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Have we been suckered, or are we just suckers?

Everybody's frustrated right now. I get it. So am I. There's a very stark contrast to the excitement and enthusiasm that was prevalent here in the early part of the season, and the despair that is common right now. That early excitement and enthusiasm wasn't unwarranted, but I do feel that it is time to take a step back and try to objectively assess what is happening and where this team is going and when.

Rebuilding - some thoughts about various aspects of this rebuilding and observations I've made of the team and the fans...

Star-divide

Was it necessary? I'm not entirely sure it was, at least to the degree that it's been implemented, but at the same time I realize that this team does have fiscal constraints that other teams don't and cannot just go out and buy what they need, so I'm on board. And no, I'm not into feel-good euphemisms and hyperbole like "reloading". It is what it is... rebuilding.

Is the excitement and enthusiasm misplaced? Will this team be like the forever-rebuilding Royals or Pirates, or the rebuilding Marlins that can pull off the occasional coup and get a world series title out of it? I'm hoping against the former, but I'm having my doubts. History isn't encouraging in that regard. Rebuilding itself is most often a never-ending vicious circle. Lowell Cohn almost nailed it when he said "...Beane’s philosophy is like communism. It never ever works in the present but it will work in some far-off mythical moment that never comes.", though I don't think it's Beane specifically, but rather the unavoidable nature of rebuilding itself. How many teams pull off what the Marlins do? Seriously, how many? For every rule any contrarian can point out exceptions to the rule, and the Marlins are an exception. Most teams who win consistently don't rely on consistently reinventing themselves, they have a plan and/or the money to make it happen and keep it happening. The A's did well at building a team 10 years ago... their record with rebuilding has been less than impressive.

What happened last time? Losing players like Giambi, Hudson, Mulder, etc., got us players like Swisher, Blanton, Haren, and other serious prospects as either draft picks or in trade. How did that work out? How many have actually panned out? A few, but the ones who really did, the one's I mentioned, are now gone.

Which brings me to my next point... Six years. So many people keep talking about how we're going to have these new guys for six years. Are we, really? Why do we say that? Did Billy Beane say we would? I don't recall him saying that, but even if he did, weren't we led to believe that about Swisher and Haren and Blanton, et al? We were supposed to have them (cheaply) for six years, also. To paraphrase Dr Phil, How did that work out for us?

Which brings me to yet another point... What happens if (read: when) all these great prospects don't pan out? Think about it, what's the success rate for prospects? I don't know exact percentages, but it's not anywhere near the excitement I read on these boards. To hear people here tell it, this team is going to be so great when ALL these guys mature. We'll be damn lucky if as many as half of them actually pan out and only half flame out. Referencing the trades and draft picks above, we should be worshiping Barton and Meyer now, but we're not. Why is that? What happened to half those guys in that great draft that everybody was oohing and aahing over several years (2002?) ago? Sometimes it's unforeseen injury, but sometimes it turns out they're not really as good as projected. I feel good that we have many legitimate pitching prospects, so if only half of them succeed we'll still be doing well. I am not so confident about hitting. We have so few, that if even one fails, this team will be in a world of hurt, offensively. This organization has HUGE holes at various positions. Rebuilding only works when needs are filled.

Last point... I didn't believe we'd make the post-season this year, but I thought we'd be serious and respectable. Some great young players playing and learning how to play and how to win. Something to build on. I was excited about our prospects for 2009. I thought we had a legitimate shot at the post-season for next year. Now, I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with trading Harden and Blanton. I feel, given the overall pitching situation, that we could afford to let them go. I am disappointed, though, that immediate and short(er) term needs weren't addressed in those trades. Instead of getting a return that could help as soon as 2009, everything was pushed back even further. Just as a good mid-season trade can inspire a team I feel that a questionable trade can deflate a team, and that's at least part of what I think has happened to this team in the last month. They were told, in essence, wait another year.

Maybe the title of this post should have been... Rebuilding: It's always a day away.

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Very well said.

The scary thing for me is that Beane has never drafted or traded for any kind of prospect that turned out to be anything above average offensively.

The thing you mentioned about having the new guys for six years is also worrisome. It’s funny when we talk about locking up or having control of young guys like Harden, Blanton, Street, or Swisher. It’s another thing to trade them away before you even get to their FA year. I’m still baffled by the Harden trade. The only way it can be viewed in a positive light for the A’s is if Harden gets hurt. Murton and Patterson are awful, and Gallagher is no where near as good as Harden. The only way Gallagher could ever outperform Harden is if he is stuck on the DL. Plus if Harden’s value was so low that those three guys were the best return, then I don’t see where the A’s would have had any trouble signing Harden to an extension if his value is that questionable with the injuries.

I sure hope some of these younger guys pan out. Watching Cargon, Sweeney, and Suzuki has been refreshing. They may struggle and look absolutely terrible for a week at a time, but they rebound, and give hope just as quick. The rest of the team, not so much. Those guys are what you look for in a rebuilding year. Not Hannahan, Murphy, Cust, Brown, Ellis, and Davis. I still have high hopes for Barton, but that pool injury was just dumb.

Something else that you don’t hear much in this rebuilding is how the Angels, Rangers, and Mariners will be in two years. We know the Angels aren’t going away, and even if their farm system isn’t as stacked as ours (I don’t even know if thats true) their owner still cares enough to go out and spend money on free agents to restock the team. The only way we contend with them is if they have a down year. Seattle has the same resources, and it’s only a matter of time before they improve significantly. We also can no longer count the Rangers to be consistent bottom dwellers. The AL west is improving everywhere, not just with the A’s.

What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.

by KMoAsFan on Aug 3, 2008 12:50 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Beane has never drafted or traded for any kind of prospect that turned out to be anything above average offensively

What about Carlos Peña?

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Aug 3, 2008 2:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Uh Huh.

Eric Chavez was drafted in 1996, Beane became GM in 1997.

Jack Cust, well I think he is terrible. Thats a difference in opinion. No one is going to change anyones mind in that regard on the Cust subject. Judging by the playing time Arizona, Colorado, Baltimore, and San Diego gave him it doesn’t seem like he impressed them much either.

What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.

by KMoAsFan on Aug 3, 2008 10:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No, it really isn't a difference in opinion

Jack Cust isn’t terrible. That’s a factual statement.

I mean, I could say the A’s pitching has been terrible, because I think every A’s pitcher is terrible. Mulder, Hudson, Zito, etc—all terrible. Would you agree with that? Would you call that a “difference in opinion”? Of course not. It’s idiocy.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 12:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If your mind can't be changed in the wake of overwhelming evidence

then, like, you’re the exact type of person that makes this world such a shitty place. Seriously. I can’t even comprehend what kind of mental deficiency causes a person to REFUSE to listen to arguments and possibly have their mind changed. Why are you so set in your ways?

This bothers me more than anything else in life. It’s people who just won’t listen to arguments, won’t take into consideration all the evidence, etc. It’s one thing to be aesthetically turned off by a player who strikes out a lot (or whatever it is about Cust that annoys people). It’s another to completely ignore the actual data. It’s a lot like people who refuse to accept scientific theories because they have deeply held beliefs that they refuse to abandon despite all the evidence to the contrary (or they simply don’t understand the definition of “scientific theory”).

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 3:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I go for the duality...

I believe in science and faith.

I believe Jack Cust rocks and sucks.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth."- Ted Williams

by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 3, 2008 3:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Actually, the issue of how good Jack Cust is

is not “factual,” it’s open to quite a bit of interpretation. To claim otherwise is, well, breathtakingly preposterous!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 3:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Jack Cust is not "terrible"

It’s an idiotic assertion.

by 31Boots on Aug 3, 2008 3:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The issue of how good he is is debatable

But the spectrum is between “above average” and “very good”

Similarly, you can debate how many wins the A’s will have this year, but 52 is not an option.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 9:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The way things are going,

I fully expect the A’s to find a way to lose their current game and one of their previous ones.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If the Mendoza line is average ...

then, absolutely, Jack Cust is “above it” ... barely.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Aug 3, 2008 10:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Learn to analyze baseball players

Then I’ll respond

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey man, just sayin ...

you can trot out as much analysis as you want … but if a guy’s hittin’ .200, he damn well better have a ton of HR’s … Cust doesn’t. I’m not saying Cust is horrible … if you play major league ball, you’ve got talent … but please stop trying to make me think Cust is DiMaggio/Bonds/Mays wrapped into one.
Please also remember that because you can work a calculator and check your thesaurus before you post - this doesn’t impress me. Several of you seem to think that your “high intelligence” gives you the right to be assholes. It doesn’t . I understand that you probably got picked on a lot in school - I can see that, and I understand completely. But all of your statistical analysis doesn’t add one ounce of grace to your posts. So please be a little more patient with those of us who actually played sports and, as a result, aren’t as smart as you.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Aug 3, 2008 10:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Learn to analyze people who got picked on in school

Then I’ll respond.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You would describe DiMaggio, Bonds and Mays

as “above average to very good”?

I would describe them as “three of the 20 or so best baseball players in the history of humanity.”

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 10:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Cute, but sad

1. I’m not going to defend myself against your bizarre personal attack other than to say you’re way off base.

2. Jack Cust does have a lot of HR. He’s #9 in the AL with 20. Carlos Quentin is leading the league with 28. How on earth is top-10 in the league not a lot?

3. Cust is not DiMaggio/Bonds/Mays wrapped into one. He’s between "above average" and "very good" as I said in the post RIGHT ABOVE your first comment.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

you must have played A LOT of sports

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 4, 2008 8:26 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nick Swisher

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 11:11 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Murton and Patterson are awful

you’re basing that on his 10 a’s at bats and not his .989 ops in sacto?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 3, 2008 3:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And their performances in Chicago.

What about Barry?
"Barry who?" Forst said, and I felt like I was in the middle of a knock-knock joke.

by KMoAsFan on Aug 3, 2008 10:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Matt Murton's ~800 OPS?

Eric Patterson’s 50-odd at bats?

Ok.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 12:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Patterson being 25, never coming close to showing he can hit major league pitching

are two pretty good reasons why people doubt him. I don’t think Eric Patterson will get 1000 major league at bats.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 3:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes, he has never come close to showing he can hit major league pitching

in 56 ABs. You may be right about him (I don’t think he’ll be a particularly useful player), but your criticism is way over the top based on his performance.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 3, 2008 3:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I still have hope for Patterson,

but after seeing him overmatched by a great fastball (Greinke)...and then overmatched by Gil Meche’s merely “good fastball”...I am a bit concerned at how easily he was overpowered by a basic major league pitch. He looked rather Hannahanny in his first 10 ABs.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 3:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hannahanny! LOL!

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

by UncleLeo on Aug 3, 2008 3:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i agree

i was sitting diamond level, and meche blew a 92 mph fastball by him late in the game. it was sad to see.

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Aug 3, 2008 4:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The positive side of that would be

that there are plenty of guys in AAA with “good” fastballs, and he does not appear to be overmatched by those. So I think he’s better than he looked. But he doesn’t seem to have much defensive value, and small and fast guys should make sure to put the ball in play. He is probably better suited to be a slap hitter, but he takes big cuts.

Another positve take would be: he has a short swing, while Hannahan has a problematically long swing which I think is why he has problems with good fbs.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Aug 3, 2008 4:36 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

His quick swing did impress me

He just seemed to…miss the ball.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well, that's the irony of bat speed

It’s necessary to hit the ball hard, but the faster your bat moves, the shorter a period of time it’s in the strike zone.

This is one of the major reasons why good hitters strike out more than bad hitters.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's also possible that he was pressing

To impress the new team (and try to stick since he was getting such a short audition).

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 9:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Which is precisely why all the calls to

“dump _ now!” after a couple bad games are such a bad idea.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yep

It would have been nice if he’d had a great cup of coffee, but the fact he didn’t is almost completely meaningless.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If you think a great cup of coffee is meaningless,

then you’ve never had a fresh brew of Peet’s.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Depends

Did I get any sleep the night before, or were there several goats keeping me awake?

If the latter, the coffee is miles from meaningless.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Did they keep you awake? Sorry.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Please

like you could pull more than one goat at a time.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 10:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's a pretty good gambol.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 9:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Farm Systems

I think it’s fair to say that the top 2 systems are the A’s and Rays (in some order) followed by Texas at a real gap.

I’ve made the same point in comments you make about failure rates. People get so excited to figure out what the 2012 A’s look like, and there’s just no way of knowing which prospects will pan out.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 8:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

What about Jermaine Dye

He broke his friggin leg. We would have been in much better shape if he hadn’t

RIVER CATS: AAA CHAMPS!

by niallmack on Aug 3, 2008 9:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's amazing how much that freak injury hurt the A's

Imagine all our teams since with a healthy Dye added.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 9:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not to mention it started the whole "can't win a 5-game series" thing

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 3, 2008 9:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

2000 started that

[Crosby] "Guy that has driven in some big runs for the A's over the years" - Vince Cotroneo

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 4, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

True

It just didn’t feel like a thing until that happened. We would have cruised through the series with Dye, but he had a 1 in a million injury and we choked again.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Aug 4, 2008 3:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

+1

IIRC, when his contract was up, he declined an offer to re-sign with the A’s for approximateky half what he had been making with them for the previous three years… then went out and signed with the White Sox for pretty much the same as what the A’s offered, and began producing again.

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

by UncleLeo on Aug 3, 2008 9:57 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Dye

Dye has had an odd career. His post-prime years with the White Sox are easily his best, and healthiest. The thing about Dye is that he was a decent, but not special, corner OF before he broke his leg. Even if somebody said Dye would be mostly healthy for 4 years with the White Sox, I would’ve said they’d be getting below average, and possibly even below replacement, production by now. I’m amazed the guy can still play, mostly because he wasn’t anything to write home about for most of his career (with the exception of a season or two) before.

by thejd44 on Aug 3, 2008 3:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That's not true that he was "decent but not special"

with KC. He was a 30/30 guy – that’s special.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 3, 2008 3:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I would take a middle view

He had one “special” year wit KC and one “very good” year (KC is a pitcher’s park). He was having a fairly bad year for them before being traded to the A’s. Before those excellent years, he was not particularly good, but he was called up at a young age. It was unexpected that he would do as well as he’s done for the WS, but not really a huge surprise. It’s far from unheard of to have a career year at 32.

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by mikeA on Aug 3, 2008 4:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I find it genuinely amusing

that people think they can judge how well a rebuilding programme is going by how well the MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM does during that year. When the team was winning (somehow, no one could really figure out how) in the early part of the season, it was “wow, what a great job.” Now the team looks like crap and everyone is saying “oh, man, this sucks, we’re doomed forever.”

Get a grip, people. Somehow a rebuilding period that, as of me writing this, is now about 8.5 months old, has undergone an alchemical transmogrification into a Pirates-esque slump of futility. It’s no longer necessary to actually have a failing franchise to vent one’s neuroses—all it takes is an overactive imagination and some intense pessimism. No 15-year slump? Just imagine a 15-year slump, and you can wail and tear your clothes as much as you want.

The fact of the matter is the team has a great amount of talent in the minor leagues, particularly in highly fungible pitching, and a ton of money for the MLB payroll. It seems pretty likely that several more blue-chip prospects will be reeled in by the draft signing deadline. The cynicism is easy, but it’s also simpleminded. If you aren’t optimistic about this farm system, you will never be optimistic about any farm system at all—and that’s ridiculous.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Aug 3, 2008 1:50 AM PDT reply reply   1 recs

I think your defense of the farm system is a little too enthused

Pitching wise, the A’s farm system looks better then it has in a long time… maybe better then it ever has. Position prospects are another story.

Where’s Chavez’s replacement?

Hell, who’s Ellis’ replacement?

Can we please replace Crosby? Could a combination of Petit & Pennington do that? What if they can’t?

Will Barton and Buck, two guys A’s fans were counting on in big time 2008, bounce back in 2009? And if Barton doesn’t get his act together how long until Doolittle or Carter is ready?

When are the A’s going to get some good hitters in the line-up? Are the A’s going to have to trade some of their pitching prospects for hitters?

Beane has traded Haren, Swisher, Blanton, Harden and Gaudin. Trade that many guys and you shouldn’t have so many questions about the line-up.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Aug 3, 2008 2:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think Carter is Beane's 3rd Base Choice.

he has been playing there a lot lately.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 2:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I was very happy to see tonight's 3B for Stockton

Josh Donaldson

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 3, 2008 11:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That works too if he can keep it up.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Aug 3, 2008 11:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

They're all moving around

Spencer’s been playing mostly 1B, but can play OF. Carter’s been playing 1B and 3B. Donaldson’s been playing C and 3B. Cardenas just started playing some SS after starting out at 2B. I love it.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Aug 4, 2008 1:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Just keep in mind

that just because a team plays a guy at a different position doesn’t mean he can necessarily play that position well.

A-ball is the time to experiment, however.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Aug 4, 2008 6:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Apparently, catcher and 3B have joined

“closer” and “base coach” as positions subject to change without notice.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 4, 2008 9:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Who's Mark Ellis's replacement?

Eric Patterson, followed by when they are ready; Jemile Weeks or Ardian Cardenas.

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Aug 3, 2008 8:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs