said he went to Boston

because they had a chance to win a World Series. Right after he gave up the double to Ortiz to blow the lead in Game 4 of the ALDS. I can forgive giving up the double, and I can forgive going to Boston, but the statement really grates on me even today.

Giambi went to the Yankees because he always wanted to play there. I can understand that. I give him a pass on the Letterman thing because…well he’s just not that bright.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

d)

foulke didn’t imply that the A’s don’t care about winning when he left town

Giambi did.

I don’t care and many fans don’t remember. They’re so used to seeing guys leave they’d probably be happy to have one old ex-Athletic back.

Cust is the new Jaha.

by johnjahafanclub on Aug 3, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Giambi really say the A's don't care about winning after they won 102 games?

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That just gave the team 102 opportunities

to demonstrate how little they cared.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt that would affect Beane's decision one iota

Just as I doubt Giambi would hear anything but cheers after his first walk-off HR. Plus, Duchscherer would be a much better pitcher if Giambi signed with the A’s – that alone should be worth it.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

If he brings the ‘stache back to Oakland we could have some grade A+ commercials.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anything

if Giambi came for the right price, this is one decision he wouldn’t shy away from.

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by DMOAS on Aug 3, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I regress

Foulke, and the right asking price.

You’re right.

'Who's that guy we had to release last year because he robbed a bank?'- Billy Beane
Sean Gallagher is my hero.

by Morgasm on Aug 3, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point,

it wouldn’t take a HR for the fans to embrace him as if nothing were ever amiss. A single ought to do the job.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 3, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like Frank to sign as a role player as well, if he'd want that job

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pinch runner?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And utility infielder

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cooper

is hitting well thus far. I would have liked the A’s to draft him. Highschool buddy, but the A’s already have enough depth at the 1b/Dh position. Yanks would most likely allocate the 22 million on Giambi’s option to Mark Teixera if he was the least bit interested in signing with NY.

Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.

by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter, you mean?

If so, maybe not SUCH a close buddy.

“Hey Coop!”
“It’s Carter, you $&#$%”
“Aright – the Coopmeistah!!!”
“Just call me Chris, and stay the f—away, ok?”
“My buddy Coop!”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO,

David Cooper. Cal product.

Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.

by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cartmeister!!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You caught me.

I am a phony. I don’t know anyone named Cooper or Carter. Just a goat i call Cooter.

Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.

by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A goat, I might add, who doesn't call back

I hate Cooter.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the Giambi idea.

But with most of our ideas on AN something will get in the way of that happening because it makes too much sense for us to actually get him. I don’t see us ever really being active in the FA market until that elusive stadium comes to fruition, unless an absolute steal comes along. Maybe a guy we could target whose stock is at its lowest right now is Travis Hafner. He’s expensive, sure, but we could have Cleveland pick up some of that salary if we send the right prospects their way and we plug him in at DH and hope to God that he returns to form.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Aug 3, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's interesting

although shoulder injuries are a beast to overcome. look at jason kendall

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Aug 3, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As soon as I hear "...and hope to God..."

I think two things:

1. Oh no.
2. That’s the A’s, fer ya.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think to myself

Thank goodness we already have a cust-tastic DH and don’t need to chase question marks there.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting - I was going to do a fanpost about how he sucks

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beat

you to it.

Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.

by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

There’s a long line forming for the coveted “newest Cust sucks” FanPost. It’s over there.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone should create a Ryan Sweeney sucks post, detailing how he

1) never homers
2) is much worse than Gonzalez in CF
3) never steals bases
4) never triples
5) never doubles
6) hardly ever lays down a bunt or pulls a ball to the right side when called for
7) drives in and scores very few runs
8) never takes one for the team, often avoiding pitches right at him
9) is at his crappiest when 2 out and RISP
10) is a scrub that should be either a 4th OF or trade bait

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's unfortunate that the first 5 are kinda true

and that #7 applies to our entire team.

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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's hitting .300 ergo he is a star MLB player

That .385 SLG is completely irrelevant to any evaluation of him.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

9) He slugs .286 with 2 out and RISP

6) He has 2 SH, and is basically an inside out hitter
8) He has 1 HBP
10) He is a corner OF with a 103 OPS+ who’s not Jesse Barfield defensively, nor Lou Brock on the bases.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This post is weird

Because half of it seems like sarcasm and, like Nico said, some of the statements are true (at least currently).

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The basic point is that you can take any player's weaknesses,

list them using derogatory language, and make an argument that they’re useless. Yankee commentators have been doing it with Alex Rodriguez for years. Mickey Mantle before that. Ted Williams with the Red Sox before that.

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The power comes...

...later.

Did you think I was going to say “from within” or something? This isn’t Captain Planet.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everything happens.

Don’t say “for a reason.”

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could just start speaking...

...like Morpheus.

“You are…the key”
“Awwww, I’m the key? Could I not be the key?”

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then write a FanPost

entitled “Billy’s taken to many red pils” and go from there…

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Aug 3, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So these would be...

The Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Giants, Tigers, and Dodgers?

The Stockton Ports pitching staff is better than the Orioles.

by gdub171 on Aug 4, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And his Babip is like 350

I’m going to keep saying that until people stop citing that high average.

by ohmangoAs on Aug 3, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And one Eric Chavez.

No thanks.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Aug 3, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hafner screams

ex-roidmonkey / ex-hgh user

i wouldn’t touch him even if cleveland picked up most of his salary. I prefer spartacust. Hafner has no power anymore. Even if he makes a little more contact than cust, the ball doesn’t get out of the infield. When cust makes contact it goes 400 feet opposite field.

Cust is the new Jaha.

by johnjahafanclub on Aug 3, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Takes one to know one

John J… AHA!

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd rather re-sign Thomas than bring in Giambi

Mostly because I think Thomas is more likely to take an incentive-laden one-year deal. And the team needs right handed power.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree - the team needs right-handed power

even if the player is terrible!

{signs Rob Deer and Ron Kittle to 8-year deals just to tick off miggyk2}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I didn't say they should bring back Emil Brown

I think Thomas and Giambi will put up similar numbers, and if you had to pick one side or the other, the team needs right-handed power more. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want Thomas back over signing Giambi.

Or am I missing the point of the sarcasm?

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazingly no one is calling for bringing back the RBI leader

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 3, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see that as a positive sign that most A's fans

At least the ones here, understand the realtive unimportance of that stat. Warms the cockles.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

miggyk2 went on a rant went someone said

the A’s needed a right-handed bat – I was just making a joke on that comment (different thread).

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, ok.

Well, in that case, I agree that bringing in a guy who hits from that side of the plate for the sake of doing it is silly.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Neifi is off the list, then?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he can bat from either side of the plate

And he probably can even tie his shoes or something.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"ex-roidmonkey / ex-hgh user"?

How does that make “Pronk”?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Pronk" is actually short for "Proidmonk"

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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