Meyer Up, Eveland Down
by Zonis on Aug 3, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
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Per Rotoworld;
Athletics recalled LHP Dan Meyer from Triple-A Sacramento.
Dallas Braden, Sunday's scheduled starter, is dealing with a throat infection, so the A's wanted another pitcher up as insurance. Meyer was 10-5 with a 4.48 ERA for Sacramento.
Athletics optioned LHP Dana Eveland to Triple-A Sacramento.
Eveland was a fine starter for the A's in the first half, going 7-6 with a 3.49 ERA, but he had struggled mightily in his last three outings. The A's will hope he rediscovers his command quickly, allowing him to be brought right back to the majors. In the meantime, they could go to Dan Meyer as their fifth starter. However, Gio Gonzalez is another possibility.
So per AN's hope, Meyer is finally getting his shot. Though it is interesting that it comes at Eveland's expense.
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Interesting indeed
I would have expected it to be at Lenny D’s expense.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Aug 3, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Lenny is out of options
by sending down Eveland, the A’s avoided losing DeNardo all together and they will probably give Eveland a little rest and bring him back up after missing a start.
Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.
by jjham15 on Aug 3, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well DiNardo passed through waivers earlier
What’s to say that he won’t again? He hasn’t exactly been dominant recently.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
by vignette17 on Aug 3, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About friggin time!
Eveland has been on a downhill slope for awhile and yesterday he looked about as bad as I have ever sen him. I hope we get to see Meyer on the mound soon.
by mrod on Aug 3, 2008 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this move
Eveland should have gone to the bullpen. Play it shorthanded if you have to. Don’t burn up Eveland’s last option needlessly four-fifths of the way through the 25 man roster period.
It probably won’t matter that much, but Cliff Lee wouldn’t be a Cy Young candidate for the Indians today if he hadn’t had an option remaining last season when he was sucking pond water.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the move had something to do with the fact that
there was a real question as to whether Braden would make the start today (flu) and they had to have someone available to start if Braden couldn’t go. True, they could have tried to pass DiNardo through waivers, but I think they feel Eveland truly needs some work before he’s ready to pitch more in the major leagues.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK then, DFA Brown or Davis
or option Hannahan if you insist on keeping everyone on the 40-man.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Frank comes back as DH in '09,
I think we’ll see Rajai on the team in ‘09 too, despite being a terrible hitter.
If Frank’s DHing and Cust is the everyday LF, Rajai is the perfect defensive sub/pinch runner for those two.
Rajai is really the ideal 25th player for a roster, IMO. You don’t worry about getting him regular at-bats, and his defense and speed shouldn’t get “rusty” the way an unused hitter does.
I think Rajai’s the fifth OF next year, Petit’s the utility infielder, and there’s a big battle for 4th OF – Murton, Denorfia, Buck, a rushed Cunningham(?), etc., with the preference being a right-handed hitter.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 3, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
4th? Who are you counting as the 3rd?
by theblackpearl on Aug 3, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cust, presumably
if Thomas is DHing.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank should NOT be on this team next year,
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Argument for keeping Thomas
is that he is a Right Handed Power Bat that the A’s do not have at all. The closes thing the A’s have elsewhere is Carter, and he’s in High A.
Cunningham has a very good chance of making the A’s in 2009 as the starting CF or LF, and even as the Starting CF or LF in September 2008. He’s had a great year at AA, and more importantly, is Right Handed. That would help a lot in a lineup and outfield comprised almost entirely of Lefties.
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by Zonis on Aug 3, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Arron will make the team.
Heck he almost did this year before breaking his wrist. I just dont see this team competing next year either so I would want Franks ABs to go to someone who needs them.. Like Buck or Cunningham.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Sweeney, Cunningham, Gonzalez
being the “every day OF” in 2009, with the rest battling for 4 OF honors – which means an every day gig on this team.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Aaron will make the team but prob not outta spring training..
Buck will prob start for a few months then if Aaron is playing well he will come up.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Au contraire, I think Cunningham
is scheduled to come to Oakland on 9/1/08 with a one-way ticket.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason not to pay Thomas actual money next year
Since that puts Cust right out of positions.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I'm wondering is
wasn’t there some contender out there that could have used a player with Rajai’s skillset?
Couldn’t they have gotten a minor prospect out of, I dunno, the Yankees for him?
On a team with a set roster, he’s a good pure backup player. On a team with a roster in flux, he’s an annoying roster hindrance.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rajai Davis
Skillsett:Fast black man
Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.
by miggyk2 on Aug 3, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul...
I think the way options work is that this is considered an option YEAR, meaning Eveland can be recalled and sent down as many times as we want, until the end of the year. Starting next year, he is out of “options”, and must pass through waivers before being sent down. That’s what I think, anyway…I could be wrong.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Eveland made the team out of Spring Training...
He hasn’t used an option yet in ‘08, and Paul’s saying that it’s lame to use one now, on the back end of a sunk season, instead of keeping him in the bullpen for the remainder of ‘08 so that the A’s still have an option to use on him in ‘09.
"I'm going to take a camera crew and march into Billy Beane's office and demand to know why instituting his newfangled cost-saving measures means that the run manufacturing plant had to get shut down." FJM
by Elvez on Aug 3, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think what trumps that is that the A's simply feel
Eveland needs AAA work before he makes another big league start. He doesn’t have major league command and he should not make major league starts until he gets some.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case
ride it out for the year, then burn that option to start next year. I seriously doubt he’ll accomplish much in less than a month of AAA pitching and we now don’t have that option for next year.
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by DMOAS on Aug 3, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's a sign that the A's don't care that much
Which could mean they have grown to like him about as much as I do.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Making roster moves because you "don't care that much"
is really foolish. Even if there’s only a 10% chance that keeping the option will help, why would you just pointlessly throw it away?
I’m pretty sure Eveland’s problems of late have as much to do with fatigue as they do with suckiness, and pitching at AAA is not going to ease the burden on his arm. If anything, it might worsen it because the hitters are worse and he’ll presumably be pitching more innings.
It’s as though they’re expecting to DFA him in the offseason and they just want to use him up as much as possible, and burn off his options, so that people will be less likely to claim him. I sure hope that’s not true, because that would be evil.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I would presume it to be evil....
just business. After all, Eveland pitched himself into this particular predicament. Despite his rather poor showing of late, there’s no way he passes through waivers. Someone will claim him on the chance that a change of scenery would do him good.
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by alox on Aug 4, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't work that way
Read my post at the end. I put it in the wrong spot. :D
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it does work that way
You aren’t out of options until a team actually uses all of your options up. It’s a common misconception that a player can only be sent down in his first three years. In fact, many top players still have all of their option years remaining (Barry Zito, for instance, has never used an option year).
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by devo on Aug 3, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice link
I’ll be saving that one
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Aug 4, 2008 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Gorman guy...
He doesn’t write for them anymore, but if you have a subscription, look at some of the headlines from his archive. There’s four or five great articles that were really educational for me.
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by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if he is not recalled by 8/22
He has to spend at least 20 days on the farm for an option to be burned …
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Aug 3, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
I had forgotten about that.
MLB needs to hire some neutral outside party to go through the rules and just frigging clean them up a little. This stuff is impossible to keep track of.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, devo forgot to mention the exclusion
for months that happen to have 5 Fridays. That one is all too often overlooked.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope MLB's rules consultants don't read SBN
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're almost as confusing as the NBA salary cap rules.
by mikev on Aug 3, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never even begun to attempt to understand those
I follow college ball, which is simple—13 scholarships, and you can get whoever wants to play for you…
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, in defense of college hoops
They’ve got a pretty complex player-payment system in place, as well.
by mikev on Aug 3, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Aug 4, 2008 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
QOTM
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by PaulThomas on Aug 4, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
naw that's just
ohio state and usc
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
by flipgatey3 on Aug 4, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey watch it!
I love catfish…..they just get a bad rap for being bottom feeders.
:)
by mrod on Aug 3, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see Meyers get a few starts to see what he can do.
Cant hurt, and we need to find out about him.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Both of them?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we got the good one this time.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's baloney...
Which has a last name, it’s M-E-Y-E-R…
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I wish that I was Oscar Meyer's weiner
wait… that isn’t right at all.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adios, Farewell, Goodbye, Good Luck, So Long
I don’t think we will ever see Dana Eveland pitching in an Oakland A’s uniform again.
He just didn’t have big league command and he’s unlikely to ever find it. He was a useful player for about a third of a season.
by Bubsy on Aug 3, 2008 8:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
-10000
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That 3.88 ERA he had through 21 starts means he’s not an MLB caliber pitcher. He finally hit the wall (against an extremely good offensive team) that we’ve all been predicting he’d hit.
You’ve got to be kidding me.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think Eveland's 3.88 ERA was an example
of the “unsustainable luck,” aka “peripherals will catch up to you,” doctrine at work. I don’t doubt that fatigue is a factor in exaggerating the level of his struggles, but I also don’t think Eveland was pitching all that well when he had a 3.88 ERA. Look at Saarloos’ 10-win season and Joe Kennedy’s “great ERA” beginning to the 2007 season, and how quickly those guys fell into suckitude.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
He was walking a lot of people (one every two innings) but he wasn’t giving up all that many hits (under 1 an inning) and his HR rate was pretty solid (1 every 20.5 innings).
They aren’t ace numbers but they aren’t awful. I think his stuff is for real, his control is a work in progress, he can be a very good 5th starter for us if he never gets any better than he is (and there are teams where he’d be a #3 or #4), and there’s absolutely no question he’s a MLB caliber arm.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he's a perfectly good #5 starter
Thing is, those are a dime a dozen – you can pick up four off the scrap heap and two will be ok while two will be dreadful. So if you are good at scouting pitching talent – which the A’s are – you can grab a #5 starter pretty easily.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A perfectly good starter for us
And therefore a perfectly good #4 for most teams (and an upgrade at #3 for some).
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That I'm not buying
Even the hapless Rangers should start Millwood, Padilla, and Feldman ahead of Eveland.
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Millwood and Feldman are both having significantly worse years that Eveland (including his last start). Millwood has a 5.4 ERA.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no Millwood fan, but he's been pitching hurt
and is definitely better than Eveland. I’d trade Eveland straight up for any of those three.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millwood would be fantastic pitching in Oakland.
Shit, the guy won an ERA title pitching half his games in Texas.
by mikev on Aug 4, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland, but yeah...
I’ve always thought Millwood was overrated, but in a more pitcher-friendly park, with good health, he’d be a #3 starter at worst.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps would have been is more apt than would be ...
he turns 34 in a few months and has lost a couple MPHs off his fastball since his Cleveland days (which is as early as the data is available) ... at the same time, he has been hurt be a generally horrendous defense behind him … so it’s not entirely clear that, even in Texas, he hasn’t been a respectable #3 …
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Aug 4, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely agree - I wouldn't touch Millwood
with a ten foot pole going forward due to the age and injury factor combined with the fact that I was never much enamored with him in the first place.
On the flip side, Feldman hasn’t put up great numbers, but going forward I’d trade Eveland for Feldman right now – I like Feldman and think that with Oakland’s defense behind him he could be quite successful.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me clear the option part up...
“Options”
After three years as a pro, a player must be protected on a team’s 40-man roster, or he is eligible for the Rule 5 draft (more on that later). Once he’s served those three years, and assuming he is added to the 40-man roster, his club then has what are called “options” on him.
When a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the 25-man Major League roster, he is on “optional assignment.” One common misconception about the rules is that a player may only be “optioned out” three times. Actually, each player has three option years, and he can be sent up and down as many times as the club chooses within those three seasons.
When you hear that a player is “out of options,” that means he’s been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he’ll have to clear waivers (more on those below).
Basically, sending Eveland down this year does nothing. Since he’s been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, he’ll be out of “option years” next year regardless of if we send him down this year or not. This move does NOT hurt him in terms of options.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 8:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still don’t get it. :-(
-Cindi
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the deal
Basically all you need to know is that each of the first three seasons Eveland has been on the 40-man roster for ANY team counts as an “option year”. During those three “option years”, Eveland can be called up or sent down as many times as we want (see: Braden, Dallas). Once those three years are up (this is the third and final year), Eveland is “out of options”. This means he must pass through waivers before being sent down.
Make more sense?
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh!!!!!!!!!!!
I still don’t get it. Who’s Dana Evland and why haven’t I heard of her?
-Cindi
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by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not "be on the 40-man"
It’s “be on the 40-man and not on the active,” which is not the case for Eveland. At no point in this year (until now) has he been on the 40-man but not on the active roster. As such, he had not used an option year for 2008 until today.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my question to you, PT:
Given the concerns you state, why do you think the A’s chose to send him down? It’s not like they didn’t know the option rules. Assuming the A’s to be an intelligently, rationally run organization, what’s your theory? Mine is that they think Eveland has a lot to work on before he has “major league command” and they want him to work on his delivery, etc, rather than lose confidence by continuing to fail at the big league level.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, I don't get it
He’s already proven that he has no problems pitching like an ace in AAA. His career numbers there are (going from memory here) something like an ERA in the high 2s with a 4:1 K/BB ratio.
I’m hoping devo’s theory (that they just sent him down for a brief period to figure out what to do with the roster) is correct. Otherwise I fear they’re misdiagnosing fatigue or an injury as the yips. Or maybe he does have the yips, in which case he’s just screwed.
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by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
In that case we have a new power hitting CF in a few years. It always happens that way.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"The painting was a gift, Todd. I'm taking it with me." -Wedding Crashers
by notsellingjeans on Aug 4, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that is the case
It isn’t a waste of an option year, since he’s already close enough to the big leagues that it’s not like he’s going to be coming up and down for the next three years. If he is, he’s a failure already for what he was supposed to be.
"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox
by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's silly ...
even if you are 100% sure that Eveland will be ready to stick next year, having the roster flexibility is still a valuable thing …
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Aug 3, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has not used it yet ...
he has to be done for 20 days for an option year to be used … that gives them nearly 3 weeks to figure out how to open up a roster spot for 8 days for him before the rosters expand in September …
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Aug 3, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's the missing piece
If I were a betting man I’d place the odds he comes back up at 90%
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh god - I hope he comes back at 100%
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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